Who knows, a lot of traders on this board, maybe there are there. Nah, only 16k traded first 30 min. Current 15.82.

I guess I care, great day, had a lot of fun. Sorry it bothers you.

That was some of the best quality trading I have seen on this one. May have to try a little extended. Just plain fun.

Again, I can't do private messages. Yes, have been, only if you can get into the flow. There are an awful lot of players on this one to day. Most will lose.

There was a little confusion on the Vanguard position a short time back as well.

Data, what would a CC be without your scribbles! LOL

Seriously, again I say thank you for taking the time. It IS appreciated

Well, back to some live charting, see what's been going on.

Later

OH yeah, you can do a lot of things with numbers. Depends which ones you what to use. That was a kind release.

Thay would have been good. I would have liked a little more on IFX as well. Different people, different interests.

I will say I did enjoy, " congrats on the timing" LOL that was pretty good.

I sure everybody has there own interest points. My were not addressed. Filler and flat and can't talk about that was the theme.

In a word disappointing.

Well I sold off my last 4k. at 17.45 Now I guess we'll see how fast I have to buy it back. Bring on the CC I say

Data, no, save yourself some time here. I only meant if you knew off hand. Not expecting you chase it down.
Sounds like your fetching and stepping pretty good as it is. You don't need to add to that. I can run this down ,but thanks for the offer

Your right of course. Like to use the Wm%R over STO. I find it's a little more active. The ADX and as you stated ,the money flow, are still not responding.

Your dead center on the Nas, STO is ready to break. The Wm%R has already broken the 80 mark. Money flow is coming up and the ADX is ready to kiss.

Short term TA view.

Just crossed over the 30 on the rsi. Macd set up for the cross. If IDCC has some good new in the am , well were already set up for a run. Again short term. Watch the cross overs and the vol. Midterm I still think the market are going to fall into Oct.Longterm at this point anyway, it's all about Nokia.

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=IDCC,uu[h,a]daclyyay[da][pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,....

Gamco, Data may have the answer on that. I don't have enough data to work with.

I can't do a Private Message.

To your first question, were going to find out some of that tomorrow. We need a little more impute from the company concerning that. And we don't know what there going to say and how that will factor in yet.

To your second question. No I wouldn't wait till then. I would and frankly I will pick a good spot during the ebbs and flows of the market to settle in. Again I'm factoring there will be time.

Bottom line I think we'll know more after the CC. They're under the gun and they know it. I would hope they will loosen up a bit and perhaps we can get some real information. In that regards the last CC was better than the 10 before it.

BTW sounds like you did pretty good.

Data,

RE: European mobile operators slammed 3G phones at the 2003 UMTS (Universal Mobile Telecommunications System) Congress in Holland last June, claiming they were "unfit for the mass market". The handsets were criticised for being too big, expensive and not having long enough battery life

A little trashing going on there, huh, I would also throw in the economy worldwide is not the best and I think a factor and I'm still looking for a "killer app", the reason you got's to have one.

I think the transition will be slower than what many are hoping for. Which makes the Nokia arb that much more important.

Question. Regarding batteries and sales for 2g,3g. Does any one company stand out regarding sales on batteries?

Art, art ,art, were going to have to say god buy to you now.

Thanksformusic, think I'd play to close till after the CC. Lot going on and we really don't know what they will say.

Overall until I see something different in the charts I will be setting up for a fall buy in, minus the odd one here and there, energy as an example. And I would expect IDCC to follow the markets unless they pop out some new licenses.

We all are, always have been. Nobody is going to divy it up at the end.

In the mean time there still is the CC coming up. With no board members being allowed to throw a few questions, do you think the analyst's go for the hard questions or play softball again.

Wrong art, all I need to do is listen to the CC. BTW I think IDCC is the one that painted the picture, I guess some of us can just see clearer than others.

To each his own, I only need IDCC to produce,if they do great, if not, well what can I say.

I think right now it's all about the CC. Somewhat surprised there is so little talk of it.

For a long position,no.

Better to be thought a fool and remain silent than to speak and remove all doubt.

Blue, Absolutely correct.IMO

Orientbull

RE: just don't understand why a trader claimed to make millions spends most of his time on this board

Sorry your confused, btw I spend very little TIME on the boards

RE:w/so little volatility.

You got to be kidding me! The stock just went up 100% and dropped right back down as just 1 example. There are many, many more examples. This is and has been a traders dream, geez. . . . . . open your eyes

RE: If I were a millionaire, I'd not spend any time on this board and if I were a trader, I'd find other stocks that have more volatility and make my money that way.

Well when you become a millionaire I would guess you can do whatever you wish. Staying confused won't get you there however All IMO.

Just to easy. 14.50. Now for a little fade

Time to have a little fun this am. Pocket full of qt's . Let 's play.

I don't know what a One Dollar against a doughnut bet is, but I will bet you I'll past on the offer.

Ziploc,

RE: bearish tilt

I don't know if it is as much a bearish tilt as it is lack of vision. Bottom line is they need to produce results with certain issues away from the Nokia issue.{licenses} They can't sit and wait a year on this. And with the Nokia issue they need to get a favorable decision from the arb board.

They want to grow their share price they need those to happen

HD,

Sorry to hear about your position. I wouldn't call it foolish, many were betting that this would go into the 30's if I remember.

Let's see what we have. 4 down weeks in a row. The big hurt coming from the center two. Your right on the daily about the RSI being oversold. But the reasoning for it is also sound, namely the Nokia release. Many were loading up trying to time the start of the Nokia payments. Under the best light this will likely be delayed for some time. And you can see the result, Over 60 million shares in 60 days traded. Clearly people wanted to get out, a little fear to be sure but I would think the higher percentage were investors, big and small, who were just taking their shot and missed. And in my opinion only many of those won't be back for awhile. I think a lot more facts will have to get in the open before they do.Again IMO

We really haven't been oversold on the weekly for a long time however.{ she bounces pretty good} Included a weekly chart for support. On the bright side the selling and the decrease of price have slowed. Regarding chances, there maybe something released during the CC that could cause a reversal, they could also release something in the near future that could cause a pop. If either happens it could provide what you're looking for. I don't think , on it's own and/or just because of a sell off{with the reason given} that we will go 17+ for a while here.

If you get a chance switch to a 3 year monthly scale and notice what happens during the May's of 01,02,03 in regards to direction. You can also look at the comparison during the same time frames for Nok, Qcom, telecom sector or the Nas.

Anyway . The downside is still the market. Clearly running out of steam here, I think further falling of the markets in general is likely and IMO will have an effect on any near term run IDCC may have in store. If somebody said we would bottom in late Sept of OCT I wouldn't call them a liar.

Also including 2 charts for support of my thoughts and that I use to get a feel for the flow, so to speak. They work pretty well for smoothing out the direction overall.

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http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=IDCC,uu[h,a]waclyyay[df][pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,...

And hey GOOD LUCK to you.

Gee I'm sorry the previous history of this company and how it was shaped into the current status is not interest to you. However you want provocative I suppose you can clearly see what was said by the company then, do you think they have learned their lesson about comments above the future.

RE: devil's advocate, no only deal with reality, good bad right wrong it has made me a lot of money.

Many of the "stories" that have been told on these boards have cost people. Do your own D and D and you'll see what I mean

As a footnote the the previous post.

"While the adverse verdict in the case should not affect the
Company's current alliance with Siemens A.G., its ongoing B-CDMA development
efforts, its ability to market and sell the UltraPhone(R) system worldwide"

To the 3 mentioned above , Dead ,dead and dead.

Here you go mschere, you like some of this less than fresh stuff. Read the whole thing and I'll put a twist in it for you to work with.

On March 29, 1995, the trial ended with the jury's verdict that ITC's patent claims at issue in the case are not infringed by Motorola and are not valid. The Company intends to appeal the jury verdict to the U.S. Court of Appeals of the Federal Circuit and believes that there are substantial grounds for reversal of the jury's verdict.

While the adverse verdict in the case should not affect the
Company's current alliance with Siemens A.G., its ongoing B-CDMA development
efforts, its ability to market and sell the UltraPhone(R) system worldwide
or the obligation of licensors to pay non-refundable advances or paid-up
license fees under ITC's existing patent license agreements, the Company
believes that if the verdict is not reversed through the appeals process,
the verdict may adversely affect the Company's efforts to generate further
revenue and cash flow from ITC's patent portfolio and may impair generally the
Company's ability to raise additional funds for general corporate purposes.
The outcome of the jury trial may also temporarily or permanently adversely
affect ITC's pending U.S. litigation against Ericsson and its ability to
realize running royalties under certain of its license agreements.

The case did not address the validity or infringement of other patent claims in the four patents at issue in the jury trial or any patent claims in any of ITC's 51 other U.S. patents relating to Time Division Multiple Access ("TDMA") and Broadband-Code Division Multiple Access ("B-CDMA") technologies, none of which were the subject of the case. The validity and infringement of ITC's patents in 33 foreign countries, mostly relating to TDMA, were likewise not addressed in the case.

Ok Mschere, here we got something to work with. How about the money from the OTHER 33 countries where the I/P was sold. You see, one word for you, Billions. And the best part is it's allready been sold.

The company clearly states " substantial grounds for reversal" Now not in this country any more but we have "substantial grounds" thats got to worth something in those 33 other countries we can go sue in. Now I know where your coming from. I know what your thinking ,lets open it all back up and go for retrial on the patents that weren't covered, that will catch them off guard.

" The validity and infringement of ITC's patents in 33 foreign countries, mostly relating to TDMA, were likewise not addressed in the case"

As a side note

Question: Easter bunny, male of female?

RE was recommending IDCC as a buy around that time for the more speculative investors.

I do recall and yes you did. If I remember right you got out pretty quick.

I don't know if you can say the story's been shattered as much as it's been, again narrowed to the reality stage. After all is said and done, it is what it is.

I think you might be referring to the 1000 dollar a share days. That blue sky has been removed. However I think we can find a color other than black to paint the picture with, and let me throw in the word currently. Without KNOWING what's in those contracts, both Nokia's and Ericy's , well it just hasn't been narrowed or defined enough at this point for me to see where this will wind up.

I suppose I'm going to get corrected again in a hurry. They will remind me that I sold two lots of 5k each at around 24. And 60k shares at a avg of a little under 27.

Correction made.

RE: it sounds like your expectations are not what they used to be.

Expectations, realizations, speculations and I guess possibilities have all had to narrow into reality based on the facts now known vs what they were 1 or 2 years ago.

A lot has changed over the last two years. I still prefer to trade this one at this time. Held a little sold a lot. The entire core was sold of last May. We'll see what the CC says and I guess the IDCC response to Nokia's release. That should narrow down the range a little more.

Don't know if I'll buy back in as heavy again or not. However I think you would have to admit it's been a great trading stock since 9/11. Properly done it would have produced at least a 100% + return each year. And if you held during that time, well the core I bought around 9/30/2001 at 5 sold in May for 27. That's still a pretty good return during a recession.

It's been a good investment Once, if played properly the price swings would have allowed many to become very rich. I don't think there is any question of that , the only question is who took advantage, and who didn't. And on that issue I really don't care. None of my business.

Well I have to add one part that I have noticed and do care. The management has and still is making more of a return that most investors/shareholders/owners will ever make.

RE: A few comments:

I back track?

Well lets take a look here. If we can agree there is an agreement between IDCC and Nokia {MFL} with out a current finalized rate of pay per unit, we have a start. If you're saying with or without the agreement IDCC currently is getting nothing. Yes, that would be correct. However we do have arb. going forward and we do have by contract and an accrual going back 19mo now that , that certainly will be included in the arb. How it all turns out, you got me. We know what IDCC is owed. We don't know what they will collect.

RE: No, I think there is a lot of room to the downside over the next year or two. Remember, for years the IDCC longs have been saying Nokia is in the bag. I think that belief is what allowed IDCC shares to climb so high recently.

I think we covered the in the bag part, it's an unknown. And yes without question it was one of the parts that caused the price to rise.IMO the biggest part. The company also had a part in that with their comments at the last CC along with a few new analysts jumping on.

RE: Don't try to fool me that there is no downside to failed arbitration!

Wasn't trying to. I think there are several layers of success or failure that could arise from arb. I don't think were going to get 150million. I also don't think we'll get zero either.

RE: By reading IDCC posts over the last couple of years you must admit that a significant amount of posters have placed a certain amount of trust in management. All I'm saying is that trust or credibility is even further diminished with each passing event.

I'm not sure just where they put their trust in, but your right that are many that strongly support the management, I'm not one of them. Regarding loss of credibility, I would think not as much as you believe, but then you have to figure why there was credibility in the first place.

RE: I can't believe you are still furthering this charade. Please inform us, exactly what is slated to be released in 2004 and what part will IDCC play in it?

The last CC gave timelines for the first time on rollout of the long awaited IFX /IDCC chip. Without anything else to go on I go with that. If your saying could it be delayed, sure all I have is what the management stated to go on .

BTW I think you mentioned a new mistrust with Nokia. You didn't get that from me. I have no problem with Nokia nor do I intend to do anything with the Nokia shares I hold. I have them as a minor core holding and there not going to be sold anytime soon.

Laundry guy

RE" "I RECENTLY SOLD ALL OF MY HOLDINGS IN IDCC WHICH AMOUNTED TO 14,500 SHARES...AND I DID SO AT A LOSS"

Being the trader that you are why would you sell shortly before the CC? Just curious.

Sorry to hear about your trading experience. Could one assume that you bought too late in the run up{above 15} and were unable for whatever reason to get out on the run down. You did mention loss, correct.

BTW I hear stops can sometimes work for this type of movement. Just a thought.