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Tesla building China factory a rumor news says. Good news for JB&ZJMY imo.
I do get PMs btw, I just can't respond.
http://news.cnev.cn/Info_95620.html
Rumors are finally broken in clarification.
The latest news shows that Tesla's official response, Tesla is working with the Shanghai municipal government to explore the possibility of establishing a local automobile manufacturing plant, Tesla will continue to assess the potential factory site.
This means that the fact is not the same as the media reported the first week ago.
June 20, the media quoted Bloomberg news that Tesla has reached an agreement with the Shanghai municipal government, Tesla's first Chinese factory will be settled in Shanghai Port Development Zone. The news came out, then detonated friends circle.
Two days later at noon, the news about the construction of Tesla in China to upgrade again. (Hereinafter referred to as the "Electric Group"), which will be linked to the Shanghai Electric (7.570, 0.00, 0.00%) Group Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as the "Electric Group"), Set up a joint venture news.
However, the story was a big reversal in the evening.
That evening, Shanghai Lingang Holdings issued a clarification announcement; the next day, the electrical group followed, issued a clarification announcement. Both deny and Tesla cooperation matters.
At this point, "Tesla in China to build factories," the issue of cooperation to the current object and the factory is still undetermined as a final outcome.
Tesla would have to do a joint venture to build factory in China, and own less than 50%!
Here is an excerpt from the interesting article:
Tesla's troubles
However, a number of interviewed industry insiders said that although the situation in China to build factories, but Tesla's choice is not easy, it has become its "trouble."
"It is not a compromise company, so it is not easy to adapt to China's joint venture policy," said Tesla, who has never been finalized. "Liu Qi said.
The truth is true. According to China's relevant policies and regulations, Tesla and other foreign investment and investment in China need to cooperate with at least one Chinese partner, and the proportion of foreign ownership shall not exceed 50%.
In Liu Qi view, obstruct Tesla construction of the problem there are three. "First of all, it does not want to joint venture with state - owned enterprises; In addition, the local government 's preferential conditions are not satisfied; the same time, financial constraints, can not afford the world' s second factory, these three issues, in fact, very realistic, not speculation.
"Tesla to accept a joint venture with state-owned enterprises, and then in the brand with a local brand bundled (such as SAIC, Dongfeng Honda, Beijing Benz), this thing itself is difficult." Liu Qi, for example, the company with China How the national conditions are incompatible, from three years ago Tesla in the day cat two eleven engage in promotional activities, and then by the US headquarters of the emergency halt can be seen.
"Imagine a challenge to the traditional automotive industry rules of the emerging electric car brand, with a Chinese state-owned joint venture, which is not only Tesla tail tag what the word, it is a series of challenges Tesla principles and bottom line problems. "With the cooperation of state-owned enterprises, Tesla will lose its exclusive rights and its personality will compromise, which may be unacceptable to Elon Musk," he said.
In fact, in addition to choose the right Chinese partner is a headache, in the preferential policy access, but also a enough to make Tesla trouble.
For example, according to the relevant provisions of the policy, the use of China's domestic production of batteries is required to apply for new energy qualification conditions.
"Tesla's body can be made, this is no problem, car glass, seals, seats, sound insulation materials can be purchased from the domestic." Liu Qi introduced, "But, only the most critical battery pack, can only take SKD Because the batteries of the batteries, only Tesla Nevada super factory in production, in other words, the factory is' a water for the world ', Tesla can not purchase China' s local battery type.
This means that in China to build factories, if you continue to use the super battery factory production of batteries, Tesla is not get new energy qualification, more difficult policy subsidies.
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Also a couple of events upcoming JBZJMY probably will attend.
To promote the development of new energy vehicles in the market development process, the establishment of users, operators, vehicle companies, supporting the closer ties between the business, July 29 , the new energy automotive industry alliance will be held in Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province.
The meeting will also hold the 2017 China Green Logistics Supply Chain Industry Summit . Invited the outstanding representatives of the whole industry chain, to discuss the new background and the situation, the new energy logistics car industry how to face the pressure and challenges of subsidies such as land reclamation? How to better play a new energy logistics vehicles in the city distribution of the advantages and status? How to deal with the relationship between vehicle companies, operators, end users?
This has the video of the moving EV posted by Jingtezmt.com today. I know it was posted earlier but the link wasn't working for me. The first video is the train ceremony has seen in previous posts.
http://www.jingtezmt.com/baorun/vip_doc/4809309.html###
On the second video of on the site is the moving EV and the hood open.
The video also mentions the ASEAN EXPO (in english writing) and there are some short clips/exerpts from the Press Conference talks. Maybe Floridany can translate.
This one was posted yesterday, but covering some of the same Press Conference news we've seen:
http://www.jingtezmt.com/baorun/vip_doc/4801201.html
100-499 people being hired! In addition to the tens of ZJMY jobs that had closed in April till now.
That's an important post: Car, motorcycle, internet, e-commerce!
I'm still holding out that ZJMY will have Electric motorcycles as well. More evidence there.
Internet , e-commerce coming in the merger too? Possibly.
Where does it say the two weeks name change statement on the site? I have looked and do not see it.
A translated screen shot of the site mentioning the 2 week comment on name change would be helpful.
It appears that the 2 week ticker change comment is speculation based on the JB&ZJMY Motor Trading Co. name, and the assumed date of 6/24/2017. The date is wrong since the company was around before then.
That company is not new. I posted that from the Tianyancha site a good while ago. I believe these 4 companies will be a part of the merger.
Tianyancha site is not working currently but here is a screen shot:
Please replace my stickied post with this one by BaBaBooey.(If it was you)
This article posted by BaBa has a bunch of information, including new car pics and a video segment of the train.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132475082
New advertising EV graphic on a website. Scroll down the page a bit to see it. Graphic says Zhongji Ming Yang and V3 MT (not sure on the rest around the V3 MT), maybe a sedan model?
http://www.jingtezmt.com/###
Tried clicking on the ZJMY car graphic. Appears there is no link yet.
The speculation on the EV orders and production numbers is worth the risk imo. I believe there are more than the 100,000 EVs in current orders.
100,000 order has been covered many times in the DD, when first mentioned last December. Don't forget the 80 bus order in the Bahamas as well.
Yes, we need official company verification of those orders and any new ones, but we will get it at the appropriate time.
The official EV launch is in July.
We will see the orders on the JB&ZJMY's time-table not ours. I'm patient enough to find out.
Once the full press conference and JB meeting is translated we may get to see some of the numbers then.
You got the last part right, just don't include me in the last sentence.
News. Posted within last 20 minutes:
http://www.redsh.com/ppnews/20170626/125538.shtml
"Jinbo Group" a new generation of electric car press conference held in Nanning
Http://www.redsh.com 2017-06-26 12:55:38 Red Business Network published manuscripts
On June 24, Shenzhen Jinbo Holding Group held a new generation of electric car press conference in Shenzhen Jinbo Investment Holding Group, including guests from all over the country, major media and Cambodia, Vietnam and other ASEAN countries envoys and representatives of a total of more than 700 people in this conference, Jinbo Group not only to the participants in all aspects of the Group's development plan, and demonstrated its green, environmentally friendly new generation of electric vehicles; Expressed the tribute to the maintenance of social stability in Guangxi on the front of the public police officers pay tribute, but also held a donation to the public security organs, "a new generation of electric vehicles," the ceremony. With the "Jin Bo Zhong Ji Ming Yang" high-speed rail car starting and a new generation of electric car press conference held, not only announced the Shenzhen Jinbo Holding Group advocated green travel and motor car combined to create a green trip Of the innovative ideas, and sounded the Shenzhen Jinbo Holding Group based on Bangui, towards the advance of the horns of ASEAN.
It is reported that Shenzhen Jin Bo Investment Holding Group has long attached great importance to Guangxi - the only country with the ASEAN land and sea connected to the provinces and as a "all the way" organic convergence of important portals in the economic development of high-speed. In the 14th China-ASEAN Expo is approaching, Guangxi as China-ASEAN Free Trade Area service platform, China - ASEAN fate community multi-field exchange of public platform, the 21st century, the core of the Silk Road cooperation platform Play an increasingly important role in this important historical moment, Jinbo Group to seize the opportunity to enter Guangxi.
Jinbo Investment Holding Group will fully focus on the three major core and two key points of "physical industry, mobile Internet and financial sector" after entering Guangxi, and include: "Mobile payment; new mobile intelligent terminal; big culture; big health Data; big financial; big agriculture; new energy "and other nine plate business. The Group will, in accordance with the needs of "building along the way", focus on economic and trade cooperation, and build economic and trade platform, industrial docking platform and information service platform for China and ASEAN countries, along with the Silk Road along the sea. "Cooperation in a number of areas; participation in China and ASEAN and" along the way "along the other countries of the exchange and cooperation, to create beyond the 11 countries of the vast market and huge business opportunities and make its own contribution.
More news! Word is starting to spread in China.
http://chanjing.haiwainet.cn/n/2017/0626/c3542714-30986916.html
Jinbo Group, a new generation of electric car press conference held in Nanning
2017-06-26 11:43:47 Source: China Networkshare it : Tai Zhong
June 24, Shenzhen Jinbo Holding Group held in Nanning, China • ASEAN Shenzhen Jinbo Investment Holding Group, a new generation of electric car press conference, the participants from all over the guests, the major media and Cambodia, Vietnam and other ASEAN countries Of the envoys and representatives of a total of more than 700 people, at this press conference, Jinbo Group not only to the participants in all aspects of the Group's development plan, and demonstrated its green, environmentally friendly new generation of electric vehicles; Guangxi to maintain social stability on the front of the public police officers pay tribute, but also held a donation to the public security organs, "a new generation of electric vehicles," the ceremony. With the "Jin Bo Zhong Ji Ming Yang" high-speed rail car starting and a new generation of electric car press conference held, not only announced the Shenzhen Jinbo Holding Group advocated green travel and motor car combined to create a green trip Of the innovative ideas, and sounded the Shenzhen Jinbo Holding Group based on Bangui, towards the advance of the horns of ASEAN.
I like the last part. "advance of the horns of ASEAN". The bulls are going to lead with their horns on DOLV!!!
Probably a tourism vehicle. That was the small bubble pic from the Boss job posting I posted earlier. Glad you could find a bigger pic. Thanks. I looked but wasn't as successful. Quality find.
May be part of this other company mentioned recently that deals with advertising, funding and hence, the tourism side of JB&ZJMY. Posted by Frozenbravo:
Beijing Jingtuo Rui Technology Co., Ltd.
Frozen's post:
http://www.jingtezmt.com/baorun/wap_doc/4161555.html
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132386872
My reply to Frozen:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132387702
They hired a graphic designer. Note the job details:
Listed groups, work stability, development and promotion of space! The company mainly engaged in tourism development, new energy vehicles, new energy vehicles to share, film and television drama shooting!
Was AFK for a bit, but I agree with your and Checkfan's assessment.
Everything has been well planned and orchestrated. They are a master chess player and see many moves ahead.
Shares may be a major incentive, but the DOLV label is also a huge reason to pull back on the reins until we're officially JB&ZJMY.
Don't want to confuse the whales with krill(JB&ZJMY) that currently looks like trash(DOLV).
I do believe we are reaching a tipping point where the whales have made the migration to the US OTC coast and are now circling. JB&ZJMY have intentionally knocked over the first domino with the press conference and advertising campaign, knowing the ticker change domino won't be far behind. When you set up the dominos, you tend to want to be the one to push over the first one.
July is the official launch of the vehicles. Could be the 17th, but could be before. Company will make quicker chess moves the month of July imo. They're on a time table, their own.
Posters have said we've forced their hand by the DD we've uncovered. Not sure I believe that. They have had their July launch planned since the Hayatian feast article last December. They are right on track. Like I said, they're are calling the shots. If I'm JB&ZJMY, my actions aren't dictated by ihubber's posts. After all they are holding all the cards, and we've only peeked and seen some Aces in their hand.
Branding of the train with Jinbo-Zhongji Ming Yang, and domain JBZJMY.com under construction (according to Floridany), show the importance of company name recognition. I guess they could have branded the train DOLV to appease some posters and then changed it to JB-ZJMY when the official name and ticker change takes place...yeah right! Chinese people would have been saying who in the H is DOLV?
The company knows what they're doing.
I don't know the implications of the lawsuit regarding the 54 million shares. IMO, the ticker and name can and will change regardless of the court case proceedings.
A bit longer post than anticipated, but that is my theory.
Like I said handshaking, smiling people and thumbs up!
Do some DD, and you'll find out why.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132426672
I wouldn't be surprised if the contracts, deals and orders have already taken place.
The Press Conference should reveal that to the public.
For example:
Jinbo to begin expansive advertising campaign. Don't be shocked if we see a video of a moving EV.
100,000 SUV order with Company A confirmed.
This country signed an order for 80 buses (officially verified).
This City leadership signed an agreement on police cars and/or taxis. ect.
You will see pictures of handshakes, smiling people and thumbs up imo.
There is a reason it is a "Press" Conference. Big announcements will come to light. Company has made some significant chess moves and will let the world know
What so it was a "Press" Conference after all!?
It's amazing how on point the DD has been, we have hit the nail on the head repeatedly. I posted a couple of mine (since my own are easier to find, to show how we have called most everything that has come out in the conference so far). Many others have posted similar thoughts BEFORE the conference as well.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132426672
I wouldn't be surprised if the contracts, deals and orders have already taken place.
The Press Conference should reveal that to the public.
For example:
Jinbo to begin expansive advertising campaign. Don't be shocked if we see a video of a moving EV.
100,000 SUV order with Company A confirmed.
This country signed an order for 80 buses (officially verified).
This City leadership signed an agreement on police cars and/or taxis. ect.
You will see pictures of handshakes, smiling people and thumbs up imo.
There is a reason it is a "Press" Conference. Big announcements will come to light. Company has made some significant chess moves and will let the world know.
2 - I think the news will cover the different models they are working on and the direction they are heading. More specifically:
A - Low Speed electric vehicle (already debuted and on sale). They will have a give away of one or more of these.
B - The much anticipated SUV news. I think we will finally see the SUV with a "Z" symbol. I think the 100,000 order will be confirmed again. Possibly other orders will be stated (Remember, the official launch is slated for July).
C - I think there will be some news/plans for the taxi market. Maybe even some talk about police cars too.
D - They will say more about the electric buses and state some potential trends in that market, city/ school buses.
E - They may mention their plans to sell electric motorcycles (I'm less confident on this one).
F - I think they will announce more battery swap stations and give an overview of the battery technology as compared to the competitors (Remember this is a publicity conference for the government officials that will be attending). They will cite awards, patents and other pertinent information on the technology (not in great detail, since it's only an hour long).
New job posting. Updated company name on boss?
Looks like a new EV in the small picture icon as well. Can't tell if it is a delivery vehicle, bus or something else.
Not sure if BOSS has updated the company name rather than just list the website:
Zhongji Ming Yang New Energy Technology Co.
Here is the Boss job listing site with an older ZJMY job posting. Note the company name not listed then or at the least they added the "New Energy Vehicles" part, Also note that by the numbers, many of the previous jobs have been filled:
I usually use the Tianyancha site for job postings, but I haven't been able to access it for the last few days. Not sure why. It seems to be more detailed than BOSS or the other sites.
No worries. I can do some digging, you've done plenty. I'm fairly capable at times, but maybe not this late. I appreciate your research.
China will be getting news out soon. Only way word won't get out if the JB&ZJMY named Train only carries blind, deaf, and mute passengers.
Thanks Z, ironically I was looking for that video a bit earlier,
Super Surprise Gameshow. Obviously all CG xZx, LMBO.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that is the only place where we've seen the V3 SUV with the "Z" symbol.
I didn't see the driver's legs Fred Flintstoning forward!!! No one pushing it from behind! Maybe an invisible tether?, LOL.
Thanks, Great posts today btw. I knew I had seen you post some of the pictures before.
Just curious if they strayed away from using the C3, or if it might be one of the next models in the lineup.
Same thing with the blue car. Maybe a partnership with that company fizzled or never full materialized? or maybe it will appear here one day with the Z symbol as well.
Checkfan is right, that blue car maker would be a good one to reveal, as they may be another potential partner/manufacturer for ZJMY.
Great Posts today BaBaBooey! Great finds as usual.
You've set the bar pretty high for yourself. I always expect great DD from you. Ha Ha.
Checkfan, Where is this Presentation from? When was it first posted? I must have missed it if it was posted before. I'm not sure on the model of the blue vehicle.
If you haven't seen the slide show, it is worth a look.
http://fs.focusky.com.cn/kwkt/eezm/index.html?html5
I think I have seen many of the pictures before, but this is my first time seeing the presentation. Probably wouldn't open for me the first attempt.
Has it been translated? Many of the slides have Zongjimiyang on them, leading me to believe they are planning on using the C3 model in addition to the V3 and V5. We knew about the bus and delivery vehicles, but nice to see the other potential models ZJMY will use.
Looks like the C3 may be another car of Chery, ZJMY will use for their EV sedan.
Another Chery model ZJMY might use?
Another manufacturer of smaller EV body for ZJMY?
Patents
Police command vehicle, Delivery vehicle, passenger bus
Battery swap station graphic?
China company have no deals with Tesla article says:
Calls it a "Tesla Scandal" and says "No Contact" in the Title
http://m.21cnev.com/archive.php?aid=775809
Earlier article citing Tesla agreement.
http://www.21cnev.com/html/201706/775804_1.html
Same article (first one up top) states Chery has 3 million new energy product orders! IMO that is good news for JB&ZJMY due to their cooperation and win-win strategies between the 2 companies. Maybe some of the orders are by JB&ZJMY for the bodies and chassis imo.
Interesting timing for the Manila conference, right after JB&ZJMY's Press conference and meetings. Seems to me that everything has been planned out.
We should be there with bells on.
Wow! Pick up Jaw.. JB&ZJMY on the train!! It's hard to grasp how epic that is.
I noticed the characters look a lot better on the real thing. The design photos were a bit blocky on the Chinese characters.
Pics here, sweet Floridany!!!!! No reason for my reply Bob, disregard.
Great point. Frustration and disappointment comes from our own unrealized expectations. Many of the issues posters are having are self inflicted because they (we to some extent) put the timelines in our own minds. i.e. (Ticker change will be today, then when it's not, we are frustrated.) Shocking the company and Finra isn't adjusting their timelines for ihubber's heart-warming/confidence building benefit.
I don't work for DOLV, Jinbo, ZJMY or Finra. How do I know when things are going to happen for sure. If I propose a date,it is speculation and nothing more. Things have been in motion for years.
I for one am keeping my seat on the train.
Thanks.
Z gave me a bunch of details. Will be going thru it all.
Zjmy train leaving the station tomorrow!
Thanks, nice posts yourself (and I'm not saying that sarcastically).
Too bad the morning Ceremony isn't announcing motorcycles, but the JB&ZJMY train leaving the station ceremony should be momentous and more epic anyway. Kind of symbolic too for our stock.
Dang Floridany and his expert Chinese language skills, JK obviously. We love Floridany!
I'm still holding out that motorcycles could be a product, but probably at that point would be a footnote of a footnote next to everything else!
I think we will be JB&ZJMY Holding Co. as Richard submitted, but I'm with XZX and others, that know that the actual new name and ticker is inconsequential next to what the company is and does.
That would support the website Floridany mentioned on 6/9/2017:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132066252
Quote:
They are building new site on jbzjmy.com. Don't know when it will be complete. The domain name is hard for us to remember but makes sense for them.
Great post and reasoning. I wouldn't mind finding another billionaire reverse merger play, for fun, since I'll think JB&ZJMY will supply any funds I need for a long while.
Imagine the guy that shows up for the "meeting" at the Press Conference in Levi's and a T-shirt, or shorts and flipflops!
He'll be thinking:
"Why is everyone all dressed up...dang should have wore a nice shirt and tie...a suit looks like the norm.
Why all the cameras, dang should have combed by hair. Maybe I'll sneak out the back.
Why all the official looking people and dignitaries, from other ASEAN countries, dang I'm out of place here, maybe I should go.
Why all the EV's lined up around everywhere, dang they look nice.
I'm going to hide in the back cuz I thought this was a generic meeting.
Dang they're giving away EV's! Definitely staying now cuz I might get one!
...."
Agree. Just going through today's posts.
I believe deals have been made behind closed doors. It is not a shock and awe campaign for the invitees. They know whats going on (generally) and have contracts/agreements already.
I'll say it again. Photos of handshaking, smiling faces, thumbs up and as you said, a public signing ceremony for the Press's (public's) benefit.
The dignitaries from the ASEAN countries are still not in the dark.
Press Conference is first hour on the electric vehicles. Jinbo meeting comes after the break in the second part and will still be filled with tons of info.
I wouldn't be surprised if the contracts, deals and orders have already taken place.
The Press Conference should reveal that to the public.
For example:
Jinbo to begin expansive advertising campaign. Don't be shocked if we see a video of a moving EV.
100,000 SUV order with Company A confirmed.
This country signed an order for 80 buses (officially verified).
This City leadership signed an agreement on police cars and/or taxis. ect.
You will see pictures of handshakes, smiling people and thumbs up imo.
There is a reason it is a "Press" Conference. Big announcements will come to light. Company has made some significant chess moves and will let the world know.
If it was just a meeting or conference, they would have said as much. (Generic you, not you CaniDon specifically) Don't take the Press out of the press conference.
Did somebody say EV company under 10 cents?
Who was saying the Press Conference wouldn't affect PPS? LMBO.
and it hasn't even happened yet!! It will go to .15 on this next leg up imo, and that is with just marginal news.
We saw the train coming and got our seats! Some will just watch it pass by at 150 mph.
I stand corrected on the motorcycle thoughts. Thanks for the clarification.
I wonder how many people ride those trains daily. Must be a gaggle of them.
You're on a roll! Words getting around China (literally via high speed train).
Going to be a great day, month and year!
June chart looks very similar to May chart just at another level. .15 should be pretty easy in the next few days.
I think this will hold true:
6/17/2017
Imo, we will have a consistent pps rise heading into the conference. Majority of next week will be green. Two red days max IMO.
After conference, pps will have a small jump or significant run depending on what is shared.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132266575
Market's doors are open wide. I just spent some time reposting all my referenced posts to the motorcycle possibility, beginning in late May. See my reply to Enthalpy.
I've been to South America and motorcycles in the cities are like ants on an ant hill that's been disturbed.
I could be wrong, but it seems like it would be a logical product for JB&ZJMY. Doesn't make sense to say "car/motorcycle" sales consultant in the job posting if you're only selling cars.
They WILL sell electric motorcycles imo. (the battery technology is obviously scalable, probably in the A9 phone as well).True, it may be referring to the low speed electric car, but why wouldn't it be launched in the conference with the cars instead in a separate launch in the morning? Motorcycles make more sense for the separate launch.
My previous posts on motorcycle possibility:
5/28/2017 Electric scooter
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131722679
Why say both if you're only going to sell the cars?
6/3/2017 Job Post: Sale consultant car/motorcycle
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131877596
6/3/2017 Job Post with screen shot:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131877732
Here is the screen shot again:
6/11/2017
My take on the press conference post, note section E:
E - They may mention their plans to sell electric motorcycles
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132085782
Future:
Ipad batteries, labtop batteries, in short all batteries. "Half the cost, twice the life" is the quote from the Hayatian feast article for the EV's AND the A9 phone (2 separate articles with same mantra).
Nice! Always good finds. I've MM'd you for your solid DD.
I've been saying they would sell EV motorcycles for awhile now. I even speculated it would be revealed in the conference. Looks like it will be the appetizer before the press conference, though.
Motorcycles were first evidenced in the Hayatian feast article and then seen in the salesman job posting for "car/motorcycle" sales consultants.