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Morning all, I guess everyone
of consequence received the latest update. Covers most
of the concerns. Actually we are effectively in a good place now and it is just going to be wait and trust. I am not using the term "trust" loosely either.
I don't believe in false hope or living in a dream world and it would go against my own beliefs to encourage that sort of thing. But I am satisfied with what I know and have investigated. This plan is coming together, To quote Hannibal the cannibal, because we too are the "A TEAM", "I love it when a plan comes together" AND "I love it when there is blood on the street, long as it's not mine."!
B.
A couple of points to consider.
1.Price of the shares is irrelevant, means nothing.
2.the swap ratio will probably depend on the available room in the 22% previously talked about. So whatever amount of shares we have in total is what the division will be based on, as a realistic possibility. The logic is: X amount of shares (ours) divided by available amount of shares in the 22% should roughly be the ratio.
3. Shareholders have to rely on those representing them, which should normally be known. But in this case they have to keep that quiet for the time being for protection.
3. That the trade will take place at all is reliant on James and seconded Jeff. I am quiet satisfied with those two guys, because I know we are dealing with honor here.
This sort of gives the gist of what is happening, without complicating things IMHO.
Share tendering is nothing new, I have been involved with it before. It is just the secrecy aspect because of all the BS that throws a new light on it.
Hope that answers some of the concerns.
B.
What is going on is nothing new
Just the situation with the scamming, dumping , court cases etc. which I am just out to lunch with.
What the private placement is:
1. From a legal point of view, the company (Centacom) must not approach the shareholders or give any offers, incentives and so on. They must play ignorant, if you get my drift.
1. The shareholders (their representatives) are then (with the cover of a NDA) to make an unsolicited offer to Centacom management to trade their shares for whatever. (Centacom shares). (or maybe Rolex watches- -kidding)
3. Centacom will then negotiate (provided they approve - WHICH THEY WILL) what the swap ratio etc. they will give for the shares.
4. The swap/trade will then be made, your QASP share will disappear, you will be notified and your new shares will appear in your account.
This process is between the shareholders (representatives) and Centacom ONLY. No outside interference - nothing!
This is a very short precis of the procedure, to give what is probably going on. It's actually relatively straight forward and the best way to go with what has happened.
B.
Yeah Tex, but it's guys like you that
made it possible to keep the good fight alive. friend of mine in Houston, high in the flyboy crowd, got a bit damaged himself but had to handle that and two bros. that came back in pieces. Still gets to him some times. he is involved with a movement now that just might have some influence in the next BS session we are all heading for. I intend finding out more from him.
B.
Did you say 4 teenage
daughters???? That on top of QASP!! NOW you really have my sympathy. Cat when this is all done and we can recover, we'll get Tex, fink, sponge and others together, set up a time and a place, commiserate and make plans to overthrow the government. Maybe we can get Jeff to consider nomination.
B.
PS, Might be good to get jaxstraw and cem multi mill to join us. cem can cover the tab for Jeff's nomination.
Course that should be
Holier than thou. Just can't stop my fingers, got JoC disease.
B.
Yeah Tex, can't say I'm not glad
Trump is out, but who knows it all may be a scheme. I just can't look at a screen when Obama sprouts. He sticks his head in the air and gives that "Holier than though" look and my wife has to grab a hold of my arm before I fast ball a glass thru the screen.
My rant for the day!
Come to think of it y'all been pretty restrained today. This goddam wait is getting to me too.
I couldn't help laughing the other day when someone said they like your grammar and spelling etc. (in a good way).
Well I think you know exactly what to say and how to say it. You know, you write a lot like Tennessee Williams, same short cuts and same smarts.
You can see this wait is getting to me. lol.
B.
Sponge I had a quick look at
the link and have to say Allen does indeed look impressive. I like his attitude, not arrogant or smart ass, just matter of fact. I will look further when I have time.
One observation which you mention regarding race. This can be a definite benefit in ways you haven't noticed.
I have traveled a lot and lived in a lot of places as a kid, (Father a mining engineer with Anglo American) including Central and southern Africa, Far East etc.
Allen has fine features, sharper nose and so on, as well as a different demeanor to Obama. I would go out on a limb and say his heritage is more East Indian, from the southern part of India or even south American, or Tanzanian Indian (Immigrated there in the 1800s from India). With probably one side of his heritage being Western European (Brit probably).
This will make a real good mix. Smart and someone who thinks on both sides, empathetic to our values, which will be the same as his.
Just some of my useless rumblings while having a coffee.
B.
Morning all. Nice MAJOR
excellent info on Straughn. Between you, cat and fink youse guys are giving those bums a really hard time. They have thicker skins than a rhino. Talk about the dregs of humanity, unbelievable. I guess those type of people have no sense of morality at all. Evan hardened criminals have a code of ethics amongst themselves, these guys - nothing!
Hope the equity group is making progress. One thing for sure they are finding out first hand that lawyers do nothing on the week end, lol.
Should, with a bit of luck get some news immen$#$%# scratch that word, soon.
B.
I have to say there
is an awful lot of discussion for a so called "Nothing company"
that is trading at .20c. Perhaps the value of "NHSH" is beyond the comprehension of many but a few. What is disturbing tho is the wafting H2S and the nausea it brings.
B.
Nice post cat
interesting reading and spot on target.
B.
Gee shucks all is quiet for
now. I guess it's regroup time for later or tomorrow.
Have to say the trading was heavy here today. I guess NHSH
must be totally diluted out.
B.
Good to read a civil board. PP
You just could have something here. I will take a deeper look
at him. quite impressive, certainly on the surface.
B.
Right. I think, no lets rephrase that.
I know. The uninformed to put it nicely (otherwise referred to as id..ts) Cannot grasp the concept. No lets change that. Cannot grasp the fact that "NHS Health Solutions" previously trading as NHSH on the pink sheets, has been. No lets rephrase that too. "NHS Health Solutions" NOLONGEREXISTS!!!! THE COMPANY USING THE SYMBOL NHSH IS CENTACOM!!!! THERE IS NO NHS Health Solutions!!!!
Now for those still perplexed. The symbol "NHSH" which Centacom is using for convenience, is in the process of being changed to a symbol which will refer to CENTACOM.
FURTHER for those still confused. Centacom is a brand new public company!! They have never had a stock split, consolidation, bugger up, stuff up or anything else. This company is only TWO (2) trading days old.
Get real. Get the facts and stop chewing the cud.
B.
sponge, do me the favor
I got to get to a meet.
B.
Morning Peeps. Hey Fink
Those odds are beginning to look real good if you get my drift.
That was a nice day too 05. I am still very interested just how many shares are actually held by us commons, in total. I recon down the road we will look back and say HOLY SH 1 T.
B.
Morning all. Bull, just a friendly suggestion
and to everyone. It is great to receive a response from the group, but I don't think it a very good idea to post the response for everyone to read. Just let em all know you have received a response and they are valid.
In essence it is only those who have submitted and are in the group who should know what's in the messages.
Just having a quick read over on the Q board and I couldn't believe how many were engaging with JoC's crowd and freely giving them all kinds of information and invaluable insight!! Just what they are fishing for. Man people Just seem to HAVE to spill all they know. These are rough waters, let's keep them out and leave them in the cold.
This is exactly why a NDA is a requirement and believe me when you sign that, Mums the word!
In my world, what is going on over there is something I would walk away from, but real quick.
FWIW B.
Good post MAJOR logical
and well thought out. Good luck to all for the coming week.
B.
You becha Tex, the truth and us
the common shareholders are priceless. For sure we need the truth, God, I got sucked into this posting stuff because of all the garbage that has been thrown at us. What you say is we need the truth and the transparency. Agreed 100%! And we need it NOW!!
Problem is because of all the garbage that is and has been thrown into the mix, we the priceless ones, are being battered.
What I am saying, and I know it's like a broken record, give them a little time. I think, hoping (pretty sure), what is being done is a protected avenue for us to get out of the stink zone, without damage to us or Centacom.
This whole process only really got on the rails Friday, not even a full business day, and believe me, I know lawyers never work on Sat. and Sun. (inside knowledge for sure). Give them till Tue. night to spill it out to us. Which is enough time for us to know the score and who they are.
Hey I like the orange bit, think I might just use that in a presentation some time. Will give you the credit.
B.
You know you can put a spin
on anything if you really want to. Financials, what financials are you talking about, Centacom? If you had them in front of you I am willing to bet you would make a mockery of them. but that is your prerogative. Further you can consider yourself lucky, I have made an exception to engage with you in this post, just this once.
Concerning another post regarding the value of Q... shares. there must be something going on there otherwise why is JoC posting and his underlings spewing all kinds of garbage.
Remember numbers mean power. Those who have the largest numbers have the most power and they are the ones who will control what happens next.
B.
5.. VOLITION OOps Gracias Mucho EOM.
tex what you say is true on the surface
But there are and must be a hell of a lot of extenuation circumstances involved.
1. How do you know the shareholders involved in the private placement even have an ihub handle.
2 It's easy to think that the only shareholders are ones who frequent the boards. Not so. I know of half a dozen who don't and one of them is my son.
3. A private placement is a very sensitive legal undertaking and has to be extremely carefully carried out.
4. A private placement has nothing to do with any offers or promises made by the party the placement is to be tendered to. This is very important.
5. A private placement is an agreement between those that take part in it and is of their own violation.
6 A NDA would of necessity have to be completed by each of those that take part to protect all parties involved.
7. this private placement would then be untouchable by outside influence and is between the two or more parties that are involved and them only. Sort of like a private sale or trade of whatever for whatever.
I understand your and fink's concern and others , but I think we should give those involved, as well as James and Jeff time, before getting too concerned. I am with you on this.
B.
There is a major flaw in that prognostication.
There are by no stretch of the imagination a lot of people who have bought NH.. shares. you would think that today after the announcement there would have been a flurry of activity. But no! Only 40000 traded, remember for every buy there is a sell. That is not a lot of shares! now why is that? Just a rhetorical question.
James and his team have a very good handle on what they are doing and second guessing is simply a waste of time.
B.
Yeah relatively sane, me too
I am well known for my flippant and crazy modus operandi in meetings and presentations, but what I see there is nuts.
T plus 3, God anybody who trades and can't get that concept is for sure a candidate for the next election. Please, PLEASE, Go for it Rudi and Condi GO!
B.
This is the only board
it would seem that is frequented by relatively sane and most times smart peeps without an agenda of destruction and confusion.
I am very concerned about the NHSH board, everyone has gone stone cold stupid and the harassment by the Q bashes is ridiculous. Even the MOD is referring to the old NHSH stock splits and puts it up as a sticky.
That sort of behavior is the same as on the Q board and leaves NO room for serious discussion on developments which should be quite exciting and could benefit Centacom. Who the heck is going to take the merger and share swap seriously with the yadda, yadda going on.
MY RANT for the day.
Perhaps cat or someone could set up a new board for Centacom and start the banning process. I don't have the time and am not too familiar with the process. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
B.
Bankeramd there is a process to follow.
They first had to be to complete the merger and satisfy all the requirements involved.
They have discussed the swap/trade and have had to obtain the legal and SEC etc. requirements to implement it in the best way possible.
Today there is a board meeting where things will most likely be finalized.
The next step will be the offer, official cut off date etc. and this may even come today, or at least within the next couple of business days.
The next step will then be for the actual transfer which will be recorded and your broker will inform you of your share swap and it will appear in your account.
I would work on the end of the month to be about when the dust settles.
B.
Morning all. Baldeagle you are correct
in that aspect, no harm in shareholders lending a hand. There is a problem though if peeps send in sensitive information, like stock held, etc.
From a legal standpoint, disclosure that you want to convert is sensitive and should only be given to the company at their request. Holding stock and whatever your intent is regarding that stock is private information which should only be disclosed by you to the company involved and your broker. And any action taken on that stock will then be recorded by compushare.
Once the details of the share offer/swap have been made known, there will be formalities to be followed and those that want the swap will then tender their shares.
I am sure Jeff and James pretty much know the ammount of shares they will be considering and dealing with, so my advice is wait for the disclosure on the trade.
One thing that porgie did say which makes sense is that it could raise a red flag requesting possible sensitive information to an ad hoc yahoo account. We know it isn't but others don't and besides ihub shareholders in QASP aren't the exclusive holders.
B.
B.
Me too, LOve it
Nothing like calling a spade a spade. time to stop pussy footing around. This will soon be our company, Centacom, with a good leader. So garbage get lost there is no place for the likes of you here.
B.
Morning all. fascinating is the
relatively new kd on the block. the spin and semantics are enough to make anybody's head spin. I read half a dozen, uncrossed my eyes, took an aspirin and headed to the wash room.
Interesting how JoC has not appeared. Gag order perhaps by his handlers? Just a guess of course.
I must keep my ear to the ground periodically during the day for developments, interesting times ahead for us QASP commons.
B.
Yep tex agreed. any and
all of the delays have been forced because of outside influence.
James is a very careful and straight guy, he strikes me as being a little over cautious, but rightly so. It's his business he has built up and I can see where he is coming from. His and Jeff's delays are for valid reasons. Jeff knows the story and he ain't taking any stupid chances. Put them together and you have a team you should be able to trust to only get it out when it is right.
B.
There is another wild card
seeing birth certificates are flexible. How about the Gouvenator? Lets face it strength and smarts are needed because there is trouble ahead.
Condi Rice is one of the smartest people around, fluent in Russian and I believe a couple of other languages, top class pianist and musician, education beyond the normal, knows the ropes and how to handle herself, no baggage, and one of the nicest people one could meet.
Rudi is street smart, has all the education needed, one of the boys with regard to the Military, a clever political tactician etc. and I bet his Italian is pretty good too, whatever baggage he has is no big deal. Also a real nice guy when he wants to be.
That's it my view for now.
B.
Cat what do you think
about Rudy Giuliani? This is the problem we need leaders and I can't think of any. Maybe Colin Powell or how about a Condalisa Rice and Rudy Giuliani ticket?
B.
Right on sky this is
not the usual flippers pink with countless billions of shares to trade. This is a serious stock to own and don't for one minute expect it to shoot up with every PR.
Slow and steady with a solid base is what we need and then, when the time is right, Watch out.
B.
You know SJO you are DA MAN.
My wife totally agrees with you on that prediction. Me?
Shucks I dunno, maybe, possibly, Nah what the heck Me too!!!
B.
THERE you go Check out Centacom News page.
CHECK out Centacom news pageEOM
Marian, you are right about that
I actually suggested a few weeks ago to Jeff and James that the cut off date would ideally be mid march. That would effectively cover most bases and add protection for the genuine holders who have been taken to the cleaners. Unfortunately depending on the legal ramifications, the SEC would have a say and there is the problem. I agree shutting off on the day, while good of course, does somewhat give JoC a little less sweat.
B.
Very nice news and so
welcome after so long. You are right about the $1 aspect but WLGC will have to get out of the pinks for the Hedge funds to enter. I honestly think a take out just may be on the cards before an up-list. But we can only wait, speculation is just that.
B.
Hi cos, I pretty much
expect news at any time and no I am not quoting James or Jeff.
They will of course give us news as soon as they can, I am comfortable about that.
B.
Morning all, well it is 5/11 and I
have reason to expect material news today or at least by Friday. It is not unreasonable to expect good news for the "common shareholders, so let's hope we don't have a long wait to the weekend. Jeff and James WILL come thru.
I was quickly running things over regarding the QASP saga last night and wished I knew more of the facts, because it is convoluted indeed. It is quite fascinating to note that most of the discussions over the last months have revolved around legal aspects and the interpretation of such. I will seldom use legal or financial terminology when I post, because lets face it, who but a lawyer or accountant understands the jargon. Much the same as visiting a cardiologist or entomologist and wondering what the heck did they say. It's an ego trip and sets them apart. It's amazing how many posts I have read that are nothing more than a bunch of recycled text used to teach and end up confusing, because no one knows what the real facts are. Yes JoC has committed tortious interference, of course we all know what that is don't we? that wonderful word "Tort" used in so many instances! Enough, off the soap box.
QASP and JoC: I keep wondering why JoC continues to act the way he has, what is his true motivation. I mean we all know the man is a scam artist and lives by stock manipulation and whatever else. But he is different to the likes of Bernie Madof, he doesn't take and then embezzle others money, he gets them to , well y'all know. So why has he, JoC, stepped over the line from company and stock manipulation, which is serious enough, to downright, well tantamount to, criminal actions? I am not a criminal lawyer, so the repercussions of that is best left to the courts.
Without the facts, it does look very much as though he is absolutely panicking about keeping the price of QASP shares down. He has been doing everything possible to this end and in the process has now stepped over the line I mentioned above. (criminal actions, ie. false filings, contempt of court order, etc.)
If he hadn't stepped over that line, I just think he would have won, in fact on the stock side he probably has won.
Think about it: With the prospect of a stock offer/swap and no date set for cut off, therefor the cut off date being when the offer is made. Why has the stock not shot up with peeps trying to get in to take advantage of the swap? BECAUSE JoC has thrown everything at it, including posting, engaging with posters, spreading rumours and so on, generally scaring the hell out of peeps and getting them to hold off. He has been very successful at this and if he had just continued with that he probably would have made it. BUT more panic and that is where he stepped over the line.
I think our anti C. as, cat and many others have suspected, is in very deep with a real bad bunch. Perhaps launderers, or whatever.
One thing for sure, we, the common shareholders have an offer coming up that will placate us and be a win, the QASP stock will probably tank after that and JoC will have won and succeeded in covering, BUT has now landed himself in anther and very different load of dog doo doo.
Food for thought while we wait.
B.