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You know, for a good while I believed that maybe, just maybe, this thing could be for real. I was rather openminded to hear out everyone's point of view.
However, after the mysterious award spelling correction and noticing that the website is hardly ever updated, my belief has been exponentially dwindling and now my last fraction of belief has completely vanished.
(Kinda reminds me of Clive Owen's trust toward Jenifer Aniston in the movie "Derailed").
I'm actually curious to know what we're going to hear next in the PR.
Maybe they'll include the word "Inc." (incorporated) in the IEEE golden-seal on their version of the award?
Maybe they'll put in a date along with the thai-pak counsel's job position?
Or perhaps they'll even go so far as to announce an actual dividend date, drive up the price through the sky high roof while the insiders sell at the top,
and when the dust settles they'll give out worthless shares of some worthless company.
Of course, this could still be real... Who knows. But sadly the popular belief here now is that we will never see a cash dividend.
Yeah you're right I don't see it anymore.
It was there in clear view for a very very long time though, that's for sure. They must've updated that website recently.
How does XBox360 differ from other consoles?
well There's still that AD offer until October 15th.
Would be nice if we can travel back in time to get that special offer.
Is there some sort of a "special-pass" we need to purchase before we can access the ads in the site
cuz it takes too long before any search results show up
if any.
Award Spelling Change Conspiracy....
If they issued a new award, the hue/color/alignment, shade, brightness, contrast of the newly scanned award would obviously be very different from the first scan...
I've always believed that scanning different papers to come out at these exact same criteria would be like finding another person with the same fingerprint as you...
Who here believes that it's really a new award with the spelling correction that's been re-issued by IEEE?
GameZnFlix kiosk doesn't exist at the Woodbridge, Virginia circuit city. I went there today to check it out.
Is there anyway we can get them to put one up?
I wanted to get an XBox360 but I'm shocked after seeing the price. Does it have a human brain and a mainframe in it?
How can a console cost so much????
Sure looks nice though...
Definitely on the list of my must-haves, aside from ipod nano.
I happen to personally love this stock and holding for long term.
However, regarding all the Nostradamouses making predictions on this board: I don't believe that anyone here has the clairvoyance to predict future prices unless s/he's Ms.Cleo charging $2.99 per minute. IMHO, it's not possible to be able to LEGALLY beat the market other than sheer luck plus being a solid profitable company. I am willing to bet that most ppl who "claim" to have made it huge did so by more of a luck thing instead of Rumanujan-mathematical-knowledge-thing or a clairvoyance-thing. It's obviously not from a divine power or any extensive knowledge claimed. If they continued, it will average down to the index-fund or worse... but not better.
Note: I differentiate between "making profit" in the long run vs "beating the market". Any idiot can make a profit in the long run if he sticks his cash into an index fund, 8% ROI yearly average over the next decade or so. however beating this average in the immediate future on a consistent basis is virtually not possible.
IMHO, it's impossible to beat the market with any reliable method because the more accurate you try to get the less exact you are able to know about it's other information: the famous uncertainty principle. We should probably not intermix atomic science with stock valuation but the idea itself is similar to get the point across: The two seemingly incompatible theories can be compared to each other precisely because they are both based on statistics and probabilities.
It's simply impossible to predict immediate future stock prices AND know exactly when you can take that profit if there was any money made *legally*. Neither pumping psychology, charting trends, extensive research on the business, or from volume trends, 50dma/200dma crossovers, trends, splits does any better in the immediate future as compared to investing in the index fund inself.
You could, however, make money off a series of positive press releases, but this too you have no control over. Furthermore, a a never ending series of positive presses could indicate that something's too good to be true.
Any apparent prediction is merely a temporary effect: partly because you will never be able to tell when the knife is about to fall through but mostly due to the fact that the intrinsic price of the stock is already built into its current value.
For example, Bob thinks that a stock is really worth $10 even though it's trading at $1 right now. However, it's trading at $1 due to other lacking factors such as it not being well known or p/e ratio simply being low. Compare this to GOOGLE shares which is trading at much higher prices yet still go higher due to so many people believing that it could go higher.
Your subpenny stock is trading at penny levels because it is really worth penny at this point. At every stage the stock price is intrinsically built into its current value. It does take a greater fool to make huge profits.
Some will say, "If the news hits for XYZ stock and products come rolling out, then it will be game-over". Yes, true, but this is the same with everything else. The fact remains that XYZ can not make a product yet, for example, would be what's keeping the price below penny levels. IMHO, it's all relative and lacks a definitive pattern, like flipping a coin.
Still, I remain optimistic and hope that the coin flips in our favor.
I'd like to hear from the point of view of those who feel optimistic about this company:
What are your explanations regarding the award issue?
What about this company made you believe it's for real?
Some specifics would be nice.
Depends on who you ask
but to be on the safe side
I'd ask someone in IEEE Asia Pacific Region Thai-Pak student counsel.
Good luck getting hold of them tho.
Here's why that website takes longer. It's cuz all those ads are encrypted to highest IEEE electornics standard. It takes time to decrypt all that on the fly and send it through the backbone to your pc.
Reason why GOOGLE only takes .2 seconds for millions of search results is because they aren't using any 384bit encryption.
You can search for cars with absolute confidence!
I've been learning Tae Kwon Do from Master Tiger "D" lately.
I've learned how to speed kick the bucket
and do a reverse round house back-stab.
Some new pressure-point moves I'll learn tomorrow:
faking presses & releases
I'm trying to do a full 180-degree leg split
but he's only shown a reverse 1:100 split.
If it hits .05 will you lick the grease off my garage? I was wondering how i should clean that up. 8-)
Award spelling correction is very strange...
It could mean 2 things:
1) IEEE sent them a legitimate corrected version and IDS rescanned it.
2) They performed a simple photoshop surgery.
However, if they rescanned the new award, then what are the chances of the SIGNATURE / alignment / tone / hue / color / contrast / brightness in the new image being EXACTLY the same as the old one??????????????????????????????????????????????
PS:
Mr.H, I can't send PM but I got your mesg, thanks.
My cousins keep snooping around my PC so I got an awesome new elecTornics device today.
It's an internet encryption kit that's won 2 awards so far. You'll NEVER crack it even in 1,000,000,000 years! I feel they deserve another 2 awards: one with a spelling error and the second that has it corrected.
Hmm, wait the fine print says "crackable in 12 years".
Where's that dividend?
Where's that award confirmation from ieee folks
Looks like our lightening bolt Mr.Khawar won a 2nd IEEE award!
It is the exact same award as the first but somehow magically morphed and now the word "Elec-TORN-ics" is spelled correctly on the IDS website news section.
IEEE Bangkok's Mr Liu must have elec-TORN up the first one and issued him a correctly spelled award.
Dear xxxxxx xxxxxxx,
Thanks for your mail. Please be informed that IEEE Region 10, Asia Pacific Region never give out any technical award as claim. It should be a kind of fraud.
Regards,
Y W Liu
Top 5 reasons why IDS bigboss is BatMan.
5. He has an assistant, who's really into "TECH" stuff.
4. Claims to give you home land security, selling fraudulent securities
3. Almost everyone believes they aren't for real
2. Hides in a BattCave which he bought with his personal funds.
1. He travels with Robin, robbin' your money.
Hmm.. good question, but here's one for ya: How come you were born on the day you were born and your first reaction was to cry? Have you straightened it out with the delivery room yet?
I created this account since that's the day I created it just the same as your birthday was the day you were born, no particular reason. I've been reading the boards for a long time though.
Ameritrade still stinks because for example it still shows GZFX 52week low as yesterday's low but my question was not asking about what the 52week high is.
You may want to take a reading comprehension class. Read this first before assuming anything about my 52week high question.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=8441920
I am thinking about going to grad-school.
I want to major in ElecTORNics Engineering so that I can fly to Bangkok and win an award that nobody in the committee can confirm.
If I BS too much on the term papers I write, eventually my professors will find out through their own DD and place me on a 20 year academic probation.
To pay the bills, I will work as a Teaching Assistant but if I talk too much during class,
my professor will tell me to shut up, Gagging the TA.
I don't know about you guys but I'm not convinced that this trend will continue anywhere near the previous highs. It seems to be more of an irrational frenzy of folks jumping in blindly: clearly this company still isn't as profitable as we'd like in order to justify the price some of us are hoping to trade at. Each way up adds to the volatilty as you can see. Best to take some profits along the way just in case.
Burton Malkiels "A Random Walk Down Wall Street" puts a unique perspective, backed by Yale / Princeton university studies.
My $.02... which is exactly where I'm selling mine
(times 10 maybe, but who knows)
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Gold Rush
Infant Rush (play RPG games like red-alert, starcraft?)
Very Nice photo. Did Admin Matt ever say anything about your photo-signature?
Then again he's a guy, go figures.
is this stock worthless now or something?
what caused such a big price drop?
i'm suspecting that there were some bad news along the way?
Ameritrade says 52week low is .0082
but that chart clearly indicates 52week low is around .002.
What's the real 52week low for this stock??
What's the real 52wk-high and P/E for this company?
how come all these companies report different data??????????????
Ameritrade reports
P/E -0.86
52-wk High of 0.16
Fidelity reports
P/E 0.0000
52-wk High of 0.04 from back in august
finance.yahoo reports
EPS -.01
P/E n/a
52-wk high n/a
Someone had pointed out earlier about the $1.30 52week high but apparently others seem to believe that it is only an aftermath from the reverse split.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=8271691
Is there a post-split vs price relationship that subsequently has an effect on the price of the stock albeit short term / long term?
What online stock quote/chart service do you guys use specifically for finding out the "effects" of split-adjustments?
For example, on ameritrad I see a chart that says for ticker IDWD has gone up to 1.3 a few months ago but that was shortly after the 1:100 reverse-split. Due to this reverse split, we can't assume the 52week high is around 1.3 but it's realistically rather much lower.
The bummer is that with ameritrad chart it does not indicate that there was a reverse split, so it's too easy to jump to the conclusion that the 52week high was $1.3ish.
Is there a "really good" online-chart maker that shows all this at once
along with a split-ajusted high/low?
Weren't you the guy who was pumping IDS with all those news articles and legal issues?
I was never able to get a confirmation from IEEE folks either so I sold mine too. Welcome to the club.
What online stock quote/chart service do you guys use specifically for finding out the "effects" of split-adjustments?
For example, on ameritrad I see a chart that says for ticker IDWD has gone up to 1.3 a few months ago but that was shortly after the 1:100 reverse-split. Due to this reverse split, we can't assume the 52week high is around 1.3 but it's realistically rather much lower.
The bummer is that with ameritrad chart it does not indicate that there was a reverse split, so it's too easy to jump to the conclusion that the 52week high was $1.3ish.
Is there a "really good" chart that shows all this at once
along with a split-ajusted high/low?