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Thanks for clearing that up Soma. In all honesty, even if there were a RS, I wouldnt go anywhere. I wouldnt be happy about it but I wouldnt dump my position either. I didnt invest in BP because I wanted a quick buck. I see the fundamentals of the product and company being sound.
Aan
With all the talk of RS, is this something that is seriously being considered by BP? Maybe I missed the news release but I thought people were just talking about it off the cuff.
Aan
I think your right on both points. National Distribution is key to the success of the product. RS would definately imo be the worst thing. I am no expert by any means but the company and it's business model should be able to stand up to scrutiny. If you need money, borrow it but don't do it at the expense of shareholders.
I seen a few people talk about a 1000:1 RS and frankly don't understand that. Based on a 1.5B float, a rs like that would leave only 1.5m shares to go around. I could see a 10:1 which would leave about 150million which I think is much more appropriate. Perhaps I have misunderstood but like I said, I'm no expert. I have however, followed enough companies to see the damage that a RS does to shareholder value. I still have yet to see one that a shareholder is happy about.
Aan
Real Time Quotes
Just wanted to ask a general question to those who use the service.
Who do you use for RT quotes on Pinkies and or Nasdaq Level 2?
Price and why them would be appreciated too.
Thanks,
Aan
I went to the BT myspace page. Lots of new pictures up. Very nice to see especially the radio DJ drinking BT.
Hopefully you will get some good answers anyways. Looking forward to hearing more about it from you.
Aan
I like the LemoNRG.
Keep that up and they will have to put you on the payroll!
Aan
LOL Good Point!
Which Colleges and Universities sell BP's products anyways? The PR only says "Forms Distribution alliances with major universities..."
Aan
The only criticism I really have about the two products is the specific targeted marketing of the product. I have seen many guys say they like the flavour of LP but are either embarrassed or shy about displaying it to the public (a guy drinking a girl's drink). It’s nice that LP has been marketed towards women however if you want product to sell to males (who also enjoy the flavour), a unisex label would be more appropriate. I am pretty fond of the LP artwork however and therefore would hate to see it changed.
If you look at the most popular drinks on the market, they carry a brand name followed by the flavour which distiguishes it from others of the same brand. Not sure why BP didn't follow this idea but maybe they have considered this already.
Aan
Thanks much! Without more "reliable sources" which I have asked for from JD, I can't do much more at the moment. I would probably have better success if I had experience as a writer or knew the ins and outs of wikipedia. Hopefully, he will get back to me soon.
Aan
Yes you can do a limit order online. Depending on how many shares you want, you may only get a partial fill so if you want to ensure you get them all, do a GTC or good till cancel. Don't do market order.
LOL Me too! Im trying to load up as much as I can.
I am not able to say but there will be some pretty great news coming out soon. When it does, you will be eating your words.
It's ok to be skeptical but the majority of people don't see whats going on behind the scenes. If you were a fly on the wall, you would be pretty pumped and buying BNPD stock.
There are alot of people putting their blood and sweat into this.
Aan
Wikipedia... Well I modified the title now that my 4 days waiting period is over. I am still waiting for the mods to get back to me to ensure the article can stay as well.
It is now listed as lady pink energy drink.
FYI when I googled "lady pink energy drink" it came up 7th from the top! Gotta love spiders =) Anyone who searches for it will see it and probably go to wiki to read about the product. This should definitely help educate people about it. I am trying to get onto BP's website but it must be down for maintenance.
I hope and pray wiki will allow it to stay on. Gonna write JD back to see if he located an article in a Nevada Newspaper.
Aan
The Caffeine Base. The one you referenced to ingredients in BT. Hopefully they have LP there too.
Do you happen to have a link for that by any chance?
Thanks a ton,
Aan
Thanks again for your help. Seems the wiki gods still arent happy. I would like to ask them what specifically they want changed. I have never posted in "talk" format before. Can you assist me in how I should format a message to them please? When I went to the "edit this page" I am not familiar with all the characters and such. Should I just type as you did and insert my username as you did?
Thanks for your time,
Aan
I don't mind at all. I really appreciate any help I can get. As I mentioned in a previous post, I have to wait 4 days after signing up to change the title.
Got a nice email from JD offering thanks for the work. I think with all the social networking you all are doing to promote the product, it will be no time before BT/LP is well known.
I see a few people have requested that the wiki article not be deleted. If it is any of you guys, thank you very much!
I plan to do that on the wiki article as a picture but before that is done, I need to provide them with some info about BP.
Could you please elaborate?
Thanks Soma, I will see if they can use this. The picture and article should help. Much appreciated!
Thanks drproteus. I am working hard on this to get it done but there are a few challenges ahead. I will post what the wiki gods have written since they are considering deleting the article.
I will sum it up so you can get an idea of what the deal is.
The credibility of BP is being questioned. Since BP is relatively small, they want verifiable sources from a reliable source (WP:RS) A reliable source is like an article from a well known newspaper. They are not interested in market wire because they just send the info out that is sent to them. I have spent a few hours already trying to find something in an online news article that can tip the scales in our favour. They don't question the products just the company. Im not sure what it matters really...The wiki article is focused on the drink mostly. Below is what the wikians wrote. Reference to the Lady Pink (r) is made but I intend to change it.
I would strongly recommend that if you like the wiki article, you write a comment in the discussion page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lady_Pink_(r)
From Wikipedia:
"I'm hesitant - so weak keep. Coverage isn't extensive but [1] and [2] are both WP:RS even if the specific articles may have credibility issues (the former is about a company, not a product and the latter reads like a reworded press release). In any case, if kept, this should be moved to Lady Pink (energy drink) and a disambig notice should be added to Lady Pink (or a disambig page could be set up). Usrnme h8er (talk · contribs) 16:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Usrnme h8er, the links you posted are press releases, if you scroll to the very end of the page it either says 'press releases' or gives a link for 'more press releases'. PhilKnight (talk) 18:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
True, the sheer amount of press release material out there actually fooled me. changing my !vote to weak delete - there is some stuff, but it's mostly references in stock speculation discussions - nothing that seems to meet RS criteria. Usrnme h8er (talk · contribs) 08:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lady_Pink_(r)"
There was a counter before but they disabled it for site performance. There is however, a third party site where you can see how many hits your search term has had. http://stats.grok.se/
Lady Pink (r) (which I will change to Lady Pink Energy Drink) has had 285 hits since I started working on it last night. Good exposure already me thinks!
Once I get LP complete and compliant, I am going to start on a Bionic Tonic and Bionic Products Wiki. As more products come online, I will do those too if someone hasn't done it already.
Hopefully it helps get the products some well deserved attention.
Made some changes to wiki page but I have to wait for a couple days to change the title. Since I never had a username on wiki, it takes 4 days to change a title. I am going to replace Lady Pink (r) with Lady Pink Energy Drink. The reason I had the (r) in there at first was because I was trying to add the registered trademark but it would not work. After the waiting period, I am also gonna add the Lady Pink can picture.
I looked at quite a few that were listed and tried to keep it similar. The notice appeared immediately after I submitted it so I don’t know if it’s an automatic thing. I read the reasoning to try and see if I can resolve the problem but I have to say, doing a page on wiki is not the easiest thing in the world. If anyone has experience doing a wiki page, feel free to see if you can identify the problem and resolve it. There is hardly any support for the site. I feel like it runs you in circles...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Pink_(r)
I have to wait 4 days to upload an image. I might see if it can be changed to Lady Pink Energy Drink or something to be easier to find. This is my first shot at doing a wiki post. Actually got my fiance helping me out to make the change right now.
Thanks dude!
Re: Wikipedia. I got some help with this so hopefully with her help, it will look real good.
Well, I did some work on Wikipedia last night but it was only supposed to be in my sandbox. Turns out, it went public...I did the best I could with it but I don't know html all that good. If I could get some help, I would really appreciate it. I did Lady Pink first. I tried doing Lady Pink with the Registered symbol but just got the (r). If its not too bad, I will continue to work on the BT and Innoculation if that's alright?
Thanks,
Aan
Thanks Scratchee =) I am pretty pumped about the idea as well.
You bet but I would want to be extremely thorough if I were going to start a project like that. I would want specifics and ideology. If I were to make a wiki entry, I would be as detailed as possible.
That is a really good question. I wish I could answer your question definatively but you very well could be right. I don't believe having preferred stock is really all that much of a benefit to tell you the truth. Even in large caps, it just gives you first in line status for dividend payments. If you have to buy preferred for that reason, I would probably skip it all together (worrying if you are gonna get your dividend).
If it were me, I would sit on the sidelines, wait for the r/s and wait for the share price to tank, and then buy in. This almost always happens after a r/s.
If you find a better answer, I would be interested in hearing it. Thx!
Does anyone here have intimate knowledge of LP and BT along with in depth company info? I was thinking, whenever I search for something, wikipedia always seems to be at the top. Why not do a wiki submission on those. I bet that would really help get the word out. I would be happy to do it if I have all the info on hand.
Another awesome idea. They don't rank in the top 100,000 with alexa but heck, any more exposure would really be good.
Now you are talking! I wanted to mention that the other night but being half in a daze working midnights, I completely forgot. Considering the float could be bought back for relatively little amount, a share buyback program would be a win/win for all concerned. Good post scratchee.
What boards are you referring to? If its OTCBB the cost to list there is around $250,000 and if your referring to the Amex, BP does not meet the standards http://www.amex.com/equities/howToLst/eq_HTL_ListStandards.html
When the company can pull in 75 million and maintain an average $3 share price or more, sure.
I have to disagree with you strongly in regards to a reverse split. Reverse splits are one of the worst things you can do to a stockholder. Yes the price goes up, but in terms of what you actually have as a shareholder is ultimately, the same thing. In almost all cases, reverse splits end up killing the stock price because it quickly falls again after the reverse split. Companies that reverse split are either on the verge of bankruptcy or are desperate to keep their listing status due to the rules on the exchange to which they are listed.
I believe niter is just providing us with constructive criticism. I would rather someone tell me their opinion and get me to think about things deeper rather than have someone throw sunshine up my ass all day.
You are correct in that BP is limited in their ability to spend cash on pr/lawyers and the place they are in now is much better than where they were before. I think the guys and gals are doing a good job. Sure I think they can do better but it's easy to armchair quarterback as well! LOL Frank Mir and Ken Hahn is getting compensated somehow and if I were to guess, it is with stock. I sent BP an email a while ago recommending that they try to get Gina Carano. She is an incredible athelete and would do amazing things for the LP brand. That email went unanswered so I cannot say if it was actually taken seriously.
The only way that we as shareholders will see any significant change in share price is by providing transparency. How much money are they making? How much positive growth is there every quarter? You want serious attention paid to BNPD? That is the way to get it. This of course will take time.
I am totally convinced that BP will do amazing things in the future and will reward shareholders accordingly. Until that time comes, I am content to buy and hold more stock whenever the opportunity presents itself. I only invest in companies I believe in.
I have been following GGLB for some time now and the announcement of a reverse split is, in my opinion, not good. Reverse splits of stock are almost in all cases, a bad sign. Usually, when a reverse split happens, it means the company is in bad shape. Companies on the verge of bancruptcy do reverse splits. They never really benefit the shareholder because as soon as the split happens, the stock quickly drops even further. We will see what happens anyways. I am all about going green but the company still need to show a profit. Just my 2 cents anyways.