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Yes, and there were an equal number of predictions of SP to be at $100, $200, $1,000, $2,000+ 6 and 7 years ago. Those same outlandish predictions are still being made today. One prediction was for $100 by tomorrow.
Would you care to address those predictions?
NNVC was repeatedly predicted to be at $1 or $2 by end the of summer. Summer is over and the current $3.40 is being ridiculed.
To your point(s), don't you think a little straight-forward, honest communication from the company would assuage the concerns of many?
I see a company working steadily toward a clear objective: proving that viricides work in humans and being ready with manufacturing when that proof is made.
I see no "plethora of things" plaguing this company. I see that something difficult and novel is being done, that problems arise, and that the problems are overcome.
I don't see straight line predictable progress but I've been through enough massive and complex software development processes to know better than to have any such expectation.
Something that looks simple to do to an observer positioned at a great distance from the actual work, who knows nothing about what actually has to be done, can turn out to be maddeningly filled with unexpected devils that live in the details.
And, just because something seemed from a distance to be a small detail it doesn't mean that an issue that shows up in that detail will be quick and simple to deal with.
I recall an issue involving the difference between zero and null, a tiny thing, right? But it required re-engineering a significant part of a complex database engine. No, we didn't ship on time. But when we did ship, it was right.
Doc Kaz,
I can certainly see that, but I find the unbridled, unsupportable cheerleading that goes on between and amongst the supporters here equally, if not more, as distressing as the negative dialogue of which you speak.
Often times it is so cloyingly sweet and saturated with, what I believe to be, intentional yet well-disguised barbs.
I do believe that this may be a good entry point for purchasing trading shares, as I'm not yet convinced of the long-term viability.
That would presume that 'we' viewed ourselves as wounded.
IMO - that is not the case.
Uncivil discourse has caused many to depart this particular venue, or to limit themselves primarily to lurking and not engaging in some of the more terse dialogue abundant here.
I am personally still 'Green' here by a fairly substantial margin. Am actually thinking about buying some shares for the first time since before the R/S just because the upside to doing so has shifted again with the short-term decrease in shareprices.
I loved our original group of posters (most of whom have fled the current tone)
If the war effort slow stocks the TOX START can lift NNVC.
Q: How soon before we see results?
A: Soon.
I notice that, of late, the PR knee-jerk price jack-ups are having less and less effect on SP. Used to really have a nice Monday morning lift. This does not help my trading position.
Market manipulation is the A number 1 reason given for SP decline. It never seems to be the result of lack of results, lack of interest or any other number of reasons.
In my humble opinon, the current price is being manipulated by the market makers and shorts who are trying to make a few sure dollars by tradeing the stock. I am in for the long term which is based upon the science and the intergrety of the principles of the company, GO NNVC.
I tried to stop following this trash many times but it's too addicting, especially since I have sources feeding me some rather damning info.
Interested from hearing from both sides of the fence...
What do you think would be the market reaction if something significant isn't announced in say 30 days? Or some further reason for delay is given?
Would any of the Diehards and True Believers start to question the faith, or are you in it to the end, no matter what the result or cost? i.e. doesn't matter if anything is announced in two, three, five, ten years, you'll stick with it as long as it exists or is run into the ground?
Detractors: would this be the end or close to it? How much longer can this be floated on no significant news or results. Is it a pyramid scheme that has finally run its course? No longer a supply of new marks to keep it afloat?
Discuss.
Seymour used to post on message boards.
Email from Dr. Seymour at $5.70 per share on 9/26/13:
What's there to worry or be concerned about? [Uh, for starters, losing money]
They're paying too much attention to the stock price on a daily basis [Uh, that's what we do. It's important to us.]
These are meaningless fluctuations [No, no they're not]
They will make themselves crazy [Yes, yes we will]
The important thing is the science and that's moving along very nicely [Is it? Is it really? How the heck do WE know that?]
When it goes down, buy more!!!!! [Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmmmmm'...]
EUGENE SEYMOUR, MD, MPH
Chief Executive Officer
NANOVIRICIDES, INC
Nanotechnology-based targeted anti-viral therapeutics
www.nanoviricides.com
eugene@nanoviricides.com
310-486-5677
I can certainly see your point. One of my contentions is why invest now or 7-8 years ago, since NNVC SP has gone nowhere?
Why not wait until the science is actually proven? Or there is actual success? If it's going to take off, there'll be plenty of time to hop on board.
I've taken my money out of NNVC and have been getting much better returns with scratch-off lottery tickets.
I'll re-examine my investment strategy when there's a scintilla of evidence that it works.
You know what is great about being 'A Long' who believes in the science and eventual success of NNVC? A stress free mind when it comes to this company and it's slow but steady pace to product delivery. No need or desire for endless yammerings on this doc or that delay or that past announcement or some made up reason to convince others' to give up their precious shares....just patience. Lovely.
Nope.
I assume soon but you know what 'soon' means around here.
Do you have an estimate on how long I will need to wait? I hope your estimate is better than my dentist's estimate on how long I'll be in his reception area...
Wait for the USAMRIID publication - they know what counts.
Summer is over, the leaves are changing colour, the air is crisp and NanoViricides (NNVC) is heading for $100+ by Friday [September 25, 2014].
My solemn oath... I will leave this board if:
a) Ebolacide hasn't shipped to BASI by September 31st, 2014
or
b) TOX hasn't started for Flucide by December 32nd, 2014
Just kidding. I'm not going to leave until I make million$ on my NNVC shares.
Until and unless presented with evidence to the contrary, I have no option other than to concur with your assessment.
Warning....
Rawnoc Member Level Sunday, 09/14/14 09:47:08 PM
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My sources say Flucide Tox has taken a back seat. They're all over Ebola now. Flucide is on the back burner.
They will be using the new facility for Tox materials, which will ultimately make production faster, but will make the start anyone's guess. It's all about EBOLA now.
They claim the there will be Ebola testing before year's end, and are hoping that this will squelch the [shareholders] from demanding flucide Tox.
"We would be foolish and irresponsible if we didn't take advantage of this huge opportunity all the media attention will bring us."
And then, next March when there is still no news, they will say they are starting Flucide Tox up again. Had to stop production to accommodate the Ebola opportunity, but now they're back to producing Flucide and as soon as they have enough material they will send it to BASi.
Forget flucide for the foreseeable future.
It's a shame Flucide has been forgotten in the rush for Ebolacide. It seemed so promising. We were on the brink of success and then BAM!!!
Shut down because it had to take a back seat to one of our own competing products.
The horror!
What's the hold up on that Ebolacide thinga-ma-hootchy?
Enquiring minds need to know.
Soon you will understand my friend!
FN
Ebola Could Infect 1.4 Million People by End of January, CDC Projects
Sep 23, 2014, 11:57 AM ET
By SYDNEY LUPKIN
SYDNEY LUPKIN More From Sydney »
Health Reporter
PHOTO: A member of a volunteer medical team wears protective glasses before burying the body of an Ebola victim in Conakry, Guinea on Sept. 13, 2014.
A member of a volunteer medical team wears protective glasses before burying the body of an Ebola victim in Conakry, Guinea on Sept. 13, 2014. Mamadou Cellou Diallo/Getty Images
BRING ON THE CIDES !!!!!!!!! IT'S TIME TO SHOW EM WHAT WE GOT !!!!!!
With all of the EBOLA in the news NNVC needs to SHIP FLUCIDE to BASI and TOX.
Wait! What?
Could you repeat that number? Perhaps re-post it for those who were distracted?
1.4 what? Million? Or did that say 'Billion'??? 'Trillion'????? I didn't quite catch it the first, second or third time.
How will NNVC be able to help? Has anything been proven with NNVC's efficacy against Ebola? Speculation and supposition does not count!
Ebola Could Infect 1.4 Million People by End of January, CDC Projects
What's your point? I don't see how this is, in any way, related to NNVC...
CDC: Ebola could infect 1.4 million people by January
Liz Szabo, USA TODAY 12:03 p.m. EDT September 23, 2014
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/22/ebola-last-forever/16072019/
Thank you for sharing this email that answers our questions.
Leifsmith, Great post! The shortest distance between two points is a straight line. (Geometry)
The summer has ended well for NNVC!
After the prediction of $1 from a few shareholders on IHUB,
Yesterday, the share price ended at 3.40.
The reason is that the company is working very hard on 2 of their drugs: Flucide and Ebolacide2.
Following a serious event on ebola in West Africa, Dr Seymour has appeared on national television to talk about their program to stop the epidemic. Ebolacide2 may be the only drug for it.
Today, the first day of spring, the stock is up, promising a great end of the year for NNVC.
FN
Sorry, lousy eng, we must agree to disagree.
There is no more bullshit in my missive than in the countless exclamations of grandeur that issue forth from the zealots' mouths each and every day.
Show me a day where there's not a prediction of 'something wonderful is about to happen' from the Moonies.
If something wonderful does happen, I'll be the first one to change my tune. Until that day, I'll continue to express my opinion just as everybody else here expresses their's.
There are better things to do than spending time writing this bullshit "essay". I'll say it again, this is a buy and hold stock. If you want instant gratification, go and bet your money in Las Vegas. Or you can buy "proven stocks" like Ali Baba, NNVC is not for you.
Find something else to do. This isn't working. Go NNVC!
You think they know a good thing when they see it??
Can't wait to see how this gets spun as negative
How's this for starters?
How many shares did they purchase at $4.00? How about $4.50? $5.00???
Not sure how to calculate how close they are to soon and shortly.
You multiply by the reciprocal of "just around the corner" and add it to the square of "on the brink of greatness".
An open letter to NNVC stockholders (past, present and/or future):
Dear Long Shareholder:
Please do not be alarmed by the recent and continual drop in share price. You must view this as a glass-half-full type of situation. Please consider the buying opportunities that prevail themselves upon you. For each drop in share price, you are able to purchase a higher number of shares with the same amount of money and, after all, isn't that why you are really in this game: to own the highest number of shares? This will assist you later on (don't ask me when!) as you sell your shares at prices rivaling (I should say surpassing, but I don't want to appear unrealistic) the priciest stocks.
That reverse-split NNVC did a while back was so that it could maintain its position on the Big Board despite share price erosion. And, hey, it's working!! Price is plumetting, but we're still here!! Keep in mind, as long as NNVC is on the NYSE, it doesn't really matter what the price is, as long as you can buy more shares. Possible delisting? C'mon. Are you serious?? Not for at least a month or two!! Plenty of time to sink, er, uh, ahem, 'invest' more money. Yeah, that's it, 'invest.'
You must not let the detractors get to you. They claim that higher share price is really what your goal should be, as if an increase in position is something you should consider as a goal. Laughable. Don't let them fool you!
Just remember to stay positive, no matter how many deadlines are missed or how much information is disclosed or rather, NOT disclosed, ha ha, wink wink ('inside' joke - don't worry, you'll catch on soon enough), or how much money you lose. Hehehehehehehehehehehe.
Remember, keep the faith, you will be rewarded. If not financially, at least with the knowledge that you are allowing Good Doctors and those close to Good Doctors to increase and continue a comfortable lifestyle while millions of people die of terrible diseases every year (After all, shouldn't Good Doctors live in comfort and style while millions suffer?). Rest assured, NNVC is developing 'cides' to cure each and every one of these diseases. Death will be a thing of the past!!! I see incredible, unrealistic and fantastical share prices in the near future. Never you mind that these prices exist in my delusional mind only. Don't be such a pessimist! Were you raised by a pack of Debbie Downers or Negative Nellies!!??
Won't you join me in supporting and enriching the lifestyles of others and not yourselves or your fellow shareholders? Don't be greedy!! Be a Humanitarian!! Donate today!!
As an added incentive, when you donate thousands (preferably tens of thousands) of dollars to this company, you are eligible to join the NNVC Wonderful Mutual Admiration and Cheerleading Karma Optimists Society (WmACKOS), an organization of members whose sole purpose is to 'rally the troops' with terms of endearment and positive-thinking platitudes. You'll be thrilled with the never-ending 'sky's-the-limit' exclamations, 'hey-we've-lost-more-money let's-buy-additional-shares', and 'TOX-is-going-to-be-announced-on-my-mark-wait-for-it' back patting. If you upgrade to the Platinum WmACKOS membership level (by simply bending the knee and swearing fealty to NNVC principals), you'll be able to exchange 'wink-wink', 'tee-hee-hee' and 'we-know-something-that-nobody-else-knows (even-though-we-really-don't-but-we-want-others-to-think-we-do)' banter with fellow members. You'll be able to carry on for years, exclaiming the virtues of this company, hinting daily of grandeur to come. When it doen't materialize, you can just shrug it off and bait the next round of enterpreneurs.
You'll also be able to utilize mock indignation when the detractors call you out. You'll be able to act as if it's a personal affront to you and Good Doctors, almost as if you were in some way closely associated with Good Doctors in a manner that borders on impropriety.
'What color is the sky in my world?', you ask? Why, it's the color of NNVC, of course! Don't make me get busy with specifics, 'cause that ain't gonna happen!! (tee hee, another 'inside' joke) Just take comfort in the knowledge that this baby's going to fly. Why, success is just around the corner. We are on the brink of greatness. [insert fanatical euphemisms of your choice here]. Doesn't matter when, doesn't matter how. Just take my word for it, 'cause that's all you got and all you're going to get! Oh wait, let me obscure the issues further with minutiae, so the 'facts' are obfuscated.
P.S. I am wearing my Hypno-specs as I write this, so you should become anesthetized by my soothing message and unwavering optimism. Please don't ask me from where this optimism is derived, because I won't answer that. It just plain ol' doesn't make any sense and anyway, it's not important. All that's important is that you keep investing. Buy low, buy high. Just buy, buy, buy!! What have you got to lose but your hard-earned money and self-respect. Belay that frustration, me maties!!! We sail on the morrow!!
DISCLAIMER: Always do your own due diligence before investing in any stock. Statements made in this letter may or may not be of a satirical and/or fictional nature.
TOX Announcement can happen any day of the week!
I asked my employer if I could get paid triple my salary for
- missing every deadline I ever stated I'd make in the performance of my duties
- not generating a single penny of revenue for my company
- obtaining publicity for the company (but I had to pay for it out of company coffers - nothing's free, after all)
- attending conferences, making presentations, traveling on the company's dime
- diluting the company stock on a consistent basis
He turned me down. He told me to, "get back to work, it's a wonder I haven't fired you for poor performance and a slew of other reasons." What nerve!
Uhhhh, the "Beach Celebration" has been taking place for years. It's just that only a select few have been invited.
Question to NNVC'rs; Which is closer, 'Just around the corner' or 'On the brink' , or it ready doesn't matter as it's a 'Cumbaya Beach Stock' for devotees ?
On Friday last, I conferred with my pet chimpanzee and he pointed to the card that stated, "Nothing new with NNVC - SSDD." He gave me a big grin, nodded his head up and down and clapped his hands vigorously over his head.
Wow. His prediction was much better than many other ones I've seen here.
I will leave this board if the share price of NNVC isn't at least $100 by 11:00 am EDT, Friday, September 26, 2014.
Just kidding. Nobody would be so absurd as to make such a statement.