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Artfink, Sorry, but I think you're a fraud........
"ANOTHER EMAIL FROM SANDY
Mike:
Who is going to return them to the T/A?
If the DTC participants require 176 trillion then someone has sold more shares then they own, if MM are never required to cover there shorts, then we cannot do anything about the difference.
--> I am think about how to solve this problem.
Does sandy always paraphrase and type like you? Or are you just retyping sandy's emails.... either way it's questionable.
geez, I hope all 23 emails from us don't cut into Sandy's lunch delete session....
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It sounds like a decent idea. But when somebody comes back and posts "this is from Sandy" ..how can we believe the poster???
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Guess what AD..?? I hope I'm wrong too. I never said scam and bkmp in the same sentence, that's just you adding your own slant again. Matter of fact, I didn't type scam at all....
Tfn is a real entity of some sort, Bkmp is a 20% holding company in..in .. something... even that isn't spelled out in black and white clearly.... if I'm investing in your company at least print PR's that one can understand without knowing Latin.
Am I wrong in stating any input from bkmp has been vague? No.
Is it too demanding to ask for a simple update, and I mean REAL update… financial type data if possible, oh maybe once every month or so...??? Absolutely not.
Hiring another talking head is not news to push pps
Even with sub pennies, I look at the past histories of the company and it's officers…. to not try to learn from past mistakes is not real wise money management. And I think most would agree, part of the trick to making
money here IS money management.
This is negative because I'm not rah rah the company?? BS…this is being realistic and protecting my interests.
If you don't allow counter point discussion here then the pumpers will reign and no one can be subjective and intelligent in their research.
I jump on these boards early as I've found that sometimes the threads have news faster than otcbb or other sites.
So that's a good thing.
Oh yea, my mind reading tells me REVERSE SPLIT REAL SOON …….
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It's important that we don't let our hopes and dreams cloud our vision and blur the lines of reality... I've got cash in this too, and I'm tired of reading all the desperate people grasping at theories they wouldn't believe themselves if we could only get real data. For people to believe a 100's of trillions dividend is the real deal is dis-hearteningly sad.
I'm afraid that this board is on a slippery slope toward a cult like cmkx... it's too scary.
There's no way to control people from bashing and pumping... but we sure can try to look at this crap rationally and see 100 something trillion dividend is most likely NOT the real deal...........good luck
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come on AD ... what's this.. "but it would be disastrous for BKMP if R/S'ed IMO. Sandy does NOT want to ruin things here"
please quit saying shit you don't know about... YOU do not read minds, especially Sandy's. For all you know, 'Sandy' may already have all his plans written down and it may include wiping out all the bkmp shareholders so he can start over....
Somehow, TFN has to survive and we have to be allowed to go along for the ride.... if my scenario plays out, then we're screwed by yet again another sub penny scheme.....
If Tfn goes public, then we may yet cash in....
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SPEC:: What a penny company gives a penny company can take away... there's no law that bkmp can't cancel the pref'ds. It's been done before, they can state too much problems with dtc, td...etc. Maybe it's not supposed to be settled because we're not supposed to be getting them...ya think?
But if the prf'd are settled..(more spec) I think bkmp will do r/s 10000 to 1 of the preferred. or more even... then name change to tfn, and maybe deem all shares of bkmp worthless. All has been done before by many pinkies.... if you look at the financial links given today, you'll note a r/s 10000 to 1. Sound familiar?
the real problem here, will any of these shenanigans ruin Tfn, which is the only real entity that we can be sure of?
All this time, with no explanation about a ridiculous div of 130 trillion. Doesn't anyone think we should at least be given a shred of reliable information.
All people on this board do is pump and bash in the dark.
This is absolutely unacceptable. But I'll be dipped in ca ca if I know what to do about it!
glta we need it.
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OT:: Seabiscut... My post was a trick question... since no one or no company has ever provided proof of NSS (everyone throws speculated numbers at the theory...and any copy/paste of the o/s math formula's are spec too) you would never find a link to my data request. It's not your strong language, there wasn't any, it's the conviction of your phrasing that would make people assume your comment was fact...
Even the most knowledgable long term traders only speculate about MM's to this day.
Don't you just love penny stocks ... America rock's
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Okay, I have to respond to this...seab..
"Sandy Winick has apparently been unsuccessful at compelling the Brokerages to resolve the NSS positions in BKMP , otherwise we would see the Brokerages receiving FULL measures of the dividend shares ."
seabiscut, you were asking questions not 2 months ago how trading works and now you state the above about Sandy failing at something nobody knows he was even attempting....your strong statements will be taken as fact.. again ... regardless of your claims (and I'll get slammed for this, I think you should refrain from adding to the confusion by having links to data for substantiation.) You bring much to the thread, you will do as you wish, I'm just asking for realistic data....
thanks for everything you do
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Awww, what fun is that??
Guess it'll have to do...
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If Gwgo r/s's, like I think they will for sure, it will decimate most of us small shareholders as r/s's usually do in sub penny land. I'm hoping to catch the timing so I can get my butt out with some cash... If Gwgo is getting out of the mining sector, why in the world do I want to stay in it. Hmmm.
I always cringe near a Friday before a monday holiday, because I've had 5 sub pennies r/s on me on just that set-up...announced split at 2:45 on a Friday late afternoon with it official the next Tuesday morning before opening bell... grrrrr
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Question to Matt... I need to know the proper steps in discussing a poster who attacks me vulgarly in private messages.
thanks
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burnsby posted ...geesh...Cramer just made love to blockbuster on his show!
I'm not sure what Cramer knows but BB just shut down 2 stores here in Royal Oak, Michigan. Perhaps they will open a bigger one somewhere else in the city...
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Mimurry, I can't find question/answer board, does it go by another name....??thx
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fine, thanks
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Did somebody post that Mark Cuban's co got TFN test spot on Bellvue...??? I thought Tfn had that for some more time... did they get cut off or what...
Here's to hoping Bkmp merges 100% with TFN, converts our bkmp common to TFN 100% and gives us a chance to convert bkmpp to common as well.... well, a guy can dream can't he?!
mngt... Sorry, I'm going to call you on the ad costs you stated. The part about the signed agreement is correct, but my wife has been retail management for over 15 yrs, and I've been in and out of retail management myself.... It's in Gnf filings that Gnf assumes ALL costs, meaning they pay a standard ad fee to CC., CC has it's own inhouse ad, marketing and printing departments so it most likely doesn't cost them much at all. Part of CC doing business...Gnf has been responsible for shipment, confirmation and all affiliated costs involved as spelled out in Gnf filings.
CC assumes no risks or costs when dealing with Gnf as Gnf is just another vendor seeking shelf space with CC. Make no mistake, Gnf pays to be in the circular.... I'm speculating that if any holiday push happens with Gnf and CC, it's because Gnf paid CC for more name branding in the stores.... Gnf has been in Troy, Michigan since late may 06, and I've never, never seen even a small logo on any CC TV ad... and after more than 20 trips in 6 months have never seen one flier, floor ad, stand ad or front door entry cards, flier..etc,etc... That is FACT. What does this tell me?... JF won't or can't pay CC for any special treatment and CC is under no obligation to assume an active role. The CC and Gnf filings were vague at best, but were clear enough to see it was all up to Gnf NOT CC to push this product... It was so nice to see a real sub penny product out in the wild ... but I fear it was a relatively inexpensive attempt at name recognition and not a true venue stream... just my op of course... yours may vary
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Gwgo is confusing again! They are holding 'on book' our spins from 05,06. Are these spins coming this year? Almost looks that way...
Gwgo is really pissing me off, I've always wondered if this holding company was shady, now they're proving it.
Like I've said, I only want to time selling everything before they reverse split me to oblivion. Which Gwgo most likely will do at a moments notice..........the false valuation statements of interests is telling me this.
As time goes on, it looks more like the mine supports down under are collapsing around us..... and I'm claustrophobic....gaaaaaa
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You people crack me up with the way certain people post with absolute certainty what Sandy is doing, will do or not do.... Artfink, you got caught being a little full of yourself by nmbr1stckpckr about the DTC, he's right, you don't just get forwarded like your a vice prez or something....
And, what's wrong with flipping any sub penny stock, that's how you make money too. I've put myself in a good position with bkmp by flipping, making back many times my initial outlay, and now I'm playing with free shares while holding a small rowboat of shares just in case Tfn makes it somewhere. I have a problem with people deceptive subterfuges influencing people to hold long, when historically the ODDS are long against sub penny companies breaking the penny surface in a legitimate revenue bearing way.
How can people not think the people preaching long holding and buying more aren't selling to you!! It's apparently human nature to be skeptical too.
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OT: interesting aside... my firefox beta 2.0 won't let me post replies in Ihub, but any other board I visit has no problem... I have to use IE to post in IHUB... ihub prob or firefox?????
Visited Troy, Michigan Circuit City. Found Gnf cases next to xbox 360 stuff... this time 12 cases... and I counted 5 of the pre marked cases by me still there... no ad in this weeks flier on counters, out of rotation this week perhaps, or didn't see it when looking through one at counter.... no in store ads or fliers either. No signs at doors, in other words no in store advertising seen this trip. Huge push for their Firedog service stuff though. Talked to 2 sales people at a firedog counter... asked about gnf, said I saw it on website and was interested... neither knew about product, one walked around with me looking for it. I had scoped it out when I first came in, but I had to point it out to sales guy. He said, wow, didn't know we had anything like that. At the counter, I asked how much CC charged to rent movies... he said, oh we don't do that yet.
In all my visits now, I've come away convinced more than ever that Gnf is just another, nothing special vendor product to be scanned and stuck on a peg anywhere there's an opening. When I worked at a Meijer Gas station, assistant manager, we had a boatload of vendors just taking up space, filling their own stock and most on modified consignment gigs. Look around CC, way too many brands and products to even think of focused, trained point of sell by any sales staff. That's just plain silly in a electronic/appliance store....
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Oh, just great... interactive commercials... its not bad enough I can't get away from them, now ads are stuck in games and distrupt your experience. What next, little voice activated tags on my underwear telling what TP to buy?... wait, maybe I should patent that idea.......
CC report to follow next post...
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about gwgo... has anyone noticed that gwgo claims not to exceed a valuation on whatever mining interests the pr is talking about, but with every pr in the last weeks, the values have risen from 100 million to 800 million so far.......... these amounts are invented by gwgo on paper mining interests that are nearly impossible for the average shareholder to check up on. I'm getting really wary of this group in the last few months....
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Yes, that may still be a little stigma on your resume...
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I am so sick of Webprods bi-weekly next week predictions... how many times can he repeat this... well, enough times and people will believe it... or something happens and he claims knowledge.
I'm claiming webpds is selling all the way since he got here.... I think he has boatloads of shares and is doing the classic dump.... I don't care what language he posts in...
ENOUGH ALREADY !!!!
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wick, you forgot pornagrapher...............
Wick, I used the link from your post #215245 ... it landed at the sign in page and I found the sign in full programs right next to the trial stuff and mock signed in in the next two clicks.... I didn't have a problem, did they fix something?
I used IE for this test, as I use firefox for the boards as I block ads with it....
So, I'm missing some thing here...?
But the site is mega amateur... web design 101, with nothing but templates.... ugh.
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Oh great...Buckey's got one of the pee wee hockey players driving his car...........wwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Okay, it's been 2 hours since Buckey's been in the bar.... hope he's not under the table.... but, he brings his computer to the bar??? If he has his hands on his beers, whats he typing with.....
just a thought.........
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SPEC:: Sorry, but JF's head & heart don't seem to be here behind Gnf... Like I said before, I think we may finally see that Gnf is only bridge financing for LiTV and JF's castle in London.... if I had boatloads of free money, I might do the same. It's very, very common for Ceo's to plan their futures on the backs of their pasts... JF would not be the first to suck dry a penny stock to swim the channel. Nothing should surprise us at this point.
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Proof..?? Ice, you spew 99% of people read banner ads... where's your links to that "fact" ...
you won't have one because you type before you think....
but its been fun counter pointing and stuff.
Going to check my closest CC to see if they still have the same stinking cd cases since May.... will report back in few days on that ..
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Ihub must be upgrading or something... been doing caca all day.
At lease I hope that's whats going on. Not some DDOS attack, or something even newer....
G.night all
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Ice.. you must sell banner ads... right.?
43 hours of activity a day...... what a ridiculous statement...
one of those inventive advertising numbers ...
UM, is it possible that ZDnet research gets PAID for those numbers, by the very same advertisers.... my vast experience tells me BIGGER numbers results mean Bigger checks... wow, what a concept...........
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Now, it's time, unfortunately, to go to Microshits website to download all the new patches to fix crap they didn't.
Couple of activeX hacks in the wild....
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Exch... you dunce... I said eyeballs on web ads are declining and they don't want people to know it... I didn't say NOBODY, you said that and don't put words in people's posts.. okay...
Wick, the website sucks because JF did it himself with Websites for Dummies book.!! He should of used Websites for Morons II.
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Gee Ice.. 99% eh..? I must be the other 1% I guess. I think your off by about 50% and going down. Counters on sites have been notorious for huge stupid numbers because most do not account for multi clicking... the numbers are like the nelsons rating,,, checking a neighborhood then multiplying the numbers to "speculate" how many folks are tuning in... and they charge for false positives too. Try dabbling in website design and you'll start getting what I'm implying.
And NO, I don't believe Google's numbers.. or any other click through accounting methods..... I'v worked with big Ad agencies and I've seen them massage the numbers all the time.... sort of like a holding company telling it's shareholders its mining interest of the Peruvian flats succa gondo mine has a value of 570 Million dollars, if of course we can find it and kill all the natives and burn off the fauna.
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Wrong and Wrong///... banner ads use the same mechanisms as pop ups within scripting coding, or any other language web script that is used... to think otherwise is ignorance. An ad is a ad is a ad... ALL type of ads can be blocked.........(well, most http, href can, but server side ones are a little more difficult but still can be blocked)
Again... any numbers you find are biased to the companies themselves... like company PR's. Don't tell me you believe what Ceo's write in their pr's.
I'm talking TV, cable, network airtime... that's the ticket...
try again.
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exch.. I'm willing to bet that you can type in a random ticker and it will allow your input because I think it's all auto software that's not too refined as older brokers... just a stab...
my scottrade still shows L9940 or whatever...
Didn't someone say they saw a different cusip..??
I can't find that post...
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Don't know about you all, but Target was never an item... it's been related to un-counted times by people who can't prove or substantiate a single fact. Always hearsay or second source with no paper trail... forums boards survive on rumors and spec.
Wick, please don't trouble yourself to respond to this comment as you have already and it spoke volumes...
Also, website pop up ads have never been beneficial to anyone but the advertising company selling the ads, and the website charging to host the ads... here's the dirty little secret ad people don't want you to know... POP UP BLOCKERS !!! That's right, every browser has blockers natively ... plus third party ad blockers... How many ads do you think are really being seen... my pre teen nephew and nieces use ad blockers... gramps... e v e r y b o d y ... getting the message? Well, that's because you have the ads blocked.... before blockers, people turned off scripting... I've done this for years since the first ads almost.... guess what?.. I'm using Firefox and don't see a single ad on Ihub... ever. And I don't subscribe. Ihub is charging companies thousands of bucks a week... are they really getting their money's worth? All the numbers are generated by the site software....
SPEC:: That said... IMO web ads are a huge waste of money. I see netflix on prime time cable, why not Gzfx....
I think because JF needs the money to go to London, and support his buddy and start another career. Gzfx will be abandoned and left to fend for itself while JF uses Gnf as bridge financing for London tea time. I have no problem with a Ceo utilizing any and all venues to succeed, looking to the future for growth and what technology it has to invest in to get there... but LiTV has no apparent connection to entertainment and games fulfillment to a subscription based model...
JF hasn't shown a real sincerity for US business, I'm hoping maybe Chip or someone who cares will take over.... but it's looking like a horrific uphill battle against strong competition with a Ceo (JF) who's heart isn't in the battle. It's never been about shareholders, but shareholders don't mean squat if the company tanks... So, here's hoping the future has Gzfx in it, I don't care who's at the wheel... *pun intended...
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Newsmile... I just realized why you went goofy... your dentist seat is too close to the laughing gas .............
right?
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newsmile,,,what the hell did you smoke for lunch ... lol
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