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I doubt Lugee Li would seek the opportunity to face off with Apple in court.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/05/05/apple-to-take-chinese-iphone-trademark-fight-to-supreme-peoples-court
I could not agree with you more! People voting against the Lugee Li deal are determined to go down with the ship. Lugee Li can keep the ship from going down in the first place. I hope some people on the board reconsider and vote YES!
The Market is waiting to see if the Lugee Li deal goes through...
Do we know how much the Engel machines cost?
It's a chicken and egg situation. Liquidmetal alone is worthless. Engel machines alone are worthless. Neither has critical mass. YET.
My guess is that it IS ready, but there are fewer than 10 machines out in the world that can use the material. Engel is excited to sell LOTS of machines. Once they do, we'll start making some bank.
I imagine talking with Steipp would be like talking with Teddy Ruxpin.
If the deal with Lugee Li goes through, the share price will rise to $0.1565 which is his average purchase price. Then it will rise further once we FINALLY hear news of contracts at some point after Li takes over the cockpit.
Amen! "S" is short for Slothy/Sluggish/Slacker. Hopefully all the negative press will kick up the fresh factor at Apple, Inc.
Couldn't Apple have very, very, very easily defined their exclusive rights to usage of Liquidmetal in anything Apple sells in perpetuity? But they didn't. Apple is a very shrewd negotiator, but you don't become Apple by bleeding your partners and suppliers to death. To sustain long-term supremacy, you have to help your partners thrive.
Nay. Everything will ultimately be united by the universal theory of everything, but until then, let's not play with semantics. A car is a car is a car.
Admittedly, yes!
I think they are receiving minuscule revenue for test parts. I think they'll receive larger revenue once tests are complete and parts are manufactured on a mass scale.
Agreed! And the press releases went out of their way to mention sourcing from Liquidmetal. It's GREAT!
Does he already have 5% (before the first-round purchase)?
Here's hoping for:
• Stock buy-backs
• Big contract announcements
• Reverse split (100:1 preferably!!!)
• Re-listing on NASDAQ
Perhaps 46% is enough for him to have a majority following stock buy-backs.
What is the significance of this? I'm not familiar...
I keep telling myself: "Patience is a virtue" and "Good things come to those who wait."
I'm pretending my significant investment is GONE.
What a lovely day it will be if Li launches this rocket!!!
Most smart money is prohibited from buying penny/micro-cap stocks.
He can also make BILLIONS of dollars by contributing to modest success at Liquidmetal!!! So, even assuming entirely selfish anti-altruistic motives, this could still be GREAT for all involved!!!
Ming Chi Kuo is one of the most accurate Apple analysts...
http://www.cultofmac.com/273923/ming-chi-kuo/
That would be a GREAT outcome for our little company!!!
My thoughts exactly!
Question regarding possible revenue streams from Apple (I know, I know... read this in totality before knee-jerk replying):
It is a known fact that Apple owns perpetual licenses to use Liquidmetal without paying a dollar in royalties to Liquidmetal. However, Apple is not entitled to FREE manufacturing of Liquidmetal parts in perpetuity. The board has long argued that Liquidmetal is in no position to supply Apple with global scale manufacturing volume, and that Apple can manufacture in house without paying a penny more to Liquidmetal. However, Apple does NOT manufacture ANYthing in house, in order to maintain flexibility and focus on product DESIGN. WHAT IF... Eontec is establishing itself as Apple's go-to BMG manufacturing partner? Won't Eontec get all associated manufacturing revenues related to their exclusive territories while Liquidmetal gets all associated manufacturing revenues related to North America and Europe? Does it seem possible that Eontec could produce the BMG parts which would then be shipped to Foxconn (or elsewhere) for assembly into the final products?
Thanks for your thoughts and Happy Easter!
My first thought with the Eontec news was that Li bought IP to benefit Eontec and would leave LQMT to die. But then I realized that by helping out Liquidmetal a little bit, he can make significant money (assuming the full $63 million stock purchase occurs), and if he helps Liquidmetal substantially, he can ride his net worth into the stratosphere. Doesn't it seem he has what it takes to bring LQMT from penny stock status to a reputable re-listed NASDAQ stock? Fingers crossed!
I had the same exact first thought upon viewing the leaked photos. IF they are real, the casing with one-piece integrated camera protrusion definitely looks to be injection-molded...
I think this is an Apple-facilitated development that allows Liquidmetal to ramp up global production via EONTEC and it is an incredibly positive development. We'll soon have the ability to crank out millions of parts across many industries. Those parts will be sold along with licenses. That's how we make money. We finally have a viable way to make money. This is so great!!!
EONTEC extends Liquidmetal's "capabilities to significantly larger parts" which indicates they do not require the Engel machines (with limited alloy capacity) to produce parts. The Engel machines seem great for companies that want to create specialized parts in house, but not at the volumes in the hundreds of millions of units like annual iPhones sold. The Engel machines have a very definite relevance for certain purposes, but I don't think Apple production is one of them.
To further your point, Apple almost never (if not NEVER) buys hardware manufacturing capabilities. They outsource manufacturing to remain nimble and specialize in what they do best: DESIGN of hardware, software, and user experience. I am thrilled that this deal with a Chinese manufacturer has popped up because to supply the number of casings needed to supply global iPhone demand, the manufacturer basically needs to be in China. This is such great news, and it stinks of Apple choreography! Good luck to us all!
That is absolutely awesome and I'm very happy for you!!! GREAT story!!!
Your logic has an inherent flaw. You don't know as much as Mr. Li knows. And clearly he is not basing his investment on the assumption of zero revenue...
If Li is buying shares at $0.25, it means he thinks they will be worth no less than $0.25 in the very near future. Mr. Li clearly has a lot more information than anyone on this board. I think it's a pretty safe bet that the price will exceed $0.25 soon.
Here's a serious question for Watts (because I truly respect your knowledge, wisdom, and thoughtfulness on the topic): If you were on a debate team, and you were told to argue the bullish case for LQMT from this point forward, what would your main points be? Is it possible that a cc-free abysmal 10-K was the band-aid ripping off and the healing begins from here? Thank you for your thoughts!
Does anyone else find it odd that the earnings date and call have not yet been announced? A year ago the call was on March 4, 2015, and it was announced before that. Something feels fishy.
Thanks for posting! What's your interpretation?
Sell on euphoria (when most people are crippled by greed) and buy on fear (opportunity). As a human you are hardwired to sell on fear and buy on euphoria. It takes amazing willpower to do the opposite of what your brain tells you to do.
None of the iPhone 7 rumors make me think that we will see Liquidmetal featured prominently in 2016. And Apple's 2-year cycle for significant iPhone design updates depressed me until at least 2018... until I read this:
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/02/apple-rumored-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017
I know "hope" is the worst four-letter word when it comes to investing, but it would be really great for Apple to break their stale 2-year cycle and unveil the first OLED/LQMT iPhone in an odd year...
Here's hoping...