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OT:: this is so OT::
remarkably, this is new news to me, maybe to others... if not, oh well..
CITGO...petroleum, I didn't know was fully owned by Venezuela.. you know that guy calling Bush a pig...I don't even like Bush, but he is head of America... which I like.
In September, 1986, Southland sold a 50 percent interest in CITGO to Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A. (PDVSA), the national oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. PDVSA acquired the remaining half of CITGO in January, 1990. With a secure and ample supply of crude oil, CITGO quickly became a major force in the energy arena.
I've never done this before, but I'm actually going to cut up any gas card to do with Citgo... and never stop, even for free air.... I already do this with other gas stations, I only buy gas, never any other product. Too much...
now back to our regular programming....
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Maybe it would be better if whomever owns more of TFN bought out Sandy, lock stock and barrel and booted him out ..... ..
130 trillion preferred indeed.!!
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Just to be a bug... I thought we can't advertise other stocks or stuff in our sigs.... can I advertise that I'm a real estate agent in michigan???
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Well, Neal, it's a fact that 130 trillion prf'd are now delivered, IMO it would be a impossible to pay a quarterly cash div for 130 trillion shares.... sooo, if one wants to look even slightly legitimate, reverse the prf'd back 1 for 25000 or more and you would still have investors holding and with hope bkmp decides to lift the cash dividend ban that they put on them. NO one still knows why the game of trillions was started yet. Any statement on this forum board can only be pure speculation thus far. NOTHING has been proven at this point.
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OT;;:: to Jim Bishop... I can't post to you on the 'dom' thread, but I wanted to add these links of SWinick if they are viable...definate connection to Paim
I'm sorry, but I could only get them to work as google crap links....
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:KM0nbGmxsfsJ:money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_ge.jsp%3Fnews_id%3Dcmt....
next...
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:vPGAwXITzxkJ:cnn.netscape.cnn.com/story.jsp%3Fid%3D2006021011320....
and a interesting Pink historical factoid,.. sorry if these are repeats ...
https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/623490/6234.." target="_blank">http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ldSAA6l-MuYJ:https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/623490/6234....
Why nobody see's Sandy's past actions and how they may equate to his future is beyond me, but seems obvious in his intentions.
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Unci...well said from the counter point side... strength from one not afraid to be banned or jailed... bravo...
now let the reverse bashing begin .... again....... regretfully
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OT:: To Tina... hey, I'm sorry about your pal Jeter, being sent to the golf course early by our Tigers.... good game against Oakland right now out there in Cal.
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BMO made a mistake... that pyct or whatever is NOT affiliated with gwgo. Scottrade almost always delivers after hours on forward splits... and gwgo said something about another split or company change at the end of October... so read the pr's/
If I had the cash, I would be bulking up on gwgo to have something left when the r/s happens at the end of the month.
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To see preferred share count in online accounts also try the account history tab under types of shares and choose 'dividends'. Each broker has similar listings but all of them will have the figures correctly stated somewhere... keep digging and trying. I've seen all brokers listed in this forum of posters who have found info eventually.
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RANZY...FOR THE 101th TIME... go into your account page online
look for 'account' then positions and you shall find the correct amounts.............
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Q to board... people have been saying a company can't restrict forward split shares... is this true... I thought a company can lable them whatever they want.
Thx S5
Gee, BSD, you must think I'm a person who cares what you think..........
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Of course I am, good or bad, I don't waste my time on stock forums I'm not vested in. I seek info from many forums but only post to my holdings... and what business is it of yours anyways.
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rb*** .. don't drag out that old basher stuff because you have nothing new to bring to the board....
your reply about forward splits is primarily about big board stocks... with incomes and PE ratio's. none of which 90% of pinkies show in their statements.. I hold to my remark that most pink/s can only do reverse splits for a quick realignment of pps...and at the cost of most small investors in their company.
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Thanks simple... this ones for the books....
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afternoon simple.... I was wondering if you ever saw anything about ADOT advanced optical./.. they have cut and pasted their pr's for years and I can't figure out how they are still listed.
any info would be greatly appreciated...
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That's correct..2 different companies...
But I was showing the example of what a company would do to move up a board... and that was reverse splits and dumping on common shareholders... by oblivating your small holdings.... read it again about cancellation... that's my point... put any pink sheet compant in the blank space...
BUY BACK?? they're in the process of a 2 for 1 forward split, who in the hell would buy back with that going on... think first before posting such weirdness....
hope that's english enough... I'm not bilingual...
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morning, just found this little ditty while researching...
this supports my speculation of reverse splits in this company's future....
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Consumers Financial Continues to Move Forward Toward Bulletin Board Listing
CEDARHURST, N.Y., Aug. 23, 2006 (PRIMEZONE) -- Consumers Financial Corporation (Pink Sheets:CFCJ) today announced that it is continuing in the company's transition strategy to move from the Pink Sheets to the OTCBB and is beginning the process of filing for reinstatement to the Over the Counter Bulletin Board.
As part of that process, Consumers has effectively cancelled all Preferred and/or Convertible shares that were issued in the past.
Companies have and do cancel common as well... new name no old shares... this is why I'm watching closely to time gwgo's r/s action.... SPEC:: It will happen.
glta
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I think Cnes is serious about alternative investments to help their bottom. Maybe combining video movie feed to the meters so meter readers can watch movies and sports while they work...!! or us homeowners could watch football on the patio while bbq'ing.
good idea, no?
Actually, my porfolio is split between pinkies that have a real documented product (in stores or in process with proof) and the other 92% of pinks that are holding companies, mining interest companies and e'sales, e'scam..etc etc... I'm long on tangible product and flippy on no substance vaporcompanies... works for me.
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Haven't read posts this morning... but ... NOT OT: below is an example of instant stock oblivion...
Consumers Financial Continues to Move Forward Toward Bulletin Board Listing
CEDARHURST, N.Y., Aug. 23, 2006 (PRIMEZONE) -- Consumers Financial Corporation (Pink Sheets:CFCJ) today announced that it is continuing in the company's transition strategy to move from the Pink Sheets to the OTCBB and is beginning the process of filing for reinstatement to the Over the Counter Bulletin Board.
As part of that process, Consumers has effectively cancelled all Preferred and/or Convertible shares that were issued in the past.
NOTE cancelling of shares....!!!! Is there talk of bkmp moving up?? Companies can give or take as they please so anything can happen. I wouldn't put that down payment on the new house just yet.... at aleast with the prf'd.. also take note, that r/s are common when trying to move up.
gla
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Randy Couture is not worth an uptick? ... let me give an example of real life about reality... I read this 9:15am Couture pr around 11:00am. I own some bkmp, but want to own Tfn stand alone if that's ever going to be possible... okay, I had to set up a food table for my city cable boss's "Protect" meeting this afternoon and when I went back at 4:15 to pick stuff up, I was talking to about 4 people I knew from the tv industry... and maybe 5 more were listening too... And I asked them about Canadian cable and did they know about sport channels specifically TFN and Randy Couture ... total hush... NOT ONE of 10 people ever heard of tfn. 8 males... 1 guy said he watched UPC...(Upc???) fight network.. These are regional cable administers fighting for our jobs against AT&T... All TV people, wouldn't you think people who watch and schedule cable programming all day would know about something as hot as TFN???
YES..NO??? Okay, now my point... only people who are involved with TFN and fans who watch fight networks would know about this stuff....NOT mainstream folks.... that being said, why would people think hiring a retired fighter is going to move pps. 130 trillion dividend didn't move it. This is a extremely small niche market... 70000 people watched a fight? That's would be in only 10 states or territories 7000 people per city of what million at least... spread it out and the numbers get small real fast. Exuberance and excitement are fine about TFN .. unrealistic speculation isn't fair to people just trying to learn about TFN ... We should try and pre read our posts to keep calm and reasonable content all can use....
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SPEC:: Here's my theory ... (read it or not.)
This coming friday, after 2:45 ... bkmp will announce a reverse split of the prf'd ... IMO 1 for 10,000 and will also split common r/s 1 for 1000. Why??? because it's a friday before a holiday monday and sub pennies love to do r/s on holiday mondays. This usually resricts mass sell offs as there isn't much time to react...
IMO of couse, but maybe mark this post... I am.
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Hey Exchange... that's my line... I refrenced Ras to the Illuminati and the space people (grays) that are running the makets right now,....
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OT:: to Nealgalt...both my posts to you were very late night, so you most likely didn't see them... I inquired weather one of your pics was the whirlpool galaxy and did you image it yourself.
Thx.. amateur astronomer here..
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OT:: oh man, thanks, I can smell the koolaid right now. Did the lawyer really walk with all that koolaid funds? I think there's still a cmkx thread going too.... I really don't want to see Bkmp go that way since I think Tfn has a chance of at least generating some income for real....
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Perhaps reverse mergers work this way.... convolutely
OT:: Jim, cmkx was going to break the sec, sound familar.?
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yes, that's because usually the guy with the scam has to keep lying about it ... so dufus keeps talking...
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OT:: Jim, you most likely remember cmkx po box-abandoned gas station addresses....
Nealgalt... was that the whirlpool G in your last pic, and did you image that? thx
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TD ... I wouldn't worry about a post office box... many many companies have multiple po boxes. It's a normal way of doing business here in the states... More volume of mail can be collected, more mail can be dropped off and you can have your meter machine account or whatnot all at that location...
You would need to be worried if the address showed up as a abandoned gas station or something...PO box very common biz..
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Yesterday I saw a ad on cable that was a full contact fight league like tfn, but was FLI, LFI or something... I didn't catch the letters right, it's new. Does anyone know of this other fight club thing..?? Too many fight groups spoiling the soup.
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Oh yea ... I vote Rascia too... totally unbiased and feet firmly on ground...
nuts, and I said I wouldn't say anything about people in ban state...............
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I'll go for the new mod position... why not? everyone hates me already!!!!
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Reading all these posts I'm seeing an interesting thread of thought going on... Tfn is Canadian, but everyone says nothings going to happen until US penetration.. What the hell is wrong with succeeding in canada, then globally etc... it's like canada doesn't mean anything to Tfn (correction, to most shareholders of bkmp).. I'm not even canadian and it's really starting to bother me. If I was a Canadian I would be pissed at everyones repeating its only going to happen if it goes to US... Isn't Tfn huge in canada... I think it's insensitive treating Canada like nothing more than a postage address along the way to bigger things... This is ABSOLUTELY not sacasm...This is like telling me my space program is nothing untill I add a russian guy.
I also wouldn't be too happy if I was Tfn and my 20% partner issued 130 trillion preferred either ( but of course Sandy most likely did not act alone... this is obvious)
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Yolo, sorry its way late, so you may not see this...
Tfn a public trading company...?? I wish.!! Could tfn be trading somehow now on a canadian exchange?? Is there a canadian stock exchange..?? Is it owned by Labatts??
It would be so much better than Bkmp holding company....bkmp has too much bagage as far as some officers and dealings in the past...
yada yada, I know bkmp "owns" 20%, so someone will say that tfn is public... not true. Bkmp is the public masthead that encompasses the other interests, thus our investment indirectly to Tfn.
As far as your questions, who the hell knows...
But what I observe about gwgo, I've been in it since Africa mines.... is a holding company with a boatload of assumed "interests" in other mining companies that haven't brought dust to the surface and IMO never will. Their ie: Gwgo, money is made in new stock issues and manipulations.. all this posturing looks like one big convoluted reverse split. Spin offs can sometimes be as useless and regressive as a r/s to the small common shareholder.
Gwgo has stated last year of leaving the mining sector completely... My thought is the officers or Axtel wants to buy an interest in Buyin.net, since gwgo was one of the first sponsors to the site... as far as I could tell.
As I have said before, I have lots of free shares from divs and want to time it before the r/s so I can get at least my original cash back.
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OT:: to neal.. was that the whirlpool galaxy, and did you ccd that yourself........???
non OT::
Why do you people keep saying brokerages have to by the pfr'd.
Thats weird. Bkmp issued trillions of preferred, and the last time I looked, BKMP the company pays the dividends NOT a broker.... but Bkmp will never pay a dividend because they don't have to..... somewhere in the small print of a filing before or soon it will say "the company will pay no cash dividends as we the officers have deemed it more beneficial for the company to return profits back to the company..." or words to that effect.... meaning more in the officers pockets. Webpost was asking you all to wake up, no company is going to put themselves in a position to pay 10's of millions per Q to anybody. period.
This is just plain common sense and applies to any company or situation like this.
And I stick to my speculative theory that all will be r/s'd... who knows,, maybe next week... since I am guessing too.
And putting so much credence to a website that started this year,,, buyins.**** like it's the absolute truth and the only way to catch shorty, is dangerous to your money.
I just wish I had more cash, so I can buy more bkmp and flip the shit out of it. If Tfn succeeds in my country (US), thats what I would 'invest' in, not a shell/holding co like bkmp.
Seren, look for a link to your trade history, then choose dividends within a month time limit.. thats one place scottrade shows my correct amounts...
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that was an example, I would have no way of knowing pps. On average pps drops in over 75% of penny stocks after r/s.
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seren... go to your account portfolio tab then positions within your brokerage site and you should find more info,,,
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Actually, this is the only time I made some sense of webprods... a classic reverse split always takes money away from the small shareholder... you have 100,000,000 ... r/s 1 for 10,000 and you now have 10,000 shares at .0004 = $4.00 ... 100 mill @.0004 = $40,000. see................
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LINK" dividend" .................
Harry, that the same ring from another stock...??
here's a nice dividend info link...
---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Share_dividend