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There goes that always wrong, bad advice stock tips again. Now this scam has gone so low as to solicit $100 trades. What a joke.
The fact is that each person can take what ever they want to out of any financial. And thats fine, everyones right. I like giving credit when credit is due, which is what I did. Can't say the BB is always right, noone is, but he does have a pretty good understanding and ability to explain and most of the time, BB is pretty accurate and does it without any hype or alternative motive.
But, pinkys trade mostly on hype or momo and 99.999% of them never are anything for any "long investing". Now BNPD has had couple of good trades, haven't minded a bit. Will they have some more, maybe, just have to wait and see.
I'm not sure all the debate though is helping and I don't see all of the attempts for momo succeeding that well right now. Will BNPD be a "real" company and be the .001%? The odds are against that. But "real" companies don't for the most part go pink, but do involve all the "buycharts", "must be shorting" "trying to get the cheapies", the "dilution isn't that bad" "this is a real company" chit chat.
We'll see what happens. I don't think this one financial that there is so much hoopla about will make or break BNPD. But as always, I suggest caution to anyone going on strictly emotion or following the hype. Too many times when there is the most hype (or "chit chat"), the selling is at it's worse either by the company (directly or indirectly), or selling by the ones who are trying to promote it the worst, or just plain retail tired of it and going elsewhere with the money.
Good luck to all with this "oil play".
It's good too have someone like BB that can have the knowledge and ability to correctly explain BNPD filings even though it's sometimes hilarious that there will always be someone who will never learn to read or understand the concepts.
But most will use BigBake's explanations and proof, so it's good to appreciate the time BB takes to do it and ones who already understand, it's just confirmation. Of course BNPD is a typical pink, and have the typical fools and foolish hype that really has nothing to do with any actual filings or numbers.
Dilution is always the way of finance for the color pink, and it's going to be interesting how much more is going to happen for the amount that is done is always one of the main factors. Why there will always be some attempt to minimize what BNPD does.
Remember in the pinky world, "dilution is a good thing" and "they really aren't doing very much". Sarcasm there of course, but one always sees some sort of form of those statements and there will be always ones who will try to state them emphatically and try to explain them to be true.
Life is such in the BNPD pinky world. All the debate is about 17% down on the pps today.
Whatever. Again good luck and make up whatever numbers pleases one.
With BNPD, I see more evidence of hype than disgruntled shareholders. Hype happens even more in pennyland, and BNPD is right along with that.
Of course there will be realist and ones who actually look at numbers that will be classified as "disgruntled" by the "hype", but that's to be expected.
Yes they do, we can go on all day I guess, but good luck with the hype. Don't want to do silly arguments or debate. Has nothing to do with any "house falling down" or staying up. Numbers are just numbers and this is just another pinky. I don't suggest anyone to be getting emotional about it. Emotions are not good accounting.
I haven't seen too much evidence of disgruntled shareholders. Some trying to make more out of it than what a starting company with no cash, no assets, and having to dilute to finance operations is, but it just a pinky, and the hype is always common in pennyland.
Dilution is just the way it goes, can't really put too much spin on it other than just make up silly arguments and maybe make believe that there is less dilution than what it is. Like I stated before no big deal, it is what it is.
Sorry, yes there is and BigBake is totally correct. I can't help it if numbers add up, just the way it is. No big deal.
Thanks again to BigBake for the dilegence and input.
Great job again BB. I'm sure most can appreciate the diligence, patience, and accuracy of your statements that are clearly backed up by the references to the companies own numbers and dates involved. Nice to have it all laid out though and explained with links and data to back it up.
It's just the way these pinks work, some worse than others, BNPD is no different. When there is no cash, no assets, and financing is needed, the result is in dilution of shares and mostly it is never an "only minimal amount" type statement.
But again nice to have it all added up the way you have correctly done. Good job.
Nice summaries BB! It's quite amazing the low life promotion trying to sluff off the facts about this POS ticker by attempting to continue to "blame" others or some "conspiracy" that supposedly taken place some time ago in order for desperate attempts to support more debt dumping.
Goes beyond any common sense to even believe in anything but what is so apparent and matter of fact about this toxic shell and failed company of in reality more than 6 months.
It just goes to show that's about all any promotion has anymore is to make up stories of "blame" and "conspiracies" since there is nothing about this ticker BEHL that can be pumped and trying to take attention away from the current negative facts is about all that any BS low life promoter or promotional site can do. I believe knowing full well that it just scamming on the gullible money out there and not caring about any morality involved. Just dirty greed and skull duggery (as in some foul, scandolous, triflin and decietful sh!!).
In reality, the subject should be "now" and critical questions should be addressed. The given is that now it is just a "shell" and just a ticker that needs to be cleaned of debt. No product, no business, no nothing other than four letters representing a possible ticker to slide in some other pinky POS share selling racket by some supposed product or service.
Facts are given that the share structure is horrendous with its 15 BILLION A/S and a NO BID status that can't even seem to clean it's debt in order to sell to any "new business".
If by chance some BS promoter and/or promotion finds even half enough suckers to buy into the BS, it then has to finance with the maxed out A/S and deal with a R/S.
That's even a big if, IF they can somehow get enough shares sold to get close to a "clean shell" ticker and IF they can beat the criminal nature of the whole deal and stay away from regulating authorities long enough to pad some pockets of the shell owners and do some more "financing".
Common sense and just factual numbers doesn't allow for anything positive to investing or trading in this ticker at this point, let alone behlieving in some hope for it. Surely anger toward all the ones who have been saying the reality for some time now and projecting everything that has come to pass is not going to make profit, it's just a loss for any of the ones who have continued to behlieve in the BS.
Quite the wrong assumption to think that many of do not know what is going on. Quite the contrary of course proven by the history and details given. Plenty of facts that BEHL is just the POS dirty shell with dirty people promoting and bs about it. Plenty of facts have proven that Pawson is still involved and totally waste of time to continue giving the same or more facts to ones who want to be part of the dirty promotion of BEHL.
Plenty of facts and real DD has been done and not made assumptions and not believed in the promotional farces and the ones who continue to deny all the facts, pretending and trying to elude from all the facts that much but not all has been continuously given on this board. Pretend that ones who have stated things that have been right with what they have stated while the promotion and ones who continue to make bad decisions with this toxic shell have been wrong.
Only to play the blame game card, continue to push the bs, and try to take attention away from the negative nature of this ticker and the ones behind it. Just pretend and continue the gibberish and hope not too many notice it. That will work, you bet. A little too late for that, too many have noticed already.
The fire may be just going to get a little hotter and investigations are continuing on any and all criminal behavior by the ones who are involved promoting and behind any BEHL scam. Always new information which always just confirms the old information, but liberties aren't always given to divulge certain data. That "time table" thing always can go many ways and has more than one entity involved.
Question really is, which will happen first; 15 BILLION MAXED OUT share structure, R/S, or legal consequences upon the ticker and any criminals behind it?
Funny things in the sub penny world of NO BID, no business, no product, phony names, and nothing but desperate attempts by the ones who are trying to dump it.
BEHL ticker dark for 6 months, the business up in flames, Pawson and Fisher still needing to debt dump some more, and nothing good in the horizon for any shareholders. There really should be a movie.
The BNPD with BEHL scam was just that, a scam. It originally started as a supposed company that was going to buy millions of dollars worth of product from BEHL which just turned out to be a total lie.
Then it was supposed to produce "free shares" that never turned out any filing or any attempted filing for a new company that had any BOD or any officers at all, fact. The only thing filed was the previous shell owners of BNPD taking themselves off the SOS and it was left as just a shell which eventually and seemingly bought by someone else with facts pertaining that Pawson and Fisher were unable to come up with the money to buy it.
Now just low life promotion and more lies try to convince any new sheep to buy in the NO BID status for to give money to Pawson, Fisher, and promoters by stating that some BOD were at fault when no officers were ever there as given by FACT of the SOS of Nevada for BNPD.
Scamming has been the history of the owners of this dirty shell with not one PR or even promoters bs turning out to be valid. Many on this board have done their DD knowing and finding out the unethical and criminal facts of the so called company (defunct for about 6 months). This included going out of business with being evicted from the premises, not paying the employees what was due, and one big heap of debt, never to get any valid product or business going. Shareholders money being spent on about everything else but the company.
All there is to look forward to if one keeps their shares that they have or buy into the baloney that is tried to be portrayed by the promoters of the stock just trying to sell the retail on any idea of any "new BEHL" will be just looking forward to a MAXED OUT A/S of 15 BILLION and a R/S. Meaning just more losses even though the stock is pretty worthless now if at times there can even be a bid.
The ones who do know and have been stating the NO BID, company going out of business (both way before it happened), and that the supposed "free shares" were never going to happen (such as myself and others) have been nothing but right 100%. On the other hand promotional individuals that have continued to try to fool people that there is some valid company and anything but a scam, blame everybody and everything else (including blaming shorts on a NO BID stock and supposed faults of unpaid people) for the demise of BEHL have continuously been wrong 100% as BEHL has plummeted down on any investment value.
The reason that many of us on this board have been right and made correct and accurate projections have only gone on real facts instead of some promotional bs that states phony blame and bs of some "new BEHL" in the works.
The shell is still debt dumping whenever it can get a bid in order to try to clean the shell for some worth or possibility of any new business and to line the pockets of people that have utter disregard for good business or any shareholders. Then the 15 BILLION A/S will be maxed out and only negative consequences for any new or old shareholders will have to occur. FACTS of the pinky market and just the way it works.
But first BEHL is having a hard time to finish the DEPT DUMPING and needs to try to continue to "rumor" some concept of positivity in the future and try to keep ahead of the legal consequences that some are projecting about to happen. But for the most part, not many are believing BEHL has any positive future, and rightly so, its just to obvious and just too many facts out there to go on that this company, it's shell owners and promoters are nothing to be giving one's money to.
6 months dark, maxed out A/S, dubious promotional, untruthful, and very untrustful individuals, years of PR's that have never come true, a R/S and legal investigations going on about the company, and dirty shell owners and promoters leave this ticker a very undesirable stock to own. What little worth someone has will be worth less some time in the future.
Alexandria, Virginia | Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:37pm EDT
Alexandria, Virginia (Reuters) - Two former senior Taylor, Bean & Whitaker Mortgage Corp executives were sentenced on Friday to several years in prison for their roles in a multi-billion dollar fraud that took down the big lender.
The fraud ran more than seven years until August 2009 when TBW collapsed after the U.S. housing market imploded, taking Colonial BancGroup Inc's Colonial Bank with it and putting hundreds of people at the firm out of work.
The Obama administration elicited guilty pleas from six senior executives. TBW's former chairman, Lee Farkas, was convicted in April on 14 counts of bank, securities and wire fraud as well as conspiracy.
It is one of the few cases in which prosecutors have been able to penetrate the executive suites of a major firm in the wake of the 2008 global financial crisis. Most prosecutions have involved lower-level employees or much smaller firms.
U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema sentenced TBW's former president Raymond Bowman to 30 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to two counts -- conspiracy to commit bank, securities and wire fraud and making false statements.
Prosecutors asked that he be imprisoned for five years, half the possible sentence because he cooperated with authorities. They said Bowman helped TBW steal hundreds of millions of dollars, and that he knew that the scheme at the firm was unethical at the very least and likely illegal.
Brinkema sentenced Desiree Brown, the company's former treasurer, to six years in prison after she pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit wire, securities and bank fraud.
Prosecutors wanted eight years, a higher sentence because she administered the day-to-day activities of the fraud on behalf of Farkas and TBW, according to court filings.
Brown had no formal financial training and Farkas had picked her for the position "because he could control her," the government's sentencing memorandum filed with the court said. TBW did some $20 billion in mortgage sales annually.
Farkas is due to be sentenced on June 27.
One of the federal prosecutors said the TBW investigation was ongoing.
The cases are: USA v. Bowman, No. 11-cr-118 and USA v. Brown, No. 11-cr-84 in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.
(Editing by Robert MacMillan)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/10/us-mortgage-fraud-idUSTRE7594KC20110610
Pawson's old buddy, Mr Green was sending out emails again about CBYI. That's pretty much a dead ringer warning sign for nothing good. About the only true thing with Pete Greens "alerts" is his disclaimer statement:
Any chance of getting in on this CC. I wasn't paying attention to the subject until now. But I definitely want to record and will, due to that it will be in my legal right to do so.
There must be some BS that going to stated that will be worrisome to the company if gone back on and brought back up. Quite interesting. Planned BS, who would of thought. LOL.
For sure. All that digging has made a hole that someone just can't get out of. It's turned into plain silliness. LOL
Many case laws are older than that and are very relevant, to say some case law is not relevant or valid just because of age doesn't hold any water, due to the fact that it is quite common to use past cases that are even a lot older than just 8 years.
Pretty common, don't even have to have any law degree for that knowledge.
Links, data, and FACTS and the lack of any proof on your view has concluded the subject -- landslide victory.
It's the posters right to do what they want. It doesn't have anything to do with the company, so quite irrelevant. Goes to show what little this company has to offer when the subject has to be about other posters reasons for what kind of account they have.
Doesn't seem like the company has anything to offer or any reasons to even talk to IR. They of course won't say anything bad and just try to promote the stock and pinky CEO's and IR's BS all the time.
Great, we have a company with no assets, no cash, trying to promote a LOI and dubious promotional tactics are occuring. Great first start for a pinky, really makes one really trust the company or anything the CEO or IR might have to say.
Your own words said today might be good here. ROFL
Let me repost this without the personal attacks. Nothing wrong with a little honor in debate and give some issue for later (tomorrow, whatever) for whoever wants to. Due to there is definitely some things and real DD missing and some error in some of the statements and response to things that weren't or were said. But I'll let it be the last word for now, getting late.
Thats all nice. I'm not disagreeing with you that "right now" it won't exceed the 2.5 Billion. Well not without serious consequences anyway. I'm only talking about the future and one has to look at it. That after all is what "investing" is all about.
Thinking they aren't going to do anything with those convertible preferred and they are only there to look pretty, well thats one's choice.
These pinks, including BNPD, can and do increase the A/S commons and can and do convert preferred at very nice conversion rates. No problem with the majority of BOD. Nothing to do with the state other than filing with them. It just happens. Way too many examples around the pinks to go on, I don't take BNPD to be any different as of yet until they prove they are different. Always a small chance they can become a real company.
If one is just trading this thing, it's all a mute point (other than look out below on any A/S increase), but if one is looking at this company for "the one", then it is of issue. Of course there is more current immediate issues to contend with anyway, like no cash, no assets, and debt with nothing but shares to work with. But one never really knows how these things can play out.
Promotions happen in all shapes and sizes, they happen without even the company involved some times. Many times the company is involved, they might not say it. What BNPD is involved with, can't be sure, but there are BNPD "promotions" going on.
Up to anyone to think the way they want.
Sure A/S has nothing to do with it. LOL Good luck with that thought and erroneous notions. Good way to loose to the promoters of BNPD. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain". Canceling shares, sure thing, ROFL now.
To many "$" signs are one definite red flag for BNPD. Usually when the promotions are at full force, so is the selling in this business.
A/S increases of common are done with a very cheap filing and are done at a moments notice without any notification to the shareholders. At that time they can then have multiple different conversion rates. It's curious though that such a large number is there and I don't believe they are there for only voting purposes.
If, when, how much, and why are all subject for future questioning. Like has been noted, beginning with no cash, no assets, and some debt. Something got to give or take depending on what side somebody is. A share owner or shell owner.
Not wearing a blindfold is one key element to any of these pinks, including BNPD. It's never known until way after the fact the degree of dilution or exactly when it will happen, but as always, it will happen and is more than likely happening even now or has happened to some degree. Thats just the life of pinks.
Now if will "run" or not, will have to be seen. Might, might not, and one suggestion is that one should always take some profits along the way if possible and realize that BNPD is no different when it comes to promotional tactics and it's traders.
Irrational exuberance can kill ones finances, so can marrying it and not paying attention to things that many want to ignore and think mean nothing or want others to think certain facts about BNPD mean nothing. If it's being promoted that something derogatory or red flags are nothing to worry about, it probably is something to worry about.
But this company or shell is new, so who knows where it can go in pps or volume. A shell meaning no assets and no cash and only shares to sell or buy with or give to PR's and promotional tactics.
Good for trading maybe, "investing" is a pretty loose term. For every up in pps, there will be a down, not always the other way around. My belief or opinion is just always caution to be used, don't go "all in" and don't hold when the fork has been used, back away for another day.
Nothing wrong with some "bones in the game", as long as it's known or payed attention to what the "game" is. It's up to the company to come up with more than LOI's and "forward looking statements". More financials, share structure data, and some real beef. It's up to any shareholders or traders to be critical of it. It's a pink and 99.99% don't do anything but get around the message boards.
Good luck to all.
Along with them being in the Ibox for some time now, link and copy of some of it with no assets and a 20 BILLION Authorized Convertible Preferred shares along with other share structure and debt data.
But no assets and no cash listed. Of course it doesn't list the CEO's personal property that doesn't belong to the company or shareholders. For the LOI's, speculation, and "future looking statements" one has to look for in the PR's and message board promotions.
"It takes a couple of days for shares to be issued and deposited. It is then up to the share owner to when and where they will sell."
Mmmm, seems like some dumping been going on today. I wonder where that came from.
A little up and down on the chart maybe, but expect there might be some more dumping to come.
Probably some going for that 5th digit also and selling to those stragglers, and minus fees, it's really getting down to dirt. Never going to pay off all the debt that way. Of course some debt is probably going to cut its losses, maybe deal, and just get what it can get. When a POS gets down this far, it really doesn't matter the specifics, its just a low number (except for the losses) no matter how one looks at it.
I don't know about any "doomsday". Dilution can happen anytime, it can trickle in a controlled manner, it can come in chunks and happen in all different sizes. It happens usually always without telling any shareholders until after the fact.
LOI's are only positive to a certain number of retail. In my opinion, they don't have the same force as once did and too many traders or investors know now that the biggest percentages of LOI's for pinks never come to pass and are only used for PR fodder. Hence the lack of pps force that has been happening (or not happening depending on how one looks at it).
But this is a pink and they will "finance" or dilute, how much and how hard or when is anyones guess. But that a pretty large Authorized Convertible Share number. Why one has to look at.
How it effects the pps or how many will believe in some "company" (BNPD) or how much money those believers have to put into the stock will have to be seen.
Not too much so far.
Sugar daddy CEO. Thats a good one. Daddy Warbucks for all the BNPD orphans. LOL I still say the 20 BILLION Authorized Convertible Shares aren't there for no reason. There is a reason that they are there and if anyone believes that they aren't going to use them, I have some swamp land for sale.
Dark toxic shells that have gone out of business trying to debt dump before a R/S or delisting always have thousands of bagholders that have lost all value in their holdings just like BEHL.
MM's needing to cover is about as classic as the LOI. Good luck.
Maybe just too classic. LOL Poof, and a couple of popcorn kernels went. Just not even the same as time gone by. A wisp of smoke and it is gone. Jeez, no game at all. The "financing" isn't going to be very nice at all if this is all they have.
First the "trash" has to be cleaned up as is this toxic shell has to be debt dumped and cleaned before another business can even start to work with it. The liquidity has not been good enough yet to do that, more shares to be dumped. When there is NO BID, that means no matter what is asked, it is WORTHLESS due to nobody is offering anything for it, or the very most, not much. A few hundred dollars a day or even a few thousand dollars a day will not do anything and will take forever to "clean the trash" or have any real worth.
Again the people that one speaks of have now ran away from BEHL after discovering what DF and Pawson were up too. No third party confirmation of any final product or sell-ability of the system. Sell-ability meaning more than garbage in the desert or recycled plastic and regular profit being made from the system or what it was supposed to make.
YEARS of PRs with NOTHING accomplished. NOTHING meaning WORTHLESS and it doesn't matter what the next business is going to be with this toxic dark shell of 5 months or so. It still has to deal with the 15 BILLION maxed out share structure and will have to have number one, clean trash (which its not yet due to lack of liquidity), and number two a R/S or other negative consequences to any current shareholders for future "financing" and any future profitability for the shell owners.
Make some Tshirts, sell garbage, mining claims, doesn't matter, it still just a toxic shell that has to go through the "rinse and repeat" process. But no business, no product, nothing as of yet -- doesn't even conform to a public company criteria.
Problem is all the people that once tried to associate with BEHL and DF quickly discovered what a scam him and his system was and left or distanced them from DF, Pawson, and the system. Nobody that was standing by or speaking for that one mentioned is standing by BEHL anymore. Only thing left is BEHL trying to copy and paste pictures and things from other companies on their financial and through the promoter and who don't have anything to do with BEHL.
Never any product came out as they claimed, or cost factor, and no third party confirmation of anything they claimed that BEHL was doing. Just years of phony PR's that never came about.
Everything just turned into videos of junk or plastic parts needing to be hauled away or recycled somewhere else. Or pictures of parts in the sand and weeds with a bunch of dead animals around presumably dying from drinking the so called product from the system.
Stock has just gone to NO BID or .0001 for the most part, with no ability to really sell anything, let alone to try to trade the thing. Gone to no business, no product, nothing but a toxic shell headed to a R/S and stuck trying to debt dump with a 15 BILLION A/S toxic share structure.
BEHL being a FAILURE in every sense of the word.
What is up with people, there is current info there. Has been for days. Shows on my computer. It's a copy and paste from the website about Tom Gouger and copy and paste from the most recent filing (I can't help it if they have no assets listed on their filing).
Along with link to that most recent filings and link to the State of Nevada for the company. The PR's can be gotten anywhere along with them being plastered over and over on this board.
Will work on it as time goes by, the Ibox is not the only place for true DD, nor is a message board anyway. Company is new, so is the Ibox.
I afraid there is a error in thinking which way the fire is blowing to. In other words the fire is going towards Pawson, promoter and promotional site and just might be that the cooperation is coming from the people you speak of. Old employees that weren't getting paid anything, not even a wage. The story line just wore out and no more money was there (spent by Phawson and Fisher gang on the high life, drugs, and demise) and so people left.
Pretty old stuff and ignorance to except the words of the promoter on the BS about who's really running the scam and who the third parties are, which is as BB stated, the real ones who the SEC go after the most.
This still is a dark shell with no business, no income, nothing but debt dumping and a phony management that can't even adhere to the simplest of basic public company criteria. All the silly "blaming game" can't change the .0001 or NO BID or the R/S of the toxic shell. Only fodder for the most ignorant of sheep and maybe some new BEHL suckers that are becoming harder and harder to find.