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from one or many disgruntled shareholders thats why he probably won't answer the door he knows some of us are looking for him.
Question for the board
Does anyone know the name of the hedge fund run by Vernon Hill former CEO of commerce bank?
Thanks Mav added it to my dossier on TS right next to the photos of him and all his buddies involved in this scam
You forgot #5 Guess when some bagholder common goes over the edge and does what everyone of us is actually thinking regarding our plan man CEO
Given his past loyalty to commons he will probably sell off anything that could be profitable to his friends and family while keeping all that is non-profitable for the commons to own while still paying himself for his horrific management of this company.
His arrogance will be his downfall
Hey Rocket BLLB sound like the twin sister of SWYV, both CEO's must have attended the same "how to alienate yourself from common shareholders school"
greedy, arrogant, underhanded, crooked, misleading, dilution happy, out for himself, I could go on and on Lucky ,but I won't drop anymore $ until he actually shows he is out for the best interest of the commons rather then just himself, family, friends and CD holders. The fact that he has not one dime of his money invested in this company shows he will not work for the commons as is his duty as CEO. There are those that will say "but he owns preferred's so he did invest" but we all know those shares he holds were paid for with us overpaying for his non profit making Wisebuys deal that saved him and his family $ while also paying them more then they ever hoped to make with that company.
His current salary ids a joke as he hasn't earned a dime of it and should be fired in fact he probably would if he didn't hold that ridiculus 80% he doesn't deserve.
What good is the idiotic investor relations link for e-mails if they never answer legitament shareholder questions.
He can't hide from the public forever.
Lucky
Playing PBCT to buy the citizens branches in the noirtheast off of RBC since RBC is in trouble and sold 60% ownership to the bristish Gov. PBCT has a huge warchest and would fill in their gaps with that purchase
Don'y feel bad I am restricted to 1 post a day because i was to hard on the CEO and his friends, constantly having my one post deleted for supposedly being TOS even though others have posted worst. Guess its the fact I hold a grudge against TS and the paid pumpers he had on his payroll.
Its hard to believe that if somebody walked in the house owned by those critizing my outright disgust in posts of TS that they would allow that person entering their house to walk away with their pocessions while just standing there watching. 80 % of the population would definitely attempt in some manner to stop it but I guess its diff on that board.
Anyway went back to buying and selling financials to build up the war chest again,
Curious if anyone has heard of any mass state banks that are in a distress situation and possibly a candidate for another tarp recieving bank to purchase them.
Good luck all
Lucky any way you or someone that is good crunching numbers can actually ballpark the amount made by CD holders over the last year and a half since we commons have lost 90% or better wondering how much they made.
Sorry I can not respond till tomorrow on any replies do to my current restrictions unless you can point me to a board which would allow me to respond.
Just sent another e-mail via the website to invester relations dang those scam defense words get harder and harder to decifer.
TJG are you not worried that TS may go for another R\S before the price takes off thus dropping your breakeven or profit point into the depths?
Myself I will sit and wait for him to either take what I have left or act like he should and put his money in harms way since he hasn't invested a dime in it from his pockets.
Either way as Lucky states he owes the longs big time and if he ever wants to regain the faith of those longs he needs to make good to them.
That's a fact and hunting season is open wonder if Hacketts has any sales on rifles going on.
Wrinkles that is a true statement when the information provided by the company is truthful and not misleading as is the case with this company. His methods are now questionable and his past dealings with the likes of YA, paid pumpers, missed CD's etc are also. How much has he lined his pockets with from dealing with YA? How much did he get for missing the legacy CD? We all know he has not $1 dollar of his money invested in this company in fact he overpaided and pocketed that while giving himself 80% ownership that grows with every dilution.
Sorry I will not be able to respond till tomorrow since I have used my 1 post allotment for this board today.
Ist off "Happy Thanksgiving to all"
2nd many have commented regarding the need the company had to satisfy CD's so they R\S'd and increased the AS. Why couldn't TS instead of R\Sing just increased the AS and convert some of his E's sell them and use that to pay off CD's since he owns all his shares without any output of cash from his pocket infact he obtained his shares plus an overpayment of cash for his share of wisebuys, a win win for him and a currently lose lose for commons.
All I know is I need .07\.08 to just break even while TS dilutes and keeps the price at .0001\.0002. In the last year he has not shown me anything that makes him stand out as a CEO only attributes to date that jump out regarding him are his ways of stealing from the commons to finance his lifestyle and that of his friends and we all know who they are.
Rumor is they will be giving away 1 large jar of Vasolene for every 1M shares we longs have to help the pain when TS rams us again. He better get some himself he will need it when he ends up in the Big House and realizes his arrogance and scamming won't fly there. He will make someone a very nice jail house wife especially if some of us longs filter some cash to the big boys in the house to give him a taste of his own medicine.
YA and TS joined at the hip, can u say kickbacks bet TS says it every day when he talks with the likes of YA. How much did KK's wife kick back to TS to miss the old CD. Can't convince me he wasn't joined at the hip with her for that deal. Hed hasn't lost a dime since we overpaid him and his family for Wisebuys, what does he have invested all clear profit every share he owns didn't pay a red cent for them plus he gets to pay himself one heck of a salary for his good work.
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Jim I had to waste my one post allowed to remind you to add to your comments that during the dumping TS paid certain people to pump.
Till tomorrow
good luck
Viva
To much GS coincidence connections throughout. Never trusted that group they play both sides of the fence and their greed is way beyond the norm. Though not as greedy as that other one we got taken on.
thats for sure I would be happy with one in a life time
Weird how they needed to institute the added anti-spaming methods for sending e-mails guess TS didn't like all the negative inquiries to his bilking ways. They still don't answer e-mails and I wonder how many shares it cost commons to pay for the coding involved on the web-site to initiate that system.
I don't for 1 minute believe Dede has no knowledge of the scamming her brother has pulled as she is enjoying the money she raked in from her family failing business which we overpaid by 6 times its worth.
Wish I knew someone at wells just to find out where the loan stands at this time.
Well every dog has their day we commons will have ours one way or another.
Come out of the closet TS and quit hiding like the little arrogant brat you are,
Odd News - On a roll: Golfer records 5 holes-in-one in a week News
On a roll: Golfer records 5 holes-in-one in a week
Thu Nov 6, 7:59 PM EST
KAPPA, Ill. — Central Illinois amateur golfer Curt Hocker is on a roll. Five rolls, to be exact. Just ask anyone at the El Paso Golf Club, where the 22-year-old has recorded five holes-in-one in the last week, including two on Saturday. In this year alone, Hocker has seven aces, five on par-4s, and two other double eagles.
"I don't know what to think," said Hocker, who works in the club's pro shop. "After each one I say it's over, and it keeps happening."
Friends and family, 15 of whom have witnessed Hocker's strokes of luck while playing with him, are equally mystified.
"It's incomprehensible this kind of luck could happen, but it does happen," said El Paso pro Steve Fulton. "There are other things in life that have been just as weird and eerie that have happened. What are the odds?"
Hocker said he's just glad that his club membership comes with "hole-in-one insurance."
That "insurance" means the club — and not Hocker — has to honor the golf tradition of buying everyone in the clubhouse a drink after an ace is made.
"I think the golf course is getting mad at me for all the drinks," Hocker said. "It's hard to talk about, but it's awesome to have it happen."
Kgeezy I would be interested in hearing what they had to say, Bet they will have no problem finding TS, hopefully they grab his passport before he skips like the CEO of ACMG, I still believe at this point in time it was TS's plan all along to make money for himself, family and dear friends at YA while scamming the common shareholders. Unfortunatly that was not my belief in the beginning so I fell for it hook line and sinker like others. I wonder if TS will show at Dede's party for winning her re-election campaign. I may just have to find out when and where and hang around outside the entrance as a photographer.
Can't believe Dede has know knowledge of her brothers scam deal since she did benifit from it when we over paid for Wisebuys which was costing her money.
Well used up my 1 post for this board early so enjoy the day all.
I believe he accomplished his true plan rape common shareholders while increasing his and family fortune at our expense. One deal like this sets him for life especially after unloading Wisebuys for a 6 fold profit to his pockets
Thought the picture on the the other board u posted looked more like the TS after shareholders find him LOL
Looks more like TS if we ever get ahold of him.
Jim:
I don't believe he cares, he made mucho $ selling Wisebuys to the shell plus collected his 250K, figure he is set for awhile on those two incomes anything else is gravey, plus who knows what YA kicked him for their profit making.
Bulletproof I can't PM and refuse to pay for a subscription until TS makes good on his claims, so I have a long wait but regarding your question in the PM to me see message 204640 for your answer on SWVC question
My Wag 11-07-08 2PM
My WAG is 11-11-08 at 11:11am
Kgeezy: My only hope is the more people TS pi$$es off the better the chance one of us will find the crooked CEO and bring his whereabouts public. He has been hiding for months and for good reason, when you steal from the commoners you will pay the piper. Letters to the local rags haven't even been publish so maybe he is using are hardearned $ to pay off their management to keep him out of the newspaper limelight. It is in my book the equivilent of insider trading what he did paying a pump artist here with shares so he could dump, curious what that pumper new from TS while he sprouted buy to all of us especially when he said he was buying. Liars are the reason this countries finances are what they are. TS will never come clean on his own his morals are the same as YA, KK and his "guess you would call her his wife" I don't and the rest of the TS BS'ers.
If you have been ripped off by TS and feel he still gas morals you are very clouded, he has not shown any morals to running a company and treating the commoners with respect so it shows how he was brought up by his parents. Evidently none of the family believes they are on par with the commoners they feel they deserve easy street living while supported by the scam that TS is running.
TS has pr'd more lies then truths with over inflated values benifiting the seller many times over without putting one bloody cent of his money or his families on the line.
Our day will come sooner then he thinks. Good luck to those hunting him for answers
Sorry unable to respond to anyone after this,
Agree with you on that point only in a diff order, CEO, YA and commons. Under the covers still believe there is some sort of colussion between CEO and YA to benifit themselves with the commons being thrown to the side. Why else did he buy a company\companies for 6X what they really are worth. Don't believe he will ever work for the commons as he feels he is better then us. Believe his plan all along was to dump money losing companies for a profit in his pocket otherwise why would he not hold a large sum of commons which would also be subject to his R\S we would get to list to a higher exchange.
Has anyone actually had any dialogue with our CEO of late?
What risk is there for our CEO currently none that I see if the company goes belly up sure he would lose on his preferreds to some degree but he already got his money back on the sale to the shell.
As others have said the more bad publicity we commons can bring attention to the better others will see the light and stay away.
your not alone in that boat
BBB am right there beside you on that statement no word from any of my e-mails via the website but they must have been getting flooded with disgruntled shareholder e-mail to institute the ever changing word match for e-mailing the company. Can't say I have run across that setup on any other legit company investor contact before. After going through all that they still don't respond or if and when they do they answer only 1 question of their chossing avoiding the big issue questions.
Well good luck here until tomorrow am out of posts
Holter it remains interesting to see which comes 1st TS turning this around and paying what he owes to the longs by longs I mean those who bought over a year ago on his pumps or street justice, I lean on street justice coming in before TS pays back the longs. In y opinion TS doesn't give a rats A$$ about the common shareholders and only cares about his own pockets and those of his crooked friends. He can R\S all he wants as I only want 100K from him in cash or blood, thats what I feel he owes me on my loss plus interest. He can afford to pay the leeches at YA 100 of times their investments minus kickbacks to him he can afford to by my hatred off rather then stumble into my presence one day.
He is still not showing his mug around in public, can't understand what he could be afraid of, what commoner share holder would be upset with his building of company values, aren;t we all showing positive gains LOL, Who will find him 1st that is the question and how much did that shareholder get taken for will determine the outcome of that meeting.
Lucky you forgot also which pumpers had possible inside insight into what was coming because they happen to be on TS's pump payroll.
Think we also need the names and addresses of those paid a$$holes for the secondary mob to get in touch with.
I don't think of it as revenge more like payback to the scum that stole from me
Eye for an Eye
Lets start the hunting party if you have addresses he is known to frequent or reside post them maybe then someone who has been ripped off by the thieves lives nearby will catch sight of them. He seems to stay well hidden lately not even going to his alma mata football games at home.
Anyone with connections to a writer at any of the local rags sent them an update more publicity that gets out on the scumbag the better chance others will not fall prey to him and his family's crooked dealings.
Hey KK if you read this be forwarned TS is tapping Kneepads on you