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I met a Pullitzer Prize Winning reporter for a very respected newspaper. He left journalism because he was tired of seeing stories run about people that virually ruined their lives and when the information in the article was determined to be incorrect the retraction was conviently burried somewhere deep inside the paper. SH
Matt, thanks. I still have one unanswered question hanging out there with regard to what CoB and directors are allowed to delete. I've been over this with Bob before and there are some grey areas. His rule was that potentially libelous posts, attacks on the company should remain standing ("it is not for us to determine what was considered libelous and should be left to a judge" paraphrased) This conversation was started when I deleted a post that called a company "a hoax". I'm trying to find out if that is still one of the rules for CoB's etc and if so, does that rule carry over to individuals within the company? If we allow such posts to remain are we open to a lawsuit as a director? If so I'm gonna have to step down. SH
JB, that is against the TOU. What other alias has Matt used here on IHUB? SH
Matt, my questions are in post # 8962. SH
Matt, it's 8955. Also could you address the issue as to what is allowable and what is not with regard to the company AND is Rich still considered to be the company. See my post to you here. (# ? one a the past few posts) SH
Matt, the post in question is #8955. SH
I just asked Matt to address this here on the board. Not sure if he's online. We'll just have to wait and see. SH
Matt, could you come on over to the SEVU thread to settle an issue? It is regarding IHUB policy as it relates to attacks, potentially libelous statements when dealing with posts directed at the company. Bob said they should remain intact. I think we have a grey area and am confused about it. We have a former CEO requesting that a post be corrected and I said I'd take it up with you. Appreciate some clarification. SH
Rich, we had a new administrater here on IHUB and he was not allowing posts to be deleted for what the directors would have deemed to be personal attacks, possible lebelous statements, etc if the post was about the company. He said that any of those posts should be left intact and be dealt with by the company via the courts. I tried to get some clarification from admin as to what constituted "the company" but I'm still a bit confused. I don't know that your position is as "just another poster" or if you come under IHUB Admin"s definition of "the company" It may be a moot point as I do not believe that the person that made this rule is still in IHUB Admin. I need to take this up with Matt. SH
<OT>Yes it did and thank you. So it's VERY BAD for existing shareholders. Shame. SH
Can someone post a link? Is the feeding frenzy about to begin? SH
FG or anyone, re bankruptcy.....is my understanding of this issue to be correct in that some companies file bankruptcy for the sake of restructuring and it is not necessarily a bad thing for either the company or potential investors? I know there are several different chapters that mean different things but that's ALL that I know about the subject. SH
Please delete this....duplicate post. NOT SPAMMING. Just an error. SH
It's a quandary. If I were a director here I'd probably let it stand. Off topic posts aren't routinely deleted on my thread just because they are off topic. The decision to delete "OT" posts is usually determined by whether or not the poster is making an "OT" post for the interjection of a little levity or if the poster is CLEARLY out to disrupt the thread. We usually like to see the "OT" prior to the post. I'll PM you about the camera. I'm really be interested in your opinion. SH
Matt, how were you able to communicate with him when your mouth was full of tools and your gums were injected with all of that novacaine?) Do you think he'd be interested in a cool video camera that shows people the inside of their mouths? I know of a company that manufactures this product for a price that is supposed to be a lot cheaper than others on the market. The technology is supposed to be superior with ease in installation :)))) SH
I mean that if you interpret InvestorsHub as a hub where many people with interests in stock talk go to discuss their interests then InvestorsHub would be grammatically correct. If you interpret InvestorsHub to mean a hub belonging to investors where they go to discuss then Investors'Hub to dicsuss then Investors'Hub would be grammatically correct. I do not mean that IHUB is owned by the posters. I mean that it is their place to go and chat. SH
Stock, if you are referring to the SEVU thread then I've got to diagree. Negative posts ARE NOT deleted as long as they fall within the TOU. I have recently started a new technique when dealing with a post that contains TOU violations. I first PM the poster with the post that is in violation and alert the poster to the problem areas. This way the poster has an opportunity to clean it up and resubmit it. I only do this when there is information of relevance to the thread. I don't waste my time if the entire post is nothing but trash, i.e. vulgarity etc. SH
This may have been answered already but either form InvestorsHub or Investors'Hub is correct. SH
Dan, with all of the scrutiny that this situation has been under over that past months, I seriously doubt that this law firm would do anything that would put its licenses under jeopardy. I can't imagine it. SH
FG, nice segway. Either one of those will work. Haven't caught nor seen any sharks last couple of times out. I hear they're there but frankly I'm relieved not to see them. My husband spends hours in the water wading. Once he had to fight off a four footer that after the fish on his stringer. Another time his buddy had a HUGE Jack taken off his stringer and he didn't even realise it until he pulled the stringer in. It makes me REALLY NERVOUS. AND he's got the audacity to try to bully ME into getting off the boat to fish. As I tell him forget about it, there's things in that water. It's bad enough he pushes the limit with the weather. I go fishing to release stress, not add to it. Not that I have much stress. Last time out in the bay we had a manatee come up right off the starboard bow. GOD I LOVE LIVING HERE!!!!!!
Can't wait to hear what you've got to say about the law suit. SH
FG, what information about the plaintiff is public? I'm not looking for personal stuff. I REALLY GET ANNOYED when people put out personal info about people on the net. What I'm looking for is what damages etc are being claimed. When did they buy/sell, how many shares, debentures or freely trading. I'm just curious. That reminds me of a Far Side cartoon. The picture was a bunch of dead cats sprawled all over a classroom. On the blackboard were written a whole bunch of equations. The caption said, "Curiosity killed the cats"
FG, is my understanding that the attorneys have to have at least one client in order to file a case correct? Would that client have to approach them or could they approach potential clients. I understand that you aren't an attorney and AM NOT ASKING YOU FOR LEGAL ADVICE, I'm just trying to get information. SH
Where I sit at this point, I will only benefit by holding. If the company has the funding to pay it's legal fees and can show REAL profits, I think the share price should go back up. If it can't hold on and goes bankrupt, I'll do as well holding and taking the write-off as I would selling now. I'm not sure if I'm being clear. What I'm trying to say is that if the share price goes down more or the company goes under, I couldn't do any worse by holding. If I do sell, then I am eliminating ANY chance of recovering. So I guess I should be really happy tonight for as I see it, I'm in a win-win situation. LOL. SH
P.S. I can't wait to see what they do with THIS post on "the other board. Goin' fishin on the marrow. Maybe I'll catch something fun. BIG SNOOK....BIG RED....ANYTHING other than those slimey catfish.
Dan, I'm glad to hear that. Are you gonna accept the delivery? AND are they gonna still throw in the cable for free? SH
Seems like who initiated the suit should be public information. Those that know their way around the web better than I should probably be able to dig that info up. I'm not sure that it really matters although I'm curious. I'm one of thelocals who got into the action by hearing about it from a friend. I have no grounds to sign up to be included. If I had bought in based on the PR's I certainly would consider it. I'd really like to know if the PR's were intentionally misleading or if they were really just the result of some really poor management. It would make losing my money more tolerable to know someone just screwed up (big time). I guess it's all gonna be sorted out. How long do you think it will take for this thing to go before a judge? If the damages are proven and a judgement is made how many millions do you think it will amount to? Is it possible that by the time it gets heard SEVU can have their revenue in shape in order to withstand a negative outcome or are we just gonna go bankrupt? I realise I'm asking you to speculate but I'll grasp at any straw I can right now. All are invited to participate. Anybody? SH
I hope the company can do some damage control or this thing's gonna get REALLY ugly. I haven't even gotten my legal opinion yet so by the time I do....well you know the picture. Even if the outcome would be favorable for SEVU the money that it's gonna take to fight this is going to be considerable. I'm not sure that it's appropriate for SEVU to comments on this but a perhaps their attorneys can. SH
Thanks ERUE. OK so my questions about this are:
They say that they have filed on behalf of their clients. Do(es) the name(s) of their clients have to be disclosed?
They go on to solicit clients in their statement that have invested in SEVU during that time period so that they can be "lead plaintiff" It's a little unclear to me. At first it sounds as if they already have clients so why the need for a lead client? OR would the lead client be the person that feels that they have been damaged the most? Anybody? SH
Just read on "the other board" that a class action has been filed against SeaView because of misleading PR's. Nugget, if you're around would you post it here? Just when I thought the news couldn't have gotten any worse. I have some questions about the wording on the complaint. I'll ask them once it has been posted here. I really want to use an expletive but I'll restrain myself. SH
OOPS, that should have said, "quit your whining" not whuning. Too late to edit. I guess I could delete it and resubmit it but I'm feeling a little lazy. SH
<OT> For anyone that is interested....the CoB and directors do not have the autority to ban posters here. Nor do they have authority to delete posts. They can temporarily remove a post until admin has time to review it. At that time, ADMIN makes the determination as to whether it should be restored or not. Some days, such as today, they have more posts to review than others:)
IF admin determines that a poster is intentionally out to disrupt the free flow of information, on either side of the issue, admin will suspend and or ban the poster depending on the seriousness of the infraction. Anyone that has questions or issues about these rules should take it up with admin either via the PM function or on the Q&A Board about IHub with Bob as the CoB. That board can be found on the Home page under lounge and under the sub category of The Sherriff's Office. SH
He's the CoB and MY Captain. And besides he didn't delete it he just commented that it would be better posted on another thread. So PLEASE, quit your whuning. I'm sick of it. Thank you very much. SH
How is John Dingell related to SEVU ? SH
Unbelievable is too kind, Dan. After all your supportive comments I can't BELIEVE you were treated this way. SH
AND ERUE, one more thing. If I had sold when my restrictions had come off, I would only have lost the commission and the legal opinion fees. Otherwise, I would have broken even. SH
If I only knew then what I know now. I bought the restricted shares at a time that they were freely trading on the open market for the same price per share. If I had bought on the open market at that price I'd still be doing the happy dance. As of now, I'm over it. I'm riding it out and that's that. I posted over on "the other board" that I bought this stock long before I had ever heard of FG.....BUT...... to paraphrase his disclaimer..... we NEVER INVESTED MORE THAN WE COULD AFFORD TO LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SH
My restrictions came off on May 8'th. SH
Dan, who did you talk to at SEVU??? I'm guessing that they're trying to make every penney count (no pun intended) and hence the reason for the COD. Did you talk to anyone that has had a past business relationship with you or just a sales rep that is just trying to do his/her job?? I suspect that if you had talked to Rich he might have made an exception to this COD thing. If not, than it might be a sign that they are trying to book every possible sale for the next Q. Let us know what you find out. For the record.... I had the opportunity to dunp my shares over a week ago but I've decided to ride this one out. SH
Seems they've kissed and made up though. Foreman has turned out to a pretty cool guy. Ali is da man. SH
My son ordered one of those Billy Bass gag gifts for my husband . They were backordered by MONTHS. When they finally got production caught up they contacted us by mail and asked us if we still wanted it. They provided us with a post card that we checked off yes or no. Of course they probably had many thousands so it was probably easier for them to handle it that way rather than contact by phone. SH
Did the same thing happen around 4:45? I never nototiced it before but does a deleted post remain on the last post @ ****? I know it doesn't show up in the message list. Not sure if this message is clear. Both Badbob and exhib are showing "Last posts @ ..." but when you go to the message list they are not there. If deleted would they show up anyway in the last post @...? SH