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Sanddancer,,,I believe you are wrong, the shareholders' will have a say, just like what's happening with the recent Molex and SourceFire!!
IMHO, If any offer is under 1 billion would be a crying shame and simply a sell out!
They diluted and issued themselves shares and selling when a company like SourceFire with ONLY 5 MILLION in net revenue, sold for $ 2.7 billion!! Come on, be real.
Today was just the beginning of something that maybe incredible.
But, $ 400 million, would be ridiculous.
I don't believe......they'll be paid that much!! IMHO
I don't they'll be paid 10%.
I only hope so. The anticipation is wearing me out....,,,,,Hiring the law firm that was involved with the Microsoft and Skype is way too close to home! Someone had the guys phone number. The connection is too much of a coincidence, IMHO !!!!
If this technology is what they say it is and the numbers add up the way we're are guessing, it can be absolutely scary what this can sell for!! Just based on what Sourcefire and a few others recently sold for. We're talking about infringement (s) on patents that effect every single Voip call worldwide!!! WOW!!!
Yes, tremendous news! This is way over due, but why is this just happening now? This leads me believe we're only in the first quarter of negotiations. Still feel it'll be April/May before an offer is excepted or closed. IMHO
Does anyone have an idea on the length of time from an acceptance of an offer and the actual closing date..... "To have the cash in my brokerage account"?
Smcluke, within weeks.
Twitter would be shaking in their pants, if they ever got a call from VPLM's patent attorneys!! IMHO
Can you imagine, on the eve of going public, if they get hit with a patent infringement suit?.....This position for VPLM, is way too good to be true. There has got to be something we're missing.
Yes, very nice...but,
still need to put numbers (revenue) on these patents!!!
Think again, it happens often. Didn't a company (can't think of the name) just reject a $ 10 Billion offer from Amgen?
JC RI, I got it from that guy in investors relations. the article I believe is a few years old. lol It's all I needed to hear or read!
I mean where can you buy a stock that has a patent that was two years ahead of a similar patent Microsoft applied for? This was the key to my initial purchase. A no brainer, from there on out.
Also, Microsoft paid $ 8.4 Billion for Skype AND the Lawful Intercept technology goes hand in hand with this. There is really nothing else to say. A NO-FREAKING BRAINER!!!! IMHO
And you know what JC RI, the strangest thing is, not everyone seems to "get it" Crazy. LOL
Clueless, your probably right. But, this is a good start. Now, they need to start putting a pencil to every patent and educate the investment community, HOW these patent (s) can generate REVENUE!!
Maybe hired an independent consultant that can appraise each patent and project what this revenue and value can be. But, I would only imagine they have already done that, if they're already in talks with suitors.
AND if any offer has been turned down, why in the world wouldn't they announce that? Pure stupidity, unless the suitor (s) requested that.
Get the ball rolling!
JC RI...You certainly do not know what your talking about. I bought at $ .008 AND THERE WAS AN ARTICLE about being two years ahead of Microsofts pending patent.....I loaded up, after I had traded it, and am holding. Who is their right mind would be selling?
So, you maybe late coming to the party but, the smart ones weren't.
No kidding, isn't that special?
nyt well, the ones that aren't convinced are the ones that will not reap the benefits. The ones that have the foresight to understand the tremendous potential, will be the ones that possibly will make a ton of money.
But, I wouldn't be too concerned with the short-term PPS as we may one day wake up and see about a buy-out.
Yeah, we already discussed this being partially the reason for the low PPS.
I don't see any correlation between the two at all. They're trying to sell the company and in negotiations now. Just a lot of wasted energy, that's all.
Just curious, seems like a lot of wasted energy worry about these trades. What difference does it all really make, anyway?
At this point, the PPS isn't the concern.
Yeah, well I don't see any price over $ .22.
Share structure about 1/4 of VPLM's. So, if it ever did go that high, then it would put VPLM at $6.00 or so. But, I don't believe we're comparing apples to apples.
arrvea.....your not just going to sell a billion dollar company over night.....it takes a lot of time. I would love to really find out the closing lead-time?, thou. 90 days? Would be my likely guess. But, who really knows. November acceptance, possible? Do the math....I'd really like to wake up one day (or hear Jim Cramer talk about it, on Mad Money.) and then hear "shareholders of record" and then see the trading halted. Not sure how it transpires.
drbnine.....yeah, but what was their share structure? I'd be willing to bet, it wasn't 901 million. That's for sure.
I am sure a lot of potential buyers have been doing their DD....IMHO, if an offer was accepted within the next month or so, we're looking at April-May '14, until we all enjoy the benefits...
This is a process that is going to take a lot longer than expected. By the time any deal is done and closes, AND any gains are realized, we're looking at April-May '14. IMHO.
Great point Stef07....most people just don't understand....if it were easy to become a millionaire, everyone would...This current price point is an incredible opportunity to accumulate additional shares, if you already haven't...
I mean where in the world can you purchase shares in a company that now have four patents that are currently being used by the biggest telecom companies in the WORLD???? Which is in the process of being acquired? Where?
As I have stated a number of time, "it's the too good to be true, factor". Most people you may talk to about this stock, just don't believe it. They don't buy. And I just can't wait for the final outcome, to see the look on their faces. Can't wait.
drbnine.....You just made the best investment of your life.....most people just don't "get it".....watch, wait and see....you'll be happy you did.
p.s....great name....
Can you post that link, please?
I think it can, what?
Yes, great time for acquisitions, market high and interest rates are low.
An October sale would be a Feb/March closing. This won't happen over night.
Spec....well, you and I and the others may agree and hope this is true, BUT, the average person that doesn't have the vision we do, doesn't agree. They're feeling it's too good to be true and or, why hasn't the pps moved?
Just saying!
Well, my point was...
"it's hard to compare" They have revenue, VPLM doesn't!!
My point now is, it's all speculation on what someone will acquire Voip-Pal.com for.
Except a few (including me) REALLY BELIEVE this is a tremendous opportunity. If others did, the volume and PPS would be rising daily. BUT, it's not!! It's the "too good, to be true" factor.
For example, a friend said to me today, "the other players would just develop their own patents, and ways of doing the RBR, etc.
Henery8th, well they had over 800 million in revenue, I believe.
Hard to compare.
I'm exhausted!!!!!!!!!!! BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
norpikefiser....IMAGINE THAT....OUT OF BUSINESS, I GUESS. IMHO
No company would NOT RETURN phone calls, if they were still in business. IMHO.
nyt.....it's called DILUTION!!
They recently went from 586 million outstanding to now over 831 million..here's your answer.
Fargofern....that's very comforting but, what was their share structure?
IMHO, if management were concerned with the PPS, they'd be promoting and educating the investment community on how these patents would generate revenue.
Apparently, that's not a concern with them. For example, if any offer was in fact rejected, why in the world wouldn't they mention that. A lot of companies that are interested in selling their company, do. Why wouldn't they?
Dilution maybe the cause for the price falling. But, in the conference call, they stated they wouldn't. But, we all know how that works, now don't we? IMHO
How do you manipulate the PPS?
The volume is extremely low. The issue is that "Most do not believe this will be sold for billions!!! I believe it possibly can be sold for billions.
If it were that easy to make lots of money, MOST WOULD!!!
But, for those that believe, you need to have patients.
Although I am VERY excited about the potential of what this stock can produce. Like I have stated, there is the "too good to be true factor". For example, I got a friend excited about this stock and bought in at $.08. He's down 15-25%. And he has no interest in buying more. Why? Well, he like most aren't 100% convinced. Just like most of you and your friends! If you all were, the volume would be a lot more than it is and the price wouldn't be falling. Or, you maybe like me, all my funds are tied up.
But, it maybe best that the price has stabilized. Wouldn't you rather wake up one morning and hear that a deal has been made at a certain price, with shareholders of recorded? Than, question whether you should sell if the PPS took off and keep rising?
Per my previous posts, I believe that most don't really believe this will ever come to reality. I'm at 80-20% that it will be at least a billion sale. But, should be a minimum of $ 2.7 billion.
Dilution I believe is the first reason for only be a $ .07 PPS.
It's the "too good to be true" factor.
We all have told a few friends and some may have bought but, I'd be willing to bet most haven't. Why, well, you need to ask them.
My prior posts explain the lack of education of the potential revenues that these patents will produce. And management apparently doesn't want to explain it.
I was told outstanding now at 831 million and not sure of the float.
Smcluke.....TOO scary to even think about!!
But, $ 2.7 billion ($ 3.00/PPS) should be the least they should accept. And realistically that maybe even too low.
We're talking about patent (s) that are applied to every Voip call worldwide!! Do the math. When management ever gets around to educating the investment community, we might see how the value is (yet) to be determined.