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Good. Then site #3 should do it. My opinion.
If you don't know already, I'm told the Marx connection to the Juno Beach wreck is via Jud Laird. Laird had the wreck under the company name Lost Galleon. Jud Laird's daughter married one David Foster who was and is good friends with Marx. Marx and Foster picked up on the project together. From Laird right on up to now, this site proved a looser for everyone that has worked it (meaning real treasure). As to archival research and actual documentation that names this wreck site and what its manifest might have been, it seems no one has produced it. Allot of speculation and talk. Just the same, the site has apparently proven of value to launch a penny stock company.
So right you are but with one significant difference. Mel Fisher had done extensive research on the 1622 fleet and knew what he was after. No question, good things obviously take time so that's why the Site #3 permit is so important. As an observer, I have no confidence in the Juno wreck at all because I know who the previous players were including (Sir) Robert Marx who you credit as being one of the great treasure hunters. He along with the others of experience and credibility found "nada". So again, good luck to SFRX on this one. Who knows.
So a piece of Jade and what else in five years? Just curious.
When will photos of the treasure you are finding at the Juno site be posted on the SFRX Website? Exciting. Good luck.
Gee: Thanks for this great advise. Looks like Goldberg shelled out another $30. bucks to get this important news out. I'm goi ng to buy in right away.
As I and others have long given up on ever getting our money Goldberg stiffed us for, I'm now asking when is the SEC going to shut down this fraudulent heap of garbage? As a reminder, I'm one of the few posting here that actually met dear Mr. Goldberg and heard his lying crap one-on-one. As I was actually there respective to the ship and the going's on down there in the D.R. I can confirm the fact that many of the statements he made to us and to shareholders were outright lies. Now all of a sudden things have changed and the company is headed in a new direction. Really? La, la, la, la, la.
Interesting. What finds?
If Goldberg is still CEO, nothing changes. The man is a proven fraud.
NO CONTRACT EITHER. THERE WON'T BE ONE.
THAT WAS THEN. SO WHAT IS NOW?
In the world of commercial ships, there is full-active (going to sea) insurance and there is port risk insurance. No maritime insurance company is going to insure or continue to insure an American flag vessel that is not in compliance with mandatory U.S. Coast Guard and ABS (American bureau of Ships) licensing requirements which are all defunct. Especially when the ship hasn't even been dry-docked and surveyed in five years. Frankly, this ship and its owner/s are in serious trouble and it just hasn't hit yet being tucked away in a foreign port. Thats another issue in so much that the ship arrived in the Dominican Republic under contract that strictly required it to be insured. The contract (Hispaniola Ventures) has long since expired and so has the insurance. So that's my opinion. Quite provable.
When was this written? The R/V Hispaniola is a renegade ship with no legal licenses and documentation, nor required insurance. She has not been dry-docked in over five years and has not had anode replacements in near three years. There are no dry-docks on the north coast of the Dominican Republic and the vessel cannot legally leave port even to make a "suicide" voyage for the south coast. As is and has been previously confirmed, the vessel is under litigation, on going, on join g, on going and the marina has a bill now around $125K. I am told that much or most of the equipment on deck is in a irreparable state or has already been stolen. Great set and ready group to go treasure hunting in the Caribbean. The only cutting edge, state of the art technology that WAS aboard that vessel were the Webber designed diver operated Geometrics G-882 Cesium magnetometers which, as I know, are being held by webber against the more or less $200K they owe him.
In my opinion, the only hope for this garbage stock company is to continue trying to hustle dehumidifiers, the new supper light bulbs or even maybe some new innovation in super-suck vacuum cleaners. Its all a joke and our money is lost.
Getting down to the "nuts and bolts" of the issue, might not the State of Florida be having an issue approving an application from a treasure hunting company that in over three years has yet to produce even a single coin? For the sake of SFRX stockholders I hope the state proves lenient and grants the permit for site #3.
I'm looking forward to when the CEO of this scam is "officially invited" to Club-Fed. By the way, I was recently informed that Mr. Scaglione, although sentenced, doesn't start to serve that sentence until April and will be incarcerated in a cushy white-collar center in Florida. Wonder how one gets these considerations?
Except treasure and a permit for Site 3.
So this is beginning to read like you just might be the new promoter they may have hired. New angle, this Chinese like philosophy twist. What are they going to try next. I don't know what business background you may have but the right CEO is a companies "everything" As for this companies CEO, he's a proven liar and a fraud. As to the mind my own business, I very well am. I and others are owed allot of money by this CEO clown and will never see it unless we can turn him up side down and jingle the change out of his pocket.
Frankly speaking, I don't believe anyone here is looking for a lesson in philosophy. The past is most important in so much that the CEO Mark Goldberg is both the past and sadly the present, so in my opinion this stock is going nowhere.
Peggy: How right you are. They are one and the same without question. You know what I mean.
That is a fact. It could not be more precise. My understanding is he was fired before the Hispaniola ever left Miami. As said, he was fired by other treasure hunting company too. Apparently has never found or even seen real treasure on the ocean floor but is now a chat board expert. So it goes.
The "nice news" will be when we hear that Goldberg is going to jail to spend some time with his buddy Michael.
I know of people who got 30 to 60 days for (second time around) DUI. Mikey might have rolled over on someone. If so, wouldn't it be great to know it was Goldberg.
He got six months.
Please read my post #25080 which is at the beginning of the posting list. Besides Marx, most notable of them all, this particular site has been known for years and had been dove by members of the Fisher team and a number of the Gold Coast (1715 shipwreck regulars). That included, not just diving but magnetometer and U/W metal detector surveys as well. No great surprises waiting here, at least that's my opinion.
Well good for you. As to the Juno site, zero is zero and every professional familiar with the site knows it. That's my opinion.
Its interesting that you view it that way, particularly considering the fact that some very notables in the treasure hunting business have been over and over this site many times through out the years past. Results - ZERO. So what's new with Seafarer's that's going to produce any different results, tell me? Focus on site #3 for as, IN MY OPINION, that's where the future lies.
Well, the show must go on. To most and all professionally, the first two sites were, are, and continue to prove to be non-producers. Well, so what? In the wild catting for oil business, you contemplate drilling a number of holes knowing that some will inevitable be dry. The one that's wet makes up for all those dry holes. So is here. Site #3 is probably going to be the really "wet" one. It appears the whole name of the game is the #3 contract. So as we all have opinions, this is mine.
Yes, you are missing the point. I'm not a stockholder but I do know my stuff about the T.H. game. I've dove with some of the best and have actually recovered treasure. To date, this group has not. They come and they go. The history of this industry. Again I say that site #3 is the big play. Good luck. That's my opinion.
Its not at all mindless. Its legitimate. If you go through the previous posts I've made on this site, you will not my support and encouragement towards this site #3. I don't know who you are and that maters not. I know nothing about the ups and downs of penny stocks or the on going stroking I see on this board. Factually, Seafarer's, to date, has produced nothing - period. The big gamble is (for the time being) this site #3 which I happen to know a little bit about factually. That's the winner in waiting. So get the permit. THATS MY OPINION.
No it's not enough said. Please fill me in. So what have they found?
Please explain the meaning. "buzz in the treasure hunting community"? Don't know very much about Seafarer's but with them now having been in this business for several years with nothing to show for it other than trash and trinkets isn't very impressive. Not even a single coin? Or just one intact, impressive artifact of "value"? If there's any buzz in the treasure hunting community over this company, it has to be based on the savvy ability of its CEO to acquire salvage contracts from the State of Florida. Now that's something to raise ones eyebrows. Now if that kind of ability carries on through with the acquisition of a salvage contract for the site #3 you all refer to, that's the real hope and prayer for this company. This is just my own opinion.
I can provide you with some independent reporting status. "The R/V Hispaniola" remains tied to the dock at the Ocean World Marine, Puerta Plata, D.R. The dockage remains unpaid and now is up to around $120,000.00 U.S. The owners of the marina complex are now fully aware that the ship is undocumented, in noncompliance with U.S. maritime law, can't be moved (legally), can't be dry-docked and surveyed and thus can't be sold as a functional, usable ship. The hull deterioration process continues. I'm told that there are now other claims of dispute being filed against the ship. The practical "talk" now is to simply scrap the ship. Isn't this the same ship that, according to MEI, was moments away from leaving port to recover treasure? Seriously, as a law suit claimant I (and others) have given up on ever receiving anything. Oh, its still in the court but so what? So, the consensus is that we wait until INOH makes it big time selling dehumidifiers and magic lightbulbs and then perhaps we stand a chance to go after the company and Goldberg in the U.S. courts.
What break out move? Is Goldberg in jail and no one knew about it?
Just as funny as some one saying there is no divers law suit and if anything its in small claim court (doesn't even exist in the Dom. Rep.). On that note, did you ever call the Puerta Plata law firm or the marina as i previously provided the names and phone numbers. Never heard back on that one.
With you on the never say never but I lean more to the saying "when hell freezes over".
I met this man one-on-one. I've heard more than enough of his straight out lying. Last time he was on the Hispaniola in the Dominican Republic, he told us how every dollar we were owed would be paid with interest and how he had "big" money coming in so we could do what we were there to do. It never happened and we were basically left at the dock in Puerta Plata without even air fare home. The only people they actually did pay off early was the capt. and engineer for legal resins relating to the boat. The biggest bag holder was and still is Webber, Sr. just short of 200K and unpaid Dominican contract service fees (about 30K) So now your tell us that a guy like this just turns around and becomes the good guy. Unless Goldberg's been through some liars rehabilitation program and can prove it, don't hold your breath.
They always are but the "good stuff" as you call it has NEVER been found on the Juno site and probably never will. There have been allot of real pros on that site long before SFRX even existed.
Sorry to tell you this folks but that's about the most unimpressive post anyone could read. Ballast rocks, musket balls, cannon balls (a piece of Jade). With the exception of the piece of jade, the other things are normal routine, insignificant finds on every colonial period shipwreck. Everyone who's ever worked the Juno Beach site before SFRX has seen the same. So what? The big league ball game is in the Site#3 stadium.
I find it astounding that certain persons post what they do here, to willingly aid and abet unsuspecting investors to put their money into what "they" well know is a over and over again proven scam. I hope they take into consideration that when the SEC does finally close this down, the veil of a posting alias means nothing and they to may be subject to consequences.
My opinion hasn't changed since my first post here on 11/08/13. I have zero confidence in the Juno Beach site and know little about the Lantana site but believe that if anything worthy was there, for all the effort expended, something would be known by now. That said, I will also comment that under Florida State contracts, when recoveries are being made, a state inspector has to be on board (at least initially) and proper inventories maintained. That kind of tells me that noting to date has been recovered.
I do believe this Site #3 is valid. I say this not because of anything I have actually seen but base this on persons I know and trust who have supposedly seen some of the items recovered and had commented on very interesting touch marks on some of the recovered silver plates. The site is probably early 18th Century and could be one of the missing 1715 Fleet vessels. I do not agree with all the wild values being thrown around in these postings; billion dollars, etc. on a wreck site not even proven yet. Appears the whole SFRX ballgame play is riding on this site, whatever it is.