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Would sure like to see .0003 planted solidly before the news launches it.
It's time for something to happen. The timeline that Firefly quoted is growing thin.
Doesn't it seem a bit too quiet, ...or is it just me?
You're right, Shorts, ..."you just can't make this stuff up." Another case where the truth is stranger (better) than fiction.
On a public Bulletin Board like this one you can rarely know who the person next to you really is.
The simple facts after personal DD research are the only thing you can know for sure here.
It's nice to have you back. Sorry that we didn't find the GOLD.
EGAD, You're brutal.
:O)
I am having a few laughs as I get caught up tonight on the conversations of the day.
The PPS needs to start moving upward again, ...'cause the focus of this board is drifting.
Cyclone, I gotta ask!! You said, "I pay GOOD money to stay happy/lol"
Now what does that mean? Is it something that you can post on a public board without getting arrested for? (Now I'm laughing too)
I gotta know. :O)
Sure would like to see a solid .0003 BEFORE news launches this.
The thing about Chapter11 that we're not used to is that whatever he thinks, ...comes right out. Most of us give more personal thought to the overall effect of our statements, but with Chapter11 you get it all, quickly ...like a machine gun.
To his credit, you will probably find that he does not lie. He tells it like he sees it. He may change his position rapidly, …and some of us do too but we hold our opinion until it swings back again and others rarely see all the ups and downs, …while he does not.
He must learn to understand that his "opinions" can have an adverse effect upon others here and even upon the value of the current PPS, when he didn't mean for that to happen.
My opinions about the Server issue today can have an adverse affect too, but these posts were carefully calculated in the hope that others will be concerned and understand the urgency of the hour. Call or write to Michael. We cannot ignore this until it’s fixed.
The climb-rate on Alexa has been phenomenal. It’s no small task to climb in the rank as this website has. It’s a verifiable sign of real success in the target market!!
If only Michael had not shot himself in the foot over this server issue. We’re in trouble folks. This is going to go south quickly now. Internet success happens overnight when it’s “right” and failure occurs just as fast when it goes “wrong.”
:O/
I don't agree Chapter11. This will go up. IF (if) the server issue is resolved immediately.
The momentum has been adversely affected and we have suffered loss, but the REASON that the MMs are manipulating is due to the real potential of BUNM.
Do you see them manipulating dead stocks??
Oh, but there is !! There is something meaningful and effective that you can do. You can write a sane letter (perhaps eMail) to your US Congressman and your US Senators. They have no idea that this is occurring. They also wouldn't imagine the magnitude of the problem even if they have "heard about" the way that MMs manipulate stocks.
The MarketMakers do play tricks, we all know that and if you have L2 and watch carefully you may see things that are hard to believe. They will sell a few shares below the ask (tiny blocks) just to cause the price to dip (investors don't sell $2 worth of stock at a time) and eventually some of the private investors begin to sell at that price. The people who don't have L2 don't know how much was sold, they only know that the latest price is down, and then down again, so they panic, exactly as the MMS want them to. Then the MMs can buy the shares and sell them higher later. They hide sales until after the bell to not allow volume to display and then let it go after-hours, (Millions of shares) ...they cause upticks to be erased after they have already appeared on Level 2 charts, ...all kinds of tricks (THAT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL) and can cause an upward run to not only stall, but die and reverse so that they can make money themselves.
Not only these things, but they also sell shares that they don't own (sell them short) and do NOT intend to ever cover them. (Naked Short) Hundreds of millions, ...Billions of shares of this and that, …flooding the float pool with counterfeit shares and diluting the value of every corporation on the board. (As well as diluting the value of our portfolio)
Trading today would not be the risk that it is without the thieves who control the market. A simple supply and demand system would work well, and should be implemented but in 1932 (I think it was) a system was devised to prevent radical swings in the market, of the kind that allowed the market to crash in 1929. The so-called Market Makers were placed in the pipeline as governors and a sort of pressure relief valve in the flow of trading. A the time, they were men of integrity who took their responsibility seriously, I'm sure, but over time the opportunity of using their position to their advantage to make some money by manipulating just a bit in the direction that would benefit a buy or sell that they themselves were involved in, ...was tempting. Then came the electronic era when computers managed everything and with the touch of the enter key, transactions were completed instantly. Volume increased to the point where it became so easy to side-track certain transactions and brokers could transfer blocks of stock amongst themselves ...back and forth so easily and silently that they have learned how to manipulate the system and the market to the tune of billions and billions of dollars per year which are siphoned off into personal accounts by diluting the market, and covering their tracks rather than covering their shorts. ...and this is certainly not a victimless crime, although it is a faceless one.
Why is it that WRNW continues to flounder in a mind-numbing decrease in PPS when all of the investors and all of the indicators suggest that this should be the stock of the decade, (??) BECAUSE, while the Outstanding Shares are fixed at 562,000,000 ...there are probably in reality 1.5 Billion shares in the float, …2/3 of them being counterfeit shares. My wife and I own over 1% of that company (...in certified shares), but whenever shares are sold, and the number averages a hundred million per week, where do we suppose those shares are coming from?? They should be coming from my account or the account of someone with certified shares (order the certificates) ...but instead they are often "sold" by the broker (MM) who doesn't own any and will NOT be covering that "short." It will be a never-covered naked short and the dilution continues. The value of all commodities on the planet (Except under communist or socialist rule) is regulated by a simple supply and demand. In the case of WRNW, (BUNM, etc. etc.) the supply is ever increasing whenever there is a demand. That means that the value decreases as the supply is increased. How to eliminate the counterfeit shares, which are floating amongst the certified ones, is the issue at hand. Not an easy problem to solve. But when WRNW moves to the OTCBB, something will be done. I wrote to the CEO recently and he then released a PR indicating that the move would be soon.
Only if the congress of the United States becomes enraged by how rampant the conspiracy has become, will anything change, ...before it's too late and this practice of internal corruption takes the entire stock market system to it's knees and destroys it and the economy that it supports. It's serious and it's huge.
...BUNM, is in the middle of it, as is WRNW, etc., etc., etc..
Write somebody, or just copy/paste some of this post or the post of others concerning this issue to your elected officials. DO SOMETHING about this !! The Brokers will IGNORE ALL of the latest regulations and attempts to force them to cover their naked shorts unless the heat and the spotlight is applied NOW. They have been stealing money for a long time and do not want to stop doing it.
Rasica, I started to reply a couple of times and hesitated, but have decided to go ahead and comment.
If the corporations take the new Pink Sheet rating system seriously, and they do their homework, the system will be an asset to investors. Today it's unreliable because only *some* CEOs have treated the new system with respect.
And if (if) the new regulations are taken seriously by the brokers and the MMs, and they do their homework, (and cover their shorts) these regulations will be a tremendous asset to every corporation and to their investors. (us) Today I feel that there is so much arrogant contempt for any genuine regulation of the Naked Short Selling issue, that the MMs will ignore these regulations in mass rebellion, as they have done thus far and will not cover their shorts, as is their current behavior.
The LORD knows that I hope to be wrong about these new regulations, but somehow I doubt it. The NSS issue is bringing the economy around us here in the iHub community to its knees while the Brokers and their MMs take the money home. They feel immune to any genuine scrutiny due to such a long history of insane abuse by those thieves.
JP, I have talked to him about it, weeks ago. Michael's personal eMail address is in my address book. He told me what they were doing and I accepted the fact that these things happen, this is the second upgrade in a short period and the fast growth may have caught him a bit off-guard.
BUT, enough is enough. The time is past when this should have been finished and the website is miserable to navigate now.
This is a two edged sword, ...the reason that the site is so slow is because it is PACKED WITH USERS AT THE SAME MOMENT, ...ALL DAY LONG. That's great !! But they won't stay long and won't be back to "try again" if this continues. (some are already gone forever)
Momentum HAS been LOST. Do the math!!! How quickly were people signing up two weeks ago and how quickly are they signing up today?? The difference is in the performance of the website. When the website IS YOUR PRODUCT, then it deserves the utmost attention.
I don't apologize for my attitude at the moment, this is terrible and was completely avoidable.
That's a polite answer, Matt, but Burned Media doesn't deserve any more slack on this one. This issue is huge.
Any visitor to this site today will NEVER return. And many Registered Users will remove the site from their favorites list after trying to use the site like it is now.
This is like opening a retail store with enough shopping space for thousands and having only 2 checkout counters. How many people will return to that store?
I spent a very long career of over 40 years in the computer industry and know a thing or two about the hows and whys. This is a complicated thing to do, migrating the database to a new DB management system and then the entire website to a new server, but there are 24 hours in the day and sometimes you use them all until the job is done. This is one of those times.
If this isn't fixed immediately, the site will lose a huge amount of momentum in growth.
People do NOT TOLERATE this kind of ignorance on the Internet. They buy HIGH SPEED connections for a reason. They do not intend to wait for a page to come up. They WILL move on permanently.
:O) Yep, it's a real billboard, ...but I created the modified Hypster graphics myself.
A billboard is to advertise a product or service and that's what it's doing, ...everywhere I go.
Hope that doesn't offend anyone here. Michael liked it but told me not to "hold my breath" in looking for one to appear beside the highway. He isn't about to spend that kind of money for the real thing. It might bring a valid return-on-investment along a busy highway with young commuters, but for now it's relegated to the "traffic" right here on iHub.
I still have faith in ISYX. I could be wrong, ...it wouldn't be the first time.
Wil Riner answers me when I have something important to talk about, but NOT when I'm trying (as I have many times) to get some idea about what's going on inside. I know he reads my eMails because he does respond if the content is important to him, but will not be baited into giving me any inside information.
:O/
He did however take the time two or three months ago to tell me some of the whos and the whys, of their situation and suggested that I should continue to "watch." So I'm going to continue to watch. With 54m shares in my account, ...just in case he pulls off something really cool.
Now THAT was a good laugh.
Cyclone, I have never personally met a truly wealthy person who talked about being rich. Only the ones who "wanted" to be rich talk like that.
To some people, having $50k in total assets makes them feel "rich." Let them enjoy themselves. And if BUNM does make some of the young people on this board wealthy, ...wouldn't that be great!!!
A squeeze? That happens when MMs cover, but they don't do that anymore.
They don't bother to cover anymore, do they? They just sell those short shares and put the money in their account. End of story.
The short squeeze is probably a thing of the past.
Looking at the last run a few months ago when it went to .01 is pretty encouraging, since the current rumors would give this a pretty good excuse to run.
I'd be in favor of a Kentucky Derby style run, myself. I'm ready for some exciting entertainment. Too many have fizzled or gone dormant recently.
:O/
Michael suggested that this server upgrade will be sufficient for a while, but then if the growth again overwhelms this one, he'll just have to add more power. Growth problems are the kind of trouble every CEO loves to hate.
Next time, hopefully he will have learned from this experience (the hard way) to start the migration BEFORE it's necessary!!
Wow, ...this Server / Database Manager is overwhelmed and that isn’t good, even for a day. It took me 33 seconds to display the music browser page. (And my connection is 1.3mbps) Young people will not tolerate that. This upgrade was a bit late I'm afraid and some folks will have dropped off because of it.
Nobody waits that long for a page to come up in this age of instant gratification.
ON THE OTHER HAND, this morning I was thinking about how Michael might encourage Registered Users to invite friends to sign up. Think about how fast Hypster can grow now that they have 50k people on the register. If each one of them persuaded 5 of their friends and acquaintances to register, in one week the count would go above 250k. That’s a quarter of a million NEW registered users, plus the original 50k.
Now the question is how to persuade these current users to persuade 5 of their friends.
When the new server is tweaked up and spinning at high speed, it will be time to consider making a campaign like this and watch it grow overnight. There are some amazing things that can happen if you can get 50,000 people to move in one wave.
I think Keith meant that being responsible for your words, (although you're free to say them) might also make you liable for them.
You "claim" with great authority that the "company is dumping..."
Well, if that were true, wouldn't those "sales" show up somewhere?? AlphaTrade says that nothing has changed hands for two days. Not one share.
Only coffee, fruit juice and your message.
Some looosers have nothing better to do than lurk in the shadows of the ADNN BB??
I imagine that there are some out there like that. How pathetic a life, wasted, when there could be real issues to face ...elsewhere.
Yep, after several days of trying at .0001 and NO SUCCESS at all, ...yesterday evening I set my bid to .0002 and this morning it filled.
I hate to be late and to have missed the ones, but late is better than missing the train altogether!! Now I wait and hope for something truly amazing to happen.
:O)
Pay NO ATTENTION WHATSOEVER to a poster who always and ONLY posts negative stuff EVERYWHERE he goes.
( !!! )
There are simply NO bids, so the value indicates zero. Somebody needs to buy some of this and the bid value will show up in our accounts again.
Still awaiting the cloak of silence to be breached regarding the new developments within InSystcom.
Pink Elephants are usually a symbol of drunkenness. Have I just seen one of those, this early in the day?
There's simply not much to say today that hasn't already been said.
People are not dumping their shares, there isn't any new money rushing in, and that's about the end of the story for Friday, August 3rd.
We'll have to wait for a new week to begin. Hopefully a COMPLETELY NEW week.
In your spare time today, since the market is quiet, write to your US Congressman and the US Senators from your state. Send them an eMail telling them about Naked Short Selling and how it's stealing the investors money and destroying the value of corporate America. Tell them that you want them to take this seriously and to actually DO SOMETHING about it.
With new servers, those who come to look around will not be discouraged by slow performance as some now are.
Typical growing pains of any company with rapid growth.
TheLimyOne has the story correct. Read it: #3944
Ok, Mock if you must. I asked a simple question (Wednesday) and was not fishing for a foolish answer.
You say, "What say you?" ...I say you're not too smart.
I checked back here on Wednesday and found that there was suddenly a bunch of sales, etc, after this stock had been completely dead, ...due to (apparently) thieves at the helm of the company.
I have millions of shares and would be happy to sell them if something's going to move here again. Even if the shares were to grow to be valuable after some maneuvering, I have NO INTEREST in staying among thieves to do any business.
My shares were purchased back a few months ago when there was early enthusiasm toward dredging for gold in Guinea. My Great Grandfather was a very successful gold miner in California and as a child I found plenty of Gold in the Bear River below his cabin. He never took the gold from there, so that the kids could always find some. Gold mining has always been an interest to me but this SBMI experience was nothing more than throwing thousands of dollars after the stories of liars. At least that's apparently what happened, from the tiny amount of information passed along.
I missed that last few hours but wonder how this closed at .0002 with NO SALES for the last hour. Was there not a single person out there willing to buy $10. worth of shares at .0003 just to create a better close??
Or was it the MMs that wouldn't sell any at .0003 for an hour??
Allowing the supply and demand factor to automatically regulate the price of buying and selling, ...is simple and works in every marketplace on the planet.
Regulation by a government agency should be limited to the scrutiny (examination) of those companies attempting to gain access to public investors through the public stock markets and their continued requirement to post financial data.
That would be my opinion today, related to your suggestion of automated-algorithm regulation of stock sales.
Plese check the history of those who ONLY post negative and FEAR messages. Click on his tradehandle, then scan through the history of messages and you'll see that he is a fear monger only. Nothing that he says is even remotely associated with trading.
Then Ignore !!
I WATCHED as some .0005 was DELETED on Monday. I reported on this board that the sales appeared on the AlphaTrade chart for a short while and then while I watched, they dropped away and were gone. The trace dropped back to .0004 as though it had NEVER really happened. Somebody replied that it had probably been an "out-of-sync" trade, but I've watched this chart with blinding focus, for countless hours and NEVER seen such a thing occur, not even once and that day it happened THREE times. On at least three occasions that day, sales that had occurred at .0005 were completely and permanently gone.
I would say that these MarketManipulators are becoming MORE bold and arrogant in what they do, since there are people now attempting to put some new regulation into how they account for what they do. Perhaps they are trying to pocket as much as they possibly can through all illegitimate means prior to any new regulation.
The good news is that it's holding again.
There is value in this stock and everybody knows that, but the general lack-of-interest this week in the overall market to invest new money is death to an upward push.
I stand corrected. They will move at .0003