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One final time,
Again, as a shareholder in TOMDF, It's not the size of the space that bothers me. I dont care if it's 30 square feet or 3,000.
It's the fact that a penny stock with an "office" in that building will give off the stench of being corrupt.
And I am pretty sure that any institutional investor knows the history of 40 Wall, in regards to small companies.
Very easy to look legit in this world. Just don't hang around where the unlegit are.. It's not brain surgery.
My 2 week sabbatical begins now lol. Let's see what changes by Mid December
Joe,
Thank you for the response.
And yes if you remember, it was I who first brought out the tackiness of the scotch tape in presentations.
Again I have no idea about what type of office Todos has in that building.
And I dont really mind if it is just a desk with 5 paper clips.
It is the ADDRESS, and the HISTORY of the many scams that have occurred in that building that concerns me. Please read the article
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-trump-40-wall-street/
Why does Todos want to be in a building that has a reputation like that stated in the article?
They are impressing no one, and possibly keeping people away.
Honestly, if you were CEO of a small cap company, would you have your office there? And if yes why, when there are hundreds of other shared spaces to rent in Manhattan.
Food for thought:
I grew up with a friend who was a very good person. He hung out with a crowd that was very questionable. I knew he was honest and trustworthy. But you shoulda heard what those that didnt know him well enough said about him, all because of the company he kept.
Drey,
Absolutely. Prob won't get past the elevators lol.
Is it a "shared space" like you state?
Sooooo why isnt anyone who is majorly long even concerned here? The building is not one that most small companies want to be associated with.
Is there a real office there?
Is it just a desk? If it is, just admit it.
But don't put into every press release "with offices in Israel and New York.
Lets just be honest. NO?
Rokky,
I will let you know what I see there since we seem to be the only two people here interested. (if i still own shares here come February)
I find it strange though, and it peaks my interest, that those that 1) claim they do tons of DD, 2) own millions of shares, and 3) have way more invested in this than I do, don't seem to care as much as I do, and it doesn't seem to bother them, and there is no response.
I just think that appearances matter. I guess others don't.
I learned something new. I didn't know I could remove my own "like" once posted. Thank you.
I brought up the 40 Wall Street article well over a year ago. That building was trashed in a Bloomberg article about unscrupulous companies that set up shop there. Google the article if you wish.
Not accusing Todos of being one of those companies but wondering if they truly have a corporate presence there? If yes, fine, as there are also many prestigious companies with office space there. It is a very impressive building. If no, why even keep that address where it could raise eyebrows among potential investors or raise doubt about Todos' legitimacy? So again I ask if anyone has ever been there?
Yes some of my posts have a "bash" tone. It would make sense for the bashers to like them. I've also posted MANY supportive posts over the last 21 months.
I find Todos to be extremely frustrating. After all this time I believe it is time for GC to either prove himself or step aside.
Again. ALL MY OPINION
I did click on my own post because I am not here often and didn't know how the "like" feature worked.
So was checking it out when I accidentally "liked" my own post.
Buy as much as you wish. To me, buying at this point is reckless. To each his own.
I am going to be in Manhattan in February and plan on visiting 40 Wall St. Suite 2702.
I've read some articles about shady businesses in that building.
Not accusing Todos of anything.
Just wondering what kind of corporate offices Todos has there?
Has anyone ever been there?
And yes. I still own shares in this company.
I check in to this every 10 to 14 days, never miss anything substantial, and immediately pick up where I left off. Just like a tv soap opera that one wouldn't watch for 2 weeks. This is starting to be a real joke, however without a punch line cause nothing is funny here.
I agree with you and have been saying it for a long time. A R/S at this price is a death knell for shareholders.
I give GC credit that he has kept his word to this point and not R/S'd. But I have said all along that I believe there can be a point where he has no alternative.
Unfortunately, lack of cash could be a breaking point.
Awaiting the update.
I think the next update to the share structure will be very telling.
Todos cannot keep operating if they have no cash.
Extremely large increase in OS will prove that Todos is truly cash starved and are probably going to keep releasing shares prior to a massive R/S.
No increase and I would surmise that they are hanging in there. I still feel that they need to consolidate their efforts in some manner to reduce spending.
Either way, not looking pretty but I am still waiting on this corporate update that GC stated is occurring soon.
AGAIN ALL MY OPINION
Drey,
The following is all my opinion:
You are absolutely right about the serious implications of a company not paying its employees. This is probably the worst shape I have seen this company in my 20 plus months here.
Lack of cash is the beginning of the end of most small caps.
Issuing more shares at 1.1 cent is a losing proposition to current share holders. Any loans undertaken now is also a disaster because all will be toxic. That is why so many penny stocks conclude that the only way out is to R/S and then offer a prospectus to sell more shares.
GC has said he will never do this, but in reality how much longer can he hold out if he has no cash on hand. If this is performed, we are all in the toilet.
The problems here are numerous but so is the potentiial payout. At this point the best scenario would be if a potential suitor were to buy the 3CL Pharma/3CL protease portion. Todos could then be out of the Tollovid/Tollovid Max/ Tollovir arena. Get away from the crowdfunding. Get out of the manufacturing business. Get out of the Texas facility.
Todos would then keep the testing portion. Keep Provista for covid and monkeypox testing and try to keep cash flowing in, try to develop Tollotest (unless part of 3CL buyout) , and proceed with Breast cancer and Alzheimers test development.
I have always thought Todos was spread too thin. Others here have said it is better to have your hat in many arenas. But that strategy is DEFINITELY not working. What good is it if you have 100 horses in the race but not one of them ever cashes out. Better to stick with your 3 best horses and and take the win, place and show.
To those buying more shares, I respect your commitment and trust in your DD. To me, way too risky right now. I will stand put with what I have. I've been watching this movie for soooo long I have to see the ending.
Again, I think trying to find a potential buyer is now the best option to surviveability.
PS. When is this big update that GC has been talking about for the last 3 weeks.
AGAIN ALL MY 2 CENTS
My weekly check in and to me things not so promising.
Like others say there are many horses in this race. The problem is that not one horse ever crosses the finish line so no one can ever cash a ticket. All the horses just keep running and running.
Like I said previously, this is like a bad soap opera where you can stop watching for 1 week or two at a time and then rejoin and be all caught up, cause not much really happens.
I read into GC's twitter just like DREY did. GC is indirectly saying cash is needed and we are not making enough with Tollovid and testing.
Flag football, the weightlifter, the king and Michael Irvin were all a waste of time like I said from the beginning. Todos is trying to become a serious player in the biotech space yet they di@k around wasting time with losers and strategies that are useless. LETS GROW UP.
I am sitting at dead even right now but this is starting to look extremely ugly to me.
Before everyone screams this IS ALL MY OPINION.
LETS START ACTING LIKE A SERIOUS COMPANY
Rok57,
I too have a point where i will buy some more shares with a hope of turning a profit on a small runup. I don't feel this is bottomed yet.
I've done it twice over the last few months to lower my breakeven on my main bundle of shares that I am holding long.
I never liked playing with a stock like this but, unfortunately, due to the inability of this to gain any momentum, despite numerous good press releases, forces one's hand.
Back in 7-10 days.
Rok57,
Hate to say it but doesn't quite look like the bottom yet.
To me this is starting to be like a bad soap opera where you can miss a week and yet catch right up to the story.
After almost 2 years now i check sp once a day and look at press releases/message boards once every 7 to 10 days .
I think I'm just burnt out lol
Don't know but it shows a lack of faith by someone or some group.
We seem to just keep inching back to that 1 to 1.2 cent level.
Plus I wonder if things are so rosy why is there no insiders buying?
Any ideas?
Speculation and Big Gamble are exactly what this is. And yes I agree. People see 10Q's that show a company losing money every quarter, and others see a looming R/S and they immediately move on to investigate another stock in pennyworld.
I'm hoping we will hit it right because we know the science and see the potential.
As for the National exposure I am not speaking of spending. Prove the science by getting an EUA or phase 2/3 results and have all hands on deck in marketing contacting the major networks.
I know I am making it sound much easier than it is but only 1 major network or newspaper needs to be broken and the rest will follow suit, angry that they weren't first to break the story.
Especially with these 2 new Covid variants which are coming. Very immune to current vaccines. Timing may be coming together. (not that I am wishing for a covid nightmare scenario). But it looks like one is heading our way.
ALL In my opinion
Unfortunately I am not joking.
I would be absolutely thrilled if this could slowly rise to .04 to .06 in the next few weeks and hold steady there.
I have been here for 20 months and it has not yet been able to hold that level.
There has been plenty of good news that should have been able to get us there. Everyone states reasons why it keeps failing to hold. It could be one of them or all of them.
I still say NATIONAL exposure is the only thing that will start to get us to move. I've given a small example of a ticker that got a short NATIONAL blurb and took off. And that was a 10 minute segment on one channel.
A big channel with a nationally known doctor to discuss Todos. and we could be off. Then if lucky enough to get picked up by other channels, then no telling.
Others have said here, we don't need this.
I disagree wholeheartedly. No news, no quarterlies, no press releases, no contracts have moved the SP.
GC did mention some approach to national exposure in a recent tweet.
I am hoping that is where he starts to put more emphasis and not on bodybuilders or kings which will have negligeable effect on overall operations.
ALL IN MY OPINION.
.10? .20? .30?
Let's try to get back to .04 first and see if we can hold that.
red one,
you posted " if the stock won't move on merit then the BOD are likely going to push for a Rev split before the time is right."
So far, GC and the BOD have stuck to their word and allowed two shareholder approved authorizations to R/S's expire. One does have to wonder if they will let the newly approved 3rd authorization also expire?
So far, there is no news that has had a meaningful impact on sp. I do agree that the uplist no matter where the sp is at, is a POSSIBILITY. Not one that anyone here even wants to think about. But one has to wonder that if no catalyst arises to increase sp will frustration set in and the uplist be performed.
It seems that even mentioning this possibility upsets many on this board. I do believe GC when he stated no R/S until sp rises. However i also can envision a scenario where he will state that no catalyst has propelled the price so Todos must change its strategy to get onto AMEX.
Because of this I am not increasing my share count but am just holding steady.
That is why I am very interested in hearing the updates that will be provided in the next few "weeks" because the tone of the possible uplist seems to be more serious while the catalyst to increase sp have not materialized yet.
If this upsets anyone, I am just stating that , in my opinion, it is a possibility.
Should be interesting to watch how it plays out.
Redspeed,
I never stated the uplist would occur in weeks. There is a word in there called "IF".
My statement states "IF the uplist actually occurs in weeks etc etc
The main point is that this is the first time the word "weeks" has been used in referring to an uplist. Also the AMEX was stated for the first time. So, obviously the ball is beginning to roll and there is a much more serious, detailed tone being undertaken by management.
Later in your post you state "if you listened to the recent video". What makes you assume I didn't?
Also I'm fine waiting for quarterly reports with this company.
Signed contracts have not lead to share price appreciation with Todos. Todos posts 50 million contract with Nerd Hemp. Share price goes nowhere. Why? Do you believe that Todos is really going to post revenue of 11.5 million from the Nerd Hemp deal in the 4th quarter, as stated in press release. I don't . Pretty ambitous prediction considering the first machines are not being installed until October, also stated in press release.
Most smart investors wait for signed contracts? Todos signed 3 contracts at the end of August 2020 totaling 11.7 million. I'm happy I wasn't one of the "smart" investors then because 5 weeks later the sp was halved and the "Smart" investors lost 50 % of their investment.
Of course, everything is relative because there are always other events happening simultaneously.
As for me, I will remain unsmart and wait for the quarterly reports. Maybe not the best way to maximize return but also the wisest way not to get taken for a bath.
So far, my strategy on this symbol has been fairly dead on as I am extremely happy with my current breakeven point. Can others state the same?
Everyone should employ their own strategy according to their risk/reward profile.
GLTA
Grease,
I too am hoping that we either get a rise in share price due to EUA's or just rising revenues.
I was just taken aback by the word "weeks" in the corporate update.
If the sp were to rise on increasing revenues it would take several quarters. If the uplist actually materializes in "weeks" then either there is some massive news to break shortly, interest of institutional investors peaks, or the R/S will be undertaken at any price (against what has been spoken).
From the corporate update:
"New York Stock Exchange listing
The Company is now pursuing a national stock exchange listing with the New York Stock Exchange through the NYSE American Exchange. We expect to provide further details in the weeks ahead."
Looks like crunch time is approaching
1). Although GC has continually stated that he wouldn't R/S at such an anemic share price, is he and the BOD of the same mindset? Or
2) are they going to say something like we have tried everything to get interest in Todos yet sp is still lingering so we have no choice but to R/S now and uplist. Or
3) do they think the crowdfunding will garner interest, institutional investors will get involved, or do they have something else that they feel will result in sp appreciation to make the R/S less severe.? Or
4 Do they not do the R/S and stay on the present course and on OTCQB
Should be interesting to watch. But very glad I lowered my breakeven in case this goes south.
Again. My opinion. Rip away if you must
Red one
I believe Todos would qualify under the requirements of Standard 1 which would require a minimum bid price of $3.
Still would have to be a hefty R/S unless there is massive share price appreciation to come
https://www.colonialstock.com/nyse-american-listings.htm
"As far as buying more on the dips, not going to happen with the threat of a reverse split hanging over our heads.. that would be crazy"
Well then CALL ME MR CRAZY because I have lowered my breakeven quite considerably.
Now I can sit back and just root for the success of TODOS without breaking a sweat.
Red,
News will not move this.
While I appreciate all of the press releases in keeping investors informed about progress etc, it has become quite obvious that , IN MY OPINION, no news will move sp.
Weightlifters, kings, flag football etc aint gonna do it. Even contracts, increased testing, etc bragging of large revenue increases to come aint gonna do it.
News on the NATIONAL level broadcast by the big networks. That is what is needed.
In the meantime I recommend you hold the shares you have, buy some more when the price becomes too low and sell them quickly to lock in a quick profit and lower your overall breakeven.
It has been working out well for me and I am still holding my large lot of shares because I do believe in the science and the possibility of a substantial payout one day.
AGAIN ALL MY OPINION
Well to be fair, around 6-8 months back, we did have scotch tape holding up Todos signs behind GC when he was giving interviews until I complained about it and JFB contacted the company to clean up their act.
So all penny stocks need to learn to act professionally.
CEO On Twitter
"TOMDF getting closer to some major network coverage. Spoke with two financial arms of MSM this weekend"
Bravo GC..I have been saying for 18 months that this share price will not move until it hits NATIONAL level news. CBS, ABC, NBC. FOX, MSNBC, CNN, Dr. Lapook, Dr. Jen Ashton, Dr. Siegel.
Many have disagreed with me saying other items such as announcements, 10K's, testing, press releases etc etc would move share price. WELL, NONE OF IT HAS.
There is a stock called BYRNA. They sell non lethal personal protective weapons. Two years ago stock was nowhere; around 20 cents. The riots of summer 2020 hit. Shortly after Hannity put it on his TV show in a 10 minute blurb while talking with a law enforcement official. Two days later, Share price about $2.50.
Bravo GC. Get this known NATIONALLY.
Then the R/S can be done properly, at a fairly low 1/10 or thereabouts and we could be off to the races.
Again all In My Opinion for the nitpickers
If you question someone's honesty, how do you then say you will not get into it?
If I made a serious accusation against someone, I would have facts to back it up.
I haven't watched a Pro Bowl in over 30 years.
I certainly will never watch a flag football/skills competition that is taking its place.
Drey, I think 8 cents is overoptimistic.
3 to 4 cents in the next week or two is do-able.
Nothing moves this ticker because when it starts to move it's quickly daytraded out of any run.
National level exposure will be the only thing to move this appreciably.
Many others disagree.
DISCLAIMER: All in my opinion, of course.
Ten cents to forty cents next week?.
I'll be happy if this gets to 4 cents and can hold there.
Grease,
That would be huge.
An EUA from any foreign country would, at a minimum, get a mention on the national level here and could start the discussion on why or why not the US would follow.
Again, IMO
My disclaimer is at the bottom i.e. In my opinion
So , in my opinion, this will never have an appreciable rise in SP until it gets national exposure. I have been saying that for over a year now and I stand by it. Again, in my opinion.
redspeed,
You are more than entitled to your opinion but forty cents right now is just a pipedream as this ticker can't even maintain 4 cents when it gets there.
I've said it before and will say it again. This ticker will never make an appreciable move until we hear Dr.Siegel on FOX, Dr. Lapook on CBS, or Dr.Ashton on ABC etc , etc say the word TODOS on a national news broadcast. And that will only occur if there is approval of Tollovid for long Covid, or EUA for Tollovir for severe/hospitalized covid patients.
Any other spokespeople, influencers etc will not move the SP, as we have witnessed recently. There have been multiple positive releases and no upward movement of SP.
Also, remember that if the SP does begin to move and all notes convert. the outstanding share count will be just shy of 2 billion. That's a lot of paper.
So, I will use this as a "play" for now. Maybe pick up a few more shares if price lowers some more but only with the intention of unloading if there is a mini-spike. Keep lowering my breakeven at this point.
Many of you will disagree, I'm sure.
ALL IN MY OWN OPINION of course.
I was stating that the share price would have to go to .40 for an uplist to the true Nasdaq if one were to assume a 1/10 R/S to get the $4.00 min bid price. I then stated that I DO NOT see this running to $.40 in the near future.
I once had great expectations for this stock. Lack of SP movement has now made me very hesitant. Am actually very confused by SP movement, or lack of.
At this point, I am just holding what I have.
If SP falls further I might be a buyer again.
But those would hopefully then be sold to lower my breakeven to a lower point.
Good luck to you and all holders here
Red one, My thoughts on the R/S and other topics you have mentioned.
Many will disagree.
Todos has had an approval for an R/S authorized for the last few years. GC never pulled the trigger because he knew the timing wasn't right.
He has repeatedly stated that the R/S would never be implemented at this anemic SP.
Like others pointed out, I think he was under the impression that there would be a run in SP due to all that is going on with the press releases. Obviously, that hasn't happened. Others have stated that they think a 1:10 R/S is possible. That would mean the SP is .40. I don't see that happening either
I am of the same opinion as you. 99 out of 100 R/S's result in doom for current shareholders. However most of these are performed to lower the outstanding shares so more can be issued to raise more capital. This R/S is a different beast. I personally have never held a ticker when I knew an R/S was going to occur because I know that the result won't be pretty..
In this case, due to the fact that the R/S is being performed for an uplist I am holding. As long as GC keeps his word and doesn't perform the R/S at such an anemic price I don't see much downside to holding. If he does perform one at current levels we will all be wiped out.
So I recommend you follow your own advice. Don't fall in love with a ticker. I have one lot of shares I am holding long term hoping that everything works out. I also have bought other lots at 1.5 to 2 cents and sold them at 3 to 4 cents. This puts money in my pocket and on an overall basis lowers my breakeven point substantially. I think many others are doing this also
I agree with you totally.... Never fall in love with a stock. And most R/S's result in disaster for current shareholders
ALL IN MY OPINION, OF COURSE
I wouldn't doubt that numbers are exaggerated if one doesn't want to admit that an endorsement or campaign didn't work as well as anticipated.
I don't DAILY second guess EVERY decision but I do second guess a few, like most investors do.
I never tweeted GC even once to tell him how to run his company.
I realize that marketing is totally different nowadays but getting some nonames to sell a few bottles is not a long term strategy. Like I stated, if it can sell a few bottles to keep some revenue flowing then it is probably a good thing. I mean, a little is better than zero.
Finally I never stated that Todos isn't working with the scientific community. I stated I would be focusing MOST of my time there and not with petty B list celebrities.
All my opinion... just like others are allowed to have theirs.
Believe that if you want. Sounds suspect to me.
I would much rather be spending time proving the product to the scientific community than getting these endorsements from folks that 99.999% of the world never heard of.
I guess if it can keep some revenue coming in to limit dilution its ok.
But I wonder what % of the sales goes to the....ahem.... celebrity?
Well if he gets someone to even buy one bottle that will be one bottle more than the Billy Banks endorsement sold.
Just reposting my post # 11227
It is part of my self reflective therapy...SERENITY NOW
11227
I have been invested in and following the Todos story for well over a year now. In all of my years I have never seen a ticker with more promise than this one. The lack of share price support is almost unimaginable.
It's disheartening to see OTC or pink sheet symbols that have no real products or any revenues trading higher and have a higher market cap than a company like Todos with proven testing, revenues,,drugs in the pipeline, accomplished doctors on board etc etc etc.
This SP is just being manipulated by market makers, day traders and toxic note
holders.
I truly feel that shortly the day will come when all longs, who have stood with Tomdf all this time, will receive their just rewards.
No need to reply. I am just venting to myself.