Now at least Trump has a specific person to blame if he loses.

So why dont you want a fair playing field for Americans......You flood the country with cheap labor, outsourced all the industry to cheap labor........

So do you look forward to a time in the near future in which you'll find yourself paying twice as much or more for most of the stuff you buy? Including food?

Yep, you're absolutely right.

It's the Republicans who do trickle-down economics.

And you're once again replying to my posts without actually bothering to read them.

It did not go unnoticed:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-stage-nazi-symbol/

One thing politicians wont do is close those loopholes, especially for the rich....And who is the party of the rich?

They've never wanted to close those loopholes, and that's been pretty much unanimous, except for politicians like Bernie and AOC. I would also point out that the House is held by the Republicans right now. So why haven't THEY closed those loopholes?

Now what party do Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, hedge fund manager JD Vance, and so many other billionaires--well, JD's not a billionaire--belong to? Along with billionaire Donald Trump? Why yes, that would be the Republican Party. Do those people have the interests of people like you at heart?

Of course they don't. Biden has seen to it that new factories have opened. Bridges and other infrastructure are being repaired and rebuilt. That's helping the working class. Something Trump did not do.

Once again, you just want to whine.

Have you taken a look at your brokerage statement recently?

Lincoln had the same problem,,,,,America couldn't compete with worldly labor wages and keep a standard of living for his own, not to mention the government needed money.....

It was much more complicated. And he applied a temporary income tax to raise the money he needed for the Civil War.

I can't wait to cast 30 votes.

I hope you do that.

So, Tax or Tariff
That is the question Lincoln posed

And? Was Lincoln always right? I don't think so. Obviously, a graduated income tax is fairer to ordinary people. Tariffs on ALL imported goods hits the poor and the middle class like a ton of bricks.

But in fact, Lincoln DID impose an income tax:

In order to help pay for its war effort in the American Civil War, Congress imposed the first federal income tax in U.S. history through passage of the Revenue Act of 1861.[75] The act created a flat tax of three percent on incomes above $800 (which was 5.6 times the 1861 nominal gross domestic product per capita of $144.31; the corresponding income in 2021 is $384K). This taxation of income reflected the increasing amount of wealth held in stocks and bonds rather than property, which the federal government had taxed in the past.[76] The Revenue Act of 1862 established the first national inheritance tax and added a progressive taxation structure to the federal income tax, implementing a tax of five percent on incomes above $10,000.[77] Congress later further raised taxes, and by the end of the war, the income tax constituted about one-fifth of the revenue of the federal government. To collect these taxes, Congress created the Office of the Commissioner of Internal Revenue within the Treasury Department.[78] The federal income tax would remain in effect until its repeal in 1872.[79]

In 1894, Democrats in Congress passed the Wilson-Gorman tariff, which imposed the first peacetime income tax. The rate was 2% on income over $4,000, which meant fewer than 10% of households would pay any. ($4,000 was 19.3 times the 1894 nominal GDP per capita of $207.23; the corresponding income in 2021 is $1.3M.) The purpose of the income tax was to make up for revenue that would be lost by tariff reductions.[80] In 1895 the United States Supreme Court, in its ruling in Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co., held a tax based on receipts from the use of property to be unconstitutional. The Court held that taxes on rents from real estate, on interest income from personal property, and other income from personal property (which includes dividend income) were treated as direct taxes on property, and therefore had to be apportioned (divided among the states based on their populations). Since apportionment of income taxes is impractical, this had the effect of prohibiting a federal tax on income from property. However, the Court affirmed that the Constitution did not deny Congress the power to impose a tax on real and personal property, and it affirmed that such would be a direct tax.[81] Due to the political difficulties of taxing individual wages without taxing income from property, a federal income tax was impractical from the time of the Pollock decision until the time of ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment (below).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States#:~:text=President%20Abraham%20Lincoln%20and%20the%20United%20States%20Congress%20introduced%20in%201861%20the%20first%20personal%20income%20tax%20in%20the%20United%20States.

If you want to know more, try this:

Abraham Lincoln and the Tariff

https://www.abrahamlincolnsclassroom.org/abraham-lincoln-in-depth/abraham-lincoln-and-the-tariff/

And EXACTLY what did ANY of his policies do to help you in your personal life?

I'd venture to say none did. And yet he didn't notice at the time. And then he bungled his COVID response, and left a mess for Biden.

Because it’s only a nazi symbol in deranged democrats heads not in reality

You are wrong. That symbol is called the Odal rune:



The Odal rune was used by the SS to symbolise several values of central importance to Nazi ideology. It was based on the Elder Futhark ? or othala rune, with further addition of "feet" or "serifs". During the Second World War it was used by the 7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division "Prinz Eugen" and the 23rd SS Volunteer Panzergrenadier Division "Nederland", as well as the SS-Rasse- und Siedlungshauptamt, which was responsible for maintaining the racial purity of the SS.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_insignia_of_the_Schutzstaffel

Then why didn’t Kamala eliminate all those trump tariffs when she got in

First of all, Kamala was and still is the vice president. Like every other VP, she has no real power.

Second, when he was president, Trump did not impose across the board tariffs on imported goods. He applied selective tariffs on specific products from specific countries. Biden maintained some of them, particularly the ones on Chinese tech stuff.

But obviously, the kind of tariffs Trump is now recommending would be a disaster. Again, I'll suggest you read up on Smoot-Hawley.

Sad to say, Madeleine is dead.

Ahhh. That is interesting.

Fingers crossed. I really cannot see how any decent person could vote for Trump.

Well yes... Vought is the designer of Project 2025.

Bezos has no interest in preserving journalism. He is a lot like Musk. Both bought shiny toys and basically ruined them.

I don't think he's another Musk. Musk was always the way he is today. He spent his formative years in South Africa. And his father is beyond awful. So he didn't get a good start in life. Bezos, on the other hand, apparently comes from a nice family, and one that didn't own any emerald mines.

When Bezos bought the Post, he had no qualms about the editorial board's endorsement of Hillary rather than Trump. It was the same in 2020. Something has changed.

GS used to have a program that if you worked for them they's make you a millionaire.

Did they turn you into a galley slave first?

LOLOLOL!!

Has Drudge left the MAGA hate party?

Oh yes. That happened some time ago. By at least 2020. Maybe earlier.

How will Trump and MAGAS bring down inflation?

He says he'll do that by imposing across the board tariffs on all imported goods. That would, of course, send inflation into high gear. He doesn't know a thing about economics, and he evidently isn't listening to people who do.

His interview with the guy from Bloomberg was an embarrassment.

Excellent!!

How masochistic of them.

I doubt any women listen.

Maybe she'll wake up tonight at three...

LOLOLOLOLOL!!

That post and the thread that follows, are incredibly hostile and misogynistic.

Nasty stuff. And no, it is NOT "funny".

I agree. Very bad optics.

Yes. I suppose they're going on with it because it's his big "closing argument" speech. But we knew from the first 10 minutes that the closing argument was gonna be a mindless rant about immigrants and other people he doesn't like.

I agree. It seemed for a moment that MSNBC was going to move on from it, but no. It really is just one lie after another. And probably he'll "weave" on for another two hours.

Good chyron from MSNBC:

“Trump forgoes prompter to rant about conspiracies”

Great chyron on MSNBC:

“Trump forgoes prompter to rant about conspiracies”

Great minds!!

And now, it seems, Trumpty plans to talk about teleprompters for the next hour.

Trumpty was only two hours late today. And Melania came with him. Her accent seems to be getting thicker. I thought this crowd didn't approve of immigrants.

But it seems to be true because most people wake up to pray at 3am.

Seriously? I cannot imagine why anyone would think that.

Its simple, you have the working and up into the middle class v the elitist college educated class which is now the dem party......But dems are in denial and just can't figure it out.....

Don't look now, but most college educated people ARE middle class. And there are far more of them than there were in the last century.

That list is enough to make anyone leave.

Wow! It certainly is!! A truly revolting bunch.

"We're going to have to do things to create an incentive for New Yorkers to stay. I mean, they're leaving New York. ... And rich people are leaving —

That is not really true. Read this:

Trump: People are leaving New York ‘like never before’

https://apnews.com/united-states-government-general-news-f682dc6e25634e60bff21ac0db594ebb

And now the irritating Melania is speaking about just that, and introducing Donnie. Why is her accent thicker than ever?

Yes, exactly.