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After the last hour, I am signing off.....maybe for quite awhile. Hope those of you left have fun with all of these people coming out from under their rocks to "enlighten" us.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I mailed FG and Seahag about this issue, they don't appear to be logged on right now, so be patient, they will be back.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
We have all come to learn that the truth is such a difficult thing to see.
What is that saying? Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you read? It is something like that.
Don't expect to converse much with Rich, he doesn't read very many posts, just ask the rest of the people here.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Depends on how you define leaving?
Will there be an open channel of communication between Rich and George?....of course
Will Rich be involved in day-to-day decisions or business operations?....certainly NOT
Will Rich continue to be a majority shareholder and support SEVU financially if necessary?....of course
I know this isn't from Rich, but I bet these answers are close or hope they are close.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Thanks, FrankNG for reposting a copy of THE TRUTH, I was afraid of spamming, but from you it is great.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Perfect answer...
That is what I expected you to say, AND what I wanted in plain black and white for the board to read.
Good luck with the new CEO position once SEVU is off and running with the "new" management team. Too bad you had to learn some hard lessons with SEVU, but the new company will be all the better for it.
Keep us updated on the new company and CEO position, some of here are interested. But, then again, maybe nothing should be said because some personal attackers would probably follow you there. What a bunch of LOSERS we have here that have crawled out from under the rocks, sad, sad.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
printmail01, last one, I promise.
I sure don't want you dragging up old info and old people that have already been discreditted.
I believe this Bill Holland has been talked about before here about his "literary license" that he loves to use.
Maybe he is like you, a personal problem with Rich. Oh, darn it, there I go again slamming you. Somebody shoot me twice.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Another question again...
Nice to hear from you again.
It is puzzling to me and others why so many shares have been "given away" over the past year or so and still no money in the company?
Also the convertible debentures seem to have been gotten very cheap, ~14 cents/share. This is somewhat puzzling to the rest of us, any info/comments?
JMHO, TAfirehawk
My question again...
How many SecureViews are shipped currently?
The PR stated steady flow on May 7, 2001, but were there any before?
The PR stated 20,000 units in the next 90-120 days, but is that above and beyond the May 7th steady flow?
I think we all deserve a little more detail.
But, the PR was actually great. Good info and stated plainly.
And how does the original 5,000 inside and 5,000 outside fit into this?
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Thanks for clearing this up.
Most of this is old news anyway for "the regulars" here.
Glad to see you reading this some more, we have some questions that maybe you could answer without compromising yourself or the company. I will go back and get the old posts.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
OH STOP IT PRINTMAIL01.
I CAN'T CALL YOU THE THINGS I WANT TO, BUT CAN YELL WITH MY CAPS LOCK ON.
READ THE FREAKING POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!
I said I also asked the question and got no reply. Rich doesn't read all the posts here and I haven't emailed him on it yet. I don't think it is earth shattering and he is still busy at SEVU.
Please just shoot me in the head and put me out of my misery, where is that darn ignore button we have talked about before.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Go get them Rich!!!EOM
FrankNG, where is the filing that any of these shares sold?
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I would expect some good news in a PR this week or next.
SEVU was pushing harder than before to get signed contracts when I was down in St. Pete visiting with George and Rich. They should be able to get "hard" documentation from at least one customer now that 10,000 or 20,000 units WILL BE READY.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Actually, I knew last year was a "disaster" quite a ways back. This was easily deducible from the information that came out last year or lack thereof. So, NO, I wasn't surprised at all.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Amen, Brettin....
that is worth repeating just so nobody misses this....
Just remember longs if you sell your shares it's the pathetic, conniving, misleading shorts who are eagerly awaiting to buy them. The company had problems, the stock price reflects this, lets give the new management a chance. The future is SecureView and it is selling.
If you have stayed in "the game" this long, don't leave now, the upward climb is just beginning.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Rich is not my fishing buddy and God help us if you find a way to "throw" him out of SEVU.
If you would please click on my name and follow the link to all my posts, you would see that I have critism and questions like the rest of the people here. Don't confuse my representation of the facts as I have personally witnessed as strickly "sticking up for McBride".
I could say the same about you alwasy bashing McBride and SEVU, not sure why you do that, but I won't ask that question.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Very good point ub43, I hope we can get some answers about the debenture dilution.
I am not concerned about diluting the stock, as I have posted before, but am concerned about the 14 cents per share and how the upcoming PP will work out in a per share price.
Personally, I think a minimum of 50 cents per share should be required of the 1.5 million PP.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
BillBranum, what a great fortune teller he is....NOT
Now we see why nobody listens to anybody on any message board. Let this be a lesson to all.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
That is what we need....Madhatter as COO....NOT
Give me a break, might as well hire me as CEO then!!!
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Rich is obviously still involved with SEVU. The transition period is not complete yet. But don't believe that George is going to say anything he doesn't believe in, I was very impressed with him after spending some time in St. Pete.
I do believe that Rich is looking for a new office once new management becomes less "new". But again be sure that he will only be a phone call away at all times.
Doug, if you only bothered to look at this entire history a bit more closely, you would understand that saying Rich lied is not simply black & white.
It is a shame A@P, et. al. have created/twisted problems in production into "lies". But I am sure that all the negative people out there will just write me off as a "blind long".
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I have seen some progress with my own eyes, I was in St. Pete two weeks ago. I spent Monday at the office and Saturday with George and Rich. The rest of the time I stayed away from the office as the 10K stuff was real busy and I was vacationing.
I wish I could give some "good" info to you and everybody else, but I can't. They did not show me any paperwork to back up their discussions with me and I didn't ask for it.
This probably doesn't help much because I can't be real specific because I didn't ask for copies of documents that I could post on this message board!!! Like they would EVER let that happen!!!
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Where was that BIG UGLY day for the SEVU stock? Did I miss something or did it close up today? Hmmm.... So much for some peoples' guesses.
Where was the crash today? Anybody? I am sure some SUPER negative person can come up with some lame excuse for the green numbers today.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
printmail01, I also asked the question about the actual number of units that will be shipping as I was confused by the two PR's numbers. I have not heard a reply from Rich or anybody else at SEVU. See post #7418.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I am sure a vulture attorney may take one to make a buck or two, but no "real" attorney would touch that with a 10 foot pole and not because of the asset crap. There aren't many courts of law out there that give simpathy to investors of BB stocks. Now a car wreck and physical handicap is a different story. Kinda feels like we have been in a car wreck, but no physical handicap has resulted for a vulture attorney to attach themselves to.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Ok, one more....Bill give me a break.
Bill, where in the 10K did it say that SEVU owned the Jag, come on man, they already have 4 company vehicles I think. That is where the money is I believe, definitely not the Jag, geesh. You are just plain wrong on that one.
Bill, the loan? Didn't Golfnut cover this in post 7625? Please read that one again and the 10K if needed.
Bill, about the number of shares. I saw the listing at 12 million some odd shares, but please look at the 10K again, specifically attachment F4. I would post a copy of it here, but it is too wide. The breakdown shows 17 million shares at the end of 2000. I am not sure why the difference, but once again you are jumping to conclusions and presenting fact that MAY not be true.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
saltonpepper the PR agency wasn't even taking full commission!!! I don't remember where the info is located at, maybe FG can find it easy.
Question number two about the consultants and professionals is a good one, but I doubt that it gets answered. Maybe Rich will enlighten us, but probably not.
My fingers are getting tired and I better go to bed, see everybody tomorrow, same bat-channel, same bat-time!!!!
JMHO, TAfirehawk
That is fine wolfman, just didn't see that in the original post. The post reads as stating fact, and that can be very dangerous.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Good point bigbizz, we should talk about the future more than the past. The picture isn't as rosy as you make it sound, but not a ROW OF RED FLAGS as others portray it either.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FrankNG, doubt that YOU get a ride on the yacht/sportsfisher, which is too bad, b/c it is AWESOME.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I would love to wager a little on the guessing on class-action suits....bet that none will actually get "officially" filed in ANY court of law. Now what shall we wager....SEVU stock, no that is way to valuable right now, maybe Microsoft!!!
JMHO, TAfirehawk
ub43, you don't even know what those are for or how Rich gets his cars and boats. Be careful on what you portray as fact and have no info to back it up. Every message on this board is SAVED, even the "deleted" ones and they can be used in a court of law as evidence.
About your question, can SEVU afford this stuff?.... YES, the advertising that is on tons of stuff in St. Pete is great. And the R.L. McBride PR firm was not taking full commission as they could have from SEVU. Where did this come from? Rich of course!!! Can SEVU afford this?
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Brettin, thanks for some sanity around here. I waited to read all of today's posts at once tonight and was wondering where all the crazy people came from and the sane people went.
Wonderful info with LINKS and past history data, amazing how the longs work at research like this, but the "others" just say..."liar, liar pants on fire". And with that, they are right and the longs are wrong, ok, whatever.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
wolfman, please supply links to the facts you portray in saying that the lawsuits and SEC investigation is starting. When are these starting? Who is filing lawsuits, you?
Provide links/sources or retract such "factual" statements.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
No guarantees at all, but how has the new management team lied to us? Answer me that one DOUG.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I agree bigbizz.
Don't understand why everybody is acting so surprised. They act like the sun isn't coming up tomorrow. It is now official, but OLD NEWS, the stock price already reflects this info. Why did the price drop Thursday? Some manipulation, but made easy because everybody knew the numbers were awful.
Rich lead us to believe SecureView was off and running last year, lets have some faith in new management. Has George lied to us? I think NOT. Rich is still at the company, but it is George's *ss on the line now.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
That's a laugher LaShark. Like this will affect the probation, ok, good knee slapper.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Of course this is a good investment, just wish I had more cash to buy right now. Wall Street looks at the future prospects of a company and very little at the past.
IF (another big one dk76) SecureView ships like they say and some bigger deals come in, well, up, up and away we go. Right now those IF's seem huge, but time will tell when this company can deliver.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Did I hear angels singing for joy? This is the end of printmail01, but we were having so much fun....NOT!!!
JMHO, TAfirehawk
How would you know how a long feels? printmail01, you don't even have any stock.
Yes the numbers are bad, yes we were mislead....BUT WE ALL EXPECTED THIS, so go fly a kite.
JMHO, TAfirehawk