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I think kim wont announce success of pure spider silk.
Nothing new. Still no deals signed. as predicted a red day. Gonna be a while before we see .1 again let alone the highs from 2 years ago.
Almost done loading up. To double my share count yet again.
KBLB will be red tomorrow.
"there will never be material." finally,........NEVER BE.... MATERIAL, just cocoons.
Yes but him being busy should have occured 6-8 months ago. That is the gripe, that is the problem. Will I be happy when we have a partner, sure. Will it make the share price go up, sure. Will it make the share price stay up. NO. Will many sell, driving the price back down ABSOLUTELY. Will we then have 6-8 months of silence. YES will the share price see .07 again ABSOLUTELY. Rinse and repeat.
you clearly misunderstand. That is the problem with people like you. You dont get it.
I never said KBLB will make material. I said there is no material, no yards of silk. Why is that, why can you only show me a picture of a cocoon. That is because KBLB has no partners to turn this into cloth. And those cocoons and the value as of to date is merely 6 cents. that is 20 cents less than when the market thought they had more than simply cocoons.
Lets put it in simpler terms. KBLB has no partners, and thus the only thing that monster silk is going to be good for, as of today, no one wants. So what are we left with. A bunch (not millions) of cocoons sitting around rotting.
Partners take this to market, partners take this from a useless cocoon to a product (CLOTH).
As of today there are none. so show me where I said KBLB needs to sell T-shirts. I never did, I merely suggested a sample, to show prospective partners WHAT COULD BE if they partnered.
GOLD MINES HAVE PARTNERS that turn it into jewelry. Show me someone that A. wants this, and B. will turn this into cloth?
PARTNERS TURN IT INTO CLOTH - PARTNERS, PARTNERS - NOT KBLB ON THEIR OWN.
BUT KBLB HAS a few monster silk cocoons on a shelf right now, and KBLB has no one that is willing to step up and turn it into raw material. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
Eggs in jars is not millions of cocoons.
Actually, as of today no one can mass produce it, not even kblb. because if they could, they would. And we would know that they could because there would be cloth in yards and yards of this stuff. But there isnt. Just jars of cocoons.
Clothing. Monstersilk is for clothing. Those are the partners that will sign, those are the partners that will use this stuff. Monstersilk as of today is nothing, that is what it is. Nothing.
Show me a technical textile company that is using monstersilk, then you can say it is a technical textile.
KBLB was not forced by booth parameters to tape pictures to a wall. This is pointless misinformation.
Who says they have a use for it. All theg did was sign a non disclosure agreement. This lets them look at it and see if they have a use for it. As of today, no partnership is signed with any defense contractors, thus as of today, they dont have a use for it. They may, and they may not.
You are assuming they have a use for it, all we kniw is they think they may have a use for it. But after some conversations and undrstanding of the material and what it is and how it functions, they may quickly realize..... They dont have a use for it.
Wanting to think and hope they have a use for it and them actually having a use for it are two vastly different concepts.
That doesnt mean gen 2 technical textile, plus we dont have a deal with a defense contractor, so it is improper to claim technical textile. Once we get a deal, with at least 1 partner then we will know what this will be used for. Right now, as of today, It is being used for NOTHING.
This is a prime example of people reading more into than what was said.
KBLB doesnt have a technical fiber yet. MS is only Gen 1 and only a bit better than regular silk.
No go to the trade show, but be prepared, and be creative, do your research, and plan accordingly. He clearly didnt do that. He showed he was a rookie. You want to hang with the big boys, you got to do better than that. And no, he doesnt need to buy a 2500 square foot display set up.
I have seen highschool science fair set ups way more impressive and it would cost less than 500 dollars.
The fact is he is ill prepared, he thought, since this fiber was the holy grail of fibers, he would merely have to create it and the world would flock. He is realizing that he is going to need to pound the pavement and be a sales person.
Maybe they started out wanting it, but then when they actually got ahold of it, it didnt work how they thought it would, or it didnt integrate into their product how they envisioned it. Thus, instead of trying to create, or think of all the different uses for monster silk. Use this product to do what you know it will do. Make better silk shirts than currently on the market. Fiddle with other transgenics for more unique uses once you actually have them.
THE REST WILL COME.
Once you have a base then you can start thinking of all these unique ways to use silk. You must walk before you can run. This is being unfolded in a very illogical way.
Good, because i got my core that dwarfs most on this board, and because of how the company is run, will flip to keep adding to that core. So if you think i will somehow lose when this goes up, you are grossly mistaken.
No need. Its the fact that it was done at all even for a moment, that is the point.
First, I never claimed that KBLB was not in fact there. And it will be the visual aids and tangible aids that impress investors and the media. Seeing, and touching will impress people. Case in point Casper, got to hold a worm in his hands. Think if he and the media/investors could hold a cloth of regular silk and then hold a cloth of monster silk. Kim talking will just be white noise. I would much rather Kim have that simple comparison at his booth, than rely on his people skills to draw a crowd.
Ah, but we just reached the whole point. Professional presentations are that first impression. I would not walk up to that booth, with that person or that set up. Nothing is appealing.
Have 2 attractive girls with monster silk shirts on, a professional display and a comparison sample. Then once the question comes out "how did you do this" then kim can open his mouth, but even then, you want someone who is not out to impress you with his choice of words.
You want someone who can adequately, but basically communicate what has been done. Show the market the simplest and most natural use of this fiber - shirts. The rest will come.
Bottom line is that it failed on two major fronts. 1. presentation to draw people in and 2. charismatic sales person that can speak plain english to the lay person. 1. Visual aids - pictures would draw people in. and 2. just remember Kim has had monster silk for a while and hasn't been able to land a deal, so you do the math.
Casper, i must know. Is that crisscrossed tape used to hold up two large photos? An easle would have been a more professional solution. well, its all about first impressions. 6th grade science fair displays even know to not used criss crossed tape. All well, i am sure the suits you mentioned didnt even notice it.
Kblb, truly a penny operation.
swatches, swatches, we dont need no stinking swatches. This is so big that everyone will just sign aN agreement and then figure out if it works. the first swatch you will get, is the shirt you buy at a major retailer this summer.
Almost 3 million in trades, come on buyers. This thing is primed to start a huge run. Imo of course.
Yeah, were going to get 6 partnership contracts signed on kims desk by friday. Next weeks news, and the share price goes to 1.25 and never comes back. Wont be long now, right? Just a few more weeks, then we are all rich.... Well those of us with enough shares.... So in my opinion, load up, only 20 minutes left today.
Its the same items from 2 years ago. Still no cloth. No swatches, no samples to take away. again, unprepared. Cant say that i am shocked.
Kblb wont have anything for at least 6 months. Partnership or pss. Plus, nothing tangible will come from this trade show. Waste of time and money.
Those that bought today, will have to wait a while just to break even.
The run is over. Tomorrow will be red. Probably close near .065
All this was, was hype created because of a trade show.
motivation can not cure being out of your league. Kim has no idea how to be in the public eye, hence, all the criticism. He should do what he does best, sit behind a desk and pour over the contracts. not standing at a trade show, he is awkward at best. I fail to see any benefit, also most walk away from these trade shows no better off.
But hey when you got no real news, focusing on stuff like this keeps hope alive.
Or it could just be kim standing there with a mediocre display, with the same pictures we have all already seen. I think everyone will see he was ill prepared for this trade show, in comparison to how trade shows run.
His lack of marketing and business saviness will be exposed. remember putiing yourself out there, if done improperly can hurt you. Past history has shown how the market reacts when he puts himself out there and is not prepared.
Lots less going on here than meets the eye. IMO.
These prices will be the new ceiling IMO
Patience will persevere here.... Cheaper prices will be there for those that don't buy into the pumpers
baseless hype.
Kblb is at prices comparable to 2 years ago.
Great point, pumpers with pie in the sky predictions based in no reality, actually hurt the stock.
Exactly. The pps is a direct result of poor management decisions. Monster silk has been on the table for a long time and Kim has failed to do the one thing he is around for, get deals, so the company can do what it was designed for..... Making money.
So now its 4/30 give or take a few days..... Cant wait till we are give or take a few weeks next week. Red, we wont have news that will move the share price back to pre conference call levels. Looks like some major shareholders wanted out this past week. Not panic selling. But readjusting as this is going to be a while before an agreement is reached.
Also a promise of news.... How can one do that unless they have information before the general public, especially, if you are not the one creating the prs.
Something doesnt add up.
More speculation. It is not guaranteed that any of the 5000 insertions will yield anything of value. Just because zinc fingers are used does not guarantee success.
Didnt we learn that speculation is not really the best approach.
Gotta love the faith in KIM based on his NDA conference call. Every time that guy opens his mouth this takes a dive bomb.
THANKS! I am sure those of us that did will be.
By design of course.
D but most likely A.
That may be so, but past history suggests its going to be a while for any gen 2 news. Monstersilk partnerships may occur before then..... I sure hope so. But i would not count, or bank on it.
That is fine, but the fact remains, you will not get a pr updating you on what happened with jan 19 micro insertions pr. So chose your own path. Good luck.
Boooooyahhhhh
Were those knock ins or knock outs. The way i understand it, just as first mike explained, those were knock outs. Well you want news of that result, you just got it. If they can now move to knock ins, ie final step to creating a transgenic, then of course the knock outs worked, because you need a gap to put that knock in.
So there you have a result. Knock outs worked, Next step knock ins. Ie just happened, sit and wait to see if one or more transgenic is created.