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Funny; current volume is just over 300mil normally by this time of day its close to 2billion.
Got quite on this board all of a sudden; what happened?
No I am implying they want more at .0001 and they wish to keep it there until the well runs dry. And I agree with you on all other points (read my other posts) this is a free market (for the most part) a great forum and there is freedom of speech in this great country. By all means CYNIC; keep up the great work from your angle and I as your opponent (the opposing force)(injected humor)will continue to present the other side.
The new OPEC; hmmmm, good idea
Jeremy it's only conjecture, to stir up the pot here because the bashers love the attention. However; it is possible, I believe it will happen at some point and I'm basically a very positive person who just so happens to like this company and the people associated with it and if you review any of my previous post, I think you will realize just how much that is true. Call me a fool if you want but I continue to add to my position and its because of my own DD and what I as a business person believes is happening and not on others opinions. I just love to stir things up a bit; in fact, this particular board is perfect for it.
Positive spin for all those calling this stock a POS. The last two days have shown a significant drop in daily volume from previous weeks. It's because all the buyback that DM has been doing has run its course; there are no more shares left to buyback, it's now just the day bangers supporting volume with their shares. This is why the bashers of this stock are out in full force; they are try to get us believers to get up off our holdings in this great ground floor opportunity.
JMHO
I bet this post gets deleted
Read my post #27776 for my explanation
It's not insider info; it's the same stuff he tells everyone who calls him, it's the twisted ways in which the info gets relayed to everyone.
Morpheus is right; do your own DD and yes call DM he will talk to you, but he won't give specifics only generalizations but it's enough for you to make your own judgement. Look at everything we know and especially what has transpirred in the last week since financials where released and try and think like a business person would who is trying to take a small fledgling of a company into a market leader.
The people hear talking up the negatives have an agenda all their own, it's called greed. If you look closer you'll notice that starting this past Tuesday those people have come out in full force with new members to their tribe. You might also notice their attacks are becoming more personal. Think about it and the light switch will come on.
We are truely on the ground floor and the future is bright; like a previous post, don't expect anything overnight.
My last post for the day; I told you in post #27776 that I would keep you upto date if any response came from DM to the email. Well here it is below; I have not and won't call him at this time because I believe I know whats happening and whats going to happen (review post #27776); the whole point of the first email was an attempt to get DM to respond in writting, which it doesn't look like he is willing to do and to me it doesn't matter. I've said it before the bread trail is being laid for those of us smart enough to see it.
As I stated in previous post; I have for privacy, removed personal info from the body and header of email.
For the curious DM has all my contact info and has had it and it includes: 5 phone numbers two of which are cells, two fax numbers and three email addresses also my business address. Just incase I resent all in a response email.
You asked me not to call you. It would take much less time on both our parts to have a five minute call than it would for me to try to figure out some narrative for you. In the event you would like to speak, please forward me a number and I will call.
Best regards,
DM
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From: XXXXXX XXXXXXX [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:51 PM
To: Dennis McLaughlin
Subject: RE: I'm a Bit Concerned
Dennis,
I’’ll forgive you for ignoring my last email; you can appreciate that as I am not one to be ignored, ask anyone who knows me.
Well I'll monitor for awhile longer but can not respond so: GLTY and Go Strong EVFL
and those famous words by my estemed Governator
I'll be back.
Appetite and ikauai
I only have two post left, including this one so I'm going to try and answer two of you. Appetite; your correct, if everyone does the DD you'll find that and when crude reaches and sustains $75.00 /barrel then bio fuels becomes very profitable and thats exactly where its going.
iKauai, I and others have done the math; it is not only possible but very fessible, further more at current evaluation it makes great business sense as well as economic sense to buyback and merge instead of R/S.
JMHO
Review my post #27776
And lets not forget Evolution Fuels; oh wait thats a future headline.
ACE, now look at what you did; you started a whole new slew of R/S talkers but this time they added the word m-a-s-s-i-v-e....
Ace; your leaving money on the table, don't forget the goal for DM is to reach that magic.25 for his planned uplisting.
I have set my sell orders for 10mil at .01 just so I can celebrate reaching a penny, my next 10 mil is at .24 follwed by another 10mil at .32 and the remainder is at .99 because like you when I hit the .24 I am set for life at .32 my offspring are setup and beyond that I don't really care.
IMHO, that (.25) should be our mental target in all conversation and may the force be with us.
It's my opinion this will be happening and I firmly believe it can be done without the R/S so many others predict but it all happens with good timing of which other factors determine but I believe it's not out of the question to see a definit attempt at this in six months.
In any situation in this world there are proponants and opponants, each with there own conspiracy theory or Cindarella story; it's what makes our market work so well and it's almost a 1 to 1 ratio. It's true for awhile there wasn't any news when maybe there should have been, however; if you look at the news over the last week and things that have been reported in the past, there is a definit clear pattern and only one logical explanation. If you recall before last week the naysayers were out in force, last week it almost came to a halt (they had to analize the affect the news had on the general populous. Now that its done; and there seems to be new era of no news, it becomes a new oppurtunity.
The problem is not that there is opponants but that everyone (except for a few) want instant closure. That ain't going to happen
I just find it intresting the patterns in peoples reactions and since my mind has worked that way all my life; those are the things I look for and inject my point of view. Patterns in this board, this company and DM, are all very interesting and I also believe they tell alot, especially about the future.
Darn; I thought I was buying into instant success...
It's all DM's fault; wait do I need proof to back up that claim? I think not....he and Obama are conspiring against the world and all EVFL believers.
Okay people it's not meant to be serious just injecting some dark humor because I'm bored, at work, the day is beautiful and I don't want to be here
I have not called out anyone in particular however if you look at post from a few; its the same retoric over and over, it really does get old after awhile. I ffor weeks you preach the same message, it's no longer concern.
If you are watching close enough the bashing is starting to show up under new acronyms with the same lines....they refuse to see whats really happening. Really at this point you have to wonder what the motives are.
It would be interesting to see comparisons of L2's over last couple weeks to see if any trend can be spotted i.e. ratio buyers to sellers...etc.
There is no volume today
Not reaching if the goal is .25 for that upper tier listing...
Come on people lets think bigger; from the look of things EVFL is....
I was at hmmmmmmmm weeks ago when I was trying to decide if I should buy. Now I'm at Ah Haaaaaaaaaaa; need to buy more. I did find it funny, I even went back and read all the rules just to make sure it wasn't me. Oh well except for the minority here (which we don't realy care about)(well except maybe just to have them around to yank on their chain) the rest of us are very positive and long on EVFL. Oh; I'm going to add an acronym at the end of each post from now on, maybe it will help. Before deleting please see below....
<IMHO>
Looks like EVLN is raising 50mil. and my guess funding EVFL as well as building the infrastructure to mass produce Biofuel which is what EVLN does anyway (or is supposed to) while EVFL is focused on the resale of the products through its entities (Willie's and others soon to come online. This is looking more like a well developed family of companies positioned to maximize profit potential within the market sector. Way to go EVFL/EVLN and DM.
Great post; that should cure the appeitite for a little bit anyway.
Microsoft and others did it without R/S and look at their O/S and A/S. The possitives outway the negatives in this one. Go EVFL
Finally somebody gets it right
Wrong; I'm not trying to burst your bubble, nobody can be more stoked and possitive about this stock and company then I, but you need to know all the facts. It seems alot of people here today have taken the PR today and yesterday to mean that an uplisting has taken place; not yet folks. Read the rules and regulations. It is just official notice to FINRA that EVFL has adhered to just the first part of the equation. There are two tiers one at .25 which they must achieve and hold for three months along with what they did this whole week to get FINRA to even review for uplisting. The 1.00 level requires yet another step, full compliance with outside auditing.
We are not there yet but we are certainly on our way. I would expect to see PR of a buyback next but don't expect it to soon, followed by an anouncement of a merger most likely with EVLN.
In that case; I'm betting on black, oil that is, Texas tea and BIOFUELS.
You can count on it
It is alot even for me; pennies are something I play with and I have been fortunate in my life and career, mostly by shear luck and a great supportive family and quite possibly some Goddly influence. I was smart enough back in 1979 to start my retirement and in 1994 I bought my first computer and started to trade for fun; I got hammered in the beginning and learned many leasons and still to this day I make a few bad calls (8 this year) and then there are the good ones. I believe in this company the product and management (and that is all parties not a decision based on DM's performance alone) more importantly the economic and governmental atmosphere for companies such as this one. If your a poker player like myself; I think we are holding a straight flush so I'm all in with this one.
As it should be in pinks; I just back from Vegas, spent four days there with family and friends and only took what I could lose and guess what, I lost. But EVFL I am feel pretty confident is going to pay off. I'm not saying everyone is going to be rich but everyone will be satisfied with their decision to invest here.
It's always a crap shoot with pinks; but I think we are going to see that magic .25 but it also must be the right timing because it has to be maintained over time. Based on other info we all know, I think by February/March we should be getting there. This would coincided with the planned operation of production facility and I also think we will see other retail operations being anounced around the same time. They have to have more then Willy's place to sell what they will be capable of producing.
Looking (quick glance at bottom lines)at the financials it appears that EVFL is more then a 100% stronger then same time last year.
“Just My Opinion and Thoughts”
I started to invest in this company about a month ago and have since continued to accumulate all at .0001; originally it was to flip though I never tried only because I started to do DD and the more I found the more I liked. After a couple weeks had gone by and watching the chatter on several boards; I decided it was time to step up and take things to the next level so I did call and talk with DM (only proof is in the copy of email below where I refer to our conversation).
It was a brief conversation in which a couple of my concerns where addressed:
1. A reverse split
2. With the current governmental environment and the politically connected board members, are you seeking government funding of any kind
3. What can I expect in the near future for growth and expansion
Those where the only questions I asked due to my time; DM’s answers:
1. “This is not a consideration at this time” (I think everyone knows this from other posters on this board).
2. Kind of walked around this one, “We are looking at all possibilities”
3. Again danced around this one, “The company is stronger then it was three years ago and there is absolutely no need to worry, we are not going anywhere”.
Dm went on to elaborate further:
“Peoples concerns about dilution; well this is a fact, it’s how we raise capitol, it is what businesses do. It would not be out of the question to consider the possibility of a buy back and/or a reverse merger in the future”.
Still after the financial release I was left feeling empty and somewhat let down; only because I had expected more then what we got, which led me to send the email you see below and note DM’s reply which he has yet to fulfill. I will keep you posted on this.
I think without divulging to much info; we have been left crumbs of information for us to pickup on and make decisions. It seems to me that since I have been following this board and all the posts; especially those which claim they have talked to or emailed or text DM, the info and the pattern is the same. Things are looking up for Evolution Fuels and the future of this company. I firmly believe DM is doing his best not to fail though to some of us it may seem that way, I think mostly because we have come accustomed to quick gratification. Take the Dot Com’s out of the picture and how many companies are there that where overnight successes?
There are two ways to achieve the OTC tier status DM would like to be part of with EVFL. One; a reverse split of magnitude, which I am confident DM and the board agree this is not in the best interest of the company and share holders.
Two; a buy back which if funding came into the picture, is not that expensive at these levels and a reverse merger with EVLN currently at $5.00 per share.
Scenario two instant success for the stock price; the way I choose to believe is in the works.
Okay that’s done; now how do they maintain that price, continue to build value and increase share holder confidence.
Expansion and revenue growth and production.
The evidence for all three of these is there just open your eyes.
I don’t think DM wishes to fail at this nor do I think the powerful board members would tolerate it. It would ruin DM for the rest of his life and the people he has brought into this are not accustomed to failure.
I suggest everyone stop with the bashing and bickering and allow this to unfold; whats a couple more months going to hurt, give it until the end of the year, it’ll be here before you know it. I think by then things will be much clearer and we will all be much happier.
I invest in pennies and subs the same way I gamble, with no more then I am willing to lose. That way I can’t get upset and if goes right; well hell, what a bonus.
I posted to this board for the first time yesterday so noone here knows me so for those of you who agree with me great, those who don’t; well, I don’t care. It may interest some of you to know that I hold 100mil shares of this company; so I would love to see this thing move.
Below is the most recent email correspondence I have had with DM. I’m hoping he will respond so I can share with each of you. For my own privacy I have removed personal info from the header and text of the email. The purpose of the email below was two fold; for more concrete confirmation of what I believe is happening and to get info (even if Vague) in writing, which I know as a business person to be a stronger commitment then anything verbal.
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I will respond to this tonight.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:01 PM, " > wrote:
Dennis,
We spoke only once on the phone and out of consideration for your time and that I knew you had been getting inundated with emails, texts and calls; I kept the conversation short, now I’m thinking I should have been more persistent. I left the phone call feeling somewhat comfortable in my decision to invest and continued investing in EVFL and you. To date I have invested more then most would in a sub-penny stock; I’ll admit I did get somewhat caught up in the dreams of prosperity I truly thought this company would provide in it’s value.
Today I am concerned due to what appears to be a halt in trading; I wonder what this means? Your financials on Monday don’t indicate anything of value or a company that is moving to add value.
I feel as though you should at least take a few moments and lay out your business plan for me and tell me how you plan on achieving growth and value without destroying the share holders investments. It may not mean much to you; it’s not your money and you could easily just through your arms up and say, well that didn’t work what next, leaving us holding an empty bag of tricks. I’m sitting here now with 10,000 dollars of what I’m beginning to feel is worthless stock. As I have told you; I believe in the market and government environment for this type of product and company and also think the rising cost of crude will very shortly makes this a viable and highly profitable business to be in, my only concern now is that I have invested in the right company and person to get the job done.
Please do me a favor; don’t call me because I am a busy man having helped to take my company from 5mil. per year to over 100mil. per year in just five short years, so I know it can be done; but you must be willing and know how to get it done and now I’m not sure you do. Like I said take a couple moments and respond via email; it can be brief and only needs to tell me what your plan is over the next year because if it has to extend out beyond that then I will know I need to find more competent and viable companies in the same business to give my money to as well as my abilities if needed.
Thank you for the clarification and lesson; who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
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This report seems to state only 11 billion + as the O/S not the 20 billion we thought; maybe buyback has been happening?
Does anyone else see what I see?