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No need. I'll just text dittoheads46800, which I reserved for him earlier today. I tried fatsackosh*t, but the system rejected it for some reason or other.
Tomorrow: I'll input whinyboy for G. Beck and waaaytoodumb for Hannity!
Ad hominem dismissal of authors is no response. If you have facts to back up what you claim, let's see them. But first get a good night's sleep. I know you don't want to miss "Fox and Friends" in the morning!
Gov spending was the ONLY spending that was going to happen from the time the economic crisis started. No private sector demand requires gov spending, or we slide into deeper recession or depression. You conservatives harbor too many myths.
You are wrong about tax cuts and revenue:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/26/kbh-tax-cuts-revenues/
"The notion that cutting taxes somehow — magically — increases government revenues is a myth that won’t die. “The claim that tax cuts pay for themselves…is contradicted by the historical record,” reported the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, which showed that revenues grew twice as fast in the 1990s, when taxes were raised, than in the 1980s, when taxes were cut. FactCheck.org called a claim like Hutchison’s “highly misleading” and stated the obvious fact that “we can’t have both lower taxes and fatter government coffers.”
“[E]verything you’ve heard about how revenues have boomed since the Bush tax cuts is wrong,” economist Paul Krugman wrote, noting that government revenues climbed steadily through the Clinton administration, then plunged dramatically following the 2001 Bush tax cuts. And falling revenues during tax-cutting Republican administrations means growing debt:
Sorry, but the 'wagon's' wheels fell off in large part due to tax cuts without spending cuts. Your theory also doesn't hold up in light of historical facts:
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/tab/article/
Stop whining and hire yourself a decent tax accountant.
That 5% didn't keep people from making money in the market then and won't in the future for the reasons I stated. And I'll post where I choose, bernie.
Anyone who can't 'handle' an extra 5% on LT gains or who doesn't know how to 'shelter/manage income over $200K deserves whatever pain they self inflict. Sorry we've turned away from the tax cut and spend policy that tanked the economy. Where were the deficit hawks then? Funny how the stock market has performed over the past year or so huh? Anyone on the right predict it?
What are you smoking? Bush tax cuts haven't expired yet on upper brackets. LT gains tax hasn't gone up either. FAUX 'Business' News is not a reliable source of info!
"If you like paying FAT taxes into Obamanomics' penalties for short term capital gains...."
Nothing has chnanged for the coming tax year. So short term gains still taxed at your tax bracket rate, which was reduced one year ago for singles making up to 200K, 250K for couples,
Proposed increase from 15% to 20% for LT capital gains likely won't apply to 2010 tax year. In any case that was the rate during the Clinton years. Rate was reduced to 15% in 2003.
Compare the performance of the stock market, new job creaton and overall economic perfromance with the higher Clinton rate to that of the Bush years. Facts are stubborn things!
Capital Gains Tax Rates
Short-term capital gains (STCG) One year or less Ordinary income tax rates up to 35%
Long-term capital gains (LTCG) More than one year 5% for taxpayers in the 10% and 15% tax brackets (zero percent starting in 2008)
15% for taxpayers in the 25%, 28%, 33%, and 35% tax brackets
I registered petsmart. A poster confirmed that it worked. I chose it so that I could "work it' as my account.
Misinformation, the mother's milk of wingers!
1999 CNN interview controversy
There was talk of a potential run in the 2000 presidential race by Gore as early as January 1998.[50] Gore discussed the possibility of running during a March 9, 1999 interview with CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer. In response to Wolf Blitzer's question: "Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley?", Gore responded:
I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be. But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.[51]
Former UCLA professor of information studies, Philip E. Agre and journalist Eric Boehlert argued that three articles in Wired News led to the creation of the widely spread urban legend that Gore claimed to have "invented the Internet," which followed this interview.[52][53][54] In addition, computer professionals and congressional colleagues argued in his defense. Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn stated that "we don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he 'invented' the Internet.
Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet."[53][55] Cerf would also later state: "Al Gore had seen what happened with the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act of 1956, which his father introduced as a military bill. It was very powerful. Housing went up, suburban boom happened, everybody became mobile. Al was attuned to the power of networking much more than any of his elective colleagues. His initiatives led directly to the commercialization of the Internet. So he really does deserve credit."
"so you reserving keywords and inputting them into the system for testing purposes??"
Yes, I have 50 loaded so far. Among them are all five military branches, midas, meineke, aamco, farmers(ins), quiznos, northwesternu, chevyvolt, GE-, niemenmarcus, anntaylor, petsmart, petmeds, edwardjones, limo services and personal injury lawyers for several cities. I expect that some phone #s will change after I talk with people in the organizations.
" Are reserved keywords being reported to investors as "working" keywords not actually leased yet??"
I can't speak to that. If you see any I've listed appearing in a pr then we'll all have the answer!
We don't know any more than you do. I posted my reserving schwab as a brand.
"I think it's already happened."
Good point. But I do expect a finishing kick today that will be made up of those who "don't want to be left out".
What happens tomorrow depends on the strength of the pr.
Will there be 'brand name dropping' beyond what we last saw?
Any mention of the acquistion that was alluded to?
Any forward looking 'guidance' that will entice new buyers and counteract whatever "sell on good news" takes place?
Lot of imponderables.
"can you explain the pennant flag?"
Can't help you. I'm a Chicago Cubs fan.
" am with Schwab, as I have been for many, many years.... "
I reserved their brand name yesterday. Text anytime and let us know what happens.
"Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr[1] von Braun (March 23, 1912 – June 16, 1977) was a German-American rocket scientist, astronautics engineer and space architect, becoming one of the leading figures in the development of rocket technology in Germany and the United States. He was a member of the Nazi party and a commissioned SS officer. Wernher von Braun was said to be the preeminent rocket engineer of the 20th century."
"I aimed for the stars....and hit London."
Brand name 'reserved'"
One advantage of having investment legs in each of two camps is
that in my capacitiy as a 'G' & 'Z'' investor, and Ambassador, I was able to reserve as a Brand: IONICBULB.
Begining launch day tomorrow prospects will be able to text: ionicbulb46800 and either connect to a live body or receive a call back.
LAST CHANCE TO GET CHEAPIES46800
smacktheask46800
I swear I'm going to reserve those key words and assign them to brokerages!
"I don't know any other stock on any board with any stronger combination of those two right now."
I'm 60/40 GOIG/'that bulb company'! That's my assessment of relative strength. Nice PR over there today. Real product moving toward retail deal(s)
And when I'm over there GOIG is 'that other company' nearing launch. Everybody knows exactly what is going on with whom, on both boards!
"They could have made alot of $$ with the shrs they'd accumulated.'
I think your statement holds the answer to all of the fretting that goes on over MM's and their alleged control.
Why WOULD they act against their own self-interest, assuming that profits are in their self-interest?
Since it's not LIKELY that they would, then you're left with searching for other explanations for pps moves in either direction.
"I won't be selling a single share, and I'm in at 0.005."
And I think that you represent a core of 'older money' that is every bit as 'hungry' as new money and that will provide a higher
support level than otherwise might exist.
Too many people see .10-.20-.50 on up as possible.
"..people could make a killing by registering well known keywords with Go800 and then resell them to the companies like they did with domain names back in the early internet days!!!"
NOT such a good ideas. Brand names need to be contracted by companies that posses the brand. Both Brand and Generic key words
have to be entered into a data base by Ambassadors. The words do not belong to anyone until they are contracted for and billed.
To whomever posted the suggestion to reserve key words for the military services shown below, mission accomplished!
I reserved all 5 branches yesterday in the Go800 Keyword Management System. If any of you have any 'connections' with the marketing/recruiting areas in the Pentagon and or each branch, please let me know. Any help would be appreciated AND utilized!
GO800army
GO800navy
GO800marines
GO800airforce
GO800coastguard
And here is the last appearance of my "Band of GOIGER'S" adaptation from
KING HENRY V
KING HENRY V: 'Adapted'
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/402000.html
This story shall the good investor teach his son;
And Go800™ Launch Day shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world, or at least
until the 2nd quarter earnings report,
But we on the Ihub board shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of 'GOIGERS';
For he to-day that tags the ask with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
or a much reviled basher, This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen on the Yahoo board now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That bought with us up to Go800™ Launch day.
"I bet its something with where I live in Alaska or something"
Reminds me, I locked this brand up on my Ambassador Keyword Managment Board yesterday
1989 Brand +f ALASKAAIR +f
No, I can't. You'll have to await a reply from a more MM savy poster. I know that I was skeptical when that MM appeared and the stock pps began it's now sustained rise. I did not take 'association', SEAB, to = 'causation', rising pps.
Perhaps it is, perhaps not.
SEAB, which showed up last week 'over there', is a MM that allegedly works on behalf of institutions.
We don't see them over here....yet. That might be a good sign if and when.
The other thing is that it's a B2B venture with a lot of Fortune 500 key words spoken for already, and then there's that 'launch' this Thursday.
Would be nice. But just when you think you see a pattern....you know the rest.
The ZVTK 'news' is another 'forward loooking statement' of endeavors, the success of which cannot be assured. That is what has been 'digested', which is why we're not looking at a 40+% rise as of the moment. The 'Other' has a product launch, with business allegedly in hand, just 48 hours away and with all of the attendant hype and anticipation that goes with such events.
Solid green days for both is the best we can hope for.
Neck and neck on the volume....ZVTK 185 M, 'Other' 186 M.
Not so on % gains: ZVTK + 21%, 'Other' + 52%...for the moment.
"NITE is trying to take us down."
How can that happen? The profits from that "other stock" are moving over here for buys!
5000 shares at both bid and ask. 176 M vol this one VS 166 M vol for the "other one".
Silly statement: "Sell off on the other one has begun, money will move to ZVTK!"
I'm looing at + 30% today, stabilized in mid .04's, on top of yesterday's + 85% on top of + 100% prior week on the "other one", with two days to a scheduled launch.
I'm happy that I've hung in with my ZVTK, but I don't see announcement of a CVS deal in two days. So, no, I don't see
holders of both ready to move much to ZVTK just yet. I DO see NEW ZVTK investors off of todays pr.
But, hey, you know who you are on these boards. What are you going to do with these two? Me? I'll take tandem 28%-32% moves on two holdings today, tomorrow, and......
"Receiving our first order from a major U.S. retailer like CVS would be exciting news and we are working on all fronts to make that happen."
Interesting that he would single out one of the several retailers he's mentioned.
What we don't know is whether or not sales efforts to retailers had already been made by ZVTK principals and if so whether or not they were rebuffed. Perhaps Not enough 'ammunition' from infomercials, Amazon sales and Alexa rankings.
Many have been posting about the liklihood or imminence of a retail deal. Now all we have is confirmation that they've contracted with a company to approach the retailers.
Obviously the contracted company must feel that they can deliver and I would expect that their compensation is contingent on closing retail deals.
All in all, good news. And considering the absence of substantive news directly from ZVTK, a strong step in the right direction.
.0055 on the ask as I post.
Try Go800 "God".
Do you think it's a 'brand' or a 'key word'?
If you didn't get a response it might be because
Tim Tebow is tying up the network due to apprehension
about his possible NFL draft position.
Read about your decision on the other board. Nice going! I've about used up my posts over there. Like the F. Scott Fitzgerald take? He would have been a kick-ass trader, IMO!
“The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.”
Maybe F. Scott Fitzgerald's remark can be amended to encompass the ability to recognize when two ideas are NOT opposed?
As for projected runs and dips, that's all they are. You can wait, participate and stop loss your way though the buy/sell thicket all at the same time, or you can rationalize yourself
into inaction. THOSE are real choices.
"ZVTK has already proven it can run, at this point I would rather have a million shares at .0043 for $4300, than a million shares at .03 for $30,000."
That's a false choice. Nowhere have I suggested doing what you pose as a 'rather...'
I remain long ZVTK and watchful on my holding of the stock that is running. So, I'm waiting for ZVTk to run and at the same time I avoid the incredible denial and stubborness, not to mention the 'red' in my portfolio, that some on this board are exhibiting and experiencing.
“The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.”
Maybe F. Scott Fitzgerald's remark can be amended to encompass the ability to recognize when two ideas are NOT opposed?
As for projected runs and dips, that's all they are. You can wait, participate and stop loss your way though the buy/sell thicket all at the same time, or you can rationalize yourself
into inaction. THOSE are real choices.
"One thing I have learned from years of trading these stocks is that always, always fall back down at some point, lol."
Of course they do. Your 'lol' is misplaced with me.
My entire argument boils down to protecting yourself with either some cash to take advantage of other penny opportunities, or some nerve to walk away with a small profit, or a small loss, to increase your profits or mitigate your losses with that other opportunity.
As I recall 'stubborness' was not on that ZVTK 'virtue checklist'!
I will continue to be 'here' and 'there as well. You're arguments are not mutually exclusive. It's NOT a zero sum game, but it is a game.
"but I only buy stocks on blood red days. Certainly not after big runs."
Then thank you for continuing to provide 'support' for ZVTK's pps!
I posted my take on the other stock before todays run, but after 3 days of green, only because ther was the prospect of continuing news leading up to a product launch.
There is a little 'retracement' to .028 from .033. Enough temporary 'red' for you?! Whoops, spoke too soon!
"The longs have patience, as well as "many" key's to success. Intuition, persistance, creativity, desire, influence."
Ahh, now I understand. ZVTK good. Other pennys bad.
So I can't remain long ZVTK while at the same time take all of those sterling qualities to one other investment and perhaps generate more funds to further strengthen my ZVTK holding?
Don't try and turn my argument into a character assesment or a zero sum game. It's neither.
"that stock is overbought now i wouldn't touch it. Zvtk will be huge if it does go retail bud.."
Then don't 'touch it'. But don't pretend that because it's skyrocketing that it is de facto 'overbought'. If you had applied the same DD to that one, as you presumably applied to ZVTK, then you would understand that actual news and scheduled product launches trump 'hopes'.
Lastly, I don't dispute that ZVTK will be huge if "it does go retail", bud. I do however question the wisdom of overlooking other opportunities.
My posts on this subject were meant to help fellow ZVTK investors. What exactly was your post meant to do?