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What Jrf30 logically explanation provides a clearer vision of where this might be going. That said, let me say it starts with valid shipwreck signs as I've stated (not just big pieces of wood) over and over then, if the right wreck, treasure most likely becomes the reality. This is only going to happen if the people in the field know what they're doing. Divers are divers and there are hundreds of them ready and wiling but that'a not the issue. It takes veterans with survey and hands-on shipwreck salvage experience. To my understanding, Ace Ridgley is more or less the only one. That's something one should have concern about.
Actually nothing to explain "factually". Ain't no ballast, ain't no olive jar shards, ain't no artifacts, and there sure isn't any treasure. But then many have posted a very long time ago (and on going), three boats on one spot, must be on the treasure, treasure going to be on deck. Then there were the excuses, "believe they already found it but are going to announce it on the 300 year 1715 Fleet disaster anniversary. That's past, so what's the next prediction?
Changed sites to where. Explain? If it ain't there, it ain't there. Seems rather obvious, at least to me.
"Discovery of a plate" That was not even a company discovery
"Best situation since being in business" Really? No wreck. No treasure. Thats my take on the situation. Explain if my opinion is wrong (in intelligent detail).
When you refer to "want to be's, your talking about the company - right?
Do you believe for but one moment they are finding treasure and the word wouldn't have gotten out? If you truly do believe that, then you've got allot to learn about this industry (if one can call it that). Bottom line is time will tell.
"SEAFARER GAINS THIRD TREASURE SITE" Wonder who ever wrote this grossly inaccurate statement?
Now in five plus years; no treasure at first site. No treasure at second site. No treasure at third site. Now, at least for me, the troubling question would be who's running the show out there on the water? Still believe site 3 has potential but its going to take experienced operators to bring this to a successful conclusion. At least that's my opinion but then there may be those who believe I don't know anything about shipwrecks and treasure hunting in general.
As I said a number of times as well as capted agreeing. "This dog don't hunt". Factually, that's not exactly true with the correction being made to "this dog don't find". It takes in the field professionals to run this show and make it happen. I'm not so sure that's what this company has? Of course just my own opinion. Last note; I'm not talking about paid consultants who's expertise has anything to do with technical remote sensing surveys. (Following a trail).
Winter funding rumor now a reality?
I said I'd exit but can't resist responding to your post. A whole lot of "what if's" on going. The photo although interesting is not something SFRX has found, is it? I could go on and on posting photos of hands-on shipwreck recoveries ferrous and non-ferrous but s what? Isn't long over due for this company to post photos of their own finds, if there are any to post???
Knows what he's doing? Really? As I understand it, he's not a diver, knows nothing about technical marine remote sensing surveys, has never found any treasure, but he knows what he's doing. Good luck. Very much needed (I believe).
A ferro-magnetic target. Nothing more, nothing less. Besides a real wreck site, it comes with flotsam as well. Hope that answers your question.
What comes Monday, free tickets to the on going clown show?
Where does Goldberg find these jokers?
Well, there's always Juno. That's where it all began, right?
Until such time when this company follows through and actually proves or disproves the existence of ships ballast stones concentrated somewhere in the area as mentioned many times by capted, I firmly believe what was found before by Heartland plus the "wood found now is all based on a large piece of flotsam from the main wreck site. That site could be a quarter mike away or miles away. Dot to dot, connect the dots, establishes a trail and either thats not been done or perhaps there are no more dots to connect???
Perhaps the previously stated RUMORS regarding the divers (including Ace) not being paid up to date (at the time) might not be far off the mark???
I, extensively addressed the issue of ballast here months ago. All treasure carrying galleons found to date carried base hull ballast inspire of the heavy tonnages of treasure they carried; Atocha and Margarita of 1622, Concepcion of 1641, Maravilla 1656 and all of the 1733 galleons. Scrub that "theory".
If the shoreline was a 1000 or more yards out, than many of the 1715 wrecks would have been wrecked and settled dry - into the beach. You might want to scrub that one as well.
Ballast stones (concentrates) in 15 feet of water and deeper, don't move. As heavy weather churns and liquifies the sand bottom, ballast, due to its density, sinks deeper. That too is a provable fact.
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He lives in Tavernier, Fla. Keys. As to the important stuff, as you put it, it doesn't matter if Ace Ridgley or Mickey Mouse is leading this sea going group, when all this controversial smoke clears, bottom line is "Jack squat" is being found. No wreck. No treasure.
Ace Ridgley doesn't live in Key West and more than likely is subject to a strict contract non disclosure agreement. Anything he tells you will inevitably be to protect himself and thus the company. Good try but a number of people know different.
There's one thing that isn't a rumor and thats this company hasn't found a lick of treasure in over five years. In my opinion, Ace is the real hope to resolving this issue of just where is this shipwreck. If Ace is there as a "paid" diver thats great but he's apparently not running the show out there. Some X-navy diver with zero ancient shipwreck experience is supposedly running the show and Ace is just a follow orders diver. Why don't you call management and get confirmation on this, then everyone can be happy.
Thats super optimism to believe there are three decks in the mud. A piece of flotsam. In my opinion, probably how the cannon and misc. artifacts got there. No ballast, no other cannons, no artifacts - NO SHIPWRECK. At least not there.
Maybe a creditable artifact or two, or report that they located the close-to-shore ballast capted has posted about so often, would put a bounce back into things.
Do as you so please. Nothing I posted before was proven false. If I'm wrong then be specific. As a matter of fact if this is a shrouded mystery, I can have one of my family members call him directly.
How important is all this to the fact that its now August 26th, the weather is turning and there's apparently no trail, no wreck, no treasure? The rumor now is Ace is not even leading the hunt.
Actually you have neither. By what evidence revealed so far, you just don't have anything the resemblance of a real shipwreck site. A large piece of wood (flotsam) with some iron fittings is not a shipwreck site. If the dots are being connected and a trail has been established, maybe then something might happen. Thats the way I see it but so what.
Certainly hope not.
Nevertheless what they found is the real deal. SFRX needs to start by finding a shipwreck first.
Not too important. Sad summer.
No. The recent gold find on the news was found (I believe) by Queens Jewels, LLC.
The summer is almost gone. If there are "trail" dots to connect, Ace wold are is doing it. No trail - no wreck - no treasure. As capted brought up before, is the right survey remote sensing technology being applied by the right experienced operators?
I agree with this and always have. The big question with a big question mark is the unknown distance between the dots. That's what a good survey is all about.
Allot of pure dreaming here but nothing wrong with that. We all dream don't we?
To the contrary. I neither said or implied no such thing. The expertise of these persons doesn't even come into play at this point as SFRX has yet to find a shipwreck with treasure. Furthermore you might want to Google DeBrys credentials as a valid marine archaeologist based upon his recent involvement in the Madagascar Capt. Kidd silver bar scam where by involvement UNESCO challenged and stated there findings on his credentials. Let the pros (?) currently doing the field work for SFRX do their thing and reframe from flaunting cosmetic names.
Sinclair and/or DeBry aren't the paid consultants who are going to find it.
Wonderful, Marvelous. Have they found any treasure fir you?
Frankly speaking, there is no evidence they're on a "real deal site". Probable large piece of flotsam, yes. Actual real honest to goodness shipwreck site, no. (you know, shipwreck site with things like multiple cannons, ballast rocks, olive jars, shards, goodie artifacts, treasure, those kind of normal things that spell shipwreck site) Of course, this is only my opinion.