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Fully believe they are active, doing what? Good - based on what facts? Typically, when there isn't news (nothing good to say) there are no PR's. Reality is the weather is bad, there's no at-sea activity and no one is doing anything respective to an all out effort to finding the mythical coins on the beach. Respective to "just not releasing", didn't we all hear this as to when they were going to bombard everyone with the good news on the 1715 anniversary??
Running silent - agreed. Running deep - questionable. Running deep about what? This is no movie script. Searching and finding treasure is a very real event. So far, I find it hard to see anything as a real event.
Oddly enough, your post explained nothing as to what the dive crew is doing constructively. Besides the, now questionable issue of awaited for permits, I monitor the coastal sea state reports which are like zero for survey or safe diving/excavation reports. So this being said, whats this crew of "treasure hunting experts" doing on there extended time off?
At the expense of the unknowing? Certainly better ways to make money.
I don't smoke. You ask what lies? For like five years when this company "opens their mouth" nothing comes out but lies. Obviously they haven't put out news since June as none of their previous scam ideas produced results, but be sure they're working on a new one. Probable the new universal super suck vacuum cleaner that runs on solar power. Everyone will want to own one.
I believe now is the appropriate time to have the "NOPE" list posted here once again.
Call the company? Liars incorporated. What they have to say (Goldberg actually) should make everyone feel good and motivated to get out the old checkbook. You've got to be kidding.
Actually they can do allot by going to the beach and do extensive metal detecting. If in fact coins were truly found in the past, some can be found again. Odd but sometimes people are afraid of the truth.
RIGHT and very provable. Anyone who supports and promotes this on going fraud is as bad as sending their kids to summer camp inside the leper colony.
I don't think we're moving anywhere. I know this leach personally and it will be of the greatest joy when this scam is shut down once and for all.
The fact is there are a set number of us who have been here and will continue to be here playing the watchdog role - telling the truth. That's inevitably going to continue until such time the SEC shuts this scam down and Goldberg is put behind bars.
FLY LIKE A LEAD ELEPHANT
What the crew is doing? As said before, they should be down on the beach every day with metal detectors trying to prove out the "coins found there before stories". What's happened with the high expectations for the Juno site? Total silence on that one which comes as no surprise to me.
A changed man. Really? Thats the biggest joke yet. Funny if he's a changed man, he hasn't been in touch with any of us (x-MEXP divers) to pay any of the money he stiffed us for. When you state he;'s a changed man are you insinuating he's gone through a liars rehabilitation program?
Let my try and give you a heads-up. Anyone who associates with Goldberg publicly in any type of business venture whatsoever, displays their ethics outright. They are either stupid or simply one of the gang. This has proven true over and over for years now. WHERE IS THE SEC? Goldberg is a liar and a man of no ethics. As few on this board can say, I met this person when I was aboard the RV Hispaniola as a diver in the Dominican Republic. He short changed the funding for the project and screwed all of us out of our back pay and left us stranded, having to find our own way back to the USA. The man is a penny stock scam artist from A to Z. He's a master of the game and runs on the philosophy "there's a sucker born every day".
Comment regarding coins on beach.
As I've posted manny times, a shipwreck that breaks up leaves a debris trail. So one does their best to try and follow that trail. capted and I both agree on that. Where I probably don't agree is regarding the stories of coins being found on the beach in the area of Site #3. All metal detector beach hunting enthusiasts listen and follow up on these stories. I have heard many of them from the Florida Keys right on up to Flagler Beach, Florida. Some are of course true. Many are not. Only if I personally see the coins or photos, and know the person to be truly honest and trustworthy, will I believe these kind of stories. I have no idea as to the validation SFRX has to these stories. I know one thing with certainty. On bad weather days when the boat can't go out to work, I would have the divers combing that beach every day with metal detectors. Have they or are they doing that?
I don't drop in on this board very often anymore but you're saying "news is gonna pop". Really? This INOH outfit has run a 100% record on nothing but fabricated lies. Goldberg wouldn't even know how to tell the truth if his life depended on it. As a matter of fact, I look at INOH as hilariously entertaining. Heaven have mercy on any fool who would invest ten cents here. The only real "gonna pop news" will be when the SEC shuts down this scam and Goldberg goes to jail.
Well said. Thank you for explaining. I wish SFRX the best of luck, believing site #3 does have the probability of success awaiting them "if" they can diligently follow the trail.
Juno wreck is a looser, proven to be so by experienced pros. in the not to distant past. I predict it will continue to prove a looser. That's just my own opinion. The unanswered question for me is why a up-start treasure hunting company would launch their debut on such a zilch site such as this? Can't help but make anyone with knowledge of the game wonder.
The real play is the site #3 if its played out right. So again, only my rambling opinion.
Practical.
Everybody simply doesn't find treasure (soon enough). The SFRX track record sort of attests to that.
What Jrf30 logically explanation provides a clearer vision of where this might be going. That said, let me say it starts with valid shipwreck signs as I've stated (not just big pieces of wood) over and over then, if the right wreck, treasure most likely becomes the reality. This is only going to happen if the people in the field know what they're doing. Divers are divers and there are hundreds of them ready and wiling but that'a not the issue. It takes veterans with survey and hands-on shipwreck salvage experience. To my understanding, Ace Ridgley is more or less the only one. That's something one should have concern about.
Actually nothing to explain "factually". Ain't no ballast, ain't no olive jar shards, ain't no artifacts, and there sure isn't any treasure. But then many have posted a very long time ago (and on going), three boats on one spot, must be on the treasure, treasure going to be on deck. Then there were the excuses, "believe they already found it but are going to announce it on the 300 year 1715 Fleet disaster anniversary. That's past, so what's the next prediction?
Changed sites to where. Explain? If it ain't there, it ain't there. Seems rather obvious, at least to me.
"Discovery of a plate" That was not even a company discovery
"Best situation since being in business" Really? No wreck. No treasure. Thats my take on the situation. Explain if my opinion is wrong (in intelligent detail).
When you refer to "want to be's, your talking about the company - right?
Do you believe for but one moment they are finding treasure and the word wouldn't have gotten out? If you truly do believe that, then you've got allot to learn about this industry (if one can call it that). Bottom line is time will tell.
"SEAFARER GAINS THIRD TREASURE SITE" Wonder who ever wrote this grossly inaccurate statement?
Now in five plus years; no treasure at first site. No treasure at second site. No treasure at third site. Now, at least for me, the troubling question would be who's running the show out there on the water? Still believe site 3 has potential but its going to take experienced operators to bring this to a successful conclusion. At least that's my opinion but then there may be those who believe I don't know anything about shipwrecks and treasure hunting in general.
As I said a number of times as well as capted agreeing. "This dog don't hunt". Factually, that's not exactly true with the correction being made to "this dog don't find". It takes in the field professionals to run this show and make it happen. I'm not so sure that's what this company has? Of course just my own opinion. Last note; I'm not talking about paid consultants who's expertise has anything to do with technical remote sensing surveys. (Following a trail).
Winter funding rumor now a reality?
I said I'd exit but can't resist responding to your post. A whole lot of "what if's" on going. The photo although interesting is not something SFRX has found, is it? I could go on and on posting photos of hands-on shipwreck recoveries ferrous and non-ferrous but s what? Isn't long over due for this company to post photos of their own finds, if there are any to post???
Knows what he's doing? Really? As I understand it, he's not a diver, knows nothing about technical marine remote sensing surveys, has never found any treasure, but he knows what he's doing. Good luck. Very much needed (I believe).
A ferro-magnetic target. Nothing more, nothing less. Besides a real wreck site, it comes with flotsam as well. Hope that answers your question.
What comes Monday, free tickets to the on going clown show?
Where does Goldberg find these jokers?
Well, there's always Juno. That's where it all began, right?
Until such time when this company follows through and actually proves or disproves the existence of ships ballast stones concentrated somewhere in the area as mentioned many times by capted, I firmly believe what was found before by Heartland plus the "wood found now is all based on a large piece of flotsam from the main wreck site. That site could be a quarter mike away or miles away. Dot to dot, connect the dots, establishes a trail and either thats not been done or perhaps there are no more dots to connect???
Perhaps the previously stated RUMORS regarding the divers (including Ace) not being paid up to date (at the time) might not be far off the mark???
I, extensively addressed the issue of ballast here months ago. All treasure carrying galleons found to date carried base hull ballast inspire of the heavy tonnages of treasure they carried; Atocha and Margarita of 1622, Concepcion of 1641, Maravilla 1656 and all of the 1733 galleons. Scrub that "theory".
If the shoreline was a 1000 or more yards out, than many of the 1715 wrecks would have been wrecked and settled dry - into the beach. You might want to scrub that one as well.
Ballast stones (concentrates) in 15 feet of water and deeper, don't move. As heavy weather churns and liquifies the sand bottom, ballast, due to its density, sinks deeper. That too is a provable fact.
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