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Gee, moonie ... you could REALLY thank me by doing one simple thing: posting all three e-mails, or alternatively my posts with them in them (that would be better) on diamonte's troo bloo board.
You do know how to cut/copy and paste, right? It's really very easy. You just highlight what you want to take somewhere else (or you can just highlight the link to the page that carries the information you want to transfer/communicate) and hit CTRL + C ... then go the page you want it to appear on, place your cursor where you want it to appear, and hit CTRL + V.
Couldn't be simpler. But of course you already know how it's done, since you've so expertly reposted many other posts that have absolutely nothing to do with loch/cdex.
I don't see moonie "responding" at all now, even with my original e-mail there for him to read.
Wunner why.
I'll keep one eye on the troo bloo board to see if he (or anyone else) posts all three emails there.
Oh, why wait for you to beg for it, moonie ... here it is in its entirety. Trust this makes you happy.
Dear Ms. Gurwitch:
Thank you for your reply and gracious invitation. I have always been certain Texas Children's does everything in its power to prevent the kind of horror story regarding "bad medicine" we occasionally read in newpapers. Your caring concern reinforces my belief that the hospital is very special.
Happily, my son was in only for a brief time, for a specific condition, and not for extended care. He thrives today!
We no longer live in Houston, but thank you for your gracious invitation for a tour of your "domain." I know it would be interesting.
And thank you for the information about your testing procedures and ongoing review of people as well as materials and products that become available. It must be time consuming trying to stay on top of it all.
My best regards to you and your staff.
Here's the type of answer you don't know how to give, moonie:
Yes.
Do you really think I'd have made something like that up? Unlike you and your friends, I don't use people or make up stories for effect.
Any other questions? Would you like to read my final e-mail to her? I'll be happy to post it.
crow ...
maybe someone who still has RB and specifically diamonte's board posting "privileges" will copy my posts from here to there, since neither paige nor moonie are apparently inclined to do so.
rotten! The e-m I got and posted, the one I'm sure moonie or paige will copy to the troo bloo board, the e-mail from the person I wrote to, was from Houston's Texas Children's -- absolutely nothing to do with Dallas.
rotten ... what does DALLAS Children's have to do with TEXAS Children's ???!!! Plz to ask moonie to 'splain ... I would but maybe you'd have more luck getting a straight answer from him.
moonieman ...
Since I know how much you love to keep the information flow going, perhaps you'll copy and past my preceding two posts (in case paige doesn't want to do the honors) on the troo bloo board.
jennifur ... Ms. Gurwitch's e-mail was sent to me on May 24, 2007, in response to an e-mail I wrote to her on May 22, 2007, posted in its entirety here (except of course for my name and e-mail address since they are irrelevant to anyone who doesn't already know them):
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Dear Ms. Gurwitch:
The following statement was included in an August 15, 2006 press release issued by CDEX Inc.:
"We feel privileged to add Texas Children’s Hospital to our growing list of internationally recognized healthcare organizations that are using ValiMed." said Jim Griffin, President and CEO of CDEX Inc. “Texas Children’s recognizes the value of ValiMed and has purchased multiple ValiMed units for use across their hospital pharmacy compounding, medication dispensing, and return verification processes.”
Will you be so kind as to tell me if Texas Children's is still using the three ValiMed Medication Validation Systems the press release noted, to perform end product testing of intravenous medications in its pharmacy departments and/or validation of returned narcotics in its operating room suites and nursing units, as the press release states? If so, what is your current appraisal of the system, these 10 or so months after the hospital purchase? If not, why not?
My son spent some time as a patient in Texas Chidren's, before August 2006, and I admit I was concerned that any medication he received, whether intravenously or orally, was compounded and administered as prescribed. It is undoubtedly a concern shared by all parents and if ValiMed is a further tool to validate the process, that is indeed very good news.
Thanking you in advance.
Cordially,
inet ... (edit at the bottom of this post)
fyi (and I'm sure you'd like the factual information), the letter in this post, which was excerpted (tm capndawow) from a longer letter, was written to me. Just thought you'd like some clarity on that.
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30 Nov 2007, 05:23 PM EST
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Here is the post if he has guts enough to allow it to stay;
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By: lmorovan
26 Nov 2007, 08:03 PM EST
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Texas Children's Hospital rejects Valimed as useless: my bold!
First, let me tell you that as the Director of Pharmacy and a mother of two, I constantly act and think like a mom in my professional life, to ensure that everything we do for our patients is at the highest level of safety possible. We have significant systems in place to help us manage delivery of the right medication to the right patient at the right time. We continuously evaluate our processes, systems,and people to ensure a high-level performance and review outcomes to validate. We do perform routine testing of certain medications that we prepare. As you can imagine, in a pediatric hospital, we must prepare quite a few medications that are unavailable to us in a ready-to-administer form from the drug companies.
In answer to your specific question, the press release was approved some time ago. Between that time and recently, we performed various tests with the product and determined that it would not meet our desired needs at this time. The company had some ownership and management changes, and wasn't ready to provide us the product we had understood they would be providing. We are currently working with Valimed to identify how the product could be improved to help us enhance our current safety measures. In addition, I have been reviewing other technology improvements that could add value to the systems currently in place.
Please know that the Medical-Pharmacy-Nursing and other health professional groups of Texas Children's Hospital work in unison to ensure the best and safest pediatric care possible.
If you are ever interested in a tour, please consider this an invitation, and I would be honored to do that for you. Thanks for your question and interest.
Karen Gurwitch, PharmD
Director, Pharmacy
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Maybe you'd like to pass that information on to your fellow posters on diamonte's board.
If you'd like, I'll post my e-mail to her that elicited her reply. Just let me know, as I still have both my e-mail and her reply (and my reply back to her).
If you no longer read this board, maybe paige in her endless pursuit of information will copy this post on diamonte's troo bloo board.
On the other hand, maybe she won't.
(edit -- lmorovan didn't ask for my permission to post it because he didn't need to. Anything I post on any board anywhere is available for anyone to copy anywhere, without my express permission.)
Why sholuld they pay their own costs -- costs of any sort, development or simply the price of having well-placed contacts -- when they can get someone else to pay them for them?
Print those shares!
"Tuli cows, solar/lunar pumps and ELF and VAAMP... but most of all, HYPE... HOT AIR... LIES... And the "printing press" to "print" millions of shares."
You left out "gifts" to influential peeps, or "payments for services rendered."
if if if, moonie ...
if wishes were horses and all that.
What's with capndagoodwow?
Now he's spamming other companies!
Absolutely, that's what it is. I get paid for every post answering one of mine.
You didn't know that? Where HAVE you BEEN?
crow ... the lesson is that luck beats skill every time!
I really feel sorry for you, capnWOW ...
it must be terrible having nothing better to do with your time than spending it cutting and pasting useless trivia.
As I've said before, even the great barnyard leader, widelyignored, got tired of doing that and moved on. About five years ago.
A little slow facing reality, are you?
the great sweeper in the sky, huh, paige?
Thanks, Lori.
This really pops out now, moreso than before, even:
"... wasn't ready to provide us the product we had understood they would be providing."
They misled Texas Children's ... along with how many others?
And if they now mislead a highly respected hospital or two, how easy would it be to mislead the public through press releases and even pp solicitations? They've done that regularly, as everyone knows ... both as Loch under boonie (who was it who decided boonie would be a great ceo?) and as cdex under malcbaby.
It's just astounding that this scam is allowed to continue.
test
edit: that's what I thought. How'd you get your post the the number of it deleted, paige, and what did it say before you edited it to a dot?
Enquiring minds would love to know.
Ya know, crow ...
This is all so similar to the Lucent NDA.
NDAs are a dime a dozen. And it's not hard to "promote" one as an almost completed contact. Think of the effect the Lucent NDA had on peeps' who then bought into Loch, many thinking this was "THE" breakthough that was going to make them seriously rich.
Similarly, getting valimed into hospitals obviously hasn't been too difficult. And the PRs about them have been designed to accomplish egg-zackly what the NDA PR accomplished.
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ANY DAY IN PAST YEAR OR SO
Malcbaby: Here, XYZ Hospital, here's a gadget you might want to try out, at no cost to you.
XYZ Hospital: What's it do? And what's the catch, 'at no cost'?
Malcbaby: No catch at all. We simply want to get some exposure. We believe this is the next best thing to sliced bread. (mumbles something unintelligible about screening and safety)
XYZ: OK. Thanks. But don't call us, we'll call you if we find it useful. Meantime, let's hear about your return policy.
LATER SAME DAY
Malcbaby (on phone to his PR "associate"): Get that list updated ... I've (slight cough) placed another three today. Make sure you spell the hospital names right.
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Plus ca change.
rotten ...
I don't think I still have it, but unless Matt or someone zapped it, my post with that letter in it should still be here. As I remember, they didn't say they were sending the unit(s) back ... just found it/them ineffective and were waiting to see if touted improvements were going to be made and how good or not they were.
It was a very professionally (and tactfully) written letter.
So the real question might be if the hospital ever took delivery of new and improved units, and what their feeling was about the product now. Maybe I'll e-mail the person I was in touch with then to ask just that.
In the meantime, it does make one wonder why cdex would list so many hospitals in their list of "users" or whatever. No doubt a few others (all the others?) must have had the same reaction as TX Children's, but for some reason CDEX has chosen not to indicate that in any information they put out.
Just can;t imagine what that reason might be!
oops whoops ...
I just know that he's a poor soul full of wishes.
And if wishes were horses, well ...
good gawd.
will the man never quit?
If this is what it means when he says he's "retiring" from the board, I shudder to think what we'll be subjected to if he ever says he's a full supporter of the company.
... and don't overlook jmarcine.
She quit posting very suddenly, too.
Plus ca change.
You know what, rotten?
I think moonie was used as a foot soldier, much as your best friend elrheo was ... a willing if not too bright shill ... and then, like rio, moonie was dropped cold when he was longer evenly remotely useful -- in moonie's case when his friendship with norbert and tommy made him useless to the company. By then moonie was in so far over his head he had to take any tack he could, hoping against hope that he would help make the company perps credible again and get some of his hard earned and stupidly spent money back.
Much the same could be said about rio -- do what you're told to do by people who control the fate of your holdings. Remember his very focused drive to expose the (spit) bashers? Did you remember reading this post?
"A month ago the PPS was at a $1.33. Yesterday it fell into the low 80 cent range. Here is the catch. We were at a $1.33 with no news. The last week we had tremendous news, and the price is falling???? This has been going onb with this stock for a long time now. We believe it is an off shore shorting group. Headed by one Barry Muncaster frim England. They have professional bashers on all message boards. Some with paid subscriptions to be able to post more. Investors Hub and Silicone Investor message boards favor the bashers more than the shareholders. Email me back and I will give you more names. Thank you, N. Morris"
And capndawow wrote a similar post or two. Just a cowinkydink, I'm sure.
But at least rio and mike tried to be creative. All moonie could do was try to salvage some reputations with his creative math.
Agreed, very peculiar that he'd hold the email he took such pleasure in exposing for so long.
omg ... a LUCENT post, you say?
Are they back in the picture? What, another nda?
Really, moonie, you try too too hard to be clever. I guess your command of the language isn't quite as good as you'd like us to b'leeve!
... which of course reminds me
I owe you a call. I wanna hear! So would Patsy and Bill like to, I betcha ...
But not tonight.
'Nite and vty
ps ... puhleeze help drumbah get RICH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Things don't look so promising for him right about now.
You can be excused for not knowing what ORD stands for, since you're not a hot shot pilot like our very own moonieman.
But no idea what's near Norfolk or why it carries the same letters. That would confuse moonie completely!
The one moonie didn't know was for O'Hare. It used to be a field in an OrchaRD, back in the '20s or so. He had no idea why it was designated ORD.
Pretty sad commentary on the knowledge he exhibits in his chosen field. With that kind of broad ranging, inquisitive mind, he'd make a great street sweeper.
ps ...
did you see raiderman's modest, head lowered, aw shucks not me decline of clozer's suggestion that he take on a new job with cdex?
touching, really.
butt!
He's a pilot! That's gotta count for something.
Oh wait ... he's a pilot who doesn't know the airstrips in his own back yard. And hadn't a clue what ORD stands for.
Given his mooniemath, would you trust his ability to even balance his own checkbook?
His sole claim to fame is his "friendship" with tommy, norbert and mari.
Not a ringing endorsement of his character or the amount of grey matter between his ears.
rotten ...
sounds as if moonieman is jealous that you never stalked him!
A N D losing his kool now that da pumperdump seems to be losing steam.
Poor drumbah ... he thought he was gonna be RICH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gosh, crow ... thanks
I've committed that to memory and will NEVER have to ask that probing question again!
But what about a chicken ... lips or no lips?
ubiquitous opinions?
Do you have ubiquitous opinions, crow?
Is there a significance to having ubiquitous opinions?
Is there a difference between having one opinion expressed several times and several opinions expressed once?
Are there ubiqitous posters here and on the other board?
Is ubiquitous the same as paripatetic?
Do snakes have necks?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Drumbah ... jump in whenever you'd like.
A Fortune 500 company! Hysterical!
Why stop there? Why not a Fortune 100 company?
Can't stop laughing!
ha ha
"There are a lot of technologies that are pitched to law enforcement that don't work," Steinhardt said. The ACLU feels the technology needs to be independently tested before a court can admit results from the scanner into evidence, he said.
more ha ha
Philips said independent testing by outside experts likely will come the first time a prosecutor takes scanner-derived evidence to court. However, he said, CDEX won't wait for a successful prosecution or independent testing before putting the scanner on the market.
more ha ha
CDEX expects to have the product, which will cost $2,500-$5,500 depending on the sensitivity level, available by February.
Plus ca change.
great question, rotten ...
but with all malc-and-friends' connections, it should be a piece of cake to get some outfit (in AZ no doubt) to write it for them for free.
wait a minute, crow ...
according to the article cpandagoodwow linked, they expect to sell it by February!
Funny, the same article also mentioned the need for independent verification -- kinda like the Norwegians wanted for independent verification of the claims for the mighty elf.
Then, landmines were the hot news item. Today it's meth.
Gotta give malcbaby credit -- he knows what causes to direct the magical derivative elf technology towards.
you're feeling curious, moonie?
why not take your questions to boards where they're relevant instead of here? Or don't you know where to find them?
I notice, btw, you didn't comment on arloco's post about being pleased to see cdex get national news publicity -- whyzat? I'd think you'd be happy that she's happy!
as I said, you're all over the place these days, moonie.
hope you don't run out of fuel at 20,000'.