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1)I appreciate the humor too and got a good laugh
2)no need to apologize, although a "you were right" at some poiint would be manly
3)I have thicker skin that that, dude
who's jesting?
Suerly you don't think I am HAPPY that people are losing their asses on this one? I have been a VERY VOCAL CRITIC of Jim Dial for about 90-95% of the time I've been aware of the situation. I think it's awful that someone be allowed to make money while losing tons of it for others. This whole situation stink to high heaven and it's going to get mush much worse IMO.
There are a couple people who have been REAL JERKS to me along the way, and I've gotten over feeling badly for those particular individuals a long time ago, but that small vindication of being correct doesn't make up for the sad fact that I saw this coming a LONG time ago, and tried my hardest to warn everyone about it. I've gotten more than a few PM's and e-mails from people REALLY REALLY glad they pulled the plug at 23, 19, 13 along the way. Still VERY VERY sad for everyone, except dial and the jarvis clan....jim j paul gety dial that is, what a joke
maximum pain
at some point you just gotta think that something is better than nothing, don't you?
I mean yah so you bought in the 30's and held it to 6
thirty thousand dollars down to six thousand dollars hurts like hell, 60 down to 12 hurts even more, but 60 down to 5 or 6? I mean you turned a decent house into the worst trashed single wide in 18 months, you going to go for a van down by the river? maybe whe it hits .02 you can cash out and stay in a holiday in for a few nights.....
This management team ought to be tarred and feathered for the incredible loss their true believers have taken....
go griffy!
but hey maybe libya will take the stock price to 16 cents again...
maybe NOT
once again, my posts get pulled
you gotta be kidding me
once again dialer comes out and basically said, "ok I lied to your face"
yet there are still people holding money with him and still people actually giving him more money
i guess the longs have finally won over this board
please don't post anything critical of management, people who appear to be paid pumpers, and anyone else having who has led you wrong on this board about grifco because your post will be pulled over and over again
the people who are trying to delude you into thinking this is a workikng company with real business have control of the content of this message board, and the people who are trying to make sure you have access to the reality of the situation are silenced!
what a country!
listening to me would have left you with 80% of the money you once had, now you have 10% of the money!
yet, I'm the bad guy and my posts get pulled
Hey Gang!
There is one person here who should
NOT be listened to
NOT be trusted
NOT be responded to or referred to any way shpe or form, not even 'it'
Thanks a lot GANG!
Mark is already well aware of the grifco situation..unfortunattely lying and sstalling CEO's are a dime a dozen in the pinky land...that's why the .05% success rate at changing exchanges....but he does "love" this situation being a Texn and all..he is considering a write up of our favorite POS pinky as we type.....best of luck to all
Hey Gang!
There is one person here who should
NOT be listened to
NOT be trusted
NOT be responded to or referred to any way shpe or form, not even 'it'
Thanks a lot GANG!
no doubt some paid pumper, employed by the company has given him that number.
They have established an e-mail ring and a private message board, all for the purpose of talking each other into holding, talking bad about the "bashers", and secretly to forward the cause of helping the dialre sell more shares on the open market. There's two or three of them in on the real game and the rest are just willing duped....
it's sad, really what people will do to each other for money.
didn't someone say that the AMEX can't wait for thier listing,, after that the big board...???
YEAH THEY SAID AMEX IS EXCITED ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS PLAN!!!!!! AMEX HERE WE COME!
LLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
PS. There were times in the past that is was not clear of Dr. Bill's position regarding GFC
Andy, you call my post bashing. But, I thought that according to posts here by strongus, BBB, B2B, etc etc etc that "bashers don't bash bad stocks"
LOL
Anyways, I have stated my opinion many times here and will state it again, as if my "position" regarding GFCI.
I think that it's a scam and always has been
I think that the main business plan has been to put out forward looking statements and print and sell stock with the aid of a few paid pumpers
I think that they have been lying all along about the real share counts to most people, with the aid and reassurances of the paid pumpers to help keep a low number in mind
I think that there is no reason for the dialer to ahve increased the share count from 200million to 400 million unless he had already sold all of the 200 million
I think that the fact that he won't authorize the transfer agent to make any statements verifying what he said about 39 million is the only proof that anyone needs of the fact that he's minting shares to sell
I think that it is God awful that people are allowed to do this, putting out phony and or misleading PR's and then blame message board bashers, naked short selling and market maniupulation all the whille good, trusting people lose hard earned money while it goes on
I think this stock is worthless and the final shoe is about to drop, ending the charade once and for all.
I was here when the litfiber people got the last of many drubbings from the former CEO, John Jarvis. Promise the world and then POOF there he goes.
The same thing is about to happen IMO
There is no way the SEC lets grifco merge with anyone and selling the company is the only way out now, IMO, IMO
paid pumpers have won, on this one. They got you all to buy into the hoopla, and deserve the place they're going to end up.
Why did they call off the merger? I am waiting for the news that gives a reason why they haven't PR the consummation of the rollup merger yet/ They were supposed to pr it within 10 days if it was going on....
Looks like the merger is off, folks
Sorry
all IMO of course
Hey Gang!
There is one person here who should
NOT be listened to
NOT be trusted
NOT be responded to or referred to any way shpe or form, not even 'it'
Thanks a lot GANG!
cyo- I agree 100%
there is a reason for this, and it's not going to go in the favor of the longs.
They didn't file because probably the dialer gave the third reich a half a million shares to PR the meeting and let him show up.....
thats probably why dialer didn't talk, it wasn't his show he paid his way in to give the longs another reason to keep giving dialer money for newly minted and printed shares!
IMO
Neither one has filed anything within the proper time frame.
And, that mention of "acquisition", is NOT the same thing as a MERGER, ROLL UP MERGER, ASSET ROLLUP, FRUIT ROLLUP or anything otherwise.
I think that they either bought grifco, like grifco bought litfiber, litfiber brought paintballs express before that and paintballs express bought trim a lawn, trim a lawn bought the tire shop before that.
I think that there's no such thing as libya facility, no global oil tools contract with anyone, venezuela, china libya etc and that dialer has sold out.
I also think that if things were progressing on schedule, that we should have seen a filing before 30 days after the meeting was voted on....
which we haven't, and probably won't. I think that the grifco PR machine hs ground to a halt and the next thing is the reverse merger into the acquiring company and exit stage left for the dialer, lois, jarvis, mick, jarvis and cohen. Seeya next time round boys, it's been fun.
There is nothing filed and that is VERY telling, IMO
this one's done IMO IMO IMO
BBB,
nevertheless, there is nothing in the filing to state that the merger is on, and since grifco had been touting their new plan since long before the end of the quarter, TTII would have had to mention something if they had signed any kind of agreement with grifco. So
therefore,
it
is my
opinion
that the merger was just a lie
and
NOT going to happen
Besides they were supposed to announce it WAY
before today
in the time frame
that they gave during the big pumps
to pump up the stock price, or try to
with the talk of a merger
ALSO beside which
the audit for grifco
in
my
opinion
CANNOT be completed because of the
glaringly apparent lack of internal controls
within the company
Thirdly(or fourthly I cannnot remeber which)
it's ok for you to call me names?
it's ok for you to call me names?
it's ok for you to call me names?
and lastly,
the stock price is hovering between 5 and 8 cents
last eyar it was .40
the year before it was .80
if that's not a falling sky, what is???????????????
if anyone knew that the price was going to be .06 a year ago would they still have bought?
I'm here to tell anyone left holding this stinky bag, that a year from now
it will be worth
less than .02
IOW
less than 1/4 what it is now
have fun losing your money, all
Looks like the merger is off, folks
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/356590/000113680406000018/0001136804-06-000018.txt
nothing in tree top industries 10qsb about "grifco" "jim dial" etc
it appears as if this was just another ploy to keep the plates spinning a little while longer............
c u @ .002
Andy, you seem like you're wound pretty tight dude
The SEC?
The shares reported short on overstock OSTK, are higher than the actual number of shares outstanding, much less in the float.
It's a clear case of shorting without borrowing, on a GRAND, VERY PUBLIC SCALE.
The SEC cannot do anything about that. What makes you think they give two shists about some tiny little pissant company, that has changed its name five times in 7 years, and is about to change its name again....
they don't, and they won't.
There's no restitution to be had, and there's no substantial fines to be colleted. Dialer sure ain't going to pay you your money back, and there's just not room in jail for all the people doing the same thing as it looks like he's done all this time.
Beaides, dialer got good attorneys to make sure he's just making and failing "forward looking statements" which is legal, and he's also made filings stating that he'd authorized the share count to go up to 400 Million.
When it turns out there's 378,000,000 shares outstanding, where's the problem?
Once again, you're wound wayyyyy too tight, Andy. You've made a mistake with your money. It's ok we all do it sometimes....
a CEO cannot say that the price will increase, period
dialer is either stupid for not knowing this or trying to talk people into buying by saying this
Here's just one shining example of breaking securities law, among thousands that I have seen and or documented since this all began:
Dial says share price will increase and we will be very happy after the merger. by "mrtrump"
People, if your CEO either does NOT know that this is illegal to say, or knows it and says it anyways, this is the FIRST CLUE that this is NOT a place for your money.
CEOs cannot say this crap.
"price will be higher"
the gullibility of some people is just amazing
Andy: "You said "from conception" now if you want to dig back a few years you would realize Gates stole the idea of windows from IBM at conception."
You're kidding, right? By the time that windows came out IBM was largely out of the personal computer space altogether. Gates and his friends at Harvard were outsourced to write code for a disk operating system for IBM computers. They were heavily protected and everything they did was copyrighted material. When the project was near completion Gates had a bold idea; he checked with his famous father William H Gates, the Seattle patent and business attorney, and rewrote all the code, replacing the once standard A: prompt which was the basic command for the hard drive to pay attention, and changed to the now ubiquitous "C:" and released it to the public via schools and insitutions, beating the exact same copy of DOS to be released by IBM, by about 6 weeks. Because the C: prompt renamed the hard drive it was legal in the sense that all copyright merterial has to be at least 20% different, and MS DOS launched the career of three of the world's wealthiest four men. Or at least at one time they were.
This was the first of many BRILLIANT moves to become the ONLY real player in home computers, and the company has been brilliantly managed from the get go.
Once again, by trying to say that they stole "windows" from IBM you're just showing your general lack of business knowledge.
AS for the other:
I will lose my investment, but, there will be a lot of freakin heads rolling. And the entire reporting requirements for stocks will be completely overhauled.yeah right. this kind of thing happens with pink sheet companies all the time. Heads will roll. Thats a good one.
Are you guys protecting the very criminals that lie cheat and steal investors moeny from them? Are you promoting misrepresenting PR's? Are you saying that it is okay for CEO's and prinicipals of a company to lie to investors and mislead them? Are you saying it's okay to do that? That we should know when someone is lying?Umm yeah you should know that by now, when dialer hasn't made good on one forward looking statement yet, in 2 years, that there's a good chance he's blowing smoke up yer ass, yes. I do NOT think it's ok for CEO's (term used very loosely) to be able to do this kind of thing, but people keep buying into their crap, with the help of various, a'hem, "people" and if there were less people to buy the stock the schemes and scams (as this APPEARS TO BE) would be more difficult to perpetrate. Yet underexperienced people keep listening to the flowery speech of "people" promising great riches if we only "be patience because it's awlays rewarded"...I am NOT promoting false PR's I'm sitting here so vocally opposed to the people making those grand proimises and their eloquent supporters, simply BECAUSE i want this crap to stop. Chances are 90% you'll just lose more and more money as time goes by. I didn't say 99, because there's a slim chance <10% that they'll come up with a great big PR that might get a bump to 20 or so. At that point the selling will be coming so fast and hard that it will be imossible to keep the bid up for more than a few mintues IMO. There are SO many people who are dying for a price of just even 30 cents, for a fwe minutes, to get their money back out.
So, NO I don't support it and I'm sorry you'vce lost so much, and even more sorry you'll lose more as time goes by.
Have a nice day
yeah what was I thinking!
Those guys are MORONS!!! LOL at what business fools they are and always have been! Who's Bill Gates anyways?
Andy, do you really feel like the point of business and investing is to make money?
because from your posts I think it's just to lose money and then make up reasons for who screwed you out of it, or into making the bad decisions in the first place!
MSFT was a poorly managed company! That's rich!
I was thinking about it, sorry to have been silent.
The price of CTBG has absolutely nothing to do with the Jet Motor or Jerry Swinford. It's IMO a shell that dialer owns and according to the PR put out by (probably?) swinford's bankruptcy attorney will never be spun out. they cannot get the 75 million shares dec'd, and they cannot get separated from grifco unless there's an audit. And grifco will not let that happen, just like they won't let the transfer agent release exactly how many shares outstanding there are.
IMO Jim dial has sold the company just like jarvis did before him, and even if he's trying to hold on, lyamec has seen their intial investment of $3 Million dwindle to less than $350,000 so at some point they probably havce to realize that they made a bad business decision and that jim dial is NOT someone that they want to be realying on in any cpacity, even if he manages to get his act together and actually do something he says.
Sorry to ramble but swinford got in bed with the wrong dude and now probably has lost control of his tools and inventions, too.
But to answer your question,
there won't be any spinoff of shares. They confirmed that from the last PR. CTBG is worthless probably.
there just isn't any untangling this web and IMO it's by design.
Microsoft was never world-class management from its humble beginnings
Do you have any iota of business knowledge at all? Microsoft was brilliantly conceieved, and managed from day one. Same with Compaq. These were management teams that executed their strategy right from the beginning, and never had even the slightest snag as in the al haig show that never was to be, the spinout/dividend without the ex-div date without a transfer agent, the list goes on and on. These businesses have had audited financial statements from the start, and never have lied and mislead their shareholders even a fraction of the amount that jim dial did in the first five months of his tenure.
Surely you cannot be comparing compaq valero and softie to jim dial and trim a lawn, right?????
I mean the dialer comparing himself to jpgetty was one thing but you stating that msft was not a management team that was flawless from the beginning is just classic!
you should stick to poetry, BBB, really. Business and investing is clealry not your forte. just like typing isnm mine!!
len I would like to offer my services as moderator of this board
you know it's bad when they get to the third decimal in the stock price
.0725!
go griffy
OT-len go to the parking lot and see 18327 please
LENTINMAN
what the fuck!
all of a sudden you're now not allowing talk of Satan at the GFCI board?
I didn't call anyone SATAN. I simply said that SATAN comes with flowery speech which IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.
Where do you get off deleting my posts that do not bust any one single of your rules
or are you just making up rules as you go along???
here I thought you were fair but you got no reason and no explanation for me other than a warning by PM????????
I think I DESERVE AN EXPLANATION FROM YOU OF ALL PEOPLE
this fucking sucks len and you know it
that asshole has been lying to people all along and deserves any name I call him yet i didn't even call anyone anything....
you got anything ta say about that Len??
peeker,
cynicism? Well, I just thought I was making a point about reality being, in the end, well, just that reality.
I don't know which is the case with BBB, I mean someone even mentioned that he might be getting involved on an employment level....makes me go hmmm at least.
I publicly stated, many many many times that the longs should have kicked out dialer, in their own meeting, with their own majority and elected FFIE to the CEO position.
Do don't go accusing me of venom, sir.
AND as for being cinical, you bet! I think that it's absolutely awful, evil incarnate, for someone to be able to steal money like jarvis did to the litfiber people, and like it appears that dialer has done, and after a while someone like BBB isn't just an innocent bystander anymore, at some point, "one" also becomes implicated in the scam, and I think, personally, that point passed a LONG TIME AGO. But that's just me, and my opinion has been know to be way off base once in a great while.....
otherwise this is just a stupid internet forum, meaningless as can possibly be other than some slight entertainment in between caring for real people with real problems which I do every day, day in and day out.....
have a nice day peeker!
La La La!
(that's me singing, BTW)
As for the rest of us: We will hold for the imminent promise of what's only now beginning to dawn on the horizon.
what promise? talking a blind guy into putting almost his entire net worth into this stinky pink POS? Encouraging a guy who's on chemo for throat cancer to keep plowing money into this worthless piece of trash, with your flowery prose and your promises and guarantees of riches?
I can sleep at night just fine, but with the actions I've seen the sominex people must be making a mint! Otherwise there's no conscience involved and you're only out to pump up your own fortune, or dwindling lack therof?
Talk about obstinent. You know BBB, sooner or later that optimistic kid on Christmas morning, will sit back and realize that no matter how great he might think it's going to come out, he's still just digging through a huge pile of horse shit!
Lentiman was right on when he started this board. It will go down to 0. You have to thank the Dialer for that.
johnhk:
actually I think I was the first to publicly state that these guys were up to no good. As far as thanks, I was getting at least 3-4 e-mails per day thanking me for pointing out the rock solid truth about this stock and the company and management behind it.....now it's down to a trickle, maybe 1-2 per week, but I still appreciate the good words. It's not easy to be the one to reveal the truth sometimes but it's always satisfying to know that 1)you've been correct all along and 2)that you've saved a BUNCH of people a BUNCH of money.....
as for the people still holding out for dear hope, they've followed a poet and not anyone who knows the market's and that's got to be more painful then the decreasing zero'es in their net worth.....
I very much thank you all for the praise (especially the one who gave $1000 to the united way in the name of "Dr Bill") but it's not that I want thanks, or parise I just am out to help
and,
you're all welcome!
hope you have a lot to be thankful for, and if it's still hanging on the hopes of the "great conglomerate" of GFCI I feel for you, really, I do!
hat's off to Jim Dial!
andy the reason I personally won't call jim dial on the phone is because he has lied to me on more than a few occasions.
I like how some numbnuts is trying to explain why selling $25 million dollars worth of stock in a (supposed) 5 million dollar company is NOT dilution. LOL
talk about someone depsperate to talk up a company, and make up strange justifications about what dilution is and is not, just so the value of his holdings won't crash further.
imagine you all were following someone who has NO knowledge of the financial markets at all!
uglier by the minute...
meanwhile OT, see the other company I post on ihub about and am the moderator.....now THAT'S a company, and it's even a OTC.BB stock to boot!
today's PR
hmmm, sounds eerily familiar, let's see now, do they just change the names on these things?
HOUSTON, TX--(MARKET WIRE)--May 5, 2006 -- Coil Tubing Technology, Inc. ("CTT") (Other OTC:CTBG.PK - News) today addressed the status of gaining reporting compliance with the Securities and Exchange Commission via a Form 10-SB as proposed in its press release on March 30, 2006. A wholly-owned subsidiary of Grifco International, Inc. (Other OTC:GFCI.PK - News), CTT's separate existence as a publicly-traded company began on December 22, 2005 when it consummated a share exchange with IPMC Holdings Corp., formerly an SEC reporting company ("IPMC").
....
Over the next several weeks, CTT anticipates filing reports for the predecessor entity IPMC to regain reporting compliance with the SEC. IPMC had not filed a periodic report with the SEC since May 12, 2003 when it reported its quarterly financial results on Form 10-QSB. Shareholders are encouraged to visit the SEC's EDGAR site at http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=IPMC&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=&o... to view these reports as they are filed.
CTT anticipates that all deficient reports will be filed with the SEC by month's end. The Company will update shareholders should this deadline be extended due to constraints in completing the historical filings for IPMC.
that's been a damn long month!
round and round she goes!
ANYONE WANT TO BET THE BAD NEWS HITS TONIGHT?
REVERSE SPLIT INTO ANOTHER ITERATION OF PAINTBALLS INC FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE BOWLING ALLEY, AKA, TRIM A LAWN???
YOU GET 1 SHARE FOR EACH 20 YOU NOW OWN, THERE'S A NEW MANAGEMENT TEAM, NEW ceo, AND THEY ARE VERY EXCITED TO BE TAKING THE NEXT STEP TOWARDS MAXIMIZING SHAREHOLDER VALUE WORKING FORWARD ON GAS LEASES FROM WHERE THE DIALER LEFT OFF OF OILFIELD TOOL RENTALS??????
ANYONE THINK THAT'S HAPPENING TONIGHT?????
stronis
Now that you have posted a link to that old facetious article I have a much better understanding on where you're coming from...
buy savings bonds, please!
sputnick
I have read your insults, slander, and filty words at the PL. I have to say that although I won't address you further, it strongly speaks to your intelligence, class, and overall worth as a person to have spoken/written/acted in such a manner. If I had any doubts as to your validity as a person or lack therof, you, sir, have just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt where you stand on a scale of 1-100 compared to the rest of humanity.
I based them on all of the provided facts. One can only utilize the information one is given,
BBB you never had one single fact you had opinions, conjectures, and forward looking statements by management, which you then presented to the boards, not only this humble palce but that cesspool of "oilive oil and griffy and personal threats" that is raging bull, as FACTS
and there is a big difference
you sure can write pretty fancy stuff, but I think you never were very honest of your depth of knowledge of the financial markets, in particular the pink sheets, and that has led to people looking to your flowery statements as expertise, NOT opinion, conjecture and guesses......
I have serious doubts as to whether or not they even have the slightest clue who held the stock on 5/1
the transfer agent was on record stating that they mailed invitation to everyone, including the brokerages who held in street name, and were supposed to be including, get this, a CD or something
Ameritrade never heard boo about any shareholder meeting, afaik no one got any CD, and the same transfer agent is supposed to have a legal copy of all the people who held on the settlement date?
yeah right
no one one who has any amount of shares would legitimately BUY BACK into the stock, right now, with the same amount of money they still have in it, I can almost guarantee that...
which means that the only reason anyone still holds, is that they "might as well, I've lost enough already"
which also means that as the pain tightens, well 12 thousand is better than nothing and then tomorrow it's 8,500 and well you gotta salvage something don't you?
the selling continues
sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was positive on the stock on the first 20 days or so that I was awaare that the company existed, and had bought shares at that time.
I continued to do further research and becamse aware of the significant red flags that were present, and the runaround I got from James Dial on the telephone while I was still an avid supporter of the (supposed) business that they were doing. I changed my mind, sold, and then started very vocally pointing out what I saw and why.
I became positive twice more on the prospects of the company and made succcesful trades both of thsoe times, while still remaining pretty much negative on the management and their running of the company.
Overall I have been correct on the ideas that there are far more than 39 MM SOS, that the dividend would never happen, and that there was not really any business behind the scenes of this company. I was stating publicly that I didn't think the dialer would show up at the meeting if there was a meeting at all.
Was there a meeting? Yes people showed up with a common focal point, of being interested in grifco. No, there wasn't anything to the meeting of any substance at all, but there was a Jay Leno impersonation. Did the Dialer "show up" for the "meeting"? ss the CEO NO, although he was physically there, he didn't input anything at all AFAIK. so thatr's also a "yes/no" proposition. BBB did state that he got to meet nice people, though, so that's pretty swell.
I was wrong that the share price didn't crash immediately after the meeting, that is correct.
I still think there's been a sale of everything, and that there's a R/S coming to the tune of 1:20 at least and that there's going to be a repeat of the litfiber to grifco transaction.....