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mark! Don't be RIDICULOUS!!!!
DELL COMPUTER SELECTED WAVE SYSTEMS AS ITS DIGITIAL SECURITY
CONNECTION! PERIOD!!!!!!
LET ME REPEAT! DELL COMPUTER PICKED WAVE SYSTEMS AS ITS DIGITAL SECURITY PARTNER. PERIOD...................
awk needs to get a grip. If he can't shop online, then he ought to get someone to help him out. It's that simple.
sheesh.....
waverider...i have been an investor since 1997
so I ain't no newbie....as you inferred.
AND I AIN'T SELLIN' TILL I AM STINKIN' FILTHY RICH.
and you chill cause you wrote the original confrontational
post (#69893).
OK?
waverider...excuse me but i am not a NEWBIE, bro.
and I don't need no lectures on that score, big buddy.
and
GWA AND Bush jr. too.
p.s. pls don't lecture me cause I am a SENIOR WAVOID...got it?
mundo...Ya Know, it makes one wonder whether these
enterprises are REALLY REALLY INTERESTED in security in the first place.
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO YELL THAT IT HAS BE HARDWARE BASED IF YOU WANNA HAVE A RAT'S ARSE CHANCE TO SUCCEED IN ESTABLISHING DIGITAL SECURITY?????!!!!!!!!
do these boneheads really care or are they brain dead?
do the artists really care whether their creations are stolen or do they not care?
sheesh.......
this is ridiculous. The one thing that SEPARATES the USofA from the rest of the world is PROPERTY RIGHTS!!!! The concept of property rights is what makes the USofA the wealthiest country in the world. But when it comes to digital property....do we really CARE or is it a BIG JOKE??????
SHEEESH....
Ya know what really grates me?
Here we are 6 years later.....WaveSys creates/originates the concept of 'trust at the edge' and hardware based security...and now we have all these wannabes who are comin' outta the woodwork tryin' to "copy" Wavesys's business model and vision.
This is so funny. DELL COMPUTER HAS SELECTED WAVE SYSTEMS!!!!!
PERIOD.
LET ME RPEAT THIS ONCE AGAIN. DELL COMPUTER HAS SELECTED WAVE SYSTEMS FOR ITS DIGITAL SECURITY SUITE!!!!!!!!
this is all so ludicrous and frustrating combined.
oh well...and so it goes!!!
doma Don't you just love investing in a startup?
Lithuania. Love it.
thanks for the new info....made my day!
go-kite...oh brother! another 'solution'!
this one is cofounded by Telecom Italia.
yeah right! sure!
sign me up..................
geez, this is getting RIDICULOUS!
mbledug Dewe....another comforting story about how
safe we are using the current software centric digital security systems.
this is just RIDICULOUS!
sheesh................
OT: Bruce Schneier is ROTFLHAO after the Gates speech.
Gates handing out free anti spyware.
http://aolpf5.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?dist=feed&siteid=aolpf&guid={587F3FEB-6A1A-4199...
pathetic.............
OT: is MSFT serious? this is a joke, right? read..............
this: http://aolpf5.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?dist=feed&siteid=aolpf&guid={587F3FEB-6A1A-4199...
softee gonna hand out free anti-virus software? And they think this is gonna solve their problems?
this is very very W.E.A.K.!!!
geez....
slow day. see ya later everyone.
ho hum............
Like i thought...Gates said nothing.
A new browser and free anti-spyware.....WHOOPEEEEE!!!
we are all secure now!
sheesh....what a joke!
Check this out: MSFT&Trustworthy Computing......................
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050215/ap_on_hi_te/security_conference_6
"MSFT is building software to protect its software."
HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT?
Talk about nutty. Hey guys....let's build some more insecure software to protect our already bug ridden insecure software!
what a goofy situation.
Billy Boy is speaking now.
Rest assured it is gonna be the standard gobbledygook....yada yada yada.
No one is gonna understand what he said at the end of his talk cause he won't have said much of anything...just more 'talk'.
IMHO.....
Read this to understand why DELL is so important!
http://aol.fool.com/news/mft/2005/mft05021503.htm?logvisit=y&source=eptaollnk308100&npu=y&am...
Gimme the Dell Connection over Redmond anytime. In two years, softee is gonna be another I B M.....troubled and scrambling to retain its former glory.
IMHO...................
I bet Gates says 'nothing'.
It will be the same ole crap. Dell Computer is moving ahead regardless of what Gates does. Michael Dell sees that software isn't the solution to computer/digital security. He wants to be the FIRST MOVER.....and this is why Dell is killing the competition.
Hey, they told Michael Dell he was CRAZY when he started his business out of his garage. They said he would never make it. Well, guess what?
Same thing here. Dell is moving ahead of the pack with the real deal.
C_M I think you want Steve Jobs.
geez....
C_M....Microsoft is apt to screw it up again.
Maybe not....but the potential is there because MSFT is
software centric. It does not want to fork over any applica-
tion to any model that is hardware centric.
If MSFT could eliminate INTEL, then it would be more than
happy to do so. If MSFT could engineer a PC into something
that is completely amorphous (no hardware at all!), then it
would be ga ga over it. Just imagine.....a PC embedded in a
human mind. No hardware necessary and all driven by WINDOWS!
This would be the ULTIMATE Microsoft achievement.
No more Intel...no more nobody. Just MICROSOFT!
So.....MSFT doesn't want the TCG. It just wants trusted
computing and MSFT wants to be known as the trusted computing
model. If MSFT could have trusted computing without the TCG,
then "LIFE WOULD BE SO GOOD!" acc. to Softee.
MSFT doesn't want the TPM based model. That's HARDWARE!!!!! ugh
YUCK....GROSS ME OUT! This is the way MSFT looks at the world.
It is all software and it is all WINDOWS!!! Nothing else
matters and anything that gets in the way must be CRUSHED!!!!
SO....where does that leave us?
Well, the fact is that MSFT is gonna fail this time because
software is no good when it comes to digital security.
Let ME REPEAT AGAIN. SOFTWARE SUCKS WHEN IT COMES TO DIGITAL
SECURITY.
why? because it is the software that causes the problem. It is
the software that provides the thousands of backdoors and
'unlocked windows' that can be accessed to break open a digital
systems secrets. MSFT locks up some doors and slams shut some
'windows' but then is confronted with another set of unlocked
backdoors and 'windows'. It goes on and on and on.
YOU CANNOT FIX THE SOFTWARE TO PREVENT THE HACKERS FROM
GAINING ACCESS. THEY WILL ALWAYS FIND ANOTHER ROUTE!!!!
PERIOD.
But Microsoft does not want to concede or announce this HUGE
FAILING IN THEIR BUSINESS EMPIRE. They will continue to force
these bogus software patches onto the world as long as they
can until some HUGE EVENT HAPPENS THAT COULD DRIVE THEM OUT OF
BUSINESS....and only then will they PERHAPS concede.
MSFT has a mantra: Never back down, never concede and always
move WINDOWS forward and CRUSH the opposition.
I don't know what MSFT is up to but I can tell you one thing:
if Longhorn comes out without a TPM centric model, then it is
D.E.A.D. as far as security effectiveness. It will be just
another failed attempt by MSFT. The wonder of it all is the
amount of money MSFT can spend all this worthless crap.
sheesh...
C_M...Microsoft is a mess. Look at all those security
pieces that they are patching together in the hope that it will
work. Bruce Schneier is laughing his arse off right now. This
is a joke, right?
sheesh................
Here is IRONY for you! read this article.......................
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/business/article.adp?id=20050214101209990012
Bill Gates is at center stage at the security show?
I find it ironic that MSFT is the worst at 'security' and yet
they are at center stage.
too too funny.
goinup EXACTLY! Wavesys originated and blueprinted
the whole TCG roadmap.....more or less.
Wavesys was thinking Trusted Computing before anyone had a clue
And yet, we Wavoids painfully know how hard it can be to be so
far ahead of the curve.
oh well.....so it goes.
Weby....you are right. Schneier has a vested interest
in keeping the landscape 'risky' and 'insecure' because he
wants to increase demand for his consultants.
The irony is that Schneier wants less security so that his
consultants would remain in High Demand and can charge a
bundle for their services.
Ironic, isn't it?
C_M You speak the truth. Remember one thing and
that is the term Trusted Computing was originated by Wavesys.
Recall the term "trust at the edge"?
Yup, little ole Wavesys. And we wrote the blueprints too.
No wonder Dell picked Wavesys.
sheesh.....
I ain't selling until I am STINKIN' FILTHY RICH
on this investment. Waiting patiently for the contracts to start
piling up......waiting for that all important CLARITY that the
skeptics so hunger for.
Mega Risk for Mega Reward.
Don't sell until this baby is a HOMERUN.
just wait patiently and ignore the naysayers.
eamon...maybe cause ML was close to HP and..................
vice versa.
By the way.....whaddaya think of HP's prospects going forward?
Select one:
Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Nonexistent
I would say Fair. Which means the company is a take-out in
about five years or less.
Sad.....very sad.
donald duck You are a smart guy. BUT.....................
I don't entirely agree with you.
The downside is 100%. Yes....this is true. Frankly, I believe
that Wavesys is a HOMERUN stock. BUT...the downside is still
100%. Anyone who buys this stock has to be willing to lose
EVERYTHING.
but...that is the price one pays to get STINKING FILTHY RICH.
there is no FREE LUNCH.
this is what the naysayers and negative pundits don't under-
stand. They think that we (WAVOIDS) are advocating some sort
of FREE LUNCH proposition. Nothing is further from the TRUTH!
We WAVOIDS......are telling investors that this investment is
the epitome of what America is all about......MEGA RISK for
MEGA RETURN.
We don't want any investors here who are W.H.I.N.E.R.S. about
how this stock doesn't skyrocket according to their own
individual timelines....
who cares?
This is all about investing in an enterprise which could
conceivably turn the digital space upside down.......and
therein lie the RICHES!!!!!!
it could happen very soon.....................
and so it goes.
oh eamon...gimme a break, ole fella.
"Old River Time" moves on.
Hewlett Packard is the perfect example.
Frankly, I feel really bad about Hewlett Packard. I went
to school in the neighborhood.
But it is over for Hewlett Packard. Yes....they may be able
to recapture some niche markets and 'prosper'. But they will
NEVER be the same as they were in the 1960s and 1970s.
It is OVER.
IBM has re-engineered itself into some amorphous services
company but there is no way it can sustain its HUGE infra-
structure on this "services" strategy. So.....get ready for
some HUGE downsizing action on I B M .........
MSFT is struggling.....everyone can see that! It is on the
WAY DOWN!!!!!!
on th flip side, DELL COMPUTERS is expanding and is growing.
What is DELL doing?
Ask yourselves that question.
Wavesys has been SELECTED by DELL because DELL sees in
Wavesys what it sees in itself. Dynamic.....forward thinking.
nimble......and aggressive!!!!
There is just one thing I want from my investment in Wavesys.
I wanna be STINKING FILTHY RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
donald duck...Cheers back to you!
the heck with the naysayers......
who needs them?
sheesh...
eamon....whatever happened to Hewlett Packard?
come on......
gimme a break.
none. Zippo...Nada...Zero!
so who cares about I B M.......
Let's move on!
DELL COMPUTER is 1000x the IBM 'alliance'.....
sheesh.....
OT OT OT: This could be the year the DOW JONES
hurdles over the NIKKEI.
you heard it hear FIRST!
Is it applicable to Wavesys? Yes and no.
Yes....in that it augurs the supremacy of Western Capitalism...
aka entrepreneurism....aka Wave Systems.
No....in that these are just bonehead Indices that don't amount
to a "hill o' beans" (as Bogie would say) in the final analysis.
But....I thought it would be FUN to throw this bone out there!!!
and so it goes!
C_M.....You are too funny! I B M...........................
it makes me want to gag.....
oh excuse me. I suppose sayin' such is not politically correct.
too funny....
ROTFLMAO...............................................
C_M First of all, no one knows what's going on with IBM
and Wavesys. It could be that IBM is just refreshing their
website and perhaps EXPANDING their relationship with
Wavesys....for all we know!
Secondly, assuming IBM is ticked off about the HUGE alliance
between DELL and Wavesys, and thereby threw Wavesys off their
radar is just too funny for words.
Look.....maybe Wavesys saw that IBM is not gonna do squat to
further their cause and decided to go with DELL full speed
ahead. If so, then more power to both Wavesys and DELL.
IBM doesn't control the PC or digital universe anymore! Those
days are LONG GONE! Even MSFT is finding it very very difficult
to control the landscape. In a few years, MSFT is gonna be in
the same shape IBM was about 15 years ago.
Look......Wavesys is a small dynamic company fighting for its
life in a fast moving arena. It could be a HOMERUN company or
could strike out.
If it is a HOMERUN, then all the Wavoids here are gonna be
STINKING FILTHY RICH!!! if it strikes out, then the Wavoids
come up empty and move on to the next potential HOMERUN.
This is America! We are blessed to be in the Land of Oppor-
tunity and Dreamers have a chance to live their dreams.
The heck with the naysayers and pessimists.
America was built on risktakers and dreamers.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
orda GREAT POST! DELL COMPUTER PICKS WAVE SYSTEMS!!!
and that's the rest of the story.
Good bye IBM. Good bye HP.
Next up....Microsoft.
and the beat goes on.
CM Who cares about IBM? DELL is the lean mean sales
machine. IBM isn't going to give us a break. IBM is small com-
pany PARANOID. Last time IBM gave a small company (it is called
Microsoft) a break back in the very early '80s.....the little
company (Microsoft) took over the landscape.
IBM is scared stiff of small dynamic companies.
And so it goes.....
rooster....MSFT just keeps talking and buying software
operations (Sybari was the latest) to try to patch things up
and none of it truly works. Just like flushing money down the
proverbial commode.
Dell gets it. I guess that is why Dell is eating HP's and IBM's
lunch. MSFT should be very very grateful that Dell isn't in the
software business.
sheesh......................
donald duck...tophersaint/c_m already posted this info
but thanks anyway.
Is this what they mean when they say, "Oops, I let the cat out
of the bag!"??????
and the beat goes on..............
Armp I have said publicly that I agree with your
revenue projections. I think you are closest to 'reality' than
the others.
Do you still have the same rev. numbers now that we know of the
DELL deal? Any tweaking?
thanks.
xxxxcslewis tophersaint/c_m already posted earlier BUT
nice find anyway!!
Unreal that Wavesys is all over the Dell map and vice versa...
ho hum..
CM WOW! Wavesys is ALL OVER the Dell site map!
sheesh......
I know that Wavesys needs/wants to remain 'agnostic' but it
sure would be cool to see DELL take a very small stake in
Wavesys just for the heck of it.
oh well......