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proto. do you think this will totally crater? it sure might. if there's no deal before or
announced at the asm, it could go back under a buck. you and a few others who are
very knowledgeable about the science do not have a better idea of whether the company
will ever do what it has never done than all those who are completely ignorant about the
science.
will lwlg be a business success story? there isn't a person in this world who knows the
answer, but there is no shortage of people on all sides who'll throw reasons/rationalizations
at the wall no matter what happens. hindsight will be 20/20 as usual.
good luck! they are an amazing little company...
bieliever. what about kw or others has ever given any shareholder a concrete reason to
be a shareholder? does she actually work? is there one person in management really
trying to do anything real-world that would affect this company's prospects? forget the
pps--that's been headed where the sun don't shine since the day kelly inherited, yes
inherited the company. the whelans got theirs--will they be able to squeeze a few thousand
more dollars out before biel bites the dust forever? probably--they're good at it. so
probably...
proto. with your vast knowledge and insight into lwlg, many of us are counting on you
to grill lebby if he doesn't offer anything new. awhile ago you said you'd do that. we're
hoping you aren't simply desperately moving the goalposts as others claim the company is
doing. i can't say in an investment situation that it's your responsibility to grill him intelligently
and forcefully, but some people will start tuning you out completely if you don't. plenty
already have--which very possibly you couldn't care less about...
please!
vein. it is silly and a little crazy to think they do not have products. they are an amazing
little company that has amazing achievements documented by a wide variety of scientifically
brilliant people.
the problem is that as an investor the investment itself is speculative. there is no way of
knowing whether they will do revenue producing business. lebby doesn't know either. in his
role as ceo he does what ceos do and are supposed to do: he speaks glowingly and
optimistically about the company's prospects. his greatness as a scientist in the field of
photonics is a separate matter, a completely different role.
there are so many good and bad signs, signs that project success, huge success, failure,
and complete failure that like so so many things, the way one assesses those signs says
something about the person evaluating the available information, but now and for many
years has literally zero bearing on how this will turn out.
there are countless safer investments; there are not nearly as many with lwlg's potential.
for an investor who doesn't actively trade in and out, it is a tough position to be in.
glta!!!!!!
how kelly whelan acts in her role as ceo of a PUBLIC company is hilarious. unless
you've got money invested! she's defensive, combative, bullying, and without talent or
motivation to be effective or even remotely competent. protecting her and her mother's
interests are everything to her, and that does not in any way line up with managing biel
in a way that might produce positive results. did i mention, she's also buried in self
rationalization? oh well...
band aid. not one person on any message board knows whether ceo kw even works.
there isn't one single piece of evidence that she does. that she even tries to make biel
a success. there is a ton of evidence she doesn't have the slightest concern for investor
value. in fact, as long as the whelans get theirs, it is entirely likely she has contempt and
may dislike the investors who keep the company barely afloat. most of the posters here
know nothing about business or what is involved running any company of any kind.
if they did, they'd be confronting kelly at least periodically, even though putting people off
is one thing kelly is good at. passive-aggressive, that she has in spades.
well bobby. because of how the company is run by the family that owns it. by the fact
that after a great many years the ask is 95 million at .0006 and it can't get there. by
the fact that not one creative thing has been done because why would it be, the whelans
make what they make off the backs of investors. there is no such thing as bashing biel.
but there are a handful of nuts who pump it year in, year out. so effectively: 95 million at
.0006 and nobody will spent ten bucks to get it there. why should they?
vein. deals are all that matter. will one be made? unknowable. our ceo's optimism, what ceo
doesn't speak about a bright, exciting future? unless they and their company are going down
the tubes--even then there is usually positive spin. all companies are vulnerable to the
perplexing complexity of market forces, but never having revenue, never closing a single
deal, that's vulnerable to the max. lebby doesn't spell out why no deal has happened--between
that and the big bonuses (for what? for being brilliant?), and the length of time, anybody who
isn't worried about their investment, well, it's a wonderful, enviable attitude/perspective to have about life in general.
vein. deals are all that matter. will one be made? unknowable. our ceo's optimism, what ceo
doesn't speak about a bright, exciting future? unless they and their company are going down
the tubes--even then there is usually positive spin. all companies are vulnerable to the
perplexing complexity of market forces, but never having revenue, never closing a single
deal, that's vulnerable to the max. lebby doesn't spell out why no deal has happened--between
that and the big bonuses (for what? for being brilliant?), and the length of time, anybody who
isn't worried about their investment, well, it's a wonderful, enviable attitude/perspective to have about life in general.
yes youngkim, exceptional, that is a good word for the ceo kelly is. another good
word might be, inmate, she'd be an exceptional inmate.
srin. it's 2023. you know so much. biel has 81 million shares on the ask at .0007. 81 million
at .0007 in 2023.
squaregrouper. it is agonizing. how long commercialization will take is unknowable. lebby is
as upbeat a guy as he is brilliant. ceos are supposed to be upbeat. the bonuses, those threw
me off, along with the lack of insider buying. 2023 may be different. i sure hope so, though
my worry is dominant now.
you have the exact same right we all have to lose our money or ????
getserious. good luck to all you bielievers! merry christmas and happy new year! i hope
2023 is a safe and healthy and generally good year no matter what happens to this little
company that has cost me a lot of money, but hasn't enough room left to cost me much
more so i'm able to focus entirely on appreciating the terrific products.
biel has gone from frustrating to agonizing--all the clearances+deals yet toilet bowl pps--to
depressing--how disastrously on every level the company is managed--to not worth giving
a thought to as it grinds to its demise.
still. merry christmas and happy new year!
market ie nasdaq drops at all, lwlg drops like a stone. when nasdaq rises a little or a lot, lwlg
struggles to tread water.
shorts are short in order to make money and they are doing just that. the market does not
believe dr. lebby, who is both very brilliant and very upbeat by nature, but thus far unproven as a
businessman/ceo. nor does the market agree with how very smart positive posters interpret lebby's statements or lwlg's prospects.
there are very compelling reasons to be skeptical, even pessimistic, and there are very compelling reasons for optimism and to invest in lwlg with all one can spare.
i'm in, i'm way down, but i'm in and will stay in until things swing one way or the other. glta
and merry christmas and happy new year! it would be all the happier if lwlg finally made
a revenue producing deal or two or six!
art2426. the way kelly whelan runs this company .0001 is soon upon us.
there is no point in debating with the posters who love biel, the mere fact
that they're able to keep being positive says a lot about them, nothing about
the company or its prospects. today there are 63 million shares on the ask
at .0007, 63 million! the shame is that the products are excellent. tho with
kelly doing whatever her thing is, it wouldn't matter if actipatch caused
eternal youth or at least reversed baldness. the whelans make enough money
to live nicely and regardless of all statements, that's the one and only thing
that matters. there are ceos capable of getting copper, possibly even silver
out of biel, tho not with this share structure, kelly whelan could run apple
into the ground. she's that good.
yes, bookem. this is a great time to buy, though it's impossible to know what
the bottom is. cbdd remains hugely promising, as does the cannabis sector
in general. i do not think it is so much that buyers are scared of cbdd now,
it's that they have no idea whether the company and the ceo has what it takes
to turn things around.
it's an if and when situation, and i'm inclined to believe good things will start
happening within the next year or so.
glta
12 or so years ago i bought millions of shares of biel. i paid .0007 for those
shares, then averaged up all the way to .0017, where i guess i wised up and stopped,
now here it is, so so much has changed, so so much is different. but good
ol biel, the stock is the same price as when i first bought in. halleluia. eureka.
we should all be very upset. paul looks like he's no better than his predecessor.
not filing--inexcusable. no communication of any kind with investors--inexcusable.
my guess: he took the job, got inside, discovered that it was impossibly screwed
up, and has been looking for a way to exit either with dough or at least without
getting hurt.
nevertheless, the lack of communication, that's skanky. not criminal, not actionable in pinkie land, but morally low class.
i liked the cut of his jib when he started. but you just can never tell...
ctdt was finished the moment mr. snaper failed to recognize chaz for who
he is. he was far from alone. no matter the evidence, many here so wanted
to believe, some were even in substantial contact with chaz. the fact is, chaz is good at lying and being a criminal of a certain kind that rarely gets punished but
is more deserving of prison than a lot of inmates. he is as persuasive as he is
dishonest.
there are plenty of chaz's; they are a dime a dozen...
at .0007 the pps is where it was before fda approval, deals, anything. fix
the share structure? do something creative/inspired?
kelly, like her father before her, has a pretty comfortable life. in her case, it's
not even that she has no motivation to increase shareholder value. she would
actually rather not, for reasons all her own. she's plenty smart, but from an
investor's point of view, it'd be very hard to limbo below her ability as a ceo.
a competent manager would have biel at pennies in short order. it'll never
happen under her guidance.
badali. your post does not address what i wrote, but what you say, that is my hope too. i am optimistic, though i admit my confidence isn't high enough to
buy more shares, even at these low low prices.
good luck paul, good luck badali, good luck all!
paul hasn't yet been able to make a discernible difference in how cbdd functions or how its actual or perceived progress is going. it's impossible as an investor
to know anything. based on his track record, however, i'd have thought he'd be more communicative, able to raise capital, and timely in cbdd's filing. i'm down
80+% of my investment and decided awhile back i'd ride it out to 0.0 or to
a big turnaround.
good luck everyone!
sad but good: seems everyone has moved on, hopefully to greener pastures.
chas is a crook, articulate, even compelling. upside: he is a useful lesson: ignore
what's said, be alert to what is done.
glta!
i think they're doing a damn good job of playing this like a fiddle. no deal. not
one word indicating there will be one. faith in lebby the brilliant scientist is nice but has no relation to whether the company can make a deal or deals. they
haven't ever, they offer nothing about what's holding things up now, there is
nothing except pure speculation. meanwhile, the evisceration continues, allowing
smart investors to make piles of money while longs sit on hope.
steve43. please help. i'm looking for a worse place to park my money than
biel. 12 years, in trips, hardly a gram of communication from management,
everything about its products suggest at least small success, yet agonizingly,
nothing boosts the pps...
12 years: could've put the money in treasury bills or an index fund and the
cumulative profit would've been enough to take great vacations, buy lots
of things, give sweet gifts.
so: it's not easy. except for companies that ceased to exist, can anyone come
up with a worse long term investment?
no, it's not typical.
words so far from our new ceo. good sounding words. but concrete actions
that would have a positive effect on shareholder value? if they succeed in
acquiring mellow, that might be good. impossible to know anything at this
point. though the pps, that's spinning in the toilet...
srin. every stock is manipulated, every single one. and yes, at the same time,
perception plays a huge role. but in the long run, based on things like sales,
revenue, cash on hand, transparency, etc. companies can establish a baseline
value and a trading range that is subject to all kinds of short-term spikes
and upheavals. biel has been around a long time. in certain ways they have
achieved a very great deal. however, when it comes to the fundamentals, omg
are they the pits, as they've been for a good chunk of my life.
how's your investment doing? mine? don't ask...
unless paul intervenes with either a positive pr, the audits, or some
form of communication on social media, cbdd could go down to ????
there have been indications he has a good business plan and his background
suggests at least competence. but so far shareholders like me have nothing
except hope that these are early days and a very big turnaround is in the
offing. in the meantime i'm stuck: selling i'd take an unacceptably big percentage
loss; buying when this could go to .0001 is inconceivable.
fingers crossed. best for me not to even peek for several weeks minimum...
glta!
12 years. all the great news. an opioid crisis. a product that works. sometimes
it works merely well, for many it works great. it has more uses than you can
shake a stick at. it is more than halfway through 2022.
the pps is .0007!!!!!!!!!!!
.0007.
spiro rombotis. not just in the usa, but globally, he would be right at the
very top of highest paid, longest standing, and worst ceos. can't even imagine
how corrupt the board is. if he has family, not even they would've let him
keep his job. he's smart, he's very articulate, hard to imagine a bigger fraudster.
if cycc wasn't what it is, he would've been out 10 years ago. or more...
ghost. biel has made lots of achievements. the problems with the company
are so numerous the pps is in trip--trips!--after everything.
i wish there was a way to make a big bet on whether biel will reach copper or
go bankrupt. you can't short it and buying more, what a terrific place to
put your money that is.
dude abides. yes! good companies, well managed companies, they respond
to this kind of takedown. otherwise lawsuits start flying. very surprising to me
that marcelli and/or lebby haven't responded at all. silence has zero to do
with integrity; after all, it's their integrity that's being challenged. they've been
called liars, cheats, scammers. that is so false, such baloney done purely
to make money. forget any point by point riposte; just say, it's all false, we will
triumph exactly in the way we've been outlining for months.
what happens if nothing happens on the 26th? nothing new is announced?
where does the pps go?
gailm. how right i'm sorry to say you are. there's a lot more we could shake an
angry fist at when it comes to biel and how the whelans have operated it--strictly
for their own benefit. while feeling furiously justified the entire time. ug.
nrdc92. what i'm saddest and maddest about is how i've failed to act time
and again. sell when it flies, buy when it crashes, the opportunities have
been many. you're right in what you say, but i've stood by and watched them not be able to make a single deal, as pumping posters kick the can down a well worn road. lwlg has provided a number of opportunities for investors like me to make very good money and i've told myself again and again, take advantage of this repeating cycle. but noooo. now it's anticipation about the asm. being able to
sell is what separates good investors from ones who hold on emotion like me...
yes dude. all true. but.
no one here offers the possibility that someone knows something very negative.
the possibility of bad news is every bit as real as the possibility of good news
we've all been waiting for for quite some time. it's a real nail-biter.
yo tie. lwlg doing a great deal worse than the market. company's behave
differently. they're independent. management calls the shots. i'm invested
in many, some of which are very responsive, communicative. lately. lwlg
has a very poor history in this regard. continues to this upsetting day!
nrdc92. so true!
lebby et al see what's going on. evidently it's not enough to communicate
to us long loyal longs...no news is not good news...