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Less than 7 months ago, ECDC had a reverse split at 1, and here we are again at 1. This is a piggy bank Pos for pocket fillers. Toxic financing yag and uncle Kayo. right now they're collecting the kiddies piggy bank change from newbies. As long as there is dollars or change to collect, the bottomless pit will remain open. Why close up shop, when the coins are being dropped into the mouth of the bottomless pit.
Traders and investors beware.
Money I'am not mad or bashing you, but this best in the penny stock you claims it's you,,,,here is one for you, remember fred and fan, I gotten in last year at bottom. Made my second 3rd mils this year. Yes, Circ got me somewhat. That and a few others put me out of the best of the best sub-penny trading. I keep telling myself to leave these sub-penny stock alone. With these sorry leaders. But we all know that a sub-penny stock with low authorizes and the right amount of outstanding shares and the right press release to send volume to the sky can make one very money in-challenge.
And by the way a smooth hot cup of coffee help me to buy the main radio brocast 5 years ago like Sirius for .39 sold for 3.46 to 3.55. No, I won't claim to be the best of the best any more, especially not after chosen a company like Circ and a few others.
Cirtran did had a great product that could have made almost everyone rich. Only if the leader could have use the money to chose the right and best strategy in marketing the product. This could have been another of those million dollars payout for investors.
Have your fun poking jokes Money while I go and make me another large cup of coffee. See I always have a strategy on how to re-coupe my losses over a smooth hot cup of coffee. And my strategies always work 95% of the time. Patient and timing is the key, not to mention other places where it will soon be very hot.
I don't linger around and stay upset when things don't go the way they should. So CIRC PPS is down very low. I don't get mad when the price of commodities like gas and wheat goes up and especially not when gold goes up. So why worry over a sub-penny stock, when there is money being made elsewhere. Please excuse me I have that extra large cup of coffee to make, and dd to do.
Go Circ!!
GLTA.
I have already took a $16K loss. No way in hell will I take a much larger loss with a 1000 share r/s. If he think he is having a problem with PB, he hadn't seen or heard anything as worse as litigations with PB, Playboy is a walk in the park compare to angry investors. He shouldn't had never used this company for his own personal Piggy bank.
If the company is out of money then sell that dam house he purchase with his over paid salary, that he paid himself. He sit on his a$$ and went on lavish trips and gave large sums of money to family members instead of using the money and time on the job to open up revenues and channels for distribution for Cirtran. PBED should have been out there in the main stream retail markets and stores long before Playbev file for bankruptcy.
P.S. Sparkle I'am not directing my frustration out at you or anybody else on this board, by no means. It's that sorry leader of this company. Who have screw up,and screw up big time.
A reverse split is out of the question for must of us who are very long who have bought into this company when shares was .0017 and much higher. It took $2000 dollars to buy 1mil shares at 002 plus broker commission. Yes many here in no man's land had purchase million when it hit 2 four weeks ago. It only costed them $200 per million. They don't have as much money to lose they can still get out and not take a loss, but long terms we are stuck. $200 per million verses $2000 per million shares. But still the same money is money, don't matter how big or small you might have invested in Circ.
No a reverse split is definitely out of the question for me and many others long term investers. I agree with Hiswill buybacks seem more of the right thing to do. F a reverse split.
Money, I have a question, Is there any kind of a way Cirtran can get more Authorize shares with out the shareholders knowing about it. And if so, what is the max.
P.S. HIT ME BACK.
You're right about that. A reverse spit will definitely wipe out must of the investors. My long turn investment cost me a lot more then buying these triple zeros. Even if I do buy at 2 or 3, it still won't equal to the money I spent buying millions at 17 and 19. those costed me over 10 grand. Here in no man's land you can get a couple of millions for less then 400 dollars. This thing can run when YAG run out of converted shares. If Cirtran is out of Authorized shares, that could mean they don't have anymore shares to give to Cirtran on the 15th of this month.
I sure hope the company has not run out of it's 4.5 billion authorizes shares. Even If they do a r/s they still would have to go and ask for more authorized shares for continuing financing and pay bills. They will probably claim they're still trying to build the company, and that they need more start up shares for financing. If aloud this will be a rinse and repeat. Cirtran is in litigation with PB. My opinion they need to let the litigation ride out. Because what else can they do, but keep dumping converted (authorized) shares into the market. My opinion no other company want to merge with them while they are still in litigation with PB. let's face it The leader screwed-up from the beginning. There is no money, and we as shareholders are going to be the ones to suffer. The company's failure.
Someone mention advertising is what it is going to take. But someone also mention yesterday if they advertise the consumers can't go out and buy the product. So advertising will not make any sense if you can't go to a convenience store or market and purchase the product.
What happen to the pyramid that was posted earlier this morning on this board about getting others to join Purenrg tx. Then they get others to join, and so on, and so on. Someone were really implying that Purenrgtx is encouraging a pyramid "SCHEME"
Like mention before if Cirtran can get out of this litigation argument with Playboy, then we might or can be able to get a good or excellent distribution channel piggyback ride from a major soft drink company like Dr Pepper/7-up, or a Top notch alcoholic beverage company like Miller, Adnam's Brewery, or Young Brewery, and so on. Coke Cola and Pepsi company is already backing other major Energy drinks in distribution. No one probably want to touch this company right now, because of litigation with PB and they definitely don't want to ruin their reputation. But it doesn't hurt to dream, especially if you have a great sum of money invested in this company.
Yes, It's doesn't hurt at all to dream.
Now, finally someone speaking my language. What better way to reach a large audience especially a Playboy Energy drink clientele than by television, especially during sports entertainment, or while most people are relax at home and watching television. This is what Cirtran should have been using the company capital towards in the past to build the company. Instead of paying for lavish homes, trips, and lavish salaries. This money should've went to major advertising for Playboy Energy drinks. If not television, then radio ads.
Now there isn't enough money available to pay for such an important event like television or radio advertising to reach many potentially consumers. This purenxg thing, seriously, let's see what it can do for the company. That all the money we have left is Koolaide money and not champagne. So if Koolaide money is all we can afford to get purenxg, then purenxg it is.
Once Cirtran get out of this litigation argument with Playboy and others there are still distribution channels that Cirtran can or might be able to piggyback from such as Dr Pepper/7-up or One of the top 141 Alcoholic Beverage Companies with corporate logos including the largest profitable companies from Adnam's Brewery to Young's Brewery. But they just can't approach these companies unprofessionally. They will need someone that can really sell the idea why you need us. Not why we need you, because that is obvious. This is where our leader made some of his mistakes, he doesn't seen to be thinking like a top notch beverage manufacture leader. Who company has the number one energy drink. After a test market.
Cirtran and Play beverage have the product. Playboy Beverage, of all names, plus logo. If not a soft drink beverage company to help in distribution of PBED, then why not a well known Alcoholic Beverage Company. could you imagine how many companies would have love to distribute Playboy Energy drinks for a profit and not to mention how it would have increase their own beverage sales. Plus help to put Cirtran sales, revenue, and stock shares up there, where it belong. But our leader drop the ball. let's Just hope he can recover the fumble.
I'm not asking you or trying to get you to sell or keep your shares, because I will not sell my shares, or let anyone talk me out of my shares. Only the ones that I buy and trade on this end of the pool. I'm holding on to some long turn shares. I believe the Company does have a great product. That is about all I can say that is great about the company for right now. The company and it's pb product is not the problem, because to me Playboy Energy Drinks it's a goldmine.
It's our notorious leader. Now that's the "PROBLEM."
Yes, these companies has been out for years, but these companies had or have what we definitely don't have. Is a damn Good Chief executive officer. One who knows how to build and grow a company, and make it self sufficient and prosperous. Unlike our notorious leader. Who have slice into the cake while it was still in the oven baking. and cause the cake to fall by taking a large giant slice to feed his greedy and selfish enormous large belly. Those slices he had taken should've stayed in the oven to continuing baking and making the cake rise so it would've feed everybody, and still remand self sufficient and prosperous. No, not our leader, he were only probably thinking of no one but himself and family members.
I see nothing wrong if a ceo pays him/herself a salary with a fair portion of the profits if he/she has done a great job, and they deserve the pay. But not one who paid them self and family members a lavish salary and cause the company to suffering, because of it's greediness and selfish deeds. This company would've been a very prosperous self-sufficient company have he did the right thing. A good CEO would have use the money to grow and build the company. He/she would've not done what our leader done.
GLTA.
That is very strange. like you've mention before it is probably a glitch. What you can do is report this to the SEC and the London Stock Exchange. They might be able to help you with solving this strange finding of CIRC and CIRC-GB.
Mick, that Symbol is on the The London Stock exchange as CIRC-GB, STOCK "CIRCLE HOLDINGS PLC."
I'am not really sure on how much they could sell each month totally, but if I'm not mistaking I think the discount is at lease 15% of the lowest closing bid of the last 10 days period before they're giving their discounted converted shares. To be more precise I would recommend that you ask NASCOW or MFlores, they probably are more knowledgeable on the sell amount each month and probably know the exact discounted percentage. I read it once. I don't know about asking Money or HW.
NASCOW and MFlores seems to be more straight forward as I'am. The're many others that are straight forward on this board also.
Remember YA Global was given $100000 of discounted converted shares for payment for debt from Cirtran. It doesn't matter to YA to take a few thousand dollars loss selling shares they're not losing any principle, just a small amount of profit. Their're still making money. In their best interest it is best if they take some profit, especially if buyers start to dry up. A reverse split doesn't always work. Big toxic financing Companies like YA GLOBAL or in it to make money, like you had mention earlier. My opinion they don't care much about driving the pps down, just as long as they're making money.
In sub-pennyland there is plenty of money for these vultures to make off of corporations like Cirtran and others, because it is hard for them to get financing from regular banks and loan companies. These companies is just a little shy of being called a Loan Shark. I had seen toxin financing destroy Companies, and completely wipe out investors. No, they probably don't care at all. Just look at the new block number on 5.
This is YA dumping their converted discounted shares. They're the ones whom were sitting on the block wall at 5 yesterday, and they're back sitting on the wall again at 5. They took out 13mils on five with their 10000 block wall. I'am surprise they've not taken out the 4's.
Who ever said that YA GLOBAL was pay cash for this month, instead of given converted shares is not true. When they finish dumping their shares for this month then maybe the pps will go back up.
SEC, Where are the hand cuffs. Ooh where, ooh where are they. My investment is now worth less than a George Washington's one dollar bill. DAM! DAM! DAM! I were once a Newbie, now I'm a Brokie.
I like to give the thanks to Uncle K. The little big man.
How, Market Marker whom hide their large block behind a fictional number is last to get their shares sold or fill when another market marker is listing it's actual shares for sell or buying. For example if 10000 shares is showing on the asked to sell, but the actual number is probably a hided 10 million shares, let say the 10000 block showing was the first to list at .005, but someone show up wanting to sell 2 millions for the same price and someone else show up offering to sell 1 million, the 2 million will get sold before the 1 million and 10000 fictional block. The 10000 hided block will be the last to sell even if others come in and list it sale price for the same amount as the block. but not always so for true listing shares, some time the shares are rotated if sellers or buyers want to sell in one order only instead of divided into different order.
If you don't want other jumping in and selling before you do, than list your actual shares you are selling or sell in divided sell, not all in one sell only.
I hope this help, unless someone else can explain it better than what I just did.
Why? could it be that 4's are being fill, and while bother mentioning the 6's when 5 is on the ask with a wall. Some one mention about PB and the company. About PB planning on going thru with the court procedures . Let's put it like this, whom ever has money left when the other goes broke "WINS" This could take years folks.
Lets seen PB has its adult Playboy channels, it's own lingerie, it's Adults dvd and posters, toiletry, Oh, I forgot, let's not forget it own adult magazines that sales millions and millions of copies a year, and ect. On the other side lets see, the company has....it's shareholders to dilute the hack out of with it's toxic financing. Call A YA GLOBAL. Yes, the company has authorize shares to pay their bills with, while PB has billions. Some companies before they give you a dollar, they will spend millions to keep you from getting that dollar, whether they're right or wrong. In my own opinion I don't think PB is planning on giving The company and it's sorry leader anything.
I can answer that question for you, if you don't mind. The answer is "NO" if it involve questions that has to do with Play Bev litigation, that is "Confidentiality". Between client and attorney. Unless Play bev give their attorney written and sighed permission to answer your questions involving their legal matters.
No harm did. It would've been nice if it did average out to 4 millions per trade, better yet 40 millions per trade. YAG and the other debt collectors would have probably cash in all of it's August converted shares, and we would've been on our way up come Monday morning. Let's hope for much larger buys on Monday.
GLTY.
The total exact shares traded today was 4,411,600. average out to 400 thousands shares per trade.
You mean 400 hundred thousand average per trade today. The trading total for Cirtran shares was a little more then 4 millions shares traded today.
They're definitely not producing any new filled cans of Play Boy Beverage Drinks and selling any new cans of PBED. PERIOD. Other beverage, but not PBED. Go and investigate for yourself. Those are old cans they have on hand. In inventory.
The one who are stating that they have order and received the drinks is not saying that it is "Playboy energy drink. Listen and pay attention to their loop holes. The Company is not mention anything about it is still continuing producing to sell and selling new fresh cans of PLAYBOY ENERGY DRINKS.
What happen when the A/S reaches it's 'CAP' Cirtran can request for more authorize shares. A/S is a piggy bank for sub-penny and penny stocks. When they don't generate enough revenue to pay their bills and them-self. They bleed the shareholders with dilution of their shares by receiving more A/S and dumping them into the market. And if that does not work and the buyers start drying up, and the company can't dump many shares on the shareholders, next thing is a r/s or they file bankruptcy. Unless they can merge or find a buyer to buy out the company. The CEO doesn't seem to be that smart to do what is needed.
A r/s can wipe out many longs as myself. The outstanding shares now is 4 billions showing for now, but that will definitely be much, much more by next month. The company is paying their bills with shares. Mostly discounted converted shares. It's not looking good at all.
Cirtran is not selling any new PBED from fresh new production or manufacturing any new PBED and sell-releasing it into the market. This is very true. They're converting debt for discounted shares. They're paying their bills, debts using shares.
Thank you NAS, all I wanted was the truth. I'am already invested in CIRC. I don't need any misleading information to continuing on holding or investing in this company. I would just like to have a well qualifying CEO to operate Cirtran successfully.
We need a new WELL QUALIFIED CEO.
Yes it is going to fly, straight to hail. If you know what I mean less than 6 months ago ECDC did a reverse split at 0001. less than 6 months, now look where we're now sitting right at big ole .0002. I saw 1,800,000 million shares go down to less than 3800 shares. Shares that is 2.60 total. was once worth more than $4500.00.
Less than 6 months after a reverse split we're about to be at .0001 from where we started from just less than 6 months ago. Yes I keep mention less than 6 months ago. It's seen like many don't understand what others are saying or trying to say. This is a rinse and repeat. This pos make money off of selling shares and converting shares to pay for toxic financing.There are no real tangible products that ECDC has to offer to the shareholders and public that many want. It's rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, over, and over, and over again.
ECDC don't have any worth while products that the general world is interesting in having or owning, or using for services. Please read the post dated back too 1 year or 2 years ago. They have nothing "TANGIBLE" I once was one of those who invested in ecdc, and watch my investment go from thousands of dollars down to $2.60. I believed their misleading and false Press Releases. information on their webb. Most of it was a LIE!!
BUYERS BEWARE, DO YOUR DD (RESEARCH)
The press release mention nothing about sales of PBED, or if PBED is actually being produce and distributed. In quotes it mention new promise setting distribution agreements. AND... what does that ready means? And what about the over 4 billion outstanding shares.
The debts is not subtracted from the revenue. Why is the full report is not reported on the press release. showing the true cash on hand, cost of operation, losses, and ect for this quarter.
That sounds good to me also. Out to dinner. I'am going to order me the biggest thick Porterhouse steak my favorite steak restaurant has in it's kitchen, with plenty of saute onions and mushrooms on the side. While I'm saying grace I'm going to pray that Cirtran leader gets his act together and start digging for the gold nuggets out of CIRC.
Flores, you believe that YAG is shorting the stock, if so, they do have the shares to short this pos with. I can see them shorting it down to 3, but not at 2. there are many waiting to get in at 2. My opinion I think they might have a tough time getting back in at 2.
but 3 the door is wide open. I could be wrong about 2, but we will see. If they're shorting this pos. Then they might be planning on making the run with the traders. YAG can sell out their shares at any given point during the run, because their shares are discounted.
My opinion this can be a positive or negative event for the ones who are planning to trade this stock if YAG is shorting and buy back in around 2 or 3. It all depends on how high YAG will let it run after they get back in, and before they start cutting off traders in sells.
I couldn't have explain it better myself.
I don't thank so. I know if I had any kind of profit I would definitely take it now. I don't want to be in a race for profit while YAG is in the mix. remember as soon as midnight they could have been given their $100,000 of discounted converted shares.
Paid with cash!! From where. Cirtran doesn't have $100.000 of Cash showing anywhere.
Yes, tomorrow could be the big one. It will be August the 15th. We all know what that mean. It's pay day for YA GLOBAL. They're going to be paid hundreds of millions of converted discounted shares curtsy of CIRC. They shares could be giving to them midnight tonight. Remember it's debt for shares. $100,000 worth each month on the 15th.
I blame you, Biehner, and the gang.
Yes, they're probably finish diluting for this session, but stay tune for the day after tomorrow when Cirtran give them their next batch of $100,000 worth of discounted converted shares as agree on by both parties. To convert debt into shares. WOW!! I wonder what will the real outstanding shares will look like at the end of the week.
So make your money now, while you can. Because after the run it's back to YAG Time!!
GOOOOOOOOO Shareholders!!
Definitely mismanagement by our great leader and staff. The company is still a gold mine with hidden large nuggets. With the right CEO who can dig the nuggets out of the mines in large quanities and get it sold to many vendors around the world in large quanities. That will definitely generate high revenue for the company and get the price per share to where it should be.
Oh where art thy great leader and staff.
There is no way I will work for a company that has no major cash flow or great revenue from sales. Converting shares for debt doesn't count. You will need to rely on buyers to buy the converted shares. At this rate (pps)the company's toxic financing would scar me away. If the company decides to file for bankruptency again. One is stuck without getting paid. You'll have to wait until the company goes thru bankrupt procedures before you might get paid pennies on a dollar.