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Does anyone know what caused that enormous amount of volume on the 22nd? WoW... I see the bid is only 0002, but I also see that though the daily low
has hit 0002 a couple of times, most of the real volume happened at 0003 and 0004
And I see at least 700M demand on the bid, while I barely see 100M for sale on the ask-- I could not help but grab a postion (A TINY ONE)
Good luck everyone
I remember the huge run this had a year or two ago
Man that was huge
GO COWI
Oh, I didn't know we couldn't transfer shares to and from eachother from our brokerage accounts... I'm definitely still learning .... I thought maybe if I bought $100 blocks of this @ 00005, and if I was patient enough, I might be able to turn around and sell it for 0001 or so
I sure don't have anything to worry about, since I am out.. I do worry that I will miss a big run .... but I can handle that I suppose
I don't even know what to say about what I was seeing there at the bell
I guess I will listen to some exciting young person's music and relax with a nice cigarette
Am I the only one who notices the .0007 print for 250k shares is awfully suspicious... volume is right at 14.5M on the day
I will beat everyone to it, as I saw the 99 share print:
99 shashre print UM LIKE OH MY GEE ITZ SIGNALZZZZ
I see
Well I hadn't traded anything for a couple of days
So I bought (and sold) some other little ticker (L**T) today
Made a quick hundred though!!
Is there any bottom here? Any reasonable entry now, even for a flip???? I can't see it.... VNDM is on the ask a tick above the bid and showing a 500k ask size which is just as limitless as the 10k asks always are, it seems
The worst part is- it really DOES look like they are doing everything they can to scare people away from it, lately .... But I just can't bring myself to "throw money in the worthington hole"
I hope I don't miss a run but wow
Diluted into oblivion, always some dilutive MM shows up on the ask, etc
Sure it COULD run HARD but ...... what would be the catalyst
Sevens! WoW
Why on earth would debt holders need to accumulate shares? Don't they convert their debt into shares well below market price? Why would they be accumulating? Say what?
All I can say is, thank god I didn't get my 0008 yesterday, I was unhappy about that and now I couldn't BE more pleased that I didn't
If anyone has money they can't wait to do something with, get a hold of ME and I'll do something there is at least a chance of success with
To heck with stocks like WGAS
Yall should be out speculating on things like property, automobiles, diamonds, anyting
Look into storage units and trailer lots... don't buy trailers.. just the lots
If you have A LOT of capital, look into payday/title loans. You'll make money you cannot imagine.
Meanwhile my bid for WGAS is set @ 0004 ... good luck everyone!!!
I wish I could have an OTC listing- because I would put the money the hell into REAL business... the capital they raise here in these COULD be use to fund some REAL business activities
With what they have stolen I could have started several brick and mortar computer shops, automobile dealerships, and more. Heck- I could PROBABLY be in the payday loan business or at least a pawn broker by now!! Not to mention all of the storage units and trailer lots I could own .... I KNOW how to make money with money- I am amazing- what is more, I am not a greedy crooked POS
You know, honesty is an amazing angle. If WGAS told people- look it, I need $xxxxxx for _______ and I'm selling _____ shares .... people would buy .. Honesty is amazing .... like if you want to sleep with a woman, tell the woman, I want to sleep with you. Works a heck of a lot better than flowers and worn out lines. Trust me.
I would have the best OTC company ever in history and end up on a bigger exchange. No question.
But of course not, jokers like these monkeys always control them and they are the ones who end up having access to capital and credit
That saying about being tougher to make your first few grand than your first hundred is VERY true
Sigh.
Oh my lord 28M more @ 0008
A 5M trade just printed at 0008
Then they painted the tape with a 10k buy @ 0010
My lord it is bleeding to death
Bid support disappearing
Here came nines
Then BLAM
5M eights
Saw etrade has a 20M bid @ 0002
There goes another 2M @ 0009
WoW
This stock is turning on us quicker than one of my exes turning on me
Forget it, VFIN is on the ask @ 0013 again, retail is bidding 0010-0012
Along with 2M retail ask @ 0013 and another nearly 4m @ 0015
I wouldn't touch this with borrowed equipment right now
Look at the action now some prints at 0013 and look at that LII
The thing is- they are so good at making it LOOK like it is ready to run--- how the heck do you ever know when the real one is happening?
I can't be chasing the cat like some square .... men who do that end up buying cars and houses and flowers while SOMEONE is sleeping with the mail man
That's real talk
Feel me
YO
LoL!!!!
Now I am pretty sure that I regret missing some 0008 and 0009 yesterday
Then I am trying to buy some sharezzz of another pos company and MAXM shows up on the bid
:(
AON orders don't show on the LII I look at.. you saying that they show on yours? What is your opinion on all of this "shorting" everyone is talking about? I see the chart about the short volume, but I am not convinced that it is an indicator of actual short POSITIONS ... what say you?
Well, good luck today everyone
All I see thus far is a 20k print @ 0011 and a 10k print @ 0011
Etrade wants 5M @ 0001
VNDM and three retail asks all @ 0011
I'm hoping to get some eights
Looks like just shy of 1M 001 just went off
Nothing changed on LII (if it's updating properly)
There goes another 1M 001
Came off the ETRF bid this time
There goes another 1.5M 001
HUGE nearly 9M T-Trade @ 0009 showed up at 4:13:35
(8,636,000)
WoW
Good luck, everyone!! I'm not allowed to post any more today!!! But I will be WATCHING and LURKING like a CREEPY PERSON though :)
GO WGAS
I am baffled and amazed at todays trading and at some of the things being said about WGAS
I do sort of wish that I would have caught those 0008s now (I think)
SOMETHING is DEFINITELY going on here. I sure WISH I knew exactly WHAT. I can't really even logically describe what I'm talking about but the trading just "feels different" - that may sound stupid - but I know that I'm noticing something I'm not noticing, see.
SOMEDAY when I have more trading experience, I will know what I'm talking about in that above paragraph- beause I will know why I'm noticing what- and then I will be a force to be reckoned with over here. I'll probably write a guru book and be on your television at 3am selling to you my program :)
Can anyone shed some light on the short selling idea? It says short volume went up on that chart, right, well are those now actual short POSITIONS or just shares that were shorted in the course of making trades happen .... or what?
I don't think "short volume" tells us as much as we're often lead to believe in pennyland.
I don't believe pie in the sky nonsense I keep hearing either, and I don't know how the people saying it don't crack up laughing at themselves ... maybe they are .. laughing at everyone else who's taking it seriously
In spite of all of that though, who knows, this COULD be primed for a big run. All logic defies the reasonable probability of it- but if it happens I guess it could happen. I sure HOPE I end up having a position if and when that could ever happen- I could use some good "luck" one time in my damned life, for once, ever ;)
GO WGAS
PS: I guess I am not going to catch any 0008 :(
I would half consider an entry at 0009
Looks like even that will be ruined by retail on the bid
Sigh
GO WGAS ANYWAY
Something extremely mysterious is going on... I can feel it.. I wish I knew what it was
I think it's either going to run like hell or take a huge beating
So helpful knowing that
I guess¿
Good lord 0008x0009 now
What a mess
I hope I don't end up with no shares in case it would run though
Sigh
They're dumping 0008s now!! 2.5M just printed as I type this!
I have no idea of where I would want to find an entry here
0005?
Or is it going to recover at least back to 0010-0015 range?
Who knows
Some 0009 printed
Only about 1.5M
But it happened
WoW
I highly doubt that it will fill, but I have an order in for .0006
Maybe in the next few days or longer I suppose
In the interim,
GO WGAS
PS: It's interesting to think that single ticks are nearly 10% moves at this point
For how long do you expect that 70M will be "alot of stock" relative to the pretty much daily o/s increases that this company has been known for, for years now?
Also, if those aren't making their way into the float, where do VFIN and VNDM and BKRT get their infinate asks from?
That makes perfect sense.. I know that they get to "convert" at a price well below retail, something about x% of the lowest price over the past X days... right
I guess it also makes sense that rather than trying to get their shares sold off and hoping they can do it without crashing the thing, why not let the pros handle it they're thinking ... so they sell to MMs at a discount then, probably somewhere between their discounted price and retail?
And the MMs then go out there and carefully dose the poison
Basically instead of shooting investors brains to pieces with a .454 casull, they are giving them a tiny bit of metal in their coffee every morning
Like that lady on the television program who slowly poisoned her husband... The food was good tasting, but good, that food was NOT
This is always so interesting
I didn't mean NEWS
I meant news
I understand what you're saying completely- I would not believe anything this company said, not ever in my life, not even if the pps went to a dollar and steadily climbed to forty dollars over the next ten years
If the monkeys at the switches in this mess put out a PR saying that the sky is blue, I would go and find investments in atmospherical illusions
It makes perfect sense if it is a BUYER refusing to wait, he wants his shares the hell NOW- BEFORE that news comes out.. then again, at the same time you're calling it all a DUMP .... if it is a huge DUMP, then the dumper would WANT TO wait-- wouldn't he?
Of course I have assumed that who/what ever this entity is KNEW about the news coming out .. in both instances ... aren't I
Still not clear on what caused that huge volume
Edit: And then again, I kind of missed the gist of what you are saying... you're talking about completely prearranged transactions with a buyer/seller already matched and a predetermined date on the whole thing ..... I think?
I'm tired again and should not be communicating anything to or with anyone
Sorry
You can't trade over the counter stocks after the bell, but I thought that T-Trades had to be printed within 1:30 of the bell, and something about something could make it okay if it was as late as three minutes out..... I've never seen one THAT late
I wonder what caused that
Doesn't look like an untoward action to me though - it's 2M @ 0015
Not a huge buy
Not a huge sell
That is ridiculous
How in all hell can it ever go up if the float goes up 10% in a day
WoW
It went from 370M to 405M the next day?
That is unreal
Am I even reading that right?
I agree with all of that but why was there 80M volume the day BEFORE news came out? That part is what I keep trying to figure out
Oh- you meant exchange tiers, which is exactly what you said, sorry - I am doing too many things at once!! I feel stupid now!!! Hahaha
LIII would be WONDERFUL to have. If I could see all of the underlying data, I could make a fortune
Which is why it is so expensive, I would imagine :)
PS: Out of posts for today but good luck everyone!! BKRT is gone for now .. the 0011 bids mostly got taken out and only a bit over 2M shares on the ask under 0016 (where VNDM is) and then next ask is 0048
GO WGAS and GOOD LUCK
I made money trading wgas AGAIN
I'm shocked and amazed
(I sold the last bit @ 0011 because I ain't sure of when BKRT will stop spewing 0012s, and not sure when I can be at the computer or not and I wanted to be sure and clear everything today so I can try for a boat load of 0009 or 0010 tomorrow --- I'm subject to PDT because most things in my country are so crooked and stupid these days)
I want back in but with BKRT on the ask @ 0012 and selling several million thus far and the HUGE amount of trading yesterday @ 0011 and 0010 --- it all makes me shy back a little - I sure hope I don't miss a run :( When the dilutive MMs get up off of its neck it DOES look VERY thin
GO WGAS
Hidden orders? You mean that they don't even show up on the LIII book I have heard about? Or tier2 IS level 3?
(I will google it all later, but I'm pretty busy right now working on five computers at once and need to have them listed by the time normal people start getting off of work)
GO WGAS
I'm out for now.. I saw BKRT show up with twelves and just got rid of the shares I had left... I will be trying to get back in though!!! Can I have some 0009 maybe ... please :D
GO WGAS
That seems to make sense- you're essentially saying that the MMs set a price where they can all make money- and that the debt holders want to get the **** out at a certain point before they end up being bag holders?
All of that makes sense to me- but- when they decide to do a HUGE dump, where do the buyers come from? They are looking at LIII book and saying, well, we have $xx,xxx orders @ $.00xx and so let's go ahead and dump our $xx,xxx worth of shares on X day @ $.00xx ??
And that is why the buyers appear to have come from nowhere? Right? Because you and me cannot see anything but LII?
wgas
I don't understand that at all
Flooding the ask would be counter productive
If I have a pile of shares I want to sell to you, I'm going to spoon feed them to you and squeeze higher prices outta ya
Are you making the argument, well, debt holders just don't think like traders... or what?
Please excuse my ignorance if I am missing something here
But it seems like it is just like this guy I use to know who loaned cash out to idiots ... he didn't want it back all at once, he wanted a lot more over some time
Like banks, they don't want you to pay your debt down, they want to collect interest forever if it is possible
I understand, well, debt holders want a quicker kill for their prey
But ... we're talking about a matter of a few more days to make a lot more money if they DON'T flood it all at once, aren't we?
wgAS