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"I never believed the pump would come on the day after Cen-1's shares came off restriction. Never." BULL CRAP!!!!!! You said there was going to be a pump multiples of times this year!!!!! THE POSTS WILL PROVE IT!!! I'll repost every post you posted stating a pump and you will suddenly remember what you said but will have some sort of extraordinary excuse why it didn't happen.
CEN-1 did not do it twice. David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster did it twice and this is why CEN-1 didn't do it;
Cen-1 did not do the first pump. They did not have a reason to. They were owed money by David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster and they have to be paid on the loan. They had not converted the shares until the end of August. The first pump was in March. David and Peter did it to lure investors into NSL for their own benefit. Who else would have done it????
The second pump was done on August 1. Right at the same time David Saltrelli was trying to convince Cen-1 to convert the loan to shares. David Saltrelli pumped the second time to show Cen-1 that a conversion would be worth their while. The conversion to shares did not happen until the end of August. Over three weeks after the pump. Highly doubt Cen-1 would pump it to bring the share price down. It would have gone down on it’s own as it has.
Even if Cen-1 paid for the pump , What about the Steady stream of PRs that went along the pumping ....
Go back and check these PRs and U will find that they were all Issued by David himself ....
.... HE KNOWS ABOUT EVEY SINGLE PUMP FOR NSAV EITHER BY DOING IT OR SUPPORTING IT ....
David Saltrelli changed the ticker to change the association of the company as a pump and dump. He can pump it as a different company. To apply more rationale to that, he changed the company from a shell company on the 25 of July which is right around the same time as the ticker change to wash his hands from the whole association from the pumping. With practical, logical, factual information, Cen-1 didn't have anything to do with the ticker change or changing it from a shell company so what does that possibly have to do with Cen-1 at all? It doesn't so that view certainly doesn't fly at all. David Saltrelli had everything to do with the ticker and shell company change.
I will file three complaints and I will put David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster in jail.
Maybe, maybe not...? You can have him file complaints to the three listed groups I had listed in the last posting? Take David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster off the map and in jail where they should be??
That means nothing. Assets are totally skewed and mean nothing. Assets mean office, chairs, computers...nothing and his offices are fake!!!!! David Saltrelli has nothing!!!!! His assets are based on what David Saltrelli states they are worth. $280,739.00 the year before!!!!! They are doing worse this year then last year and that's bad.
BLAH BLAH BLAH is all I hear coming out of your mouth. "There will be some down periods, and down days." NO CRAP. Just like legitimate stocks but legit stock have much more potential. You have now pushed the pump back another month. What is going to happen when that doesn't come to fruition? I guess you will add another month or maybe a year before it does what you say it's going to do.
Now answer me this, Tiger has averaged down his share price based on your advice and stated pump in August but RIGHT NOW the share price has dropped. Now you are telling Tiger to wait another month and perhaps another year? You have no clue!!!!!!! BLAH BLAH BLAH and may have screwed Tiger over in hopes to gains for yourself. NOT COOL AT ALL!!!!!!!!! CRAP!!!!!!!!!
You are a conniving man, Russ. All you posted is crap. NSAV is still in debt for $111,671.00. They have less worth and more debt then from last year. That to me is not a good thing.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1432176/000100201412000391/R2.htm
$368 in the bank is better than what NSAV has. I believe they are still in the negative and that's after all the shares they made deals with. NSAV, David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster SUCK!!!!!!!!
$368 in the bank is better than what NSAV has. I believe they are still in the negative and that's after all the shares they made deals with. NSAV, David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster SUCK!!!!!!!!
Yeah. Me too. I would not listen to the people on this board. They are looking out for themselves and they are talking people into buying more. Some opinions not worth a single dime; It's a real company. Now, it's a P&D. One of the people on this board, was informed to purchase more and average down their stock because it will be pumped last October...December...February...March...June...August but now the person that advised him to invest more says it may be another year or two? The people on this board are only looking out for themselves and their advice and opinions are only to have more people invest for their own benefit. This person also posted on the board that the reason the share price is going down is because the owner is trying to get the people that don’t like the stock to sell so only the serious are involved. NOT TRUE AT ALL!! No one ever wants to get rid of business and share holders. They are the one’s that pay for the company and their salaries. Leave the new and/or naive holding the empty bag.
At this point, wait and hope your son can recuperate some of his investment. That’s all I can do too except for what I am doing. File (3) complaints, one with the SEC, one with the Attorney General and one with Pinellas County, where David Saltrelli lives.
It is not advantageous to invest more on a stock so volatile and questionable whether anything is ever going to happen.
August 14, 2012 - APS has gone through some changes recently. Following an accusation of spamming, 3rd party emailer, iContact, has dropped the APS newsletters as a client and now Get Response has taken over email dissemination responsibilities. A series of website host server repositions has also taken place, zig zagging the world from Costa Rica to Singapore to Canada and to Berlin. Certainly, there is an attempt to conceal the actual location from which APS is conducting their operations.
There also purports to be a change of management at APS.
Certainly, there has been a lot of pressure on APS for the hundreds of millions of dollars that they have defrauded from the public in their promotion of worthless companies. We are not certain that it is not this pressure that has caused this recent game of hide and go seek and perhaps precipitated the need to appear as if a change of management has taken place. The answer as to whether an actual change of management has taken place, will be provided by market maker Wilson Davis & Co, as we will show below.
I totally disagree with you. I do not see his views as correct. Especially after he has updated his view and his opinion over hundred times to suit the situation.
You have no clue what is going to happen either. You are waiting and hoping and that's about all you can do. Trying to figure out what is going on is quite useless. To hear anyone, especially Russ with his constantly changing opinions from, "this is a real company," to this is a piece of crap," to the pump will happen this month and now it's going to happen in the next year or two. Slowly but surly. BULL CRAP. FG, you can defend Russ all you want but until anything that happens remotely to anything Russ has stated as opinion in the past, it's ALL BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH is all I hear. What is the point of this posting?? Seems like you are trying to inform Cen-1 what they should do in YOUR OPINION?? I highly doubt they even read this board so who exactly are you talking to?
When has their press releases had a good response on the price of stock besides the TWO pumps? FACT; if we base the success of the press releases on the company's success, the company should be right where they are now.
The same applies to you. We are entitled to our own opinions and that is mine.
I wasn't talking to you and if you don't like it, don't read or reply to it.
Russ, the things you say are such bull crap!!!!!!!!
You have NO CLUE but love to spew words of your mindless, incorrect opinion. You flip sides, you defend David Saltrelli and claim the company to be legit. A week later you say it's a pumper. When there is no pump, you claim it will be next month and when that doesn't happen...the month after. Now you say they are trying to get rid of investors?? That is absolutely asinine. Who in the hell wants to get rid of investors??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? That's who David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster want left holding the empty bag. Not themselves. Someone has to hold that empty bag and in David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster's eye's, it's not going to be them.
Now you are saying a year long pump???????????!!!!!!!!!! A crazy conspiracy of much proportions, work and effort??? BULL CRAP!!!!!!!David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster will not spend that effort, time and their own money. Why do you think they have pumped and dumped over 65 company's in 20 years??? They do not want to work for a living. They do not want to spend their own effort, time and money. They only want to take advantage of other's money, effort and time they spent working for a living.
Where the hell do you come up with any of this crap???? Enlighten me, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOUR THINKING IS SOOOOOOOOOO FAR OFF!!!!!!!
It seems you are trying to convince yourself that if there not a large pump, the reason why is because David Saltreli and Peter Schuster are going for a convoluted, time consuming, effort engulfing pump!!!!!!!! WHAT?????
h yea, and this board affects the share price??? No one said anything negative for a month and the stock went to it's lowest. But when there is negative talk on the board, the downed stock is because the naysayers?? BULLCRAP!! That's proof!!!!!!
This is not the side that is normally seen by you Ozone? Do you or anyone have a website for Family CoOps?
If FG is only thinking one step ahead, where do you stand?
By the way, you always mention legalities but I guarantee you David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster are NOT playing by the legal rules of trading. He HAS broken several laws and has misinformed investor's multiples of times and that's not playing by the rules. I DO have examples but can not inform you of them right now due to filing my (2) complaints.
Maybe your golden rule for what you think people think??
Why would that affect anything? He's out to make his buck and you say he's an honest man so why would there be any issues?
You are leaving out the fact that within the past 20 years he has had OVER 65 company's of which most all failed. Don't leave that out
No offense but it seems a little strange the way it's going. I'm pretty certain a pump will come around sooner or later but this certainly doesn't look like it...
No Russ. You have no clue what's going on here. I don't care what is legal or not. Doesn't mean anything. Doesn't mean David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster aren't breaking the law. They have had several instances already breaking the law and misstating information. I will not give you examples. You will find out later how far I went with filing things. Just remember how angry I was and think that distance with filing.
No crap on David and Peter not using their own money. I believe that is what I said.
Looks like it???? Seems to be going downward?? What up with that prediction?
Bull crap
I don't believe that is the case with this pump and dump, to be used as standard practice at all.
He's going to use it for his benefit by giving shares away to his friends and have them sell them since he can only sell so much every so often due to his restrictions. He doesn't have enough time to unload due to his restriction. And by the way, it's not your standard .0001 but .00001.
WIKI - "Par value is the minimum price per share that shares must be issued for in order to be fully paid. Typically recommend that par value be set at $0.001 or $0.0001 per share. Thus, if a founder purchases 8,000,000 shares of common stock, the minimum price that the founder has to pay is $8,000 at $0.001 per share or $800 at $0.0001 per share. Par value can even be set lower, such as $0.00001 per share, in order to minimize the amount paid for founders which would be $80.00.
He paid less for 100,000,000,000 shares than I did for 6,6550 shares. No loss for him at all. It's everyone else's money he played with.
This low par value is not a good thing. That's all I'm saying
Would you expect anything less? You've been here long enough to know what's up.
I just read the 8-K and it is very screwed up.
Doesn't even sound legal??
Making the value of shares .00001 is unheard of!!! Gas prices don't even play that way but unfortunately David Saltrelli does...for now, hehehehe. Homey(me) don't play dat way!!!! hehehe
He's going to give them to his friends so he doesn't get stuck with too many when the dump occurs. He can't sell them so he gives them away.
What does that matter? Showing the next quarter's earnings, August 31, can only hurt the stock. It will show negative earnings which will not look good for NSAV.
You are wrong;
Cen-1 did not do the first pump. They did not have a reason to. They were owed money by David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster and they have to be paid on the loan. They had not converted the shares until the end of August. The first pump was in March. David and Peter did it to lure investors into NSL for their own benefit. Who else would have done it????
The second pump was done on August 1. Right at the same time David Saltrelli was trying to convince Cen-1 to convert the loan to shares. David Saltrelli pumped the second time to show Cen-1 that a conversion would be worth their while. The conversion to shares did not happen until the end of August. Over three weeks after the pump. Highly doubt Cen-1 would pump it to bring the share price down. It would have gone down on it’s own as it has.
Even if Cen-1 paid for the pump , What about the Steady stream of PRs that went along the pumping ....
Go back and check these PRs and U will find that they were all Issued by David himself ....
.... HE KNOWS ABOUT EVEY SINGLE PUMP FOR NSAV EITHER BY DOING IT OR SUPPORTING IT ....
David Saltrelli changed the ticker to change the association of the company as a pump and dump. He can pump it as a different company. To apply more rationale to that, he changed the company from a shell company on the 25 of July which is right around the same time as the ticker change to wash his hands from the whole association from the pumping. With practical, logical, factual information, Cen-1 didn't have anything to do with the ticker change or changing it from a shell company so what does that possibly have to do with Cen-1 at all? It doesn't so that view certainly doesn't fly at all. David Saltrelli had everything to do with the ticker and shell company change.
David Saltrelli promised investors of several business strategies to make the company more visible which in turn caused current investors to invest more in hopes to cost average down their initial investment and to accrue potential investors.
He also made the site business to business to take away the need to promote to the consumer masses. This gives him a scapegoat to not have to follow through with his business strategies made to investors and potential investors which in turn gives him the ability to save his money.
David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster do not have a reason to make NSL successful. They owe no money to anyone and get a paycheck. They will not spend any money so they can continue to receive a paycheck. It would certainly be a different story if they did owe money. They would apply more effort to make NSL profitable so they could pay back their loan.
65+ company’s in 20 years. That’s over two companies a year. Most failed, one settled out of court? Something’s not right with their venture history?
Why is it important to have the ticker symbol on the website unless you are trying to sell the stock??
Damn dude, you're looking very schweeeeeet!!!! Congrats!!! All you need is .03 and you bank!!!!
Russ, I'm not accusing you of anything. I am merely stating the fact that you do not know when, if ever, NSAV will ever be pumped? More than likely will but you are mentioning dates and by fact, you have no clue when, if ever, and that's not an accusation but a fact. Nothing wrong with aiding people with facts to keep the opinions separate for investor's knowledge. That's all.
No accusations...
The gift and incentive market in the U.S. last year was over $31 billion dollars.
The gift and incentive program for NSAV was in the negative. The whole company was in the negative last year.
Who gave you this news or is this your opinion? Fair question.
Then you should do what you need to do to make it go up because it's not doing anything and has nothing to do with what people say. Only has to do with the two con artists, David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster. Blame it on anyone you can Russ except the one that is to blame, DUUUUUUUHHHH. There you go again, supporting David Saltrelli and his BS lies!!!!!!!!! You go Russ, NOOOOT!!!!!!!!!
Bull!!! You can say what you want. Especially if it's DD backed. I will say anything I want too. This board does not affect the price of stock and that's a fact. That is also what Russ, one of two of the people that believe anything that David Saltrelli said in the first place which were most all lies anywho. David Saltrelli is a lying con artist and there's nothing else to say except he will end up in jail within the next year.
Have you looked up the guy? He's nothing!!! A infomercial book sales dude like the people that sell the dang whosywhatsy. He's a damn loser like David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster. The only thing, he's not going to do is go to jail like David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster. hehehehe
He's nothing, like one of many times David Saltrelli Stated to his investors that he, David Saltrelli, was going to do something (can't remember, too many and don't feel like looking into my archives)to better the company and never did anything he stated to investors.
By the way, does Wakabayashi have restricted shares or can they sell/have sold?
True dat
What about Southridge, Wakabayashi and the two cons, themselves, of course
Hopefully you're right? Time will tell.
Yeah, I did hide it. Holy Crap!!! Almost like David Saltrelli is paying to try and keep his friends close and his enemies closer, eh (Canadian style).
Not sure what you're talking about? Only see like 50,000 monitors now? A couple maybe put here for David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster's aid? Maybe...?????
Something fishy... after 2 weeks of paid board bombing, the guy comes on the board today and say, "Glad to join the party today... The chart looking PRIME for a run here imo!!" Word to word of his post. A little late for the past board pump. Maybe a lingerer? He know's more than he's saying. Almost feeling something or another out? Something fishy. Just can't put my finger on it yet? It will come to me. He's also kissing ass like he's trying to get close to the opposition or something? I'll figure it out...maybe? Almost like a Wito or Stockman kinda deal?
Definitely not the friendliest but I do have a lot of stuff on the two CEOs.
I will tell you this; in August you may want to keep an eye on NSL because there should be probably the larger of pumps come between mid-August to mid-September sometime and that's when you want think about putting some money in before it start climbing but that is just my opinion and has been wrong in the past.