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Then buy it.
Oh wait
I guess the $0.0053’s just failed.
SFOR is headed to less than $0.0010.
A buy now is a dead mans play.
Do NOT buy this dip.
There is no dip here.
PEIX ran from $0.22 to over $11.00.
They actually topped out at $11.44 which coincidentally is 10 code for Dead On Arrival here in San Diego.
Since then it’s fallen almost daily and hit a new low of $5.80 today.
They priced a $75 million dollar offering and they should have used cash on hand to purchase their stock but instead this new money hungry CEO decided to place the burden of available cash on shareholders.
Once again, PEIX has chosen to use shareholders instead of good old fashioned actual work.
I can see PEIX at under $1.00 per share based on this crap.
By the way...
Before you decide to buy...
call their corporate office. You’ll get voicemail all day long during normal working hours.
That voicemail will prompt you to press 1 for investor relations and you’ll get another voicemail.
Leave a message. They won’t call you back.
Once you’ve done that, then you can decide to invest.
No thanks.
This is as solid of an “avoid” as I can see.
You’ve no idea what pain is in store for any trader or long investor when a sub penny stock is still trying to complete a $2.5 million dollar share offering.
This thing is headed back to the trips.
Enjoy your losses and quit telling people it’s a buy.
That makes no sense!
Why would you be waiting to buy a known penny stock scam as soon as it falls to $0.005 or below when it has proven that it will go below that and even further ONLY to keep falling?
Spend that money on a good stock. May I suggest an ETF that shorts the Nasdaq or DOW or S&P?
Don’t buy SFOR.
Do you want to know why SFOR ran from $0.003 to over a penny?
They ran that far because they were front running share sales. Now they’re done. And since they finished the stock has cratered from $0.0130 to $0.005’s and it’s not going to stop there.
SFOR has 2.5 million dollars worth of shares to unload so if you think $0.005’s are the bottom, think again.
Okay.
I have no idea what you just said. I doubt you do too.
SFOR is a scam and anyone who bought into the “returned shares to the treasury” scheme is going to lose money.
Returning shares to the treasury? Oh that would be nice if they also said “oh, and by the way, we finally made some profitable revenue.”
But they didn’t!
SFOR spent shareholder money via an issuance of dilutive shares to pay whatever fee it costs to return shares to the treasury.
Where did they get the money????
OHHHHHHHH WAIT... from their $2.5 million dollar offering...
Sheeeeeeesesh.
Why would they be on the breakout board?
How about the breakdown board?
Only down 55% over the last two sessions on a worthless pump and dump where they said they returned some shares to “the treasury”.
Frankly I’m surprised it held the $0.005’s today.
Still no product.
Still no revenue generating patent.
Still just selling shares to pay themselves.
Be happy if you sell with a profit or be happy that you cut your losses here.
The shorts barely hold 3.5% of the float.
Even if all short positions had to cover it’d be worth a blip...a barely green day on a chart otherwise buried in red.
Less than 1.8 million shares short.
That’s less than 25% the average daily volume to cover.
I personally love the stock and the new direction with alcohol and sanitizers and the shift away from ethanol.
I initiated a new position yesterday @$6.05 so I’m long SFOR but I have some questions for PEIX:
1.) The HC Wainwright connection seems super shady to me. How can a management company like HC hold a position that wasn’t disclosed and then issue such a lofty share price target without it being insider trading or at the very least a conflict of interest?
2.) Why would PEIX offer $75 Million in shares? At the time of the filings the stock had soared from $0.22 to over $4.00 per share. Why not use the cash on hand to buy back their own shares? Why dilute the shareholder?
3.) Yes, a run from $0.22 to $11.44 is nothing to complain about BUT what about the investors who bought years ago at $15.00 or $19.00 and suffered massive losses from those prices down to $0.22?
Those investors finally saw a glimmer of hope on this monster run to $11.44 only to see the stock priced nearly cut in half ($5.92 yesterday) over the last few days because of this highly dilutive offering.
Like I said, I’m long PEIX but these are serious concerns. I would love to see SFOR be a long term play for me but I’ll sell the moment a profitable trade turns into a break even event or a loss.
It’s not about looking or finding it somewhere because it’s all over the news and filed with the SEC.
They are changing their name but they haven’t said what it will be.
They are not leaving the ethanol/renewable fuels space but they are shifting product priorities.
All of this sounds great BUT this WC Rainwright business has me worried.
WC was involved in a securities placement for PEIX while giving them an upgrade on the stock and giving them a $16.50 price target.
Is this HC Wainwright upgrade insider trading?
I don’t see how it’s legal to have a stake in the company common stock and then issue an upgrade.
Then once the agreement is terminated the stock craters by nearly 40%.
My two labs had plenty of runs in them in their hay day.
Now they’re old and want to rest and eat and wag their tail with a back or ear scratch.
They used to love being outside and roaming and wandering the hillsides. Now, all they want to do is come inside and lie down and avoid the SoCal heat.
Sfor had its day.
The chart beats proof to that. Lots of runs in its past.
The heavily dilutive measures that Mark Kay has signed longs up for will ensure that runs above $0.0040 just cannot mathematically happen.
This Reg A is the death of every single last common share investor.
Bwaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa
There are no catalysts!
Low float?
The float rises daily because Mark, George, and Ram are figuring on retiring so they are signing any “investor” up for monstrous dilution!
You won’t see $0.0080 again until after their next reverse split.
Here’s how it works:
Step 1:) do a reverse split and claim its to go to a major exchange.
Step 2.) Offer 750 million shares
Step 3.) get those shares sold then dilute the crap out of them.
Step 4.) Issue two back to back utterly meaningless press releases (seriously folks... they could turn a profit with their software for 21 years in the USA and now they’re approved for a patent in some other country and it’s a big deal...like suddenly now after 21 years they’re going to turn a profit?)
Step 5.) stock price sees a rally...dilute into it.
Step 6.) sit back and rake in the money while moms and pops take the heat.
Step 7.) let mom (probably pops though) try to pitch this stock to every one he knows and now they all lose money and make for a really awkward family reunion.
Textbook stuff man.
Me?
Personally?
Mark Kay started this stock scheme over 21 years ago. I cannot wait til it’s finally finished.
Enjoy your SFOR $0.0069’s.
You won’t be seeing that price anytime soon because Mark and George and Ram already diluted the crap out of that price.
I can’t believe how so few see that this two PR event was nothing more than a very typical SFOR pump and dump.
Now so many are going to lose too because Mark Kay believes in suckers being born every minute.
$0.0070 with a low of $0.0066.
What was the latest high?
And now it’s been sold off?
Sooooooo?
It took off from $0.0032 towards $0.02 on news that proved neither revenue or sales.
(That’s called a baseless pump)
Now it’s sold from the $0.02 range to $0.0066 on no news of sales or revenue while the O/S increased volumetrically
(That’s called a dump)
Some are saying “ohhhhh it’s just profit taking)
They’re not wrong: that’s how you make money on a stock trade; you sell when you’re in profit.
It’s funny how upside down traders try to shame “profit takers”.
Why are you trading SFOR if not for a profit?
Sfor is an absolute scam stock!
Cmon! The company has been publicly traded for 21 years and they have never actually had a profit.
All they do is issue shares, pay each other, then do reverse splits and claim they have dreams of trading on a major exchange!
Think about this:
When Mark Kay was 21 years younger, he dreamt up this penny stock scam.
Now, on the edge of a massive retirement check (courtesy of ever faithful, SFOR LONGS) he’s going to cash out Witt George and Ram with a massive share issuance ALL THE WHILE SFOR HAS NOT EARNED A PROFITABLE PENNY IN 21 years.
Get a grip folks...
You’ve been robbed
Bwaaaaaa haaaaaaaa
Sfor is a pump and dump penny stock scam.
I sold at $0.0153 and then kinda questioned myself because it ran higher.
I took a mini vacay for a few days and figured I’d see if it’s still running and it’s collapsed.
Now it’s at $0.0060 and I couldn’t be happier with my trade.
Now there’s a whole new laundry list of brand new longs who’ll probably swear SFOR is a legit company while they lose every penny.
SFOR is about to break into the $0.005’s and it still isn’t a buy.
Ahhhhhhh
I see !
I accidentally responded to one of your posts when I thought I was making a new post.
I wasn’t responding to your post on purpose.
You were an accident.
You were a fat finger.
If wearing a social media condom could stop stuff, then our conversation would be a direct result of forgetting to put that social media condom on or it breaking.
Either way...
I don’t care!
I made money today.
I didn’t buy the bottom of this stock but I was close.
I actually think that based on 24 years of professional trading experience something is going to boost this stock.
Fundamentals?
Not if they don’t change.
Hype?
Call Robin Hood or any other freebie investment site and see if that ship sailed...
Something is going on with it.
What?
I don’t know.
All I know is I’m happy to be a part of it and if it doesn’t work out then I’ll sell and you’ll never have to worry about lil o-me.
Good for you.
I’ve no doubt that GNUS is overvalued.
I’ve never said they were undervalued.
What I’m trading GNUS for is that they’ve signed up Samsung and have been hiring.
Hiring is one thing if you’re paying salaries with shares.
Signing up Samsung is an entirely different matter.
Like I said...I discredits illegitimacy complaints from lawsuits and it lends to SAMSUNG doing better due diligence then you could ever hope to accomplish.
If I’m wrong...so be it.
So far...I’m right. I’m right by quite a bit.
Have a nice day.
Okay...
I really don’t care.
I am making money on my GNUS trade.
I’m
Not going to argue the merits of a long position or a short position.
You eroded it to gambling while you gambled and lost?
So it’s gambling because you lost?
Had you won, it would have been sage and sound investing or trading?
That’s suitable hypocrisy.
I bought GNUS.
FYI:
For months I’ve been telling EVERYONE I knew to stay away from it.
Not because it’s a fraud or a scam.
It went from $0.05 to around $11.00 and everyone was saying “sign up for this stupid investment trading platform and buy it”...
Well...
That’s EXACTLY when you sell or avoid.
Old phrase:
When your shoe shine boy is giving you stock advice, get out.
Anyway...
I own it now.
I’m up.
I hope she keeps on climbing and who knows: maybe Samsung will sway a judge or two to drop cases.
Okay...
Well, sharing ad revenue is terrific.
Especially with Samsung.
I’d have to walk around my house and look in every room to tell you how many Samsung products there are.
GM is not pulling out of Nikola.
Could the CEO be as bad as they say? Sure!
But GM sure did a lot of research and wanted the tech.
If they got scammed it is on a Bernie Madoff level.
Same with Samsung.
They’re one of the largest tech companies in the world. I doubt they just got in bed with some hooker with a Kartoon idea.
The lawsuits aren’t about proving whether or not GNUS has a viable idea...it’s a bunch of money hungry attorneys claiming they’ll get “investor money back”.
In exchange for getting any money back, each of those law firms will collect a nice little percentage.
They’re in it for the money.
You just said that GNUS is in Android, iOS, online, and in APPS...you mentioned a few others.
So...I’d say that GNUS is well positioned to come out with the next POKE-MON-GO.
They’re definitely hiring some talent that created other pop-sensations.
A small software company which was a go-no-where stock added to a multi billion dollar gaming industry and now they’re listed and trading for hundreds of millions.
Maybe GNUS is well positioned for a smash hit.
Maybe they’re well positioned and squander it.
Maybe they’re well positioned and maybe Samsung adds legitimacy to their company which simultaneously eroded a lawyers argument.
What I know is this:
GNUS got backed by some big hitters.
It ran froM $0.05 per share to over $11.00.
A lot of dumb money jumped in. Maybe some got out with profit but most got burned to a crisp.
Lawyers “protecting the little guy...the moms and pops...the grandmas and grandpas” are actually hurting those people more than helping all while claiming to have their best interest at heart.
If their best interest is truly at heart then show me one firm willing to forgive attorney fees if they win.
Now GNUS is just over a buck.
I’m not “long” GNUS and I’m no “investor” in GNUS.
I just see an opportunity and am trading it.
Take long or short arguments elsewhere because if I make some money here I’ll be gone and on to the next trade.
If I lose some money here I’ll be gone and onto the next trade.
If you’re still short GNUS you are being impossibly greedy.
This company just signed with Samsung for content distribution.
I don’t know much about GNUS and their management or even their content.
But I do know Samsung.
There’s not a snowballs chance in Hell That Samsung will align themselves with a company that is buried in lawsuits for possible fraud and investor scams.
I’ll tell you this much:
If some team at Samsung pulled the trigger on a scam stock being ran by frauds while being openly sued then that team at Samsung will lose their jobs.
I wonder if SFOR will totally crash once it breaches the $0.003X’s today?
Like...it hits $0.0039 and then just falls to the $0.002X’s.
That’d be fun to see.
This is EXACTLY what completely out of control dilution does to a penny stock that has never seen a profit after over 20 years of being a publicly traded company.
Mark Kay...
Mark2
PEIX tweets.
Mark Kay tweets...
They’re all from a penny stock CEO who’s been running a penny stock dilution scheme for 20 years.
Oh...
And FYI:
Him, Ram, George...
They’re all about to “cash out” as soon as their retirement package (publicly known as their Reg A offering) gets approved by the SEC.
They will walk away with their equal share of $2.5 million dollars worth of investors money.
Then they’ll just say “SafeVChat was full of forward looking statements that are protected by the SEC and like all of their other deals over 20 years, just didn’t work out as planned”
There’s nothing to wait for.
This is a scam stock.
CEO should be publicly flogged.
He’s not “RECOUPING” his money.
He has literally done a “dumb and dumber” IOU system of post-its and made up numbers.
He has made a lot of money selling and diluting your shares.
There is nothing to recoup.
Granting yourself voting rights and then granting yourself preferred shares just means he’s the first one who gets cashed out after debt holders with full preferred value of his preferred shares and common shareholders like you get left with nothing.
Grow up!
Learn how debt works.
Or quit trading pennies.
All longs with ONCI are screwed.
THIS IS HILARIOUS!
-26% and no bottom in sight.
Mark Kay his signed investors up for HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF NEW SHARES with this Reg-A.
Do the math:
Qualified investors can buy increments of $5000.00.
They’re going to sell $2.5 million.
Then you have the latest convertible notes which are insanely dilutive while only benefiting the purchasers because they’re getting SFOR with up to a 63% discount.
Meanwhile...some, here and elsewhere are literally CREATING OUT OF THIN AIR their own carrots to dangle in front of themselves.
Desperate eternal hope is a sign that deep down a trader knows all is lost, it just isn’t lost yet.
Tooooooo funny!
Raise your hand if you can claim you weren’t warned.
LOL @ SFOR going Sub-Penny today.
Elsewhere there are folks claiming to have found that SFOR is going to get their fair taste of a $2.9 million dollar contract with the Air Force and Army which is dated 2019.
They’re somehow thinking that contracts take years to pay out.
Ummmmmm No!
A 2019 contract is meaningless to SFOR which has since done yet another reverse split, has signed countless dilutive convertible toxic notes, has fallen from $0.15 to $0.01, and still has decrepit old Mark Kay at the helm.
Nothing to be afraid of here.
Mark Kay says SFOR is making history.
I mean heck... at least they’re making something since after 20 years of not making a profit.
Make history Mark. Forget about SFOR revenue because mailing history as a 20 year old penny stock scam is good enough
Lol @ Ryan losing money on his supposed buy of BGSF on August 20.
And hes said he was buying more which means he was already upside down when he claimed he was throwing more good money after already bad money.
Why is it that Lying Ryan always claims to have bought a stock that was moving up and he loses on each of them?
I hope all of you LTNC longs over the years know that he’s claiming trades and losing each time with money he mined from longs through his toxic financing.
Lolol...
Each of the prior Reverse Splits have several common denominators:
1.) All were done with management claiming that they’re trying to uplist to a major market or higher OTC tier.
Only once was SFOR able to achieve a higher tier in the OTC and they forfeited that higher tier on their way back to $0.0003 before the last R/S.
2.) All reverse splits saw dramatic and damaging share price reversals to the $0.00X’s or $0.000X’s.
3.) Each Reverse Split made the share price higher while equally reducing the O/S ONLY TO SEE the share price fall and the share count go from the 10’s of millions back towards BILLIONS as the company has never ever stopped issuing toxic, dilutive convertible notes, warrants, and shares that all were offered at insane discounts to the bearer.
Mark Kay has done more reverse splits than ANY penny stock I’ve ever followed/traded.
Are their penny stocks out there that have done more? I don’t know. Probably. I’m saying that I’ve never followed or traded one that’s done more than SFOR and achieved the same piss poor results as SFOR has.
Lol that you’re here troll.
What’s the matter?
Other board die out of you and your fellow mindless SFOR longs so you have to find something to do with your otherwise boring day?
Sfor is a scam.
Mark Kay is a liar and a fraud.
You and others both here and elsewhere tried to censor anyone who wasn’t a cult member like yourselves.
I will personally laugh at you and Z and UVS and others who got raped by Mark because you wouldn’t listen to reason.
Nope...
Puggy, UVS, Zpaul, Shalley...
They all lost a lot of money.
I agree that they and others weren’t buying every time they acted big dicked and said they were but they did have initial positions that they held all the way into the dirt and I couldn’t be happier knowing that NOW they have to lie to others and themselves on anonymous message boards to save their fractured egos.
He’s absolutely hilarious.
I can’t count the number of hateful pm’s I got from him.
The best part is that he lost everything while he kept disparaging anyone who had a bearish sentiment while he kept saying all along that he was buying.
The SFOR cronies crack me up.
Bulls turned bears turned guys trying to cover their tracks.
Whether or not the SEC ever knocks on their doors doesn’t matter to me. I’m happy knowing they lost collective fortunes amongst themselves and now lie and cherry pick that they sold and didn’t lose.
They’re forgetting the hundreds of message board “chest puffing” that they did.
SFOR is a scam stock ran by Mark Kay and he enlisted message board, self proclaimed, football trading card stock pros to spread misinformation because lying to a dummy with more time on their hands than brains is always cheaper than a press release.
Haaaaaaaa
No it won’t!
BANT can’t get anything right.
From drones that they never made to school safety.
Bunch of bandwagon hopping idiots and their investors are even worse.
Lol!
This POS scam ran by Mark Kay for over 20 years is going to slip to brand new 52 week lows today.
With all of the dilution he’s signed you longs and new bag holders up for this will see sub penny.
The guy couldn’t pour piss out of a boot if he had instructions any better than he’s ran SFOR and the share price into the dirt.
He could care less about investors whether they are bashing him or loyal advocates for years and years.
He only cares about keeping his SFOR piggy bank open.
What a scam!
Raise your hand if you’re down 99% on this POS. Can’t say you weren’t warned.
Haaaaaaaaaaaa
You’re going to regret that purchase
Given the fact that there’s only 5.5 million in volume you’ve basically bought about $100 in shares so at least that amount shouldn’t bankrupt you.
I have no idea why Penny has turned into a block head about this. He’s been burned to a crisp and lost so much because of Mark Kay and his misrepresentations you’re nowhere.
Perhaps he recently bought these “lows” to average down a massive loss and threw good money after bad here.
EVERYTHING that SFOR has done since the R/S has done NOTHING for the shareholder.
Anyone buying now clearly doesn’t understand how dilutive that Reg A is.
If fully funded, SFOR’s O/S will go right back to the billions just as it has in the past and SFOR’s share price will tank back into the $0.00x’s and then into the $0.000x’s.
A few years ago... perhaps 2016 if my memory is correct they had 87 million shares O/S.
That number, through constant dilution then R/S then dilution and R/S over and over again alongside constant Convertible note sales ballooned into the BILLIONS.
It’ll do the same thing.
A company doesn’t do the same thing over and over and over again for 20 years and suddenly change their modus operandi.
Penny...if you bought more, you clearly haven’t learned your lesson. Perhaps when this hits $0.009and lower you will see.
Keep in mind, the lower SFOR’s share price goes, the more dramatic the dilution will be to raise $2.5 million.
When they offered it, the share price, post Reverse Split was $0.12 per share.
It is now $0.0166.
This should create nightmares for longs and especially for ANYONE who was dumb enough to buy 1 or more shares of SFOR once the reg 1-a was filed with the SEC.
Sheeesh penny... maybe KOS was right and he did dump 10 milky shares on you.
Sorry bruh... sell what’s left or lose it all.
HAAAAAAAAAAA
15 million in debt...$50k in revenue last quarter and going to dilute the current share price for millions to fund their crap video conference app (and fund their retirement salaries)
Remember the Wizard of Oz when the witch was dead... ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch is dead tune...
Well here some new lyrics to that tune;
Ding dong the $0.01’s are here, the evil (but overpriced) $0.001’s are here.
SFOR will hit sub-penny and still be overvalued.
I just LOVE how some of the biggest die hard champions of SFOR began to thin their ranks after the R/S Kay swore wasn’t going to happen.
Now there’s peeps over there and here who’ve lost so much and they are raking Mark over the coals while Mark makes claims that he never said this or never said that.
All of Marks lies have cost untold number of investors small and large personal fortunes.
Wow!
What a punch to the gut by old man Kay for you SFOR believers.
Mark, George, and Ram CRAM a reverse split down your throats...A reverse split Mark told countless investors would not happen and then files for a round of offerings?
Stock went from $0.15 to $0.04 which is a pre split equivalent of less than $0.0001.
Still the believers elsewhere hold out for hope in one hand and crap in the other.
If Mark Kay were a cult leader and told everyone that they need to eat cyanide to get on the magic asteroid I’m pretty sure he’d run out of cyanide.
When SFOR hits $0.00X’s I wonder who will claim to be buying this goldmine that has already collapsed 5 times in 20 years and killed countless investors.
Lol...
I can’t even imagine holding a dog like SFOR for 14 years and just watching, let’s say $1000.00 turn into pennies.
I mean I guess if you watch $1000.00 or more or less turn into a value where it’ll cost you more to sell it than it’s worth I guess why not just hold it?
But in three years SFOR has done 5 reverse splits and each of them had the same promise: to entice new investors.
Each reverse split did that. Now we have a football card trader turned stock pro and an Alaskan dog sledder trying to convince people on FB to join some membership to make money.
Reminds me of the TPAC scam.
lol...
You invested in a company that for 20 years has never made a single penny in revenue.
You invested in a company where 5 minutes of due diligence would have shown you it’s a scam.
You invested in a company where iHub, and other social media platforms told you it’s a scam.
Now you want your money back?
That’s hilarious!
Let me get this perfectly clear:
1.) If a reverse split was a good thing the stock price would rise.
2.) If a reverse split was a good thing the stock price would rise, not fall after it.
3.) if these patents meant anything, the share price would rise, not fall.
4.) SFOR did a reverse split and went to $0.15 and it’s now at $0.11 which means that SFOR was at $0.0003 before the split and is now basically at $0.0002.
What part of any of this sounds like it’s good news for SFOR shareholders?
No
They’re worse