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Keep up the pressure people
I will buying PXD on the dip created from the settlement news, you are probably doing more to bring in PXD's stock price then I ever could. With any luck you will push it into the low 60's or even high 50's. I have my cash ready. PXD is a Mid cap energy co. with a ten billion dollar market cap, oh you can scratch the paint, but this action won't kill it. You may be responsible for creating the best energy play this year and I am now firmly behind your efforts.
I knew there was a safe play here somewhere.
Happy Trading
.25 what a surprise, reason is irrelevant. Y A W N, see you in AM
If PXD loses on the 11th, a settlement offer is just about certain, it is absolutly certain that it will be for less then MOSH Holdings is looking for, it will also contain a clause that PXD admits no wrongdoing. This will be a MOSH HOLDINGS intelligence test. Take the money, settle up with the unit holders and move on down the trail, OR fight it out in court for a POSSIBLY larger settlement AND all the appeals that WILL follow. (The latest appeal in the EXXON VALDEZ case just wrapped up a few months ago) If your too young to remember the Exxon Valdez case,look it up.
ROFLOL I never had the opportunity to use that, thank you!!!!!
For the amount of shares I can buy for the cash I have for investing in Pennies it is no longer worth it at this price for me. I would have to break my investment rules to spend more, and I just won't do that. It's my money so it just has to make sense to me .
Ron, there is no flaw in that logic!! Congrates!!! folks, after this last round in the courts, it really does look like the tables have turned. You will know with certainty on the 11th. But it now looks like I WAS WRONG and PXD will have to settle. Having less then 10K shares in this is not worth it, yet, I can't bring myself to spend more then .12 for this, so It looks like I have to play this from the PXD side. If MOSH HOLDINGS wins on the 11th. PXD WILL dip, and I will re-enter the stock. But I will wait for settlement news to really jump in. I still think MOSH as a trust is probably finished either way, but the unit holders should make out quite well. PXD just has to many new assets coming on line for me to ignore the growth possibilities after this is over. Looks like your going to give the giant a big fat black eye here, but I doubt he will die from it.
Sorry if anyone thought it was personal, it was just business all along.
Again, the battle plan has not survived contact with the enemy! I WAS WRONG and must adapt now or perish.
GTLA.
Would like to hang around and see how it turns out.
It'll be back to .25 and forgotten within 10 days MARK it. Congrats on the "dead cat bounce". Looks like all the .12 share holders have one more chance to unload at a fat profit before the final plunge.
Enjoy it while it lasts, we have all seen this spike and then the 33% haircut before. You are better off selling here and loading up with 30% more stock starting at .27 and down.
Looks like PXDs objection to use of Ziegler Report is SUSTAINED, that doesn't leave much evidence for the plaintiffs does it? Have a nice night. It ain't over till the fat lady sings, and the judge just locked her in the closet.
Sorry, Not a geologist. I went through most of my carer as an Electrician, then moved into Project Management for a manufacturer of both Environmental and Access control systems, them moved into Consulting with said company and others (seems I had a knack for spotting trouble before it happened). Became interested in Trading Energy and read up on the subject, began trading full time in 2005. I continue to keep up on oil and gas related issues.
I am originally from Upstate New York, but I moved to Texas for the lower taxes (lower property and NO state income tax , NY was taking 7% at the time) and higher wagers in the Dallas Area. NY is a nice place to live, but you can't really make a living there unless you like NYC.
I make mistakes just like everyone else, I got into a penny on HOPE once, it was called MOGI, bought the whole big strike line too. I think it cost me about 20K, NEVER AGAIN without all the facts.
And I like to think I have a fine but TWISTED sense of humor.
I actually like your posts, what little there are, lol.
See ya Monday or Teusday
Yes I agree everyone have great 4th. Even if you live in Canada. lol
have a nice day EOM
That has been my whole point, I can't supply it, It's not there!!!!!!! As far as I can tell MOSH has never claimed to have that much interest in Brazos 39-A, get it? Nowhere has MOSH ever said the own that much. NOWHERE. It's like MOSH HOLDING just made it up to fluff up the case or something.
Don't like em? Thats my financial adviser in the first pic to left, we are discussing MOSH.
They would be, Jamaca, The front yard, One of my TR7's at the 2006 Triumph Nationals, A consult job probably Denver, and The Grand Canyon with the wife.
The nice thing about living in Texas, is we depend on the concealed carry rules to keep the peace. I prefer the Colt peacemaker, my wife however likes the Walther 9mm, for it's light weight.
Thats Flawed reverse logic. If one is going to rob you of something you need to have had it in the first place. Therefore is %)% was knocked down by the illegal farm out, MOSH needed to have it in the first place, and MOSH doesn't seem to have ever reported they had that much interest in the first place. I would think they would know that sort of thing. The whole number comes from a source that is suing MOSH, not MOSH itself. And that makes numbers from MOSH HOLDING SUSPECT (They have an agenda for CASH)! Before the farmout and before PXD, everything was fine. Filings after PXD showed up did not show any evidence of these "Mystery assets" (that were never previously reported) disappearing.
I think the judge is really going to be interested in weather or not MOSH actually had 50% in the first place, if they never filed anything about it with the SEC, where did it come from other then the fuzzy math produced by MOSH HOLDINGS LP.
Well actually, knowing what I do about gas and oil plays and keeping up with the technology involved it makes perfect sense.
10K 12/3/95 3-4 years Assuming a fixed decline rate from information gathered from surrounding wells ( thats how it's done)
10K 12/3/97 2-3 years Looks like they are using the same decline information, and may have data from this well to add to it. Everything is on track in this picture.
10K 12/3/99 1-2 years No surprises here, the plotted decline rate continues. ( remember this is mathematical curve based on data from this and surrounding wells, it is by no means a direct measurement of remaining gas in the well, we just don't have the technology available to do that,NO ONE DOES).
10K 12/3/01 2-3 years It appears that the decline rate has stabilized and the ol well may still have some life, the decline rate has been replotted ( IF I MUST GO OUT and get a decline curve from a well SAY "I don't know how to find that kind of data" And I will find and post one.
10K 12/3/03 0 years What a surprise!!!! KATRINA HAS SHUT DOWN PRODUCTION!! LOL I guess someone forgot about the two Hurricanes. (I wonder what would have happened if production had continued those two years? No one will ever know.)
10K 12/3/05 2 years ( Well lets call it THE TWO MISSING YEARS DUE TO THE SHUT IN SHALL WE) The well has been "SHUT IN" (if you don't know that term look it up)for a couple of years now, Looks like the got a nice build in pressure (unexpected but not impossible) while it sat dormant.
10K 12/31/07 Either the well was reworked with newer technology, or the well output stabilized again and the decline curve has been replotted, no mystery there either.
here is some light reading to back that up.
plotting Decline:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Oil-Gas-3147/2008/3/royalties-10.htm
technology that changes well life:
http://www.scimisys.com/SMI%20ALS%20V6_5_files/page0010.htm
I can supply hundreds more examples, these are just the easy ones and proof they exist.
Well production is Guess work by a petroleum engineer, it is NOT an exact science, THE ONLY WAY ANY engineer can tell you when a well will quite is to WAIT FOR IT TO HAPPEN. I'm afraid if MOSH HOLDING LP is basing a case on these numbers they have a surprise coming,
Have a nice day.
The nice thing about living in Texas, is we depend on the concealed carry rules to keep the peace. I prefer the Colt peacemaker, my wife however likes the Walther 9mm, for it's light weight.
how many of those properties are producing now anyway?
You often have to reference past posts, documents, and ideas here. I suppose I could complain about the 1000+ posts that reference the same old moldy, made up documents that MOSH HOLDINGS LP has spewed out too. If we wanna push that idea to far, it will just lead to some bottomless pit, do we really want to go there? PXD seems to have been a favorite of discussion as part of this case way back to the first hundred posts here, I just added my opinions to discussions already in progress. Isn't the real point just flat out censorship of line of reasoning that just isn't popular and should be suppressed lest someone else agree with it?
The risk reward is better if I only shell out $1000.00 for my 10k shares, if there are even shares trading after this whole sale fiasco.
read that, it was derived by the plaintiffs, I am looking for a SEC filing by the trustee, something where the TRUST actually says they have 50%, I keep being lead to the same ol plantiff derived, worthless paper, it's not a trust document, or SEC filing, its just so much toilet paper unless they win a trial. Where does the TRUSTEE say MOSH has 50% in an SEC filing? If there is not such filing just admit it and lets get on with it.
.02 seems just as likely as $1 at this point. There is no real asset based PPS so it's just a big guessing game , pick a number any number, might be up , might be down. the small percentage who post will have little say in what actually happens, Oh they say they hold this large percent and try and get others to buy in, but just who are "they"??? Anonymous, thats who, why do they hide? whats the point of anonymity?
The last three days volume says it all, traders are staying away until a decision is announced concerning the sale of trust assets.
I guess they don't want to get burned on a stock that in all likelihood may not be trading at all soon.
If a sale is announced how long will this issue trade anyway? Will the record date be the announcement date? Or will the stock continue to trade until the trial? I wonder if PXd has "phantom buyers" out there, accumulating the stock, so if there is a settlement PXD can recover a large amount of it by paying themselves. If original unit holders can buy shares under the umbrella of MOSH HOLDINGS then I'm sure PXD can find a way as well...........
Well then, I can't believe it, but we are all in agreement then. No one has ever seen or has any knowledge of the document MOSH HOLDINGS LLP is basing their whole claim on. It is in fact, non existent. Not only that, but we also seem to agree, that it is OK if there is no evidence to support MOSH HOLDINGS Claim. Incredible!! I hope the judge doesn't think to ask for this proof. Good Luck
I get the reason, but where does everyone get that 50% number, where is it printed that MOSH interest is or was or should be 50%?????????????? If it should be 50% there should be something that points this out in the first place besides air.
My DD has lead me to the conclusion that so far, there is no proof there ever was more then a 2.25% stake for MOSH in Brazos 39-A. I was hoping there was more as is widely believed from reading all these boards, but after months of digging and questions,I was finally able to figure out what the whole KEY QUESTION should be. I received a lot of good leads from some posters here, but never the real answers, just sort of a "FUZZY" picture of what people think, but not why. It's the unaswered "why" part thats missing here. I am swiftly coming to the conclusion that the whole thing was just a big "LOTTO TICKET PUMP" with no real proof to be found out there. This appears to be based on a BIG GUESS by the 12 people that formed MOSH HOLDINGS LLP and a great multitude of people seem to have swallowed the whole thing hook line and sinker, with out even looking for the real facts behind the case. I know all the accusations by now, they have all been pointed out daily. I have heard about justice, and theft, and conspiracy! Oh MY!! I have heard about illegal farmouts and hidden numbers and desputed Ownership, OH DEAR! . But where is the one SEC filing or TRUST Document that establishes that claimed ownership percentage figure???? This is looking more and more like a lawsuit based on fiction. But I've dug so deep, I just HAVE to know how the story ends now.....lol...and I bet it's not a happy ending for "investors" in MOSH.
Thats what REAL DD is all about, following an issue for MONTHS maybe longer before you commit. It is about separating fact from fiction.
Not trying to scare anyone, just looking for the key to the whole law suit, the one "fact" that I keep hearing the whole thing is based on, MOSH percentage ownership on Brazos, 39-A. And in two days of posting it seems, no one can provide it! One would think a KEY fact like that would be easily available and known by all who invest in this, and yet........nothing.
PXD will be happy to answer the question of trust property sale. Directors@pioneernrc.com
have a nice day.
I see no one could post a SEC filing that proves MOSH has this larger interest in Brazos 39-A, other then the 2.25% reported here.
http://www.equitygroups.com/otcbb/mosh/messages/97099.html. Oh if one digs deep enough,(say 1994) one can find where MOSH had an "OPTION" for a larger percent stake, but it does not appear to have been exercised.
All I needed was the proof from any SEC 10Q-10K filing, and I would have bought right here.
I knew it was a scam all along, a lot of talk and no proof. Please don't bother to show me the lawsuit documents again, they are not proof ,just desperate accusations.
Mosh does not seem to be trading as of 2:38 EST. Is trading suspended or something, or is there just no interest in the stock?
The OPINION stated in Exhibit R is part of the current court record, that is correct. That the OPINION has been recorded is a FACT, that the OPINION is correct is currently supposition, and has not yet been proven.
I am well aware of exactly what the suit is about http://sec.edgar-online.com/2005/05/13/0001104659-05-023429/Section2.asp
But most of what I read on the board is just "sunshine pumping"(thanks to Cork for the term) not facts.
I think someone will have to pull the fork out of the Trust first,I hope it's not to late, looks like it has stopped breathin.
Please provide a link from a SEC 10K or Q filing to back that up , I would like to see the proof of that statement. If anyone can prove that with a DIRECT reference from a SEC SEC 10K or Q filing and not some mathematical mumbo jumbo, I will buy at current price if the sale fails to go through.
Y A W N.....here is the source. It tells us what IS, not what might be, my apologies if it is true.
http://www.equitygroups.com/otcbb/mosh/messages/97099.html
The trusts interest in Brazos 39-A is only 2.25% and Pioneers interest is only 2.5%. That is Hardly "blockbuster value" for MOSH, more like a "drop in the bucket"
Here is a quiz, If the termination begins, will MOSH voluntarily de-list to cut down on expenses as they wrap things up. Hmmmmmmm....
we will open @ .25 , this could be the day we see it drop below, wish this would get it over with already. The trustee should be signing the order to sell by now, I'm sure we will see a PR either way by Tuesday.
Happy Trading
hope MOSH is not your ONLY stock.
SCU my friends SCU , nuff said.
Arrrrgh? right top of POSTS not BOARD, no wonder i couldn't see it.
Ok...... I like to think I am not blind and somewhat computer savy. Where is the Mark this Board thingy on these pages so I can add to favorites!!!!!????
I am doing DD now, so far it looks ok, I have NO FIRM opinion yet. If I like it I will buy, if not I will simply go away. There is not much room to try and buy lower.
Happy Trading.