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[IH Geek [Meatloaf]]

Sorry, I was working on something and didn't notice.

[Susie924]

I will test it.

In five minutes I will edit this post and you can let me know if it goes back in your mailbox

edit: Did it work?

[IH Geek [Meatloaf]]

It should be working now. Somewhat hard to test though.

[Susie924]

Great idea!

[Susie924]

That would be a wonderful addition.

It would prevent people from posting one thing (usually to get a laugh at someone else's expense) and then editing it so that the mods don't see the original post.

[IH Geek [Meatloaf]]

Yeah, it's possible.

Maybe even probable.

[Tavycal]

Meat is it possible to make it so when I edit a post after the person I was repling to reads it that it would, after I edit go back to that posters mailbox?

[IH Geek [Meatloaf]]

More likely it's Bob.

[Susie924]

Is Matt tinkering again?

Very slow

[Susie924]

I realized what I did.

I sorted it my "oldest messages first" and it only gives me 50.

If I sort it by "newest messages first", it's ok.

Sorry for being stupid!

[Susie924]

I thought that also so I tried another search of PM's to and from Churak and since there are probably about 102,000 it should show me the next 50. The second 50 are exactly the same as the first 50

[IH Geek [Meatloaf]]

I just tried that and it worked correctly for me. Try it again using a different search term. I'm wondering if you happened to search for something that had exactly 50 items?

[Susie924]

In advanced search, if you put in the parameters to search for a PM from a specific time frame it will list all the ones for that time frame.

On the bottom there is a "get next 50" button to click on, but when you click on it, it takes you exactly to where you were and you no longer have the button to "get next 50".

[Susie924]

Can't read the boards.

Why am I posting this? If I can't read, you probably can't either!

[Susie924]

LOL

[Churak]

sure you do - Susie'924

[Susie924]

I guess I finally have a good reason for having gotten married.

I no longer have an apostrophe in my name!

[Churak]

I remember people having a problem with this in siggy's etc but I never realized what a problem this is...

Little apostrophe confounds Information Age


SEAN ODRISCOLL
The Associated Press

NEW YORK–It can stop you from voting, destroy your dental appointments, make it difficult to rent a car or book a flight, even interfere with your college exams.

More than 50 years into the Information Age, computers are still getting confused by the apostrophe. It's a problem familiar to O'Connors, D'Angelos, N'Dours and D'Artagnans across America.

When Niall O'Dowd tried to book a flight to Atlanta earlier this year, the computer system refused to recognize his name. The editor of the Irish Voice newspaper could book the flight only by giving up his national identity.

"I dropped the apostrophe and ran my name as `ODowd,'" he said.

It's not just the bad luck o' the Irish. French, Italian and African names with apostrophes can befuddle computer systems, too. So can Arab names with hyphens, and Dutch surnames with "van" and a space in them.

Michael Rais, director of software development at Permission Data, an online marketing company in New York, said the problem is sloppy programming.

"It's standard shortsightedness," he said. "Most programs set a rule for first name and last name. They don't think of foreign-sounding names.''

The trouble can happen in two ways, according to Rais.

One: Online forms typically have a filter that looks for unfamiliar terms that might be put in by mistake or as a joke. A bad computer system will not be able to handle an apostrophe, a hyphen or a gap in a last name and will block it immediately.

Two: Even if the computer system is sophisticated enough to welcome an O'Brien or Al-Kurd, the name must be stored in the database, where a hyphen or apostrophe is often mistaken for a piece of computer code, corrupting the system.

That's what happened during the Michigan caucus in 2004, when thousands of O'Connors, Al-Husseins, Van Kemps and others who went to the polls didn't have their votes counted.

"It was a real slapped-together computer system the party put together and a lot of people were left out who were registered to vote, it was a real pity," said Michigan political consultant Mark Grebner.

In this year's primaries, the system worked much better, according to the Michigan Democratic Party. There have been isolated reports of problems elsewhere, but nothing on the scale of Michigan.

Still, an apostrophe, hyphen or space can interfere with medical and dental records, gym memberships, online searches or school registration.

Dutch-American proofreader Jessica van Campen has seen her name listed as Jessica Vancampen, Jessica Van, Jessicavan Campen, Jessica Campen and Jessican Kampen by uncertain computer systems. When she went to her finals in college, she was listed under Campen and was told Jessica Van Campen had dropped out of the course.

"It was another moment of panic," she said.

All of this confusion has prompted some people to surrender to technology. Iraqi immigrant Lina Alathari was once known as Lina Al-Athari, but dropped the hyphen in America. "There is no pronunciation difference, so I'm fine with it," she said.

Erin Carney D'Angelo, a lawyer in New York, was born apostrophe-free, but took one on when she married her Italian-American husband. But "he told me to drop the apostrophe when filling out forms so to computers I'm just a `Dangelo,'" she said.

The problem is difficult to correct because computer systems have many different ways of recognizing names, Rais said.

"It depends on the form filters and it depends on the database program," he said. "Basically, there are a lot of programmers out there who forget that a growing portion of the American public are not called John Smith or Mary White.''

The Irish apostrophe began with the British, who put it there because they believed the O looked odd without a link to the rest of the name. Many Gaelic speakers in Ireland refuse to carry an apostrophe, considering it a vestige of colonial days.

"Maybe that's the solution," said O'Dowd, who just last week was rejected by an online alarm clock service. "Maybe we should just drop the apostrophe altogether, not just as a nationalist statement but because I'd like my alarm call to work in the morning.''

For my part, I've already thrown off my apostrophe. From now on I am Sean ODriscoll.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

Could you guys add a link to the Q&A board in the "About Us" section of the Home Page?

TIA,
Phil

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

EDITED.

I meant it to be a PM.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

Whatever.

My point was that you couldn't use the Swing board as an example of the way to post within the TOU as written.

Phil

[Susie924]

Guess?

How comforting

[Mod Squad 4]

The inconsistency of TOU enforcement across Ihub has always been a problem in my view, but neither I or you own it so we can't make the rules. As a MS I have to guess when and where I can enforce the TOU.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

Mentioning the Swing board and the TOU in the same sentence is a joke.

Go to the Swing board Ibox and search for the word "fuck".

IMO that word should not be allowed on any free board, but admin allows it there.

Phil

[extelecom]

I was being facetious... Absolutely useless for a normal IHUB user to know someones status IMO.... I see some improvements don't really seem to benefit avg. user. All IMO...

[extelecom]

"Out of control moderators really don't have a place on Ihub" -
Apparently they do as IHUB as pretty well deemed political boards off limits for mods/IH Admin.

[Churak]

you are the second person to tell me that in the last 10 minutes - I don't see that cause I have no one membermarked but, yeah, if you can't remember why you membermarked someone, I guess the type of their membership is kinda irrelevant...

[extelecom]

Well at least in your bookmarked people you get cute little pictures now of the bookmarked posters IHUB status.... This is useful for you isn't it?

[Susie924]

ridiculous

[Mod Squad 4]

Get real...so now you want to stop a TOU violation before it happens by profiling posters?

Yes, and I think you would agree that it could be a very useful tool. Profiling people has been done for centuries, it just always been called by the same name.

What used to be a fun place to hang and exchange thoughts about stocks is turning into a Big Brother Community.

If you're on the right board, and stay within the TOU, Big Brother doesn't exist. Example: The Swing board.

Fine...I think iHub should issue tin foil hats to all members so that our thought processes are beamed to the iHub server and 4 little munchkin MOD SQUADDERS review the printouts 24/7/365 (366) to make sure that no one "crosses the line"...or else...termination...in every sense of the word...sheesh

I like it! lol j/k

[Churak]

There are several examples throughout society of people who are by no fault of their own, trouble makers. These people have been sought by the police during riots, and by the military when at war. Remove the instigator and quell the riot. It is this type of poster that I'm suggesting be marked for all the Ms'rs and Admins to see.


Get real...so now you want to stop a TOU violation before it happens by profiling posters? What used to be a fun place to hang and exchange thoughts about stocks is turning into a Big Brother Community. Fine...I think iHub should issue tin foil hats to all members so that our thought processes are beamed to the iHub server and 4 little munchkin MOD SQUADDERS review the printouts 24/7/365 (366) to make sure that no one "crosses the line"...or else...termination...in every sense of the word...sheesh

[Mod Squad 4]

Out of control moderators really don't have a place on Ihub, and yes it does take a special mind set to be a good moderator. The Mod Squad was chosen by Matt from his years of experience with each one, he knows what each is likely to do in certain circumstance. He didn't extend the ability to remove posts to his friends just to cause trouble for others.
There are several examples throughout society of people who are by no fault of their own, trouble makers. These people have been sought by the police during riots, and by the military when at war. Remove the instigator and quell the riot. It is this type of poster that I'm suggesting be marked for all the Ms'rs and Admins to see.

[mAjOr dAmAgE]

My opinion is it shouldn't be too big brother in that regard. Ihub already has many levels of dealing with posts from mods, to mod squad, to admin, to report tou, to jail, to ban, to boot.

If you mark a poster and literally stalk him it might be over the top.

I only say that because, without going into it much, I had an issue where a poster's posts were repeatedly deleted even if there wasn't really a TOU, and it was just a matter of him being stalked with the reputation that everything he did violated TOU.

I simply don't think a "watch this guy's messages" flag is appropriate given the levels of monitoring that presently exist.

[Mod Squad 3]

Regarding reading the replies to posts, I have noticed that I must return to the original post to retrieve the board link.
Perhaps the link to the board we are reviewing could
stay on top of the screen while we are reading up a thread.
Thank you.

[Mod Squad 4]

Under the manage view of a board it's currently not possible to see deletions by clicking "Next". You must go back to the message list to see deletions. How difficult would it be to write the code to be able to go through all posts by using the "Next" button?

[IH Geek [Dave]]

I would favor sticking with the Q&A board for general inquiries. Not all MSers work from segregated accounts because having to flip back and forth between accounts is a hindrance to their participation.

We may provide MS access to a limited TOS Queue view, but the pros/cons of that are currently under discussion.

[Mod Squad 4]

Suggestion:

With flame wars, stalking, and other inappropriate behavior occurring between posters continually but not always the same people.

Would be possible to somehow mark the accounts of the troublesome posters so they are brought to the attention of Admin and MS'rs? Until they can continually post within the TOU.

[Mod Squad 2]

One option would be to give all of the Mod Squad separate aliases, like some of us have already have.

[IH Geek [Meatloaf]]

One problem that would need to be overcome - MS are anonymous even to each other. Although I haven't looked too closely at the implementation of the generic Admin queue, I had the impression that it required a fair degree of cooperation not to step on each others toes. To preserver anonymity, "locked by XXX" messages would have to be rethought.

[Bob Zumbrunnen]

I like it. Helps spread the workload and expedite responses.

Dave, John? Thoughts on the nuts and bolts of it?

[Mod Squad 4]

Suggestion:

Just as the site already has a generic IH Admin, why not also have a generic Mod Squad, where the post would automatically go to all MS's when a moderator needs or wants help?

[AMERICAN_PSYCHO]

Thank you.

[ergo sum]

IHUB had chat rooms early on but gave up on them. I don't remember why. Sorry to be so obtuse.

[AMERICAN_PSYCHO]

You're saying "IHUB" was once in high school? I'm sorry, but I don't understand. Would you or could you elaborate on what you're talking about?

Posted by: ergo sum
In reply to: AMERICAN_PSYCHO who wrote msg# 142 Date:1/17/2008 9:38:38 PM
Post #of 143

IHUB

[ergo sum]

IHUB

[AMERICAN_PSYCHO]

Who is "they"?

Posted by: ergo sum
In reply to: AMERICAN_PSYCHO who wrote msg# 140 Date: 1/17/2008 9:26:10 PM
Post #

They used to have them when they were still in highsschool.

[ergo sum]

They used to have them when they were still in high school.

[AMERICAN_PSYCHO]

Wouldn't IHUB benefit greatly from having a chat room and/or chat rooms?

[Susie924]

You already have that ability.

[extelecom]

Would also like the ability to block pm's without blockina public msgs... too