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so you would condem all who work for someone else?
nothing like a little humility huh ix?
mine too..the numbers are climbing
fascist...lmao
don't you mean clinton?
Another suspension for IxCimi:
He wrote:
"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Have a lard sandwich , FAT ASS!"
He just can't seem to grow up. This board seems to get tainted when he comes around. I hope the chef that prances in the flowers gets the chance to meet one of us "FAT ASS", patriotic, southern boys, one day.
Poor IxCimi, the moonbat can't comprehend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus
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The United States Constitution specifically included the English common law procedure in the Suspension Clause, located in Article One, Section 9. It states:
“ The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it. "
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LOL. Egg on your face. The constitution protects Habeas Corpus for whom? "We the people...."
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Have a lard sandwich , FAT ASS!
Unsubstantiated digression.
A sign of a weak, dull mind.
Yet, this "fool" makes more than you do and certainly knows how to enjoy it..
Hey, I like being in the limelight.
I can tell. "It's best to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." Think about it!
So, you believe the constitution applies to
terrorists. How can you separate Habeaus Corpus and the constitution in which it is found? I think you're getting dizzy with your spin.
My initial argument stands.
#msg-22306101
And, you've done a 180 in less than 5 minutes
#msg-22313018
It's quite apparent that you are either lost, dim, or nuts.
Hey, I like being in the limelight.
You do what ever it is you do....
Like, work for someone else.
Ummm sure. That's why I am a major player in my arena and you are a _______
If narcissism works for you, fine. You're a legend in your own mind. It's too bad that you fool no one. See how you completely digress from the whole discussion?
I won't talk about my accomplishments; I treat them as private. I do have common sense, unlike yourself.
Habeas corpus should apply to ANY human being... anywhere.
Ummm sure. That's why I am a major player in my arena and you are a _______ ?
IxCimi - Wrong again
#msg-22298616
Stick with making dishes, planting potatoes, and playing in the flowers. You're a few bricks shy when it comes to the real world. Either that, or you're a miserable failure at elementary comprehension.
Well, that's one man's poor opinion.
So much for that!
As usual, IxCimi falls flat on substantiation of his rants
He is left with a few insults and personal attacks that he believes frees him from meaningful debate.
It looks as though I am not the only one that has IxCimi pinned.
#msg-22298616
So, you do not believe habeaus corpus
applies to terrorists? Your answer determines whether my commentary and argument are nil. If yes, then my argument stands. If no, show example(s) where habeaus corpus was refused to Americans. If you believe habeaus corpus applies to terrorists, then you believe that terrorists have constitutional rights like citizens (aka "We the People")
After all, you're commentary on American policies are "nazi-like". So, explain yourself instead of making general, unspecific rants.
You apparently don't get the root of the matter, so, any attempts at elucidating your further is pretty much useless...
That's really too bad!
"When [modern man] is completely infantile ... he does not need and does not have an understanding of the outer world. It exists for him merely as gratification or denial."
Walter Lippmann (1889-1973)
In as much as your initial premise falls short, the rest of your commentary and argument is nil...
Government's purpose is to serve the interests of the people, to enable individuals to enjoy peacefully their rights to life, liberty, and property
So, why do you believe that the government's purpose is to guarantee rights to terrorists and suicide bombers and put their citizens at risk? We should try them in a civil court and give them lawyers and have a crime scene in a hostile land in which to investigate! What nation has ever engaged in this stupidity in a time of war?
IxCimi: The question is totally relevant
Does Habeus Corpus and the constitution apply to enemies of war? If so, why does the preamble say, "We the people of the United States..." Are you liberals trying to change it to: "We the suicide bombers of fascist islam...?"
Do you even know the result of your America bashing?
My Grandfather left Germany in 1936.
I know his story.
So, do you have the same story in America since you believe you're basically living in Nazi Germany? If so, prove it. I see you're still able to raise flowers, farm, and cook. Do the proceeds all go to Bush?
Like usual, all I am wanting is substantiation to your claim.
Government's purpose is to serve the interests of the people, to enable individuals to enjoy peacefully their rights to life, liberty, and property.
NOTHING MORE!!!!!!
Nope.
Why don't you get familiar with what he does say before you go mouthing off without a clue?
A Fascist is a Fascist by any OTHER name?
My Grandfather left Germany in 1936.
I know his story.
Comparing Nazi Germany with USA?
Are, you by chance, a loony activist that has been previously gassed by the US gov't?
I find in reality that terrorists are closely linked to the Nazi's mentality, and suicide bombs, beheadings, and perpetual intolerance is only little proof, isn't it?
Now give me specific examples of how you have been treated like a nazi.
IxCimi: Dealing with your nonspecific list..
Is a terrorist an automatic US citizen in Ron Paul's eyes?
Warhorse: Just like a good liberal
Exhonerating the enemy. Are you paid to do this, and if so, by whom?
Why is it against the law, a felony.,to post up photos of the dead.
how about we post up over 15000 photos of those abortions murdered by bush
More?
Have a ball.
http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm
"American Citizen Complicity in the Current Fascist Dictatorship
The 2004 election revealed that many American citizens are as intellectually and morally incompetent as the Germans in 1930. Such incompetence and ignorance always lead to tyranny. The United States is exactly at the same point in national degradation as the German nation in the 1930s when Hitler assumed absolute power and began his regime of mass murder and war crimes against the people of the world.
We've been conditioned to see Germany under Hitler as an unquestionably horrible example of dictatorial tyranny and inhuman barbarity--and to see our present American culture as completely opposite to that of Nazi Germany. And we like to think that if a tyranny such as that in Germany under the Nazi regime were present and growing in America we'd unquestionably be able to see it.
So it's a shock when we realize: most people living in Nazi Germany didn't see the tyranny! They thought it was the best time of their lives!"
http://www.hermes-press.com/germany1930.htm
Razor prefers to kill children AFTER they are born...
More fun!
http://www.irregulartimes.com/dead.html
26? I think if only ONE liberty is lost it's an injustice and a crime against the constitution. Bush should be hung for treason
Overview of Changes to Legal Rights
By The Associated Press
September 5, 2002, 11:44 AM EDT
Some of the fundamental changes to Americans' legal rights by the Bush administration and the USA Patriot Act following the terror attacks:
* FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigation.
* FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records requests.
* FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.
* RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.
* FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.
* RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.
* RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.
Razor, answer-did he or did he not tell that moron george jr to stay the fark out of Iraq? That being his own father.
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Date:8/22/2007 7:16:23 PM
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Raxor, POOF! Gone! can't handle the truth. LMAOROTF> Next neocon I'm ready
brain: Great points
Liberals can't deal in specifics and reality, nor can they substantiate much of their blather. If they could, you'd see some mature, enlightened debate on this board. Plainly, liberals are easily spoonfed and gullible. They don't want to be confused with facts.
It just reaffirms that liberalism, as we know it, is a serious mental disorder as Michael puts it so well.
because only a lib thinks that what razor is doing is hatred.
its part of the syndrome. applying labels, feeling that someone hates you as an ad hominem ( i cant spell) attack.
what razor wants is simple:
and end to his confusion with simple direct clear answers.
personally I have a similar set of questions, which have never been answered.
think of razor as Data in starfleet. give him some data. I tried to follow your posts and it was beyond my simple mided being
pretend you are presenting information at a meeting:
idea 1
idea 2
fact 1
fact 2
no warhouse, you make assumptions with what I beleive. a first important thing to do is to read first and make conclusions after thorough reading and understanding
Procreation is a beautiful thing in its proper context.
However, this is anything but beautiful:
Watch the video
http://www.abortionno.com
Here's how liberals treat life and procreation with respect. Watch the video and ask yourself if you can trust a morally bankrupt liberal to teach our kids 'respect'.
I can just see Obama telling the kids, "and if you have sex and get pregnant, just visit the friendly planned parenthood organization to get rid of that dung known as an unwanted baby."
Introducing our new visitor, Warhorse...
Let's get some insight into this person:
He's narcisstic about his Indian heritage and he believes himself to be elite due to "indian blood". (aka, racist)
#msg-22239859
While protecting his "fabulous" race and heritage, he seeks to denigrate others. How to you speill (sic) no one, again?
#msg-22240977
He perpetually plays the victim card.
#msg-22241652
So, Warhorse, how many whites living today murdered "your" women and children? Can whites still blame you for "scalping" our men, women, and children? Cleaving to the victim card and race card sure can keep that chip on your shoulder, can't it? You truly are only a victim to yourself.
Warhorse: The question was for specific
rights you have lost. What can you not do that you could do prior to 2001. Name them one by one, not give some copy and paste memo. This requires individual thought, not some dream-flavored liberal kool-aid.
As always, the liberals can't deal in specifics.
Commie? LMAO. I'm not the one condoning a nanny state to teach my children about sex when they're 4 years old! The liberal commies want to take away rights of parents.
War House: Damned liberal pervert
Ever think that if we teach children what sex truly is that when uncle razor touches them and asks them to perform acts on him they will know to tell their parents?
You've truly been victimized your whole life by whitey. Can I give you a cookie to make you feel better, chief? We know where your mind dwells, degenerate.
Yes I do, a daughter. Obviously you have an opinion that sex and reproduction is a dirty thing. WHen if as you believe is true per your god. It it the one gift that should be cherished.
Education done correctly will teach children that procration is a beautiful thing and not a a filthy subject. And as anything else in life should be treated with respect.
Of course it depends what and how it is taught.
nope. What I think of is a way to destroy society, not improve it
do you have children?
Razor. Whats the difference between your hatred for libs and hitlers hatred for the jews? I'm sure you'd love to see every last lib burned to death.
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