Pocketop Corp. (fka PKTO)

[tadhg]

If there was fraud here, it's not enough to freeze the stock, we need to put some people in jail

[stupie680]

i will

[pascal30]

yes, just nothing relevant which can be said about this stock since over 9 months..

[stupie680]

anyone here

[stupie680]

someone needs to spark this up again...

[stupie680]

This turned into another shell I see.

[PatD100]

trading today?

[casey v]

astute reading...

good job.

but, let's see what happens several months from now. never a dull moment in the wild west of pink land.

just my opinion, but, the amusing little trades occurring now and then here (and in places like acmg...) should not be indicative of anything.

[Aware]

http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Enforcement/Proceedings/ENR/enr_20080110_defreitas.jsp

Read the 'reasons and decisions' document link on the above page.

It seems to make it clear that the suspected fraud is the purchse of dormant companies that are then pushed as 'live' with false claims so that shares can be sold by the bucket load.

Given also that the original Pocketop web site indicates that Pocketop must have gone out of business about 4 years ago, *and* that the current web site is a clear fake - it was put up last May as a 'front' - then I'd say that Pocketop is not a trading company, and it has no employees.

But that's just my opinion from the facts I can dig up and from reading between the lines. Maybe someone has evidence to prove me wrong.

[tadhg]

Does anyone know what they are doing with the company? Are people still employed?

[casey v]

helping out with the bullish sign...

although there is no rush, as, likely, it will be several months away at the earliest. but, at least there is no strange action on this right now.

(belated happy new year to all!)

[tadhg]

Happy New Year.
No volume and no news. Do we have to wait for the next court date for something to happen?

[pascal30]

first post of the year ! weee :)

happy new year to all
i hope we will see at least a dozen posts before the year is up, that would be a bullish sign ;)

[PatD100]

see post 4179

[Aware]

Looks like the same keyboard that was discontinued at least 3 years ago. What did the email say? Are they telling you they are selling this again?

[PatD100]

LOL, yes thanks! can't say I didn't !

[sidedraft]

Is this the picture?

[PatD100]

Recv'd an email today re: CYHA CYBERRHAND being ready to rocket and it included photos of keyboards etc along with a POCKETOP logo, see image.

[Aware]

So this will never end. Just keep postponing by 'somehow' being unavailable on that date?

[pascal30]

pfff, from order...
again 6 months extended and again nobody from PKTO showed up at the hearing (no surprises there)

pursuant to subsection 127 (8) of the Act, the Temporary Orders, as modified, are extended against all of the respondents except Pharm Control until June 24, 2008 or until further order of the Commission, provided that any party may, on 14 days notice, seek to vary the order pursuant to section 144 of the Act;

[bkstx]

HA...I was thinking the same thing....eom

[pascal30]

nice chart of cyberhand

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CYHA.PK

almost straight line down, i guess they are headed to rock bottom just like PKTO..

this Micheal Burke is quite the jerk !

[pascal30]

weird that they didnt post an update there yet

past times the judgement was there within same day of hearings

[Drugdoctor]

Thanks for the link... nothing yet and I don't expect anything.

[pascal30]

yes its today, 29th on 2.30pm

verdict should show up here later today i guess

http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Enforcement/Proceedings/AlphaListing/ep_p_index.jsp#pocketop

but i don't expect anything from this..
probably temporary order and again postponed until 2008 ?

[Drugdoctor]

Canadian hearing tomorrow? Any link?

[zatafour]

what ever you say.


zata

[Aware]

ROLFLMAO - obviously not. Why would we lie?

[zatafour]

yes it does, I'm not going to go around and aroud on this. If I can do it anyone can.


zata

[Aware]

Exactly! :-/

[PatD100]

No price and NO item goes into my cart to pay for.

[zatafour]

I don't want to buy any keyboard, i'm just saying that if wanted to buy one, you can now do so...



zata

[Aware]

Nothing I do adds anything to the cart.

Why are you so keen to buy a keyboard that was discontinued 3 years ago?

[bkstx]

I was able to get to check out with it in my cart.....dont forget to add the shipping of the drop down below.......99.95 with 10.00 shipping.

[Aware]

I click on PayPal Checout button, a new window pops up with an emty cart. No items in it. Nothing to buy, zero balance. nothing to pay.

Click on the Visa checkout, result is similar, an empty shopping cart. Nothing to buy, zero balance. nothing to pay.

Check that link I posted again. I took time to carefully research this. That 'new' keyboard is not available for sale and has not been for years.

For extra delight, try opening a tech support ticket from the same site. See just where it actually takes you.

Finally, this is the 'current' web site http://www.pocketopcorp.com/, which is a worthless placeholder that has been there since about May. Looks cute doesn't it? Try the support link and see what you get to when you explore.

[zatafour]

copy and paste this and then click on add to cart via paypal and c what you think

http://www.irextender.com/i5.htm


zata

[zatafour]

I just went to pocketop.net and added the ct4700 to my paypal cart and it was willing to pay the 89.95 thru paypal. so without me hitting the "pay now" key, this works

zata

[Aware]

Doesn't let me. Never gets to a page where payment is possible.

[zatafour]

Yes you can. It will allow you to pay via paypal. give it a try


zata

[Aware]

Really?

Let me know if you can actually get to a page were you can actually *pay* for the keyboard.

That keyboard has not been on sale for about 3 years. Do yourself a favour and read this:-

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21488035

[zatafour]

You can buy the ct-4700 keyboard at there website.


zata

[Aware]

I think this is all bull droppings.

Pocketop keyboard has not been on sale for around 4 years (see my previous posts here). I htink the charger is going to turn out to be just as much vaporware.

Which means I have little confidence in CYHA ...

All in my humble opinion.

[pascal30]

mark the difference..
seems now its not "state-of-the-art" anymore :)

I can't believe as investors we were not even informed of anything in all this period, and it just continues like this..

from past PKTO's PR
===================

"The new state-of-the-art keyboard is half the volume and weight of competing products and has traditional keyboard touch-type functionality with an expanded line of user features. "

from current CYHA PR's
=======================

"The keyboard is half the volume and weight of competing products and has traditional keyboard touch-type functionality"

[pascal30]

hmm im a bit late here with it

but did anyone read CYHA's latest PR.. ?

they explicitly mention the Pocketop chargers..the thing that was Pr'ed with us a few months back..

whats up with this ?? is this possible ? did they just move stuff from PKTO back into CYHA ? I thought they had earlier split this off ? Cyberhand gets quite decent volume lately when compared to PKTO :)

it says among other things

the Company also operates Pocketops International, the developer of the world's first wireless portable PDA keyboard. The keyboard is half the volume and weight of competing products and has traditional keyboard touch-type functionality

today announced it has completed the final designs for the first release of Pocketop's Pocket Power series of cell and PDA chargers. The feature set of the mobile technology chargers was increased dramatically over the initial concept started some time ago. The new unit will be fully rechargeable, have a built in power control station, real time power monitoring, twice the battery life and have state of the art look and feel. There simply will not be a competitor in this market niche with the ability and quality of design that this product has. The upgrade of our engineering and design hardware and software has given us unique capabilities that will allow our clients to bring their products to market faster, with less redesign and a unique show as you go capability.

[pascal30]

and it closed back at 0,26
so what is your point ?

the only "good" thing is that in the PR they released yesterday, at least Mr Burke went on record saying something, so we know at least he is still alive.

[pascal30]

yup, like i said last time

November 29, 2007 at 2:30

[tadhg]

No trades today. Is this still on hold with the courts in canada

[fmsax]

Cyberhand volume?? 100k + shares traded today out of around 220k total.. doesn't make sense, half the company traded hands today. I noticed that Cyberhand updated the Cylogic Aerospace website recently also (www.cylogicaerospace.com). Once again they are sure making some bold claims in regard to products that are being developed, yet nothing quite "nearing completion" as of yet.

[fmsax]

CT4700 is new- I have checked the pocketop.net website on a regular basis for nearly two years now, and have never been able to order anything other than the old "original" keyboard so this is a promising sign indeed.
Pocketop's parent company, Cyberhand, was trading at .10 per share a month ago- which was extremely frustrating to me as I invested 10,000.00 in the company a few years ago (before the reverse split). Today CYHA hit 1.40 per share up from about .25 or so yesterday- although it has now retreated to about .60. Still, it is a promising sign... hope they get something rolling soon.

[pascal30]

hmm so if you buy it for $20 or so
say with 200 million shares outstanding or so

we will have an eps of 0,0000001

now with a conservative p/E of 15
we would get a fair value of 0,0000015

we are getting there :)