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That's unfortunate. On the other hand? I've used credit cards on the internet for the last 30 years and have NEVER had ANYTHING go wrong with the theft of one. Except ONE time (on a corporate American Express) where someone stole it and used it to purchase THOUSANDS of dollars of stuff.
Yes, as far as I can tell, the trial is still on for tomorrow.
i havnt used my credit card on the internet since i had a major issue with identity theft. as far as the rest of those documents are concerned. are we still going to trial tomorrow ?
Why don't one of you guys open up a pacer account?? It costs ZERO MONEY to do so. They give you $30 worth of downloaded files FREE every quarter. Each page of downloaded files costs TEN CENTS. If a document has more than 30 pages, they charge you $3.00 for it, but you get the rest of the document at no extra charge. Yes, if you exceed the $30 per quarter, they charge your credit card you put on file. Otherwise, they don't charge ANYTHING.
I've been on it for a year now, have downloaded hundreds of pages, and have not had a penny charged.
It would help if several of us had pacer accounts. When the files start flying fast and furious, some of us could download files and put them on the board, when the others came up against the $30 limit per quarter.
Case 8:20-cv-00993-MCS-ADS Document 532 Filed 05/13/24
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923.532.0.pdf
Oh don't tell this is going to be delayed
Netlist Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. (8:20-cv-00993)
District Court, C.D. California
oh shit........whats in it now ??????????
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17206527/netlist-inc-v-samsung-electronics-co-ltd/?order_by=desc
I'm holding my breath lol I'm going to add another 500 today but decided to wait until 3:55 lol
which rhymes with procrastinate !!!
They may decide to mediate some more. lol
tomorrow Boc trial samsung right?
everything there going to attempt will be as under handed as possible. in fact i wont be surprised of anything that goes awry as we move forward through this week. alls i want is a trial to commence tomorrow with a decision by friday. just hope for the best! the rest is out of our hands.......
The fact that he IS still an attorney and is still listed as an attorney for Samsung in the #0093 BOC case means that he can either stay in the background or he can still be an active attorney in the case.
I just think it SUCKS that Samsung got a last-minute full month's continuance (and then some), by telling the court that Yoder couldn't possibly continue due to his illness. Yet he is apparently still listed as an attorney in the case. I'll bet he is pulling the strings of anyone that will take the lead spot too.
It was all just another ploy by Samsung to keep delaying this case.
jet, i'm not even remotely thinking you would lie to me. yes i found the tab and he is listed. i will admit i dont know the capacity in which yoder is, or isn't now legally representing samscum. his name on that document is either there by error, because its a format letter for this case, or he is still in the background. for right now i'm not worried about it. in fact i really wish the bumbling idiot would be in front of scarsi. wouldn't you !!!! lol !!! imagine scarsi asking him, which of your statements should we use today ?
The bolded type in my post lists Yoder as an "attorney to be noticed", and still on the list of attorneys. It comes directly from the list of attorneys for the #0093 BOC case.
Go to the website of the Pacer #0993 case. I think I have seen you post up the docket list before, right? If you are able to open up that page, you should be able to open the "Parties and attorneys" tab at the top of the docket list, even if you do not have a pacer account to download docket Items.
But seriously, I have no reason to lie about this. Why would I??
do you have a link to the opened file ? i dont have pacer.
Look in the list of attorneys for both parties, under the "Parties and Attorneys" tab at the top of the docket list. I believe Yoder is STILL listed as an attorney in the case. His name has no "termination" listed, as others in the list do.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17206527/netlist-inc-v-samsung-electronics-co-ltd/
Michael G. Yoder
(949) 760-9600
Fax: (949) 823-6994
O'Melveny & Myers, LLP
610 Newport Center Drive
Suite 1700
Newport Beach, CA 92660
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
i dont see yoders name listed in the link in the post your responding to ? is he in the back ground for consulting, i wouldnt doubt it. as far as any other documents that are older i would imagine his name would still be there.
I see that Yoder is STILL listed as an attorney of record in the CA BOC case.....
Tomorrow the case starts. I wonder if it will finish up by Friday?
robcobb
5:56 AM
$NLST Here’s the lawyer lineup for tomorrow.Looks like after losing Yoder Samsung is still sticking with what is left of the O’Melveny team! I read all their profiles and I can’t figure out who will be the lead lawyer for Samsung . I guess we will find out soon.
https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_572577417.png
Stokd NLST I wholeheartedly expect—rarely if ever I provide predictions or pretty sure of something—Gilstrap will deny Samsung motion to stay & vacate 463 judgment till CAFC appeal on all patents in the case are concluded. If you read it—thanks again to whoever made it public which makes it easier to address/discuss—you will understand why.
I wasn't going to address or post about this sur-reply, given the substance was already contained in the motion itself and Netlist's first response in opposition. And with the BOC trial within days, wanted to stay focused on the immediate. And at this point, the back and forth rearguing of a motion is just noise to me... all I'm interested in is Gilstrap's decision.
Last night there was also some docs filed in BOC case—more noise by Samsung—their objections to Netlist's recent motions for subpoena power and accurate Korean translations. And another proposed jury verdict form with parties competing versions. It'll play out with trial in days.
Stokd NLST Someone last night posted that Samsung is pathetic, with a description of a doc of Netlist's opposition to Samsung's renewed stay motion. Implying Samsung is trying to stay BOC case.
Given we have a BOC trial with Samsung on Tuesday, with folks on edge enough considering the games infringers play to delay trials... it's a bit misleading to not specify and make clear—given they can see the case it's in—that it's to stay/vacate Samsung463 case which is post trial. Samsung filed that motion Apr10—been shared/discussed/on my chart—Netlist already responded, Samsung replied, Netlist last night filed Sur Reply—the last brief on the motion and now awaiting Gilstrap's decision.
Let's be aware of everything at play and post responsibly by indicating which case a doc belongs to, without comments that can inaccurately imply something.
My Pacer ext to make docs public still not working since update, but someone else made it public—link below for anyone interested.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txed.211544/gov.uscourts.txed.211544.600.0.pdf
whole witness list...... https://stocktwits.com/Durango24k/message/572494968
993 vs scamsung, 10 entries today..................
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17206527/netlist-inc-v-samsung-electronics-co-ltd/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc
NLST Part 2, Netlist Witness List in comments.. https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_572495310.jpg
https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_572495472.jpg
Yes gdog. My breakeven is .86. I was waiting for it to go above that so I could put in a stop limit. Didn't make it. However, it does give me hope for next week.
That UVIX is something else!!!
Now, as far as NLST goes, my dream is that NLST does get some type of win from court this month and that the pps shoots up, pass my breakeven, like it did for Samsung last year. I only need 4.04. Hopefully I will not let greed take over and I will put a stop limit on above $4 so I can get out if it falls back down again. However, I do like your dream of $40.
GLTA
U most be getting close to break even on ALLR? hod .8490
Short interest in NLST fell over 5% (5.6%) in the last short Interest report.
Down 503,499 shares to 8,485119 shares short. Last report had shorts at 8,988,618 shares.
And you could be right, again maybe wishful thinking on my part.
Maybe, but it's not just the battle with the infringers, it's the PTAB battle too. And that's why I think even Micron who seems to be more behind the 8 ball won't settle either. All the infringers are hoping that most patents will be invalidated and stay that way even after appeal, and then they're off scot-free for the most part. The gap of hopes and expectations between both sides is too wide for a compromise that either side would agree to at this point. I'm really surprised Gilstrap called for the mediation again. Can't imagine much will become of it, but it'd be great if it did.
SONNY and CHER it has to be good ,
my favorite NLST song................
I have a little different view with Micron, they have no chance for a win I think there could be a settlement.
Maybe just wishful thinking but out of the three I think the best chance would be Micron.
That is the most important question! When will NLST see $ from these trials. And I believe the answer is, win or lose NLST doesn't see money for a while. Even if they win everything moving forward, whatever they win will be appealed. That's has to be a 100% guarantee. The infringers do everything imaginable to delay the trials and their results. Of course they'll use the biggest delay tactic they have... the appeal. I believe that's why we sit at a pathetic price. There is no possible near term win. And settlements are almost 100% unlikely as well. Infringers want these patents for pennies on the dollar while Chuck wants the full value he believes they have. That's my take. Been here a while, down a lot, and will just sit and wait it out. Just hope they have funds to keep paying their legal fees and keep improving their tech. Another offering would be painful. But I'll consider buying under $1 should it happen. All this is IMHO.
If we win there will be an appeal just like samsung is doing. I believe we will win but I hope they come together and work out a deal before the trial, if that happens it would be huge and Samsung will lose their appeal and Maybe with alittle luck then GOOG would settle. idf all that happens I see a $40. price tag..
Or maybe I'm just dreaming on the $40. lol
WEEEEE we may ban Tic Toc (which I believe is a good thing) anything else you can think of that they agreed upon in the last three yrs?
Can someone explain, in common man terms, what the outcome will be in this trail at end of May?
What happens if NLST wins? Do we get some money or is it just the beginning of another long waiting period?
What happens if NLST losses? Kiss our dreams good-bye!
Is this a "Sell in May and go away" type of event?
This seems to be the way it is going.
There's far more important things that dealing with a nefarious and crooked PTAB. For example both political parties came together to ban Tik Tok.
I agree I'm old enough to remember when no matter which party won they worked together, now each party has instilled so much hate for the other that nothing gets done. I've mentioned it before and I really believe that answer lies with each one of us.
Stop being critical with each other try to hard to get along.
Maybe my faith in God is showing thru here ( I hope so).
Sounds a lot like what needs to happen with our political system also? Which one comes first?
NLST Good Friday morning Netlisters.
Let the truth be told.
For the newbies that don't know how far back this connection goes with the real parties of interest.
It's pretty much ground zero and a picture is worth a thousand words, someone send Kathy a copy it might open her blind eyes.
https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_572411151.jpg
TOMKiLA
7:44 AM
$NLST I assure you that HBM is 100% netlist's greatest opportunity to become a successful company. Limited access to this business, total control between sk (our partner) and samsung (our enemy). I would say that Samsung's damage is growing exponentially and an opportunity like this will never happen again. Everyone will have to work 200% to make NLST's HBM patents valid, only in this way can we say we have gold in our hands. not even the 912 is that powerful for increased value.
if the 912 is found on all 12 million servers sold every year, hbm as you can see from the photo, has an exponential increase in use and can be used in more fields.
Previously, SK Hynix forecasted that by 2030, its HBM shipments would reach 100 million units annually
Netlist made 16$ for every HBM unit in the Samsung case. Both Samsung and sk are doubles their HBM shipment every single year! Numbers speaks for us, in less than 2 year HBM will be more important than 912 (my opinion)
https://stocktwits.com/TOMKiLA/message/572404343
robcobb
7:39 AM
$NLST We are focused on the BOC trial at this moment, there are many different scenarios that could play out ,most in Nlst favor.Any outcome other than Samsung prevailing will result in Judge Gilstrap finally setting the Samsung royalty rate (mentioned in a recent filing) for the 463 case!This is a pivotal point in my eyes! Don’t forget mediation is going on in the Micron case and if it fails I expect Judge Gilstrap to do something unexpected,as many have observed in the past how he operates!Judge Gilstrap seemed like he wanted this case and cases settled through mediation. I think he will come up with a way to help the cases along if that doesn’t happen !(IMO)Whatever the scenarios that play out,we don’t have to wait very long now to see the results! Good luck to true longs! I am on go if needed in Marshall!
NLST Interesting thread from Patent Examiner Reddit—into their thinking. https://www.reddit.com/r/patentexaminer/comments/1cockdb/several_questions/?sort=new
Q
"Does the Patent Office have a mechanism for notifying examiners when patents they’ve allowed/issued were later invalidated by a court or the PTAB?
Are examiners that allowed/issued patents that were later invalidated given any additional training? Is it addressed with the examiner at all?
Does the Patent Office maintain statistics on how many patents allowed/issued by a particular examiner had one or more claims later invalidated?"
A
"You realize you are assuming that the PTAB and district court judges (and jury) decide invalidity "correctly." The district courts and PTAB get reversed by the Fed Cir regularly. You also assume the patent owner puts up a decent fight against validity every time. The patent owner might not care about a patent (if he has others) getting invalidated or is just unwilling to throw money/lawyers to defend it or to appeal a bad invalidity decision to Fed Cir
NLST When you think you've seen/learned everything regarding the nefariousness of USPTO/PTAB... this article emerges today.
"For those familiar with Reddit and the breadth of topics covered it probably comes as no real surprise that there is a patent examiner Reddit, which has some 4,800 users. What should be surprising—shocking even—is what was recently discussed in one quickly deleted thread within that patent examiner Reddit."
"It is astonishing that a patent examiner would take to a public forum, disclose information relating to the application on which they are working, and confess to not wanting to issue a patent based on personal political beliefs."
"As stunningly inappropriate as this post was, the replies by other self-identified patent examiners are even more troubling and indicative of deep problems at the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO)."
"What kind of culture is growing behind the scenes at the USPTO?"
There's plenty more, worth a read!
https://ipwatchdog.com/2024/05/09/uspto-needs-investigate-disturbing-patent-examiner-reddit-thread/id=176380/
i wholeheartedly agree, but your talking common sense. they dont................
IMHO our judicial system needs to be overhauled there needs to be time limits put in place to settle these cases much sooner than what is in place now.
makes it quite of obvious why they use every attempt humanly possible to stay out of court or going crying to ptab!
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