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NLST Gilstrap all the way!!!
The core argument is that Chevron deference violates the Constitutional principles of Separation of Powers and Due Process by allowing executive branch agencies to pass presumptively controlling rules, regulations, and policy-level guidance, thereby usurping legislative authority and improperly shifting judicial interpretive authority to the executive branch.
“Such a stay might under the facts wrongly signal that the function of the judicial branch is somehow subservient to the executive branch”
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$NLST Look at Pitman's hypocrisy & contradiction: Recent article—"Texas Startup Must Litigate Apple in California because of Convenience to the Tech Giant"—about a case where the plaintiff is headquartered in Austin and defendant has "major presence" there also.
"Haptic is headquartered in Austin at the home of its longtime CEO and listed inventor Jake Boshernitzan. The company was part of Techstars Austin Accelerator as it developed its product"
"Apple also has a major presence in Austin, with about 10,000 Austin employees and a billion-dollar second headquarters campus in the city."
"NEVERTHELESS, Judge Pitman GRANTED Apple’s motion to transfer the case to the Northern District of California, finding that the CONVENIENCE factors strongly favored transfer."
Suddenly convenience is a factor to transfer for Pitman, regardless Austin is the appropriate venue...Apple asked. Judges are given discretion by appeal courts, as long as they can justify their decision.
https://patentlyo.com/patent/2024/06/litigate-california-convenience.html
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$NLST As an example of the problem with Chevron at the USPTO, the brief points generally to the Office’s habit of updating manuals and web pages without notice, keeping up with “Standard Operating Procedure” changes, etc. It also charges that “the USPTO enforces unpublished secret rules for years. When the USPTO gets around to publication, it attaches retroactive effect, sometimes a year or more. Rules spring out of nowhere like boogie men.”
https://ipwatchdog.com/2023/07/27/inventor-user-organizations-tell-scotus-confine-chevron-uspto-cant-escape-rulemaking-process/id=164344/
https://stocktwits.com/SilviaJ/message/578037531
Stokd
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$NLST No better timing for the new Supreme Court ruling on deference — "The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday overturned a decades-old precedent that instructed judges about when they could defer to federal agencies' interpretations of law in rulemaking, depriving courts of a commonly-used analytic tool and leaving lots of questions about what comes next." — as our appeals of PTAB decisions on patent validity, and Director Vidal decisions on procedure and questions of law, are taken up by the CAFC.
And now possibly opens the door to very good standing to appeal to SCOTUS if the CAFC sides with PTAB or Vidal on certain matters/issues. By the time we're at that stage, much of the grey area and uncertainty of how judicial branches go forward and apply the new precedent/law, will be figured out.
This really opens the door to many challenges that plaintiffs can take up regarding any deference to the administrative branch and administrative law judges.
Timing may be aligning in Netlist's favor.
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i fully understand and i can also see both sides of the coin. from an individual stand point i will always go with what i believe the out come will be. am i always right, no. if i happen to see the opposite of the way i chose coming into fruition, i will be the first one to admit i'm wrong. despite the share price and the manipulation holding us back. i see that turning around once we get the green light from the higher court, and most importantly paid the vast amount of money the jury has decided we deserve. lets face it, the monopolies that are in control of this market dont want us in the game and they are, and will continue to suppress our position until they are compelled to pay.
so in conclusion as in a recent conversation, we once again are seeing things the same way for now.
NLST short interest slightly decreased in the latest OTC short Interest Report.
As of 06/14/2024, Short interest in NLST decreased 3.23 percent (-319,259 shares). Short shares now total 9,558,506. Last report short shares totaled 9,877,765 shares.
Hey I don’t believe the things I wrote. I’m just presenting the other side. There are 2 sides to everything. We believe we have truth on our side. None of us are 100% certain. And sadly, even if we are right, because of corruption, Netlist could still lose. Based upon the share price, Mrs. Market believes the other side, at least for now and probably for a little while yet. But we NLST investors wait for justice and the payday we expect to occur.
OH I'm still buying I was just having a little fun at Papas expense.
not to badmouth papa in the least, but if i started to believe it. i would sell this in a heart beat and never look back. if i had more money to play with i'd be buying more of this every chance i could at these prices. i didnt expect this to take this much time once i took a position, but as with most things in my life i gotta learn the hard way. i can say that i learned how inept and corrupt the judicial system really is over what i thought prior to getting in though. now i at least have an approximate time frame for the ending when we get paid. so i'll just wait that out, or maybe it happens sooner.
thx for the compliment but that one you'll have to do yourself. just read it and answer the questions. the only thing i'm any good at with a pc is plain cut and paste, and researching. anything else is time consuming for me to learn. i get by on the basics now. ever since they changed all the jargon, platforms, and procedures on how to maneuver around the computer i said bleep this. i'm not relearning it all over again!!!
i will tell you one thing guaranteed though. Irell & Manella are already all over this because everything this judge pitman has said in that document denying nlst transferring the case to the eastern district is contradicting everything in prior court documents. they will have a field day with him just because his reasoning dictates he didnt read and doesnt know whats going on. good luck on whatever you decide to do.
LOL. Sorry gdog. Just need to balance out our optimism by considering what the other side is thinking.
everytime I get ready to ad a few hundred more Papa makes another post and then I Start thinking what if he's right lol
100lb Striper, Great info. Please post the form you filed so other shareholders can file it to scjc Texas. Please make it easy for other shareholders to follow through. Thanks in advance,
$NLST Don't sit idle. Expose the Farce and Corruption.
https://www.scjc.texas.gov/media/46893/scjc-complaint-form.pdf
i'm sure i and m have already filed their complaint against judge pitman !!!
$NLST Obviously we live in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty. What are the chances that Pitman denied NLST's motion to transfer from the WD to the ED due to his incompetence in not realizing that injunctive relief was requested by NLST.
There are 3 options here:
1. Pitman only read Micron's motion to deny the transfer and keep the case stayed pending IPRs and took everything Micron said for total facts (utter ignorance and gross negligence).
2. Pitman missed the part in NLST's motions where they did in-fact seek injunctive relief before making his ruling on the motion to deny (incompetence).
3. Pitman had interest in denying NLST their right to a timely justice by denying their motion to transfer the case or proceed with trial (malpractice, corrupt).
I would be very dissatisfied with anyone claiming that the WD docket is very heavy and they are too busy to read through all of the information before making a ruling on filed motions. There is no excuse.
$NLST Goes with my previous post below....from Micron's 10Q that I referenced and Silvia posted — "On April 28, 2021, Nettist filed two patent infringement actions against Micron in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas. The first complaint alleges that one U.S. patent is infringed by certain of our non-volatile dual in-line memory modules. The second complaint alleges that three U.S. patents are infringed by certain of our load-reduced dual in-line memory modules (LRDIMMs"). Each complaint SEEKS INJUNCTIVE RELIEF, damages, attorneys' fees, and costs."
Like I previously said and pointed out....Pitman is a hack....and knows exactly what he's doing by misrepresenting Netlist's position, or ignoring it. Furthermore....Micron is playing games, stating one thing to the SEC in their 10Q filing, and the complete opposite in court documents.
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Stokd $NLST In Silvia's post of Micron's 10Q Patent Matters, when referring to our WD case/s — "Each complaint seeks injunctive relief" — Micron admits Netlist is seeking an injunction.
Yet "lack of injunctive relief" was the basis for Judge Pitman's denial of lifting the WD case stay.
"Specifically, the Court found that a stay would not unduly prejudice Netlist because it had delayed in serving Micron with its complaints and because, although Netlist has alleged that competes with Micron, Netlist has not requested injunctive relief from the Court."
And Micron contradicts its own 10Q—they can lie to Courts but not SEC.
"Micron argues that maintaining the stay would not unduly prejudice Netlist because Netlist has not requested injunctive relief in this case"
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Pitman justifies his farce — "While competition between the parties can weigh in favor of finding undue prejudice, a party’s failure to request injunctive relief can indicate that the party is not unduly prejudiced by a stay of its case."
lets just keep our fingers crossed and hope it works out. i just cant see cafc succumbing to peetab after cafc has already upheld the 912.
Yup that's basically what I said too, it might not impact them at all. And last PTAB decision was in their favor, so they're not wrong in what they said. And Director Review (with compromised Vidal) won't help Netlist. I've said it before, the weight of the Netlist world rides on the CAFC patent decision. And I think we have the ace in the hole with Warwick on that case. That's why I'm still hopeful. Just can never be sure till it concludes.
lol !!!! so they say it will have no impact upon their business...........
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i agree with everything you said. but i dont think they counted on nlst to go the distance with them. so the thing is the perspective has changed dramatically and so will the outcome. their just in so deep now they only have 2 choices, settle or see it to its conclusion.
EXACTLY !!! https://netlist.com/products/sk-hynix/
NLST BABY !!!
GET SOME !!!
Yes most likely they will. Let's hope by the time the SK contract needs renewal we'll have some conclusion to the 2 questions of patent validations and Netlist viability as a business.
Let's realize we see things through Netlist 'rose colored glasses'. We're quite sure the patents and the appeals will all hold up, and we hope Netlist has enough funds to keep going and keep paying for litigation. If we just try to think like the infringers and even SK, we'd see that they're thinking and hoping for the exact opposite as what we're thinking and hoping for. And to be honest, it's benefited them greatly over the years. Yes things are finally going in Netlist favor with litigations, but the opposition sees the possibility (even if slim) of it all eventually going their way. Patents remain invalidated. Netlist goes bankrupt. Either or, and they're finally off the hook completely (or for the most part). That's why despite winning over a billion dollars (including interest) in our court cases so far with more to come, our stock price languishes. Not only do the infringers hope and believe these things, so do the shorters, market makers, and the market in general. There is a perception problem with Netlist that only final conclusion of patent validations, trials, and appeals will dispel.
And we believe the truth is on our side. And for that we wait.
TOMKiLA $MU forget to pay netlist for its tech before to talk about HBM! Over 445m $ in the last patent litigation for only 2 patents. The next patent litigation will be soon about 5 different patent that cover all the dram revenues of micron (ddr5, LRDIMM and HBM) $NLST
“Netlist Innovation: In 2010, Netlist invented proprietary designs underpinning the successful creation and proliferation of stacked HBM today. Netlist stands at the forefront of HBM innovation allowing for the recent explosive growth of AI. Netlist’s innovations help provide those performance gains, thus allowing AI to tackle more challenging tasks and execute operations that were previously unimaginable”
https://netlist.com/about/
Well like you said they are making big $ with NLST so why would they switch?
i'm just hoping it works out the same way and they dont change their minds!!!
coupled with they have to see the writing on the wall concerning the outcome of our current litigation
They were the only ones that saw it the first time, that why they made the deal.
fwiw, my 2 cents is they renegotiate. seeing they settled the first time around and have increased their revenue through doing so, coupled with they have to see the writing on the wall concerning the outcome of our current litigation. which just happens to be in the area of finalization by the time their contract is up.
i cant see them wanting us to have to sue them all over again, but then again i have learned the lunacy of what can happen with all this bs backstabbing ip legal infringement as a business through a convoluted justice system that allows it to take place for way too long before they can do anything about it !!!!
thxs no not playing foriegn either way to many to play already
I know the contract was made and it was mentioned here how long before it comes up again. seems like 26 but thats just a guess
SK has an agreement with Netlist. But they, like the other infringers, may still hope that either: 1)Netlist's patents get invalidated, or 2)Netlist goes under. Either way there would be no need for them to renegotiate a contract with Netlist when their current contact ends (which I wonder how long their agreement is for?). Until patents are validated (yet again) and the viability of Netlist is assured, we have no real friends.
already looked it up its on the korean exchange. i stopped there as i do not want to bother with trading foreign exchanges. although, with the current events and revenue going there way it sounds like a really good long term play. g/l....
and yes i've wondered about the plug thing many times since i've held nlst.
Is SK hynix publicly traded? if so you know the ticker? I can't seem to fined it
Why can't they throw NLST a bone while plugging for SK
Morgan Stanley says memory stocks are set for ‘new highs’ and names its top picks
PUBLISHED WED, JUN 26 20247:13 PM EDTUPDATED MOMENTS AGO
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/27/morgan-stanley-likes-the-memory-sector-and-picks-its-top-stocks.html
sign up to get the rest of it........
From the Morgan Stanley piece on the leaders in the Hbm market here is the quote
“We think SK Hynix is clearly in a league of its own within the HBM [high-bandwidth memory] category, and believe it will sustain the best idiosyncratic growth/returns and hold the majority of HBM market share in 2025,” the analysts explained.”
those numbers should make some head lines. i know the cutting of that check will definitely spring board the pps. and rigged is putting it mildly.
The system is rigged against the little guy when the Google case starts I think peoples eyes will open!!
mainstream gets to realize it when scam and micrap finally allow their share holders to read the q or 10k that says they cut nlst a check or checks that significantly cut into their bottom line. not too mention how it will cut into future bottom lines !!!
other than that they only get to read the occasional pr from nlst that says they won hundreds of millions of dollars for willful theft of ip. i dont think either of the two even put out a pr saying what happens to them at the conclusion of jury trials. i could be wrong but it was just a passing thought that i'm not even going to bother to find out lol !!!
When is mainstream going to realize NetList patents is reason Micron and Samsung are able to do what they do https://netlist.com/products/ai-server/
Looks like Micron is making bank at the expense of NetList
Stokd $NLST The briefing on Netlist's motion requesting Final Judgment in the Micron 294 case—with $445 million trial verdict—is complete. It's in Gilstrap's hands now....we'll soon hear what he thinks and has to say, maybe he just drops Final Judgment as his ruling on the motion—granted!
All but the actual motion—which was posted here May 30—are sealed. Pictured are Micron's Response, followed by Netlist's Reply, and lastly today Micron's Sur-Reply. Now, after allowing due process and following procedure, the judge can act.
It may seem as though nothing is happening, but there is a lot going on at all times—considering the amount of parallel litigation—and often quietly....progress is made.
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absolutely without a doubt, but then again its the dam waiting on closure!!!
I'm sure the accounting dept at Irell & Manella already has it figured out, including royalties. We're just waiting for Gilstrap to close any air gaps.
crime pays very well especially when everyone thinks your honestly making all your money on your own merit.
i wouldnt even argue with ya on the issue.
Wall Street is expecting chipmaker Micron to report an 80% jump in revenue in its third-quarter earnings results.
It'll be interesting to see how Netlist's technology contributed to Micron's bottom line.
https://qz.com/micron-revenue-expected-jump-third-quarter-earnings-1851561329
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And charge them for the delay … every day $$$
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