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RottenApple...
Well welcome back. When or if you go to catch up, please do not look for much variation in the Captains posts. They are all pretty much alike. Spam and/or off topic.
Now WMFT, he cannot sell any more PPs, so what he is up to posting here except for maybe saving a bit of face, DAMFINO.
There is really not much real hyping going on. More like wait and see if they can do anything with all of that money that they have borrowed.
I don't think that they really have a notion of doing anything.
Go through some motions and put a bunch of misleading junk on their website. MP spout the same meaningless junk. on his PODCASTS.
In the end, the lenders will take mosta the shares...but in the meanwhile, MP and his Buddies will have a high old time collecting their wages, bonuses and consulting fees.
Again, welcome back.
Has CDEX done bit off more than they can CHAW?? looks to me like it.
And they actually had LAWYERS there when the papers were signed!! Including MP!!
Today is 31 JULY. The other lenders of up to 1.5 million are due on board todsy.
The clock is ticking along at 12 percent interest. First payment due in six months. In addition to all the accumulated interest one twenty fourth of the Principal ill be due when the first six months are up. All that will take more money than CDEX is likely to make selling stuff.
So they will take shares instead.
If the SP is below 30, the coversion rate will not be 30 cents a share. The conversion rate will be figgered on a volume weighted average SP over a ten day period just before the payent is due.
If the SP goes up above 30 cents, The conversion rate will still stay at 30 cents. Even if the SP goes to a buck or more.
Ole Crowe
Well here we are at 26 June. Only four more days to wait until it is announced which incredibly fortunate PO-LEECE DEAPRTMENT OR Real estate firm gets that first shrink wrapped MYTH GUN!!
I wonder if they had to draw lots to determine the winner?? LOL!!
Or is it first come etc??
Pore ole Geezer. He is getting ever more flack and finding it ever harder to put a silk flower on EMPEECDEX speak.
A better mouse-trap Geezer, will not get them to come and buy unless there are mice to catch, and the cat has died.
If the choice is more Tasers and police cars or an expensive
MYTH GUN of small use...the result is obvious and highly predictable. They are catching a lot of Meth dealers w/o it.
But the MYTH GUN along with some fast BOOLSHEET from EMPEECDEX makes a good story to sell PPs by. At least up to now. But four more days from now?? We await and see.
I see that the CAP'N has quit yet again. Dunno if he saw that nobody much was paying attention, or if they cut off his retainer as consultant again.
He has posted a HEAP of messages and links since the Q came out. Maybe he was after trying to bury that pitiful report under a barrage of posts, but whatever he was after, it was not working.
Also, he at least was implying some doubt about the MYTH gun shipping by 30 June...
Malspeak is quite dangerous. A New York lawyer, a person that you would normally expect to be NOT in the least naive, bought off on it a couple weeks ago, and went out and bought him some more CDEX. This lawyer has had the stock for years, and never got much at all for his trouble and expense.
One should think that he would have learned by now. One would be wrong if one so thought. This lawyer switches from believer to agnostic with almost every change of the moon. Right now he is highly agnostic. But with a bigger investment to do it with.
Having a large sum of money invested in something is a powerful promotor of misguided belief.
.But then came the Q report. EMPEECDEX has only a limited ability to lie on THAT report. It ain't like a PODCAST, where one may lie to ones hearts content, so long as one throws in obscure words here and there to give one some wiggle room if ever confronted. At which EMPEE is a master practitoner
He feels secure in the knowledge that most shareholders in prospect and already sucked in, will put the best possible interpretion on his words.
Our Lawyer, despite hearing numerous times that the technology is rather commonplace and widely used for various purposes, believes that it is special and worth a heap, if only there was a competent person as CDEX CEO.
Like most LONGs, he has a habit of believing exactly the wrong people, and calling the ones he should hear and heed as "Bashers".
Ole Crowe
Most JUDGES are good and learned people. A few are dumb and ignorant asses. Some are very corrupt.
They need to be very up on rules of evidence and procedure..what is admissable and what is not.
Some are meaner than a wild bull infested with TSE TSE flies.
Or ZSA ZSA Gabor when hassled by a traffic cop.
They can be Moderate, Liberal or Conservative...whatever all that malarky means...but they need to be even handed.
Then yet more..START THREE POSTS DOWN AND READ UPWARDS
Monsoonman,
Here's a simple [series of] Q's for you, if you don't mind.
I see the distaste you have for a certain poster (me) who(m) you think posted "lies" on a stock chat board. I see the distrust and the empathy that you display toward how this hurt the LOCH/CDEx shareholder.
You gotta admit... what I might have repeated from LOCH's inner circle and posted on a message board had less than one millionth the impact of what LOCH and MP, Baker, Poteet, Blair, Boone, etc, etc did.
What you think I did does not even register in the same ballpark as what MP (the LOCH SEC attorney back then) allowed LOCH to post through PR's.
If you hate what [you think] I did.... how angry are you at MP ? How much distrust do you have for MP ?
Please... I gotta know why you never even bring that up... in fact YOU ARE ALWAYS DEFENDING THESE SCAM ARTISTS !!!
Good grief.... You must REALLY REALLY hate and DISTRUST MP and all the lies he allowed the boys to put out through PR's etc etc back in those LOCH/CDEx days.
Why not just say so ?
You do know that was his job right ? Please tell me youhave researched it enuff to know MP's history with LOCH ? Right ?
Thanks in advance.... gotta run... heading ~out.
Be back within the next few days.... depending on this crazy Cheeseconsin weather.
Have a good night Monsoonman...
~Kidd
~out
To which CISCO replied thusly...
In reply to: whitemanfromtown who wrote msg# 26623 Post # of 26625
Monsoonman,
Sure, let's discuss.
"You need to come clean to the readers of this and the other boards as to how much money you skinned from the loch shareholders when you were touting the lucent & ge deals? Remember those little gems?"
First, where do you think the "insider information" came from ? Yes, correct.... the inside.
Second, Do I feel bad for posting MP's lies ?
Yes, correct.... It really, really pissed me off that LOCH/CDEx spread those lies to major shareholders to keep them from selling.... and yes, that I fell for it and spread it as "Good News". Luckily many others were much smarter than I. They were smart and sold.
"You touted while you were selling."
Actually I WISH I would have sold then... it would have saved me alot of time and effort going after LOCH/CDEx legally.
"Now you come back here to point the finger at others"
Others ? By others do you mean the insiders that SPREAD that BS to major shareholders ? Why not point the finger at the source ? Seriously... why not ? I admit it was all my fault for posting it... nobody told me to, nobody even asked me to. What I did was icing on the cake for the SCAM artists... I reached the small shareholders... probably many of them through RB... and if that influenced the small shareholders not to sell... then it hurt alot of small shareholders. absolutely... my fault.
"You want some respect and be listened to?"
Seriously.... that's funny. Respect ? Listened to ?
1) I have all the respect I need.
2) I speak the truth... listen or not, I really don't care. Nasfan didn't listen to me and now he's curled up like a little ball wishing he had.
I told LOCH/CDEx shareholders to sell on the September pump to $1.00 .... that's $45 CEXI.OB money. Get it ? Those that listened to me LOVE ME !!!! I have about 4 dozen emails to prove it.
HERE'S THE MATH !!!!
Take that and multiply it by a modest 5% return since Spetember 2000 and compare it to what people like you are promoting. Who's has the better return ?
My $45 CEXI.OB eq times 5% for 7 years ?
... or your current CEXI.OB 36 cents ?
"Divulge how much you got for your touting and then give it to chairity then we might start to believe you."
Again... I'm not making these above numbers up... they are, in fact, historical fact, and you and everyone knows it.
"Divulge how much you got for your touting and then give it to chairity then we might start to believe you."
It wasn't so much the stock I sold AFTER the big run-up.... although that was alot as well.... but the settlement. I admit... THAT's where most of my "profit" came from.
Yes, charities were a big part of not just me, but several in my group. But that credit goes to my parents for teaching me my values and right from wrong... and that I learned that giving to charities actual makes me feel good... it's like going to church... it's a POSITIVE in the life dept. not a chore like you must think it is from your comments.
It's safe to say that I have given more to charity than you will ever earn in your entire lifetime.
If you knew who I (and my family) was you'd know that to be a fact..... and please.... I don't mean that to sound the wrong way. It's just to make a strong point. It's a fact.
"Until then you are just another sleazy con man, lumped in with the rest of your aliases and your team."
Please, name ONE THING I have done that was sleazy or one act like a "con man"... I'd love to hear JUST ONE !!!!!
No aliases.... and none of my "team" if you will have ever posted on any of these stock boards (that I know of).
~Kidd
Ole Crowe
Then Cisco was asked this........
cisco kidd: Since you are doing your drive bys on rb and here, under your assorted aliases. You need to come clean to the readers of this and the other boards as to how much money you skinned from the loch shareholders when you were touting the lucent & ge deals? Remember those little gems? You touted while you were selling. Now you come back here to point the finger at others. You want some respect and be listened to? Divulge how much you got for your touting and then give it to chairity then we might start to believe you. Until then you are just another sleazy con man, lumped in with the rest of your aliases and your team.
Oh yeah, fooooore!
Ole Crowe
By Cisco
Shareholders ?
"Isn't it interesting that the 6 top/most prolific posters on this board aren't even shareholders in this company?"
Monsoonman.... This stock has gone steady in the downward direction for over SEVEN YEARS... Back when it was trading under the symbol LOCH .... it reached a high of almost $6.00 !!!! THAT'S BACK WHEN THE VERY SAME MANAGEMENT AND SEC LAWYER MP WAS TELLING A BUNCH OF BS TO THEIR SHAREHOLDERS (Including some of the same lies that hurt shareholders that I repeated on a different message board).
If you do the math of the effective 45 to 1 stock split... THAT'S LIKE CEXI.OB TRADING AT ALMOST $ 270.00 !!!
Back when Standard Chimp and I posted about the upcoming pump and dump in September of 2000 (that we both let the SEC in on and discussed with them the source of a certain lawyer) .... LOCH/CDEx sprouted up to almost $1.00 on very, very heavy volume.
If you do the math of the effective 45 to 1 stock split... THAT'S LIKE CEXI.OB TRADING AT ALMOST $ 45.00 !!!
Now please tell me how it's wrong to save actually sold this LOCH/CDEx and been a witness to it's consistant fall from such great heights to it's now sub-penny LOCH equivalent.
0.36 divided by 45 (from the 45 to 1 LOCH / CDEx stock split) IS LESS THEN ONE PENNY !!!!
These non-shareholders are the SMART ONES !!!!
Are you saying it would have been better to still be invested in LOCH/CDEx today ?
DO YOU understand how much money LOCH/CDEx shareholders who hung on have lost ?
Good grief.... I bet you could't even find an airport that you said you flew into... I bet you would even swear it didn't exist.
Oh that's right... you did say that.
Nevermind.
~Kidd
PS Why do you think MP told me all those lies.... hoping I'd tell others or even post them on a message board ? How many stockholders do you actually think that hurt ? What you think the SEC thought of that ? Guess what... they STILL don't like it and they still are treating CDEX just like it was still called LOCH. I guess changing the name and putting your SEC lawyer in charge doesn't fool everyone. Did they fool you ?
PPSS By the way... on that link Crow provided... it says MP founded CDEx... He didn't Mark Baker did. Mark Baker and Rod Boone hired MP to be the CEO of CDEx after MP was their SEC lawyer with LOCh and after MP was asked to leave his previous firm. Guess who talked to his previous firm ?
LOL !!!!!
lol....Yeah they should have the quotes from the Judges also in there...I have "did" a couple of Judges in my career...lol scary is all I can say.
Lawyer..Which way were you walking when you backed away?
Rooster Cogburn..well, backwards!! I always walk backwards when I am backing away.
Judge Parker..Don't banter words with counsel, marshall...
Marshal Rooster Cogburn.. Yessir.
OT...he..heees..
From a book called Disorder in the American Courts, they are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the mo ment of the impact?
WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
WITNESS: I forget.
ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
____________________________________
ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
WITNESS: He said, "Where am I, Cathy?"
ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
WITNESS: My name is Susan!
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Are you sexually active?
WITNESS: No, I just lie there.
_____________________________________
ATTORNEY: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo?
WITNESS: We both do.
ATTORNEY: Voodoo?
WITNESS: We do.
ATTORNEY: You do?
WITNESS: Yes, voodoo.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep,
he doesn't know about it until the next morning?
WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
____________________________________
ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he?
WITNESS: Uh, he's twenty-one.
________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
WITNESS: Are you shixx'in me?
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
WITNESS: Uh.... I was gett'in laid!
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: She had three children, right?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
WITNESS: None.
ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
WITNESS: Are you shixx'in me? Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney.
Can I get a new attorney?
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
WITNESS: By death.
ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
WITNESS: Now whose death do you suppose terminated it?
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard.
ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
WITNESS: Guess.
_____________________________________
ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
WITNESS: All my autopsies are performed on dead people.
Would you like to rephrase that?
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK?
What school did you go to?
WITNESS: Oral.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.
ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
WITNESS: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was doing an autopsy on him!
____________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
WITNESS: Huh....are you qualified to ask that question?
______________________________________
And the best for last:
ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.
Baseball/basketball players are perfect for PP investors. They make a lot of money, have little or no experience for handling it, and look to coaches and famous players and former players for guidance.
Also so do Retired people, widows and orphans of rich men look to financial advisors and insurance men.
None or few of the above mentioned are stock brokers, but they can recommend low priced securties such as CDEX.. and take consulting fees for their trouble...LEGALLY.. w/o publicity.
LOCH/CDEx
"This could explain why a TEXASS-LICENSED NUCLEAR ENGINEER working at WINSTON & STRAWN's nuclear energy practice in DC would have been in a position to know the WINSTON & STRAWN DC OFFICE ENERGY GROUP CLIENT PG&E's DIABLO CANYON - and its Rodney Boone (a former college ballplayer and part of the well-known BOONE BASEBALL FAMBLY) to take over the "front man" exec position from R.B. BAKER and DENNIS HARRIS. And Boonie (Tier 1) did bring in lots of baseball money - just ask Kidd. And Rod was the new Saviour to make LOCH work after DENNIS HARRIS had gotten into a bit of a bind and was allowed to exit stage right and blamed for LOCH's past lack of commercial success."
Closer is still catching heat from many players.... nobody really cares for the "Guy" anymore, for many reasons, including the LOCH Scam.
After MP helped work out the 3fer1 and 2fer1 stock deal mess (that was created by Harris) there were many who thought he wasn't so bad. My lawyers knew otherwise and I spread the word not to trust him (or anyone associated with this mess).
After a little more research that we turned up, and that was shared with W&S .... the clown was asked to leave.
I understand perfectly why B&B asked him to run this under the new corp they founded. It takes a lawyer and their private priviledges to make sure secrets stay that way.
It was great to see the settlements, including our own. The shareholders... all the honest shareholders anyway...deserved to be compensated for this mess. I always hoped more would pursue a settlement, but certain kingpins kept it from getting organized (taking over lawsuits, etc.).
I don't think it's too late, by the way.... I know the SEC/FBI are still taking notes on LOCH/CDEx. I know they talk to many frequently and do not treat CDEx any different than LOCH. Name changes and giving your lawyer the keys does not fool everyone.
~Kidd
~out
PS Wish S.D./Xeno was still around. He was/is brilliant..... for a cheesehead that is.
Pigs-can-fly:
Most likely tennis-guy is Rancho Rio.
Seems Pigs Can Fly alias Diamont Dave has a problem. He has a list of old applications to join his board.
Among those is Himanez. Some have hinted that Himanez is Crow3.
That is true, Diamont, as you well knew. No you most assuedly do not want me on your board. You already rejected Himanez years ago. He asked as a joke, knowing well that you would reject him. At the time, I considered it a point of pride that you rejected me as Himanez.
I still hold that position. Nominate me, I will not run. Elect me, I will not serve. LOL!!
No need. Almost all on your board read what I write here..including you. You have a good board sometimes, with a variety of opinions. Since all already read what I post over here, you do not need me there.
However, in event at may you wish to reprint what I write on your board, you do have my permission... Verbatim..copy and print is available to you. Feel free... LOL!
Yep...it is not like it costs a fortune.
Glad to hear that the kids are doing well...
Thanks Crow...I will look for it otc...and ick.. no I don't smoke..I guess I haveta get my subscription up again for the Clydesdale has been making more headway and I can't post anything...unless I pay...lol..
So I will be paying so I can be saying soon...It's a small price to pay to keep the Clydesdale going on Google..
Posted by: Crow3
In reply to: None Date:3/22/2008 2:30:59 PM
Post #of 25189
CAP, I notice that you keep baiting RA.. you cannot, I think, induce the reaction that you apparentl;y wish for...nor make it appear that RA is unreasonably biased toward CDEX.
His position in re CDEX is eminently reasonable based on the history of the Company.
A history that has promised much, and delivered practically nothing.
A history that should have ended years ago.. but kept alive first to run out statutes of limitations, and then kept alive after it became apparent that there is money to be made in selling PP shares. For the promotors, not the stockholders.
One that dangled Valimed, manufactured a few that did not sell, and now after dangling the Myth gun..
Dangled with lies and broken promises, and other nefarious activities. Not to mention way out non-relevant posts by guess who, et al.
Posted by: rottenapple
In reply to: Crow3 who wrote msg# 24923 Date:2/29/2008 1:39:30 AM
Post #of 24929
Crow...intialy it started out at 50,000 shares. Somehow, not through my doing, the offer was dropped to 25,000 shares. I don't know the reason behind the drop in the offer.
I'm assuming the middle man who I was dealing with at the time thought he had more authority than he actually did. I can tell you I had no intentions of taking any offer, even if it had been 10 million shares. I only played along to see how far they would take it and to gather information.
There were also conditions to my receiving those shares. First, I had to quit pursuing the lawsuit I was involved with starting and I had to quit posting altogether. When I balked on the posting issue, the conditions changed to: Okay, I could post but the posts couldn't be too, too negative and I couldn't mention a certain attorneys name anymore. Oh, and one other thing, I couldn't bring any of my friends into the deal. Then they would have felt like I was trying to shake them down.
Of course, when it got down close to consummating the deal, I took it public and posted it on RB. I know some people are going to say "where's the proof"? All I can answer that with is: Does anyone actually believe I would post something like this unless it were true and unless I had the proof? Of course not!! I would be opening myself to a huge libelous & slander civil suit.
I've tried to turn this documented information over to the FBI and the SEC. Neither were interested. I even had two people on this board try to help me get it into the SEC's hands and one went so far as to send it to the FBI too. Both had talked with the SEC before and had a decent relationship with the SEC investiigators. At least I know one of them did.
The other person was capnmike who proclaimed he had a direct source with the SEC & FBI. Turns out his source with the SEC & FBI was nothing more than the snitch line email address that anyone can go to on the internet. If there is any doubt, here is a copy of the email he sent to the SEC. & what I responded with. I have blanked out some email addresses and real names. I did so to adhere to IHUB's posting rules. I don't wan't to see this post removed because of any rule breaking.
But, the case went no where and the person who contacted and sent this info to the SEC & FBI later told me, "I guess they weren't interested." The other person never receive a reply from the SEC either.
All I can tell the people reading this post is, "read it", use a little common sense, take it for what it's worth and decide for yourselves. I would be a fool to make something like this up!
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxx xxxxx - xxxxxxxx
To: xxxxxx@SEC.GOV
Cc: enforcement@sec.gov ; xxxxxxxxx1@xxxxx.net
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Loch Harris litigation-related tape recordings of telephone conversations available from Mr. xxxxx xxxxxx
To: xxxxxxxx xxxxx, SEC
From: xxxxxxx xxxxx, Sarasota, FL
Subj: Loch Harris litigation tape recordings available from Mr. xxxxx xxxxxx
Date: December 16, 2005
"cc: SEC Enforcement Division
cc: xxxxx x. xxxxxxx, Supervisory Special Agent, FBI Headquarters, Washington, D.C. ...via the FBI Web-based tip-line at https://tips.fbi.gov/
cc: Mr. xxxxx xxxxxx, email address: xxxxxxxxx1@xxxx.net
Dear Mr. XXXXX,
Today, December 16, 2005, Mr. xxxxxx published his view that I lied to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. This resulted in my composing a number of emails and ultimately calling Mr. xxxxxx via the number he provided.
Mr. xxxxxx and I hope to meet face-to-face one day, and he shared that he is reluctant to mail or “Fed-Ex” to the authorities his Loch Harris litigation-related telephone conversation tape recordings. However, per our conversation, he did indicate that he is willing to bring this previously undisclosed Loch Harris litigation-evidence to an SEC or FBI field office near his home where he and I would both appear in person.
My options were limited as a named-plaintiff in the Loch Harris class action lawsuit. Combining that with the fact that Mr. xxxxxx choose to “opt out” of the settlement agreement, I did all that I thought I could do by providing the following transcript immediately after receiving the message from Mr. xxxxxx - recorded on my answering machine (somewhere in the August 2004 timeframe):
= = = = = = =
xxxx, this is “xxxxxxxxx” xxxxx xxxxxx …ah…, saw your post on the …ah ah… True CDEX Long board …ah…I see you sent that to xxxxx …ah… I appreciate you doing that and I have MORE information that I would share with you …ah… if you…all you have to do is give me a call. My phone number is 617… nah, take that back
…. (xxx) xxx-xxxx. Um, call me and I’ll share with you what I have, long as your going to turn it all in. Thank you. Bye.
= = = = = = =
Please advise if there is interest in pursuing or obtaining the undisclosed evidence Mr. xxxxxx wishes to provide in person, in which case I will arrange travel to an SEC or FBI field office as agreed.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter.
xxxxxxx xxxxx
Posted by: rottenapple
In reply to: None Date:2/29/2008 2:10:18 AM
Post #of 24929
RE: My previous. Not that I'm paranoid but the tapes & copies of tapes are in three different locations, including a safety deposit box. My house has 2 different sophisticated alarm systems, a mean dog and a DVR video surveillance system. Just though I would mention that.
wmft...is that tinfoilhat big enough for you?
Did you know that some of the genes in your body are patented?? "Owned" by some Pharm Company or research University??
Read "NEXT"...by Micheal Crighton...
As I have posted before..I suspect that most "counterfiets" are exact copies...made in some other country.. and the drug companies here have wadded panties because of it...
If CDEX had been truthful about Valimed from the start, instead of misleading about pills, counterfiet drugs, whiskey testing, salinity and sterlity testing, etc, rtc, none of which Valimed can do..
Maybe they could have had sales on its merits. But never enough to make the company profitable.
If a counterfiet drug is fed into the machine, claiming to be med X, but is not, then Valimed, if X is signatured, will return a negative. It would be necessary to go much further to determine if it is a counterfiet.. or wwhatinhell it really is instead of X..Send it off to a lab.
If the counterfiet is an exact copy of X, then Valimed would return a positive.
Worth repeating...from Milchip
Jenn:
You are right on the money. Certainly the question of whether the latest revelation constituted "independent "testing is subject to differing interpretations.
The report is good. The weight to be given it is something else.
Makes no difference to me. It's quite obvious that MP has milked the PR's and news outlets concerning the meth gun and Valimed, to the point of redundancy. He got the pps up to the 50 cent plus range with this strategy. But it's like sticking your finger in the dike. Sooner or later, without another solution, that dike is going to leak.
Without news of contracts, sales, revenues, etc., the dike (pps) is starting to to leak.
It's put up or shut up time for CDEX. Videos of Barney Fife testing the meth gun or Jim Stevenson extolling the virtues of Valimed have run their course.
Sales, contract and revenues is the bottom line and if that occurs, that's enough validation for me of the efficacy of Valimed and the meth gun.
Right on..if it will not sell, it does not matter if it is good or bad.
Right white a yew ta say so... LOL!! But whatever stature I have is illusionary.. I am just a sexy auld mon with a perpetual lust on... LOL!!
Hey!!! I looked it up and I believe you do...LOL
Yep..it is set apart alright. If only valimed and the "gun" will sell, and CDEX can find the money and/or partnership to manufacture enough of them, it might even become profitable.
Trouble is, the "niches" that CDEX has determined to fill are not ones that will lead to profitability.
The real aims, though, to enrich a few insiders has worked beautifully.
BTW, I have not much stature...LOL!!
Crow I believe that a man of your stature would have to agree that being placed in a Worldwide Recognised ASHP Publication.. with our Valimed Name being published and Time stamped in History.
...Is an Accomplishment that sets us apart from the rest of the Pennystocks out there..
Now ask yourself..what has the CEO been doing all this time??
Has he helped promote the shares?? From LOCH days all through
to the present??
Can you doubt that every decision made in the day to day running of the Company comes through him??
do you really expect that the MYTH GUN will save your "investment??" That it will sell any better than the failed Valimed??
Read and weep..GEEZER.. your "investment" is a goner.
Well maybe not quite. Instead of selling shares to the public,
exclusively, they found a law that says that they can sell shares to certain people "behind the wall".. doing private placements. In that respect, CDEX does differ from LOCH... those sales are not reported by any market makers.
But does that change the only true and real objective, which is to sell shares??
Does the history of LOCH/CDEX suggest that they are really engaged in development of a real product?? If so, where is the revenue?? Where might the devices be obtained?? From where has practically all the money that they have collected come from??
If you say from selling shares.. BINGO.. You win the purpule Cow!!
NOTE to the Geezer....
Think, INET.. Is it possible that crooks have gotten together from time to time, here and there, and conspired together to sell shares of small value to the public??
That in the course of doing so, that they would put on a 'legal" face, getting the shares incorporated in a state of the US?? Elect or appoint board members and officers of the "company??"
That they would hire professional promoters to promote the shares, go on stock chat rooms, engage market makers, and otherwise begin to dispense the shares??
That they would claim to have "under development" some "badly needed" devices that will fill a "vital need".. which "vital need" they would find by reading and researching the media of all kinds??
That they would make thoroughly disclaimed promises that the device(s) will be ready for the market "soon" But never actually getting it done??
That their true and only real objective is to sell shares??
Is all that possible?? If so, how does LOCH/CDEX stack up against the above profile?? Does it fit to a T??
Loch-Harris is still living in CDEX.. Here it is at the end of 2007, and the promised marketing in the Myth gun is not. It has been postponed. Maybe Feb next year?? They say so..me I do not expect that any marketing will be successful.
It is the history of this outfit that nothing has ever been done on schedule...except share manipulation to maximize PP investments..
I see that one of my favorite commentor/posters has finally returned... the one that INET thinks (very mistakenly) is one and the same with Elmo..LOL!!
Apparently that fellow that sees dead people is no longer with that outfit.. especially since Coquille was let back in..
Poor Jen...he was expecting something in 2007 (what, who knows)
from CDEX... I do believe that he sprang for an additional PP investment. Some never learn!!
Just in case...of lack of welcoming reception on the CDEX board.
I reckon the Geezer must be reading and listening to a different MP than the rest of us. No Hyping? No lying? Always Honest? TEE HEE and HAW HAW!!
The only place that MP is even vaguely truthful and honest is in his disclaimers. And THEY are designed to save his skinny ass, not for the sake of truth.
I wonder if Geezers views spill over into his politics? Does he vote Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or what?? How much political rhetoric does he actually believe??
BTW, MPs "pod casts" are NOT to keep the old LOCH shareholders informed. They are for one purpose only. To sell new Suckers on PP investments.. And he is being coached by that big LLP in Dallas that he hired recently to hawk CDEX PP shares.
MP cares not a fig for the pesky LOCHCDEX "LONGS".. Not a bit.
To him, THEY mean no more than a pissant crawling accross the floor.
By: dr_biffnix
27 Jun 2007, 07:06 PM EDT
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By: ATXMAN
14 Mar 2006, 02:23 PM EST
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Raiderman and Capnmike, sirs just a couple of points if I may. First of all Raiderman I do love your take on everything as it is always good for CDEX. However this time your wrong and it is not the first time (are you sure your not Tomsheboy). Infrigment of a patent is very serious and has nothing to do with your logic, plain and simple the plaintiff had it first and just wants to protect their's. Now let's think for a minute, the suit was filed last week, the company notified CDEX in January (was MP still running the show), MP walks away with no feedback to the plaintiff and now this. Raiderman wonder who has the deep pockets to fight this and keep it in court? Wonder who will give first? Quite the scam artist you are.
Capnmike, sir it is quite amazing as if you look at the last time you quit posting was 3 days before the downfall of Loch (quite a track record)and then announce the day before you are going to cut way back on posting and then CDEX gets hit with a major lawsuit. Also you never did answer my question in regards how you produced a press release before it came out (remember the Washington affair). I just don't know why you don't let the people here know the truth that you are a insider and was told what to place and when to place. Don't forget we do know some of the same people. This is quite an interesting tale you weave.
Thank You
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By: ATXMAN
25 Jan 2004, 07:13 PM EST
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Raiderman, sir I thought I would ask you another question (since you never answered my last one). You just stated in your post over on the CDEX board, that MP was a respected Washington attorney. I was wondering where you came up with that? Is it respectable of him not to inform the firm he worked for that he was a paid consultant to Loch Harris?
Bottom line is that a respectable way of doing business?
Thank You
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By: ATXMAN
18 Jan 2004, 01:33 PM EST
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MP sir if you are such a "God fearing" man why have you not come clean with the facts and truths about your previous relationships with Loch, W&S, the partnerships you and the boys were in, etc. You speak of God on a daily basis but you do not have the guts to tell the truth to your fellow man, your shareholders, etc. MP you belong in the same category as Jim and Tammy Faye B., Jimmy S., Jessie J., and Al S. I guess people such as yourselves enjoy playing off weakness of others and try to make a buck out of it.
MP morally you are one corrupt man.
Thank You
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By: ATXMAN
19 Oct 2003, 06:40 PM EDT
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Hello everyone it has been a few months since my last post and I notice some things have changed and others have not.
I see the distribution for the CDEX shares is beginning to take place and that has taken me by surprise. To this day I strongly believe that both companies are complete but controlled "scams".
I have read so much about the integrity of the CEO but no one again questions his path as for years only a handful question the path of Loch's CEO. Everyone presumes that he "left" his law firm on his accord and was not pushed out, I believe that shareholders should look into his firms association with Loch Harris and you will notice that his law firm never appears but his name does, does anyone want to know why?
If anyone has chosen to read some of my earlier posts, you will see that he was a part of Loch as a paid consultant for at least 3 years prior to the companies demise. You have also learned that he has played a part in a few of the "penny stock" firms whose management or promoters has strong ties to Loch as well.
I have spent the last 10 weeks in Washington, D.C. for my work not related to this mess but I have taken the time to ask certain questions to several department leaders in H.S., D.O.D., N.O., the F.D.A. and I am quite comfortable that the name CDEX is not a player in any areas of which these departments are looking at for product, advice, or ideas.
Some of the so-called promoters of Loch Harris, have in fact shot themselves in the foot by pointing out how "over and over" again the number of companies whose ideas patented or not is appearing in certain documents of the new company.
CDEX has went through close to 3 million dollars and what have they shown for it? I see around 11 updates on their website and applications for a grant for testing purposes. At this point anyone with a game plan could duplicate the success that CDEX has shown and not needed to spend 1 dollar.
Before all of you keep following the pied piper at least look into the CEO's past closer. Most of you have been led once by the nose but it does not have to happen twice. You can always use the shares as toilet paper or make paper dolls out of it.
Thank You
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By: ATXMAN
03 Dec 2003, 11:39 PM EST
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Sact, sir as I am a expert witness in a case with W&S you learn a few facts. Glad to see you are connecting the dots to DH and MP. Have you ever wondered if they shared more than a ranch or two together, very interesting.
Thank You
crow ...
Now I happened to lunch once with a British fellow of great knowledge who had attended a meeting with that same pair of promotors,...
Excerpt (tm capndagood) from an e-mail I got from that "British fellow" way back when:
"When I met with Ramsay & Co it was at their request and nothing to do with LOCH. One of my companies was getting a lot of press and its stock price was soaring as a result. Ramsay contacted me under the guise of having some clients who were interested in purchasing a large block of stock. I soon found out that the reason for his call was to offer me his group's stock promotion services! Sure, he had people who would buy our stock (at a large discount) and then pump it in the market for a very hefty return. I told him thanks, but no thanks, and bid my farewell! He used his experiences with LOCH, DRYD, EDIG and SHPH to help sell his services; that's how I first became aware of LOCH."
Also ... another excerpt (tm capndagood) from an e-mail I sent someone back in Dec '00:
"Philips' name surfaced as a result of an email that was sent by
one of the hypesters to a "wrong" person (a highly respected and connected
Dallas-area businessman -- purely coincidentally, we have some mutual
friends). The email was a blatant and unsolicited "courting" email. He
forwarded it to me and to one other person, asking for our thoughts (you can
guess what they were!) and then he asked me to give it to the authorities along with how they
could reach him, which of course I did. My song and dance on the board
yesterday over Philip's name was totally disingenuous. I wanted to try to
flush out anyone who would be flushed ... particularly the poster who sent
the email that revealed so much. (No success yet.)"
Could it possibly have been you who sent that courting e-mail, capndagoodwowmike?
Recall if ye will, that the twice poster called HOTELS reported that he was contacted by LOCH BOYZ re promotion of the stock. He refused, so off they went to Nigel and TB... HOTELS did not wanta do bidness with Parsons and that ILK.
If MP ws there at the meeting in Vegas, then he was involved, as a Lawyer, at least, even before the meeting with NIGEL and TB..
Now I happened to lunch once with a British fellow of great knowledge who had attended a meeting with that same pair of promotors, who assured the fellow that he went there with that
they could make his company highly profitable in short order.
The Brit of course, advised his friend to run the other way.
Clearly, they made the same pitch to the LOCH BOYZs, and got the OK to go. LOCH of course, had to get many more shares authorized and printed up, and turned over piles to Nigel and TB as compensation. DADOC was called in to push the shares from his WEB_SITE, and the highly successful P&D was launched.
It seems probable that MP was at that meeting. At least as the LOCH Lawyer.
ATXMAN..I have taken the liberty to re-post your post here. I hope that you do not mind.
: ATXMAN
In reply to: None Date:6/24/2007 10:59:32 PM
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Capnmike, sir it has taken me a year to find this message board. So please forgive me however I have been keeping abreast of the CDEX situation.
I must say after reading more than a 100 of your posts yesterday and today, I am confused as to what side of the fence you are on. You asked another poster a couple of questions regarding CDEX and the background of Malcom.
Thus I would like to ask a couple of questions myself. By the way just to be up front I already know the answers; 1) Why is it you posted back in the Loch days a press release a couple of hours before it was released to the public? 2) By doing that can you explain to us if you are an insider of CDEX? 3) If you are an insider have you been cast aside due to your limited knowledge of certain items and your health?
4) Back in the late 90's according to a friend of mine and someone you know as well, there was a meeting in Las Vegas with a certain group of investors and managers from Loch, now the question is who was their attorney in the room?
Thus all of this discussion about how long Malcom has been with Loch/CDEX is moot as he has been around from almost day one, long before he posted as "P4316" or something along those lines. A certain Kidd may be able to verfiy this as well.
Thank You
From alla that it would appear that MP may have gptten in slightly after Ramsay and TB..but not certain...
BELOW IS THE SERIES OF POSTS...
FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR...XENO WAS ONA ROLL!!
osted by: demmo47
In reply to: Crow3 who wrote msg# 17720 Date:2/2/2007 1:24:21 PM
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A review of the otcbb.com site reveals that very few CEXI shares have been legitimately shorted. But Xeno refers to “naked shares”. A whole different animal. The naked shorts were probably lined up to receive millions of soon to be authorized shares at a deep discount to market prices (i.e. “ten-centers”). When the flood gates open with newly authorized shares on the market, massive dilution would have eroded the share price. The naked shorts could cover with their discounted “borrowed” shares and not have to buy at market prices. It appears from trade reports that the MMs are trying (with little success) to walk the price up, increase volume and force a cover. I’m guessing the shorts will win, dilution will decrease the share price and the naked shorts will cover with deeply discounted shares. Bang - Instant massive dilution that will not show on daily volume reports
Posted by: Crow3
In reply to: Xenophon who wrote msg# 17718 Date:2/2/2007 1:24:16 PM
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Cutting way back on the burn rate, and selling shares to nursing homes and pro athletes, etc, is a slow way to go..but the only way that CDEX can stay alive for many more months.
A big pipe would bribg the curtain dowm fast.
Posted by: Xenophon
In reply to: Crow3 who wrote msg# 17719 Date:2/2/2007 1:09:48 PM
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Crow: that is why Griff and Strickland are still dangerous and they will watch out to make sure that the PIPEFITTERS are not hurt or they will start to light the bonfire.
I bleeve the PIPEFITTERS, IF they hold naked short positions, will eventually get newly issued shares directly (via a PIPE PP with warrants and other devices to disguise the level of discount) or via an intermediary entity to cover themselves - maybe at a nominal profit even.
Just like you don't risk a lawsuit by disgruntled Tier 2 folks with the means, you sure don't screw with folks like Griff, Strickland, and their PIPE buddies who are a MUCH tougher audience - especially once they have been "inside Oz".
It becomes a balance of power/Mexican standoff. The only guys who get ripped are the common shareholders who DON'T have the ability to wield a meaningful threat against anyone.
Such are the ways of the Street.
Moving the BID/ASK at virtually no volume is a risk-free gambit to trap suckers trying to ride the "story" of a short squeeze and perhaps gather intelligence as to the level or depth of any panic buying (which I doubt will happen for the reasons stated above).
Butt it's risk-free to the MMs (as long as volume is low) to try to trap followers of the "squeeze story".
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Posted by: Xenophon
In reply to: None Date:2/2/2007 12:51:13 PM
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Dale from Cincy asks why the scam continues, rather than letting the PIPE go thru and let the whole thing die.
The answer, Dale, is that some of the folks on the lower tiers (Tier 2 and lower) have a bunch of shares left in their pockets, as do certain PPers who have connections with folks in the securities industry who can get the Feds to relook at this with new info. (Folks like RLCJR and Milchip)
Those lower tier folks would have LOST the value of their shares if the PIPE went through and they would not have walked away and chalked it up to luck.
They called foul, and this FORCED MP to return (to CYA), sheetcan the PIPE, and Griff was tossed under the bus as the scapegoat du jour.
They HAD to "keep hope alive" or face some serious private lawsuits which would force DISCOVERY which could open the whole thing up for the Feds. They cannot allow DISCOVERY in litigation by a truly adverse party (which is what Degenhart and Gandy hoped for) - that is WHY the inside gang of Screwart and Mari hijacked Andy Badger's lawsuit against LOCH.
They similarly can't allow a lawsuit NOW. They HAVE to keep the hope alive and use it to hold off a lawsuit and DISCOVERY.
BTW, how is your "methgun in testing" any different than EM-1x at Kinmen Island and Yuma, or the Navy Phase I grant, or the PS3 "in active marketing" and "validated" by Lignon, Jenkins, a Tucson cop, and a retired UA professor - or ELF demo'd on the Capitol steps?
Has anything really changed other than the Golden Widget names?
Nah. Only the cast has shuffled chairs again.
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Posted by: Xenophon
In reply to: None Date:2/2/2007 10:35:35 AM
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Let me solve a puzzle for Dale in Cincy as an aside.
The reason the MMs are raising the ask for CDEx is their speculation that Griffon was the front man for a PIPE, and this was aborted by his "termination".
The MMs speculate that the PIPELAYERS had sold short (naked shorted) CDEx in the Fall of 2006 in anticipation of Griff getting a green light to do the pre-planned PIPE in January (just like Bucky Lyons did). With those PIPE dreams now gone due to Griffon's departure, the MMs are assuming that the PIPELAYERS are stuck in a large naked short position with very little trading volume to cover it.
So, the MMs are trying to run the PIPELAYERS and run the short in a squeeze play.
As I said before, it became a GREED GAME between the OLE TEXASS BOYZ and the NEW IPIX GANG as to which one got to screw the common shareholders. The OLE TEXASS BOYZ were dealt outt by Strickland and Griffin in favor of their own PIPEcleaners, then the OLE TEXASS BOYZ who own the gambling house decided to pull rank.
Now the Strickland/Griffin PIPELAYERS are left inna cold. The question is whether (and how much) they had naked shorted CDEx in anticipation of January.
Do you follow that, or will it require more explanation?
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Posted by: Xenophon
In reply to: sanddollar who wrote msg# 17699 Date:2/2/2007 10:29:50 AM
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Color code them this way: TEXASS RIGHTWING EVANGELICALS + MATZIG(Tier 0: Black), REQUIRED FRONTMEN NOT IN TIER 0 AND THE ORIGIN OF BUY-A-DREAM ASSETS (Tiers 0.5-1: Red), RETAIL AND WHOLESALE SALESCRITTERS, PURE PR MEN, PAID TOUTS AND HYPES (Tier 2: Blue), LINE RETAIL CLERKS AND UNPAID TOUTS AND HYPES REWARDED WITH "INSIDE" INFO (Tier 3: Green).
Of course, as in the rainbow, there are shades of each color.
Butt from a Category Theory perspective, this grouping is analytically appropriate, IMO.
Posted by: Xenophon
In reply to: sanddollar who wrote msg# 17696 Date:2/2/2007 10:10:00 AM
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What is more important is to focus on the Tier 0 Players - HARRIS, PHILIPS, THE BAKERS, MATZIG ... perhaps in some cases BUCKY LYON.
Potweety, Cauthen, and Blair were playing their own ongoing for-hire game of "pay me and I'll look like the next Golden Widget for you". The crashed into LOCH in the same way Screwart crashed into PetroTech. Let's call these Tier 0.5 Players, or Tier 0.75. I'd put RODNEY BOONE in that category also - like Lavalliere, he was Credibility-For-Sale and sports contacts for PPs - not the originators at Tier 0.
And secondarily, for sheets-and-giggles, also to find out WHO made the investment decisions for the Phelps-Dodge employee fund (Tier 1 or higher!).
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Posted by: Xenophon
In reply to: None Date:2/2/2007 9:43:17 AM
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Do you reckon that our TEXASS GANG (Tier 0), who have run so many ScamCos, from LOCH to AVSG to DRYD/CWIR, etc. figured out in the mid-late 90's that the real deep pool of PPer MONEY was highly paid athletes and then the REAL SUCKER BAGHOLDER average Joe suckers would flock to follow the "smart money" of pro athletes once they found out about it and buy their PP shares and also more of those of the TEXASS GANG and their numerous LLCs?
This could explain why a TEXASS-LICENSED NUCLEAR ENGINEER working at WINSTON & STRAWN's nuclear energy practice in DC would have been in a position to know the WINSTON & STRAWN DC OFFICE ENERGY GROUP CLIENT PG&E's DIABLO CANYON - and its Rodney Boone (a former college ballplayer and part of the well-known BOONE BASEBALL FAMBLY) to take over the "front man" exec position from R.B. BAKER and DENNIS HARRIS. And Boonie (Tier 1) did bring in lots of baseball money - just ask Kidd. And Rod was the new Saviour to make LOCH work after DENNIS HARRIS had gotten into a bit of a bind and was allowed to exit stage right and blamed for LOCH's past lack of commercial success.
This could explain how ROBERT LEE MATZIG's Avid Sportswear at the same time lured Mike Lavalliere (Pittsburgh major league star- Tier 1) to be a "front man" exec for AVSG - and sign off on the Avid leases, and net SEC-REPORTED co-investors MARIO LEMIEUX (famous Pittsburgh hockey star).
LaValliere, Michael(2) 1,762,940 3.8% 172,923
Lemieux, Mario 300,000 * 300,000
Trottier, Doug E. 6,000 * 6,000
Seeing these guys would make lower level sports figures and more importantly the general penny stock investing public think these shell companies had credibility. It also gave the TEXASS GANG access to PP money to sell newly printed shares to at a discount - the LOCH 2-for-1 deals - so the Big League ballplayers were allowed to make a modest profit and walk away generally happy after they were used for appearances to suck in more money from non-sports players (like Madison softball players hanging out at a Dump across from the ballfield - "Hey, this company is run by a Baseball Boone, it must be legit!" or "Mario Lemieux invested in this one, so it must be legit.")
Note the common scheme at a common time among companies that all originated from TEXASS, and more particularly ROBERT LEE MATZIG and DENNIS HARRIS.
Note that the Tier 2 gameplayers (who were sent out to find the low-level suckers to impress with how the company is legit and has attracted all this Sports Money and New Front Men to invigorate share sales (PPs and market) of their long-moribund pennystocks were almost the SAME in the companies.
Here are some of the common LOCH Second Tier players and the AVSG Second Tier players (the "SALESMEN") or at least Fambly Rewardees (from AVSG SB-2) - they all have similar links to LOCH:
Baker, Carol 6,000 * 6,000
Curtis, Christopher D. 100,000 * 100,000
Fisher, John C. 300,000 * 300,000
Gillette, Bryan 150,000 * 150,000
Huzella, James W. 100,000 * 100,000
Huzella, Nicholas S. 100,000 * 100,000
Huzella, Norbert T. 150,000 * 150,000
Huzella, Thomas R. and 300,000 * 300,000
Carole L.
Jakovac, Frank J. 400,000 * 400,000
Noriega, Michael 300,000 * 300,000
Smith, Gary 5,000 * 5,000
Man, it is sure interesting how ROBERT LEE MATZIG's AVSG and DENNIS HARRIS' LOCH both followed the SAME STRATEGY at the SAME TIME using many of the SAME TIER TWO PEOPLE.
Tier 2 players gott either free shares and/or deeply discounted shares (think 10 Centers) as the reward/incentive for their work.
Funnier is how Loch-Harris, a very closed TEXASS oriented group of folks with no EVIDENT links to Rodney Boone just happened to find him, the magic link to the BASEBALL MONEY AND NAME, while he was at DIABLO CANYON NUCLEAR POWER PLANT, a WINSTON & STRAWN DC OFFICE CLIENT. Boy, it was sure lucky that one of the fellow TEXANS in DaGang, a guy who played penny stocks "constantly and in a BIG way" - "in a life-changing way" had contacts at DIABLO CANYON so California boy RODNEY BOONE could be "brought aboard" LOCH (which by 30 September 1997 already had the ChemTech chemical ID signaturing revolutionary tech brought "aboard").
The TEXASS GANG also knew how to get PR for their new CEO, on the MAJOR GENERAL MILNOR ROBERTS radio show, on the lawn of the US Capitol in WASHINGTON, DC, and how to get access to ARMY FACILITIES in Yuma and Aberdeen - some places where former ARMY DEMINING ENGINEERS have contacts.
Man, it is no wonder that the LOCH Plan (modeled on the AVSG and others plans - all originated from TEXASS) came together and was executed "perfectly" (according to Hotels00).
Then, when it was time to run out the SOL clock because the Game was TOO successful, a TEXAS NUCLEAR ENGINEER BAPTIST EVZNGELICAL MISSIONARY LAWYER FROM WINSTON & STRAWN just happened (by chance of course) to "run into" DIABLO CANYON ROD, introduce himself as just another investor-at-large from the public, and have Rod and the TEXASS GANG toss this guy the keys to their own criminal and civil liability (and his own!) - yeah, that's real believable.
Naw, I think when the SEC investigation began (thanks to certain baseball players, BTW!), Rod and Mark wanted to just shut it down and run. Butt one of the TEXASS GANG (one with legal training, who knew how to walk a tightrope) knew that strategy wouldn't solve the problem there. Instead, you have to "keep hope alive" to forestall shareholder suits and cooperation with the Feds, so you start a fresh shell (Baker founded CDEx), dump the assets into the shell, and sell the disgruntled investors HOPE with the story that things didn't work out with the 1997 revolutionary tech only because Bad Rod (that day's scapegoat) didn't fund it, butt now that is all better and YES, you will be rich if you only will WAIT until they can shut down LOCH and run the SOL out. Tell them a STORY that your new CEO is a GOOD guy who just walked in off the street and battled control of the revolutionary tech from Rod over golf games by threatening Rod with bad SEC/DOJ things (because he was a senior DC lawyer with SEC connections - or so the story went) unless Rod and Mark (made out to be the Bad guy scapegoats, walk away and let Oldtime TEXASS LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER FROM WINSTON & STRAWN take over the NewScamCo.
Only the NewScamCo was simply a diversion to get a general liability release from the LOCH shareholders via the cooked-up insider SA/CA lawsuit and then close LOCH and to run out the SOL clock. And Rod could be blamed for LOCH's lack of commercial success just like he was used as the Saviour to replace DENNIS HARRIS who was previously balmed for LOCH's lack of commercial success.
Then Jim Griffon, from IPIX (another WINSTON & STRAWN client) was "brought aboard" CDEx to take the heat off MALCOLM PHILIPS, who was temporarily blamed for the lack of commercial success of CDEx, just as Malc did for Rod, and Rod did for RB BAKER AND DENNIS HARRIS.
WHO chose Strickland and Griffon, of IPIX (a WINSTON & STRAWN client), to be "brought aboard" the USS CDEx (rechristened from the USS LOCH)????? WHO MADE THAT CONNECTION TO THOSE GUYS (NON-TEXANS, BTW - LIKE ROD)
I ask again, WHO from the original Loch-Harris (all TEXASS BOYS) KNEW of Rodney Boone from DIABLO CANYON and "brought him aboard" the good ship LOCH to star the Game in the same way and at the same time the Game was being played at AVSG and others of the TEXASS GANG?????
CISCO did it, Missus SANDDOLLAR!!
Who wrote that, crow?
OT..Ive a bit of advice to anyone driving cross country on I 10
Go through Tucson.. (good buffet restaurants there, qoick and good meals) then turn west on I 9 at casa grande.. bypass Phoenix.. turn back north back to I 10 on Arizone 85.. Phoenix is a bitch to drive through.. even worse than Houston or Atlanta...
Yep..theu apparently manufactured all 25 of the original run.
BAXA has sold and taken delivery of only 4...
The other 21 are stored in TWO-SAN AIRY-ZONER..
Crow, you may want to revise the numbers in last paragraph in the previous post.
You're too kind! LOL
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