Loch Harris (Old)

[Crow3]

Posted by: rottenapple
In reply to: Crow3 who wrote msg# 24923 Date:2/29/2008 1:39:30 AM
Post #of 24929

Crow...intialy it started out at 50,000 shares. Somehow, not through my doing, the offer was dropped to 25,000 shares. I don't know the reason behind the drop in the offer.

I'm assuming the middle man who I was dealing with at the time thought he had more authority than he actually did. I can tell you I had no intentions of taking any offer, even if it had been 10 million shares. I only played along to see how far they would take it and to gather information.

There were also conditions to my receiving those shares. First, I had to quit pursuing the lawsuit I was involved with starting and I had to quit posting altogether. When I balked on the posting issue, the conditions changed to: Okay, I could post but the posts couldn't be too, too negative and I couldn't mention a certain attorneys name anymore. Oh, and one other thing, I couldn't bring any of my friends into the deal. Then they would have felt like I was trying to shake them down.

Of course, when it got down close to consummating the deal, I took it public and posted it on RB. I know some people are going to say "where's the proof"? All I can answer that with is: Does anyone actually believe I would post something like this unless it were true and unless I had the proof? Of course not!! I would be opening myself to a huge libelous & slander civil suit.

I've tried to turn this documented information over to the FBI and the SEC. Neither were interested. I even had two people on this board try to help me get it into the SEC's hands and one went so far as to send it to the FBI too. Both had talked with the SEC before and had a decent relationship with the SEC investiigators. At least I know one of them did.

The other person was capnmike who proclaimed he had a direct source with the SEC & FBI. Turns out his source with the SEC & FBI was nothing more than the snitch line email address that anyone can go to on the internet. If there is any doubt, here is a copy of the email he sent to the SEC. & what I responded with. I have blanked out some email addresses and real names. I did so to adhere to IHUB's posting rules. I don't wan't to see this post removed because of any rule breaking.

But, the case went no where and the person who contacted and sent this info to the SEC & FBI later told me, "I guess they weren't interested." The other person never receive a reply from the SEC either.

All I can tell the people reading this post is, "read it", use a little common sense, take it for what it's worth and decide for yourselves. I would be a fool to make something like this up!

----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxx xxxxx - xxxxxxxx
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail] ; [e-mail]
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Loch Harris litigation-related tape recordings of telephone conversations available from Mr. xxxxx xxxxxx


To: xxxxxxxx xxxxx, SEC

From: xxxxxxx xxxxx, Sarasota, FL

Subj: Loch Harris litigation tape recordings available from Mr. xxxxx xxxxxx

Date: December 16, 2005


"cc: SEC Enforcement Division

cc: xxxxx x. xxxxxxx, Supervisory Special Agent, FBI Headquarters, Washington, D.C. ...via the FBI Web-based tip-line at https://tips.fbi.gov/

cc: Mr. xxxxx xxxxxx, email address: [e-mail]


Dear Mr. XXXXX,

Today, December 16, 2005, Mr. xxxxxx published his view that I lied to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. This resulted in my composing a number of emails and ultimately calling Mr. xxxxxx via the number he provided.


Mr. xxxxxx and I hope to meet face-to-face one day, and he shared that he is reluctant to mail or “Fed-Ex” to the authorities his Loch Harris litigation-related telephone conversation tape recordings. However, per our conversation, he did indicate that he is willing to bring this previously undisclosed Loch Harris litigation-evidence to an SEC or FBI field office near his home where he and I would both appear in person.

My options were limited as a named-plaintiff in the Loch Harris class action lawsuit. Combining that with the fact that Mr. xxxxxx choose to “opt out” of the settlement agreement, I did all that I thought I could do by providing the following transcript immediately after receiving the message from Mr. xxxxxx - recorded on my answering machine (somewhere in the August 2004 timeframe):

= = = = = = =

xxxx, this is “xxxxxxxxx” xxxxx xxxxxx …ah…, saw your post on the …ah ah… True CDEX Long board …ah…I see you sent that to xxxxx …ah… I appreciate you doing that and I have MORE information that I would share with you …ah… if you…all you have to do is give me a call. My phone number is 617… nah, take that back

…. (xxx) xxx-xxxx. Um, call me and I’ll share with you what I have, long as your going to turn it all in. Thank you. Bye.

= = = = = = =

Please advise if there is interest in pursuing or obtaining the undisclosed evidence Mr. xxxxxx wishes to provide in person, in which case I will arrange travel to an SEC or FBI field office as agreed.

Thank you for your consideration in this matter.



xxxxxxx xxxxx



Posted by: rottenapple
In reply to: None Date:2/29/2008 2:10:18 AM
Post #of 24929

RE: My previous. Not that I'm paranoid but the tapes & copies of tapes are in three different locations, including a safety deposit box. My house has 2 different sophisticated alarm systems, a mean dog and a DVR video surveillance system. Just though I would mention that.

wmft...is that tinfoilhat big enough for you?