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I trust Brian Weber. I sure don't trust Olaf and his friends. They twist the truth around, they lie. They say the pictures are staged to make it look like BeBevCo is moving product. They know no body can prove them wrong. How about the first batch of Relax5 sold as soon as it's made. How about the all the cans of KOMA unwind that are being shipped. Some one is buying this stuff. I will take Brian's word before I would ever trust any of those who have nothing more in life than to attack Brian Weber.
There are times in my life I have said things that as I look back on I shouldn't have said. I will never back down from supporting our vet's. I know that Brian Weber supports our Vet's. I know he cares. If anyone reads this post and thinks that Brian Weber doesn't support our Vet's you are wrong. Facts are facts.
You can trust anyone you want. But given the fact that I know Brian Weber, I've been to Bebida HQ and I'm the only one to post pictures of Koma actually for sale.. I'm probably more reliable. "IMO" :)
The pain I go through I go with every post I make. It's no big deal. I don't think most of you know what a Vet goes through. I'm 67 years old and I live it still every day of my life. I am the real deal. If this board want's to get down to attacking Vet's. All I can say is go for it. We will stand together. GOD bless the USA and the vet's.
goarmy, I trust you are who you say you are. When I was in Viet Nam I told the guys to trust me. When I first went out in the field and saw the bunker I told the guys we need more sand bags on top of this. Two weeks later we took a hit and we were fine. From then on the guys never went against anything I ask them to do. I trust you.
goarmy, I have been doing some thinking. I can't use the B word anymore but what if we let the attackers just control the BBDA board. In a way it's hard for me when I see a new poster over there come on board and be attacked by them. I am in this to make a lot of money. I know what I am up against. What do you think. Should we just let them control the board over there or should we take them on. When I got out of the Army I was a Spec 4. Show me some leadership.
I can understand why Olaf can say that the picture of a trailer full of KOMA unwind was staged. How can you prove him wrong. With the ARCA car, I saw it. So why shouldn't I believe the picture I saw of the trailer full of KOMA unwind not be true. If you people want to believe what Olaf says is true or you want to believe in what Brian Weber says is true. It's up to you. Facts are facts.
For all of you who say the PRs that BeBevCo puts out are a lie. I watched the ARCA race and I saw the car. If any of you can prove to me that I didn't see what I thought I saw. Bring it on.
Hello guys and gals, they call me Crazy Jerry, my real nickname, I just met your mod, GoArmy, and he invited me to post on your board, and I like it. I'm also a Vet, Viet Nam Air Force flyboy, who never got to fly a plane. I'm sure he may have mentioned PYCT. If not go check it out. Nice to meet you, will check you out more later.
As a 6-year Army vet and combat vet, can you please stop being melodramatic about this?
The only thing disrespectful here is your mindless pumping of companies that you don't even bother to learn about with all the Army stuff on your profile.
I am seeing a chart that appears to be a money maker very soon in the future.
Glad you said this--haven't looked at the chart for a couple of weeks now! On 3 day chart Williams% is looking nice, macd seems to be turning up, momentum and rsi moving up, fast sto moving up....price fluctuation looks like a yo-yo, lol, but if we can hold current pps for a day or so then we could be looking at a little increase for sure! Nice!
Or I could be wrong....I'm a bit colorblind, so sometimes it gets hard to make these charts out, lol! Have a hard time with red and green, but sure know what those up and down arrows mean, haha!
You're right. So let's revisit the company, the product and the stock a year from now to see how far they've come.
Of course people have been saying that for almost three years and the company still can't even stand on its own two feet, the products are still virtually unavailable, the TA is still gagged and the financials are still unaudited, the share count is still going up while the share price goes down and the CEO is still hanging around the racetrack, telling you how much it benefits the company.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Now they have a notorious, convicted penny stock scammer on their side. That should help them sell lots of drinks.
I think they may be turning the tides at BBDA. They did report cash flow and the PPS is not at .0001. I did figure in the back of my mind it would get there. I am going to have to make a large purchase very soon.
I really don't care what the negatives or the positives are! I am seeing a chart that appears to be a money maker very soon in the future.
I will watch it next week and see how it is trending. with a .0013 avg It would behoove me to get it down to .0008.0009 area. Even 3B share's is not that much when we play in the pinkies!
BBDA has been it's own promoter for years. I would Imagine soon, they may actually out source that job and increase share value with a few gap and traps!Or they could do it the non pinkie way with a bit of Transparency! Either way PPS increase is immenent IMO!
Like I said the pos or neg's about this company really do not concern me. If I was buying Ford.. hell yeah they would concern me but, In pinkie land there all stinkie pinkies. This one just appears to be a bit better than say a PYCT or a THRA! both of those has SS in the billions and have ran very nicely in th past and I have made money on those as well.
I am not here to Marry a pinkie! I want to make money and may hold a core of shares after I take my profits. I Probably will always hold a nice core of BBDA stock.
I guess you think if you can get people to not trust Brian and or me you can take the Company down.
I don't want to "take the company down." I want the company to succeed at selling drinks.
People already don't trust BW because of what he's done and/or not done, not because of what I say or do. He's screwed a lot of people over, taken their money and given no shareholder value in return. Why should they trust him? And seriously, why does it matter a whit if people can trust you or me? As I've told you over and over and over again, a fact doesn't change depending on who is pointing at it. Nobody has to trust anyone for them to be true. That's why they are useful, objective pieces of information.
The number of shares at certain points in time is a fact, as is the overall growth of the share structure.
The price of the shares is a fact, as is the epic decline of value from the time present management took over.
The 1000:1 reverse split is a fact.
The ownership of the company's brands by an entity other than the company, but with the same management, is a fact.
There's plenty more, but you've already read them. Just because it's me listing the facts, doesn't change them. Nobody has to trust me in order for the facts to be true.
I make my own conclusions about what these facts indicate and voice my opinion, as do other people. You can argue with my opinion all you want, I'm not asking anyone to 'believe' me or 'trust' me and I honesty hope they don't. Instead, I would like people to view the objective reality of the company and stock formulate their own opinions. I find it really humorous that you supporters get so wound up over me expressing my well-reasoned, clearly articulated, logically sound opinion based on undeniable facts.
Olaf, You attack me day after day. You attack Brian Weber day after day. You say I am a joke. You say Brian is running a SCAM. I guess you think if you can get people to not trust Brian and or me you can take the Company down. The more you attack the more I buy. I feel sorry for those who sell but if they think I am a joke and Brian is running a SCAM I can't blame them. After all they trust you.
I know this is a complete waste of my time,but here goes for the last time tonight!!!!!
OlafKjelldsen Share Saturday, February 18, 2012 12:40:39 AM Re: marc_1958 post# 760 Post # of 762
Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wrong you don't have the faintest idea of what your talking about --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have yet to see you do much of anything but attack people. Do you have anything substantial to post about the company? Really??? I attack people???? Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not too complex at all!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kind of begs the quesiton of why you post responses that demonstrate that you've completely missed the meaning. Have not missed a thing at all!! Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nice to know that you can count!! 50 zillion?? Really?? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It's called being facetious. You're jeering and taunting like an angry child. I guess if you don't have any info or facts and are stuck holding a bag of worthless shares there isn't much else to do. Fact is that the shares I hold are "NOT" worthless!!! They "DO" in "FACT" have a value!!! Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who are you to say "what" exposure makes an impression?? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
An honest person with more than a little background in advertising and marketing.
Actually, it's pretty simple to stage a test that proves my point. I'm going to pick a race that a Bebevco-sponsored vehicle races in this year at random after it's aired. Then I am going to pick a random vehicle in the race and ask you (or anyone else) to name a decal in a location I specify. Since you seem to think that everyone remembers every little insignificant decal on every vehicle, you'll have no trouble remember the one I pick, right? WHAT???? All I see here is that you in "FACT" know nothing about advertising!!! In "FACT" I have two brothers in the advertising business!!! This is how businesses start out with advertising. Not with Superbowl ads!!!! It is a start and I suspect will expand when the time is right!!!! No test needed for you to understand this or is there???? Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So it really doesn't matter but"your going to look"?? Of course this is not equivalent to a Superbowl commercial!!! DUH!!! WOW,alot of dumb people putting advertising on race cars(which no one can see,because they are going too fast)!!! LOL --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Where did I say it doesn't matter? I'm going to watch for it so I can see how much TV time it gets so I can speak with authority on the matter. See, I actually take the time to do research instead of just running my mouth attacking people. When I post something, I have something to back it up. speak with authority??? something to back it up??? LOL The 'superbowl commercial' comparison is just hyperbole. I have been here every year when Bebevco goes racing and the exact same bunch of posts claiming huge exposure from racing sponsorship appear like clockwork. I am answering them before they are posted because I know they are coming. Just like Weber trying to tell everyone how much it's in their best interest, then nothing happens to benefit anyone except him getting his jollies at the race track. Yes there alot of "hyperbole" as there is in your post!!! Another common spin tactic is listing coke, pepsi, coors, bud, red bull, etc as though every sponsor is elevated to that level just by being there. So, I go down the list of sponsors to places like "Fred's Towing" to prove that some greaseball podunk garage who just wants to see their name go around on the car spends the cash for vanity, but they aren't going to be a global megacorporation as a result. The obscure, low-level advertising Bebevco does serves no practical marketing purpose. If you think it does serve a purpose, stop complaining to me and write to your CEO and ask him for clear, specific and verifiable proof of how BBDA's racing expenditure has benefited shareholders. Again,is that based on your experience in the advertising field and "FACT" Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So with your valuable knowledge,how much money did the CEO waste??? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How the heck should I know? Ask him! I have a good idea what it costs to run and/or sponsor a race car. Weber claims to have a lot of connections, too bad they are all has-beens, never-was and losers that nobody cares about. Getting a good deal on a pile of crap just means you have cheap crap. I thought you always based your comments on fact??? You've said he wasted alot of money for this worthless advertising so what was wasted??? Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The company just might get in the winners circle!! Can't win if your not in the race!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll wait until it isn't set up like a scam. "FACTS" please Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You bailed?? Who would have thought!! But Olaf i'm not ready to declare this race over just yet. There is a caution out and this race will resume very soon!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Right. I bought shares in April 2009 based on false pretenses and sold them a couple months later when I figured out the CEO wasn't being completely honest. That's how long it took me and in almost three years, he hasn't done anything to convince me otherwise. If you want to buy shares and hold them thinking the company is going to succeed, go right ahead! I hope you make lots of money. I did and I will!!! Thanks for looking out for me!!! LOL Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess I really should have said "one lap at a time" LOL
I know what they are trying to achieve doesn't happen overnight and i do acknowledge what they've done that can be verified, but I can't say I see progress commensurate with their claims and there is no justification for the level of dilution shareholders have had to endure. IMO. I really appreciate that IMO!!! Just out of curiousity, I noticed you left this out of my post:
Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like the steps it's taken to grow the share count from 5.4 billion to the equivalent of at least 850 billion? Those kind of steps? Or do you mean the steps it has taken to make the shares worth 1/1000 of what they were to begin with? Or the steps taken to hire a convicted penny stock scammer to represent your company? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That was then and this is now!!! Alot of companies have gone through bad times and have made the turn around!!! This company still has the chance to be one of them and that is why "I'M" buying shares!! Is it because you are pretending that's not happening? You keep repeating all this positive stuff that's nothing but fluff and dreams, but you totally dodge the things that I posted which are cold, hard, indisputable facts that point at what a worthless scammy turd this company really is. I'm not afraid to look at the facts surrounding this company. Why are you?
No pretending!! You really keep repeating yourself with not very many recent facts,that are disputable,that this is in fact not a scam,that has products,that my family and friends have tried and say they work and taste great!!! So why are you afraid to admit that it is possible for this company to succeed??? You really should have put IMO on your last paragraph!!
That's not really how I meant it. I understand and don't question what vets have in common, but Dking talking to me about it in response to a post that's about Bebevco is irrelevant.
I understand how he feels about everything because I have read about 5000 posts of him talking about it. But I'm not interested in how he feels. All I see is someone who dodges all the negatives about the company and retreats into this repetitive stuff about how he feels rather than discussing the facts and figures that actually affect his investment.
If all Dking needs to feel good about his investment and trust his CEO is his warm and fuzzy feelings, that's great. If he can ignore all the red flags because he feels good about it, good for him.
But if he's going to go to places where people are having substantial discussion and start ragging on them because what they say is negative, he needs to come back with something positive in like kind or just stay home with his head in the sand.
Wrong you don't have the faintest idea of what your talking about
I have yet to see you do much of anything but attack people. Do you have anything substantial to post about the company?
Not too complex at all!!
Kind of begs the quesiton of why you post responses that demonstrate that you've completely missed the meaning.
Nice to know that you can count!! 50 zillion?? Really??
It's called being facetious. You're jeering and taunting like an angry child. I guess if you don't have any info or facts and are stuck holding a bag of worthless shares there isn't much else to do.
Who are you to say "what" exposure makes an impression??
An honest person with more than a little background in advertising and marketing.
Actually, it's pretty simple to stage a test that proves my point. I'm going to pick a race that a Bebevco-sponsored vehicle races in this year at random after it's aired. Then I am going to pick a random vehicle in the race and ask you (or anyone else) to name a decal in a location I specify. Since you seem to think that everyone remembers every little insignificant decal on every vehicle, you'll have no trouble remember the one I pick, right?
So it really doesn't matter but"your going to look"?? Of course this is not equivalent to a Superbowl commercial!!! DUH!!! WOW,alot of dumb people putting advertising on race cars(which no one can see,because they are going too fast)!!! LOL
Where did I say it doesn't matter? I'm going to watch for it so I can see how much TV time it gets so I can speak with authority on the matter. See, I actually take the time to do research instead of just running my mouth attacking people. When I post something, I have something to back it up.
The 'superbowl commercial' comparison is just hyperbole. I have been here every year when Bebevco goes racing and the exact same bunch of posts claiming huge exposure from racing sponsorship appear like clockwork. I am answering them before they are posted because I know they are coming. Just like Weber trying to tell everyone how much it's in their best interest, then nothing happens to benefit anyone except him getting his jollies at the race track.
Another common spin tactic is listing coke, pepsi, coors, bud, red bull, etc as though every sponsor is elevated to that level just by being there. So, I go down the list of sponsors to places like "Fred's Towing" to prove that some greaseball podunk garage who just wants to see their name go around on the car spends the cash for vanity, but they aren't going to be a global megacorporation as a result. The obscure, low-level advertising Bebevco does serves no practical marketing purpose. If you think it does serve a purpose, stop complaining to me and write to your CEO and ask him for clear, specific and verifiable proof of how BBDA's racing expenditure has benefited shareholders.
So with your valuable knowledge,how much money did the CEO waste???
How the heck should I know? Ask him! I have a good idea what it costs to run and/or sponsor a race car. Weber claims to have a lot of connections, too bad they are all has-beens, never-was and losers that nobody cares about. Getting a good deal on a pile of crap just means you have cheap crap.
The company just might get in the winners circle!! Can't win if your not in the race!!
I'll wait until it isn't set up like a scam.
You bailed?? Who would have thought!! But Olaf i'm not ready to declare this race over just yet. There is a caution out and this race will resume very soon!!
Right. I bought shares in April 2009 based on false pretenses and sold them a couple months later when I figured out the CEO wasn't being completely honest. That's how long it took me and in almost three years, he hasn't done anything to convince me otherwise. If you want to buy shares and hold them thinking the company is going to succeed, go right ahead! I hope you make lots of money.
I guess I really should have said "one lap at a time" LOL
I know what they are trying to achieve doesn't happen overnight and i do acknowledge what they've done that can be verified, but I can't say I see progress commensurate with their claims and there is no justification for the level of dilution shareholders have had to endure. IMO.
Just out of curiousity, I noticed you left this out of my post:
Like the steps it's taken to grow the share count from 5.4 billion to the equivalent of at least 850 billion? Those kind of steps? Or do you mean the steps it has taken to make the shares worth 1/1000 of what they were to begin with? Or the steps taken to hire a convicted penny stock scammer to represent your company?
Is it because you are pretending that's not happening? You keep repeating all this positive stuff that's nothing but fluff and dreams, but you totally dodge the things that I posted which are cold, hard, indisputable facts that point at what a worthless scammy turd this company really is. I'm not afraid to look at the facts surrounding this company. Why are you?
OlafKjelldsen Share Friday, February 17, 2012 11:18:09 PM Re: marc_1958 post# 122275 Post # of 122289
Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You always seem to want it both ways!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And you don't seem to have the faintest idea of what I'm talking about.Wrong you don't have the faintest idea of what your talking about Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then you say that "IF" you happen to spot it that you were "deliberately looking for it!!! LOL --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sorry what I post is too complex for you to grasp. Let me try and explain what I mean.Not too complex at all!!
Every year when Bebevco goes racing, there is the same reaction. Someone with a vested interest, looking really hard to find the logo spots it on TV for half a second and suddenly starts bleating that it's National TV exposure - this is HUGE! Then goes on to quote how NASCAR has 50 zillion fans, blah blah blah. It's a load of crap. Nice to know that you can count!! 50 zillion?? Really?? The only reason that half of second of TV exposure was noticed at all by anyone is because a shareholder was staring at the TV, straining to see it. To anyone who is not a shareholder in the company, a half second of "have to be looking hard on purpose to even see it" TV exposure makes zero impression. It does absolutely nothing to promote the brand. Who are you to say "what" exposure makes an impression?? Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please people,"DO NOT" deliberately look to catch a glimpse of Koma on TV,as that would not be fair!!! Again, LOL
Please "DO NOT" be on the edge of your seat as that also would be an unfair advantage. And "NO" squinting!!
You can look for it, I know I will, but I am not going to come back in here and start acting like that meaningless glimpse in a sea of flashy advertising is somehow equivalent to a Superbowl commercial. It's not. As a shareholder, you notice it. As a non-shareholder, you won't notice or care about it any more than you care about a same-sized decal on another car for Fred's Towing Company.So it really doesn't matter but"your going to look"?? Of course this is not equivalent to a Superbowl commercial!!! DUH!!! WOW,alot of dumb people putting advertising on race cars(which no one can see,because they are going too fast)!!! LOL If you're satisfied with the CEO wasting money to go racing so shareholders can spot the decal for half a second while he dilutes your shares to pay for product to sell, then enjoy your increased shareholder value. So with your valuable knowledge,how much money did the CEO waste???Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Things look like they are going in the right direction with BBDA. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup. They are going in circles, never really getting anywhere. The company just might get in the winners circle!! Can't win if your not in the race!! Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As a shareholder with many shares I for one am willing to give our CEO more time to show us how he is going to grow this company!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As someone who was smart enough to bail out a few months after I was conned into believing in what the CEO said and buying shares, I am willing to declare this is a dilution scam. Would you like to compare facts and evidence? You bailed?? Who would have thought!! But Olaf i'm not ready to declare this race over just yet. There is a caution out and this race will resume very soon!! Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Again,one step at a time!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess I really should have said "one lap at a time" LOL
We care about that stuff! Do You know what it's like to squeeze one off at some one? When your whole life, youve been tought, it's wrong! Never point a weapon at another!
Then suddenly you have to! The first time i did it.......It's a very very bad feeling!!!
So, it does matter here! To us! I know what DK is trying to say to you. But you can't get it ever!
Who cares about any of that stuff? Why don't you talk about what I posted? Because you know I'm right, you have no answers and you're afraid of the truth, that's why.
Olaf, I can't use the B word anymore. If I do it could stop this board. goarmy has been warned. I will do whatever I have to do to protect him. I don't know him but if he says he is a Vet you can take this to the bank I will support him any way I can. You made a joke about a Vet. At least I hope it was a joke. You have a lot of guts to do what you do. I don't think you understand what it's like to have your father and mother take you to the airport and thinking they would never see you again. It was the only time in my life I saw my father cry.
Has this Company came a long way from then to now? You bet it has.
Let's examine how far the company "has came" in that time. There are about 100X more shares and they are worth 1/1000th as much. The company has also maintained their impressive ability to issue tons of meaningless, forward looking PRs, to not tell anyone where they can buy the products, issue unaudited financials that don't clarify the relationship among management's multiple interwoven public and private companies and continued the fine tradition of wasteful race-related marketing that does nothing to build the brand, but allows the CEO to go hang around the race track on someone else's dime.
They failed, however, at keeping pictures of legendary penny stock scammer Jared Hochstedler pushing their products out of the public eye. Oops! At least they deliberately omitted those pictures on their own website.
I am sure but I could be wrong that no one on this board has more money invested in BBDA that I do. When Brian came to visit me at my home he came will prepared. This was back in June of 2010. I told him then I was looking out 2 or 3 years. Has this Company came a long way from then to now? You bet it has. I am proud to know Mr. Weber. He has shown me great leadership. Some say he is a crook and a convected felon and running a SCAM. I say he is a great man who's heart and soul is into making BeBevCo a great Company.
ToldYaSo, Not only was that one the best golf shots I ever played in my life but I also think my buy of BBDA at .0005 in Dec. was one of my best calls in my life. Time will tell. If you come to Florida maybe we could get together and play around of golf. I am not the Country Club kind of golfer. I am golfing in Florida in the winter for around $20. I have tee times for Tuesdays and Thursdays. You are more than welcome to play with us if you want.
Fact is it is heading north soon. the company should be capitolized and heading north from here bud! Sales are up! SS has not increased this month. Fins are good for a new co. I am happy!
Why can't your fingers do what you mind tell's them to do. On my last post I know my mind said how and my fingers said who. I guess I am just going to have to go back and read everything I post from now on. It's the same thing with golf. My mind tells my body to hit the ball down the middle and it doesn't always work that way. I did make a great shot yesterday. I was around 10 feet off the green and the hole was on the back of the green. I thought, why not take my putter and just take a chance. I played around a 15 ft break and the ball went in the hole. What were the odds. When I bought shares of BBDA back in Dec at .0005. What were the odds.
goarmy, I did a post on the BBDA board that it was a fact that from Jan 1st unill now that BBDA was up 33.33% I bought shares in Dec at .0005 and I am happy with that kind of return. I don't know maybe some people don't know who to invest. Good to see you posting there again. From now on I am going to try to post facts and let the others say what they want. Facts will win out in the long run.
There's no doubt in my mind that this company has staged pictures in the past to mislead people.
Interesting statement, to know the intent in another persons mind without a doubt.
In my mind, the only ways to know something without a doubt would be, a) corroboration by someone trustworthy that is/was privy to a discussion held relative to the topic (the intent and plan to mislead/deceive), b) to actually be involved in the planning of said misleading/deceptive actions. Of course, a third way would be a conviction in a trial of law, but obviously we do not have that to rely on here.
Which one applies to you? To paraphrase your battle cry: Proof of that intent, please.
It appears you are making an accusation of fraud here--a bold move on your part. A legal definition of fraud would be: "Fraud is commonly understood as dishonesty calculated for advantage." (Quote from The Free Dictionary by Farlex, however research of various sources confirms.)
Proving intent in fraud is quite difficult--I believe you are an intelligent person, so I am sure you know this, and am therefore looking forward to seeing your proof.
glty, and all posters here!
This will be my last post here regarding this. **************************************************************** The above statements represent my opinions only. Almost everyone has opinions about things, and these are mine about this.
There's no doubt in my mind that this company has staged pictures in the past to mislead people. I don't know if the truckload picture is staged, but it's a possibility.
Olaf, Are you saying now that you did not say this. All people have to do is read your post. I am not attacking you in any way. Let the people read the post and judge for themselves.
There have been plenty of clearly and obviously staged pictures posted over the years to give the illusion the products were in stores. I'll dig some up later. Interestingly enough, the address of the store is never provided with those pictures. God forbid someone check up on what the company claims: that makes Weber very angry. Because it makes perfect sense for a company that's trying to sell product to deliberately not tell people where it's for sale, right?
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