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I want to tell this board I am sorry for the way I have acted. I will try to do better. Goarmy had a good idea. Another poster came over here and turned it into his board. Now goarmy is banned because of me. Goarmy I hope you can forgive me for acting the way I did. I would like to ask this board. Should I ask to me a Mod?
You can talk about anything you want. You can talk about golf, racing other stocks. Just like yesterday I didn't have a par on the back nine until I got to 16 and I got a par on it, got to 17 got a par on it and then I birdied 18. Sure is a crazy game. How's the weather where you are?
You just keep doing what you are doing. You are doing a fine job. I am sure you have a lot of people who follow you.
I have no idea if anyone 'follows' me, nor do I care if they do. I'm not trying to lead people anywhere. But thanks for your permission, LOL!
I admit I follow you.
Of course you do. It makes it easier for you to report what I say to the CEO of Bebevco, as you've stated.
What I like about you is how you like to make things up with no facts at all.
What I like about you is that you back down from every challenge to cite specifics, which clearly demonstrates your accusations are complete BS. Did Steve Carnes teach you that when you were over his house in between calls with his S8 buddy, Ed Meirs?
If people want to believe you that's fine with me. I know better.
I don't care if people believe/support/follow me or not. It's not about me and I'm not asking anyone to believe/support/follow anything I say. For instance, I compiled a list of Bebevco PRs that are full of misleading statements, some of them outright lies. Nobody has to believe me since I didn't issue the PRs. They have to decide whether or not to believe the people who issued the PRs.
I have always taken Mr. Weber for his word and will take him for his word in the future.
In that recent pathetic, embarrassing webcast that clearly shows what a joke Bebevco is, Weber plainly tells people he's going to continue to dilute the crap out of the share structure and if he doesn't make enough money doing that, he'll ignore his stated projections and just keep doing it.
Olaf, You just keep doing what you are doing. You are doing a fine job. I am sure you have a lot of people who follow you. I admit I follow you. What I like about you is how you like to make things up with no facts at all. If people want to believe you that's fine with me. I know better. I have always taken Mr. Weber for his word and will take him for his word in the future.
Bring up any stocks you want. This is not a BBDA board. Tell your friends about it. Let them bring up ideas. I am kind of hooked on BBDA because I trust Brian Weber. If you trust a CEO bring him up. I would like to here from you.
You sure are good at making things up. That's all you do.
Like what? Tell me what I've made up and I'll direct you to exactly where I came up with it. If it's not a hard fact, I'll explain the logic associated and give you a chance to disqualify it.
You never post facts.
This is what I'm laughing at. I post facts all the time. You just pretend they don't exist as though nobody else can see them, either. And now that I pointed out the fact that you said you were over Steve Carnes house and he introduced you to Brian Weber, you are going to pretend that's not a fact. It doesn't fit with other things you've said in the past, but I bet you will never address that.
When someone ask you to post facts you say you are watching a football game or something. For them to do their own DD.
Huh? I don't tell people I'm doing something else. More often than not I post the DD, but I'm getting sick of typing the same stuff out over and over for everyone who comes along. The posts are still there and the info hasn't changed, they can look them up in my posting history if they are interested in the DD.
What you have to understand is that they have already done their DD and are asking you for your facts.
The past posts contain facts and sound logical deductions. The present day numerical realities are facts. At some point it becomes quite obvious that the people asking for the facts are just trying anything to 'disqualify' the negative stuff any way they can. As if if there isn't some clear, triple notarized statement of fact that directly confirms what's said, then it must not be true. While at the same time, they will offer absolutely nothing to support their viewpoints beyond accepting PR or company statements at face value.
I bring up a story about a friend of mine who got a chance to play a GREM guitar and you make a big deal out of it. You say I said things that I never said. You just made them up.
Give me a specific example of me claiming you said something you never said. Specific.
I think most everyone is catching on to you.
Actually, most everyone is catching onto Bebevco's act and identifying the supporting cast. The turning point was when it became obvious that Jared Hochstedler is still associated with Brian Weber and Bebevco. I've outlined exactly why that is the case and despite several people taking a run at trying to explain it away, none of the explanations hold water. As long as Bebevco is controlling the info, they can sustain the illusion. As soon as it's out of their control, something like JH showing up representing the company appears.
Have you ever noticed how incredibly angry Weber gets when people check up with third parties on what he claims? There's a reason for that.
GREM was a great guitar. It was made out of the best wood. Most were hand made. They had a nice building. The problem was they couldn't get to were they could mass produce them. I went up to Indiana a few times and got to know the people who worked there. GREM didn't have any money to pay them so they were paid in shares of stock. So what came up on the boards. It's a share selling SCAM. At one time someone even went as far as to hack the website and all of a sudden it was a porn site. I have warned Brian about these things and told him to be on the watch for anyone hacking the BeBevCo site. I learned just how low some people will go. Brian has warned them, yet it seems like they won't back off. When I first invested in BBDA I told Brian I would watch his back.
You sure are good at making things up. That's all you do. You never post facts. When someone ask you to post facts you say you are watching a football game or something. For them to do their own DD. What you have to understand is that they have already done their DD and are asking you for your facts. I bring up a story about a friend of mine who got a chance to play a GREM guitar and you make a big deal out of it. You say I said things that I never said. You just made them up. I think most everyone is catching on to you.
All I was doing was telling a story about a friend of mine. GREM was a great guitar. At one time I owned 4 of them.
GREM was a scam. It's juts a shell corporation that had been hnaded back and forth between a bunch of penny stock scammers. It was even based in Ft. Wayne, IN! If one googles around a bit it's easy to find planted stories pushing the stock. Here's one:
Go about halfway down. Someone recommends a GREM guitar and the conversation immediately turns to suspicion of the website because it offered tons of info about investing in the company but not a whole lot about the guitars. The person who brought GREM up even finishes out their posting by trying to convince a bunch of guitarists on a guitar website that the company is a good investment.
I knew about Steve Carnes. I trusted him. I talked to him on the phone a few times. Yes I lost money by trusting him. I would have never heard of Brian Weber if it wouldn't have been for following Carnes.
According to your post on the GREM board you were over his house when Ed Meirs called. So, that was a lie, or what? Did Carnes introduce you to BW at his house where you posted you were?
I thought Brian Weber bought the BBDA shell from Rodrigo Makarios, not Steve Carnes?
I sent Brian a E mail after he bought BBDA and ask him about Carnes. He told me that Carnes was out of the picture and he owned the Company.
So Carnes introduced you to Brian Weber and you subsequently emailed Brian Weber to ask him about Carnes? Was this before or after Brian Weber came to your house? I'm still trying to understand why you post so much about being excited that a CEO came to your house when you had been hanging out with CEOs anyway - and so many of them end up in prison for securities issues.
He came close to giving up back in 2010. He said he did the R/S to save the Company. I believed him.
It would have been thoughtful of him to let people know, but IMO he planned the R/S along with Steve and Jared's help. They ran the share structure up through the roof pushed by their huge stack of BS pumping PRs including the 1.4 Billion shares where the cash went straight into Jared's pocket for a debt related to Potencia. I don't doubt Weber knew about all the shares Carnes held, as well. He's starting to lose focus on the stories he's told and the numbers aren't adding up.
There is a difference between a stock promoter who clams to be a CEO and a person who buys a shell with his goal to make it a great Company. Brian Weber is the real deal.
There's at least one thing they have in common: you.
I'd really like to thank the nice people at Smugmug for being thoughtful enough to provide hard evidence out of Bebevco's control that Jared Hochstedler is still hanging around Bebevco. Now with this great admission by DKing that he hung out with Steve Carnes, who introduced him to BW, then Brian Weber over his house, reports what's posted here to Weber, things are really starting to shape up! It's a nice day to compose another email to the SEC and include all this great new info, plus all the other even better stuff I have that I haven't posted yet. They are busy rattling some penny stock cages including beverage companies. I hope they find this info useful.
jpate, What do you think of AOD? It's kind of like BBDA as far as people bringing up the past all the time. I own a few shares of it. As a matter of fact I have been using my div I get from AOD each month to buy more shares of BBDA. The cool thing is back in 2010 I sold some shares of BBDA to buy shares of AOD. Can you believe how stupid I am. My two biggest investments are in couple of stocks that people are bashing.
ToldYaSo, It was a fun part of my life. I got to met some very good guitar players. Every one of them who played a GREM all ask me. Can I keep it. The problem was the price. GREM made a top of the line guitar. I loved to let someone who was playing a cheap guitar walk up to them and say. Would you like to play my GREM. To see the smile on their face when they were playing it made me happy. One guy told me the guitar is so good it almost plays itself. The night life took a lot out of me but it was a lot of fun. Now here I am going up to people and ask them if they would like to try a KOMA unwind. Every one who tries one likes it. I remember the first time I gave one to my daughter. She took a drink and she had that smile on her face. Dad this stuff is real good. So I know it's a great product.
All I was doing was telling a story about a friend of mine. GREM was a great guitar. At one time I owned 4 of them. They are all still being played. Has any of you heard of Sean Chambers? He told me it was a great guitar. Yes the Company is out of business. I said that in my story. I lost a little money and so did some of my friends but I learned so much about what to look for in a investment. I knew about Steve Carnes. I trusted him. I talked to him on the phone a few times. Yes I lost money by trusting him. I would have never heard of Brian Weber if it wouldn't have been for following Carnes. I sent Brian a E mail after he bought BBDA and ask him about Carnes. He told me that Carnes was out of the picture and he owned the Company. Carnes was a stock promoter. Weber bought the Company to turn it into something great and that is what he is doing. I trust Brian Weber. He came close to giving up back in 2010. He said he did the R/S to save the Company. I believed him. There is a difference between a stock promoter who clams to be a CEO and a person who buys a shell with his goal to make it a great Company. Brian Weber is the real deal.
You can see the word GREM on the end of the guitar in big letters. Looks like a sweet axe! This article was done in 2006, and the company was still in business then, so it must have closed pretty recently.
If you are interested in the GREM USA company and their fine instruments, perhaps you'd be interested in this:
You can see the word GREM on the end of the guitar in big letters. Looks like a sweet axe! This article was done in 2006, and the company was still in business then, so it must have closed pretty recently.
Sounds good, i am originally from Panama City, not like south Florida. You need to send admin a message to make you mod! We can discuss golf and other interest.
Nice to see you. This board was started by goarmy. It's not just about BBDA. We can talk about other stocks. We can talk about the weather. I want to keep it going for him. I like to talk about golf. I am very lucky. I live in Florida so I get to golf are year long. Now that spring is coming there may be others who will get to play. Just remember Kan U...Unwind? U Kan here!
Because the whole point of this board was a juvenile reaction by Goarmy's to his inability to take over the the BBDA board with his post and PM flooding. A few of the other bagholders, errr - people who like to be positive and can't handle honest people using reality to shoot holes in their poorly reasoned and ill-informed optimism, or are just plain delusional, drifted over here, too. Looks like Goarmy also managed to drag in a few of the 90 something followers he accumulated in the couple months he was a member and posting 1-200 times a day.
Once Goarmy got canned for a few years, those other people quickly realized all they were going to see here is you and I arguing. Since they have heard what both of us have to say a million times over, there isn't much entertainment value in it for them and they went away. I'm more or less out of here because I'm sick of your stupid, repetitive baiting tactics. So you can have this board all to yourself!
Don't let Olaf take this board over. Don't let him take this board out.
I couldn't care less about this board one way or the other.
Dking, why don't you start a board specifically to support Brian Weber? You can be the only mod and you can delete all the posts that make BW look bad. Then you can tweet posts from there for BW and Tommy to retweet and Brian Weber can send people there for "the truth" about BBDA, unencumbered by facts or history. It'll be perfect! That way, all the people who want to have a little circle jerk about what a great company Bebevco is and what an awesome future it has can hang out at your board and pat each other on the back about how incredibly smart and clever they are and how Brian Weber's bowel movements smell like bakery fresh cinnamon rolls. You can all get rich together buying up millions and millions of BBDA shares!
Then you can write to iHub admin and ask them to make that the official BBDA board, instead. You can leave all those doom and gloom sourpusses and "Nay sayers" over on the other board in the dust. Brian Weber would be so proud of you! Maybe he could make you a Special Internet Ambassador or something. Maybe he'll let you fluff Tom Allinder's pillow when he has a sleepover at the Bebevco galactic headquarters. You could be somebody!
I Hub may have took you out. They say it's because you didn't play by the rules. I will do everything I can to keep this board going. I don't understand why it's just me and Olaf. Don't let Olaf take this board over. Don't let him take this board out. I support Brian Weber and so should you. Support me to keep this board alive. Brian Weber is a great CEO. Trust him.
A friend of mine is one of the greatest guitar players I have ever heard. When I first found out about him. Another friend of mine told me you have to here this guy play. At that time I owned a great guitar. A GREM. After hearing this guy play I took my GREM out of the case. During the break I walked up to him and asked him if he would like to play my guitar. He told me it was the best guitar he had ever played. It was a great product but the Company didn't know who to market it. The Company went out of business. Then I find a guy named Brian Weber. Can he market the product. I have tried KOMA unwind, KOMA unwind shots and Relax5. They are a great product. I have gave some to my family and friends and they all tell me it's great. It get's down to this. Will people buy it. Have you tried it.
I am finding out as you get older you just can't do things as well as you did in the past. I can't hit my drives as far as I used to so I am just trying to hit them down the middle. I play with guys who out drive me by 20 yards but at the same time they ask me how do you hit it down the middle as much as you do. I tell them that's all I am trying to do. That's kind of like the way I have been investing in BBDA. I just by a few shares each month. I am not trying to buy low and sell high. Brian has said he is looking for investors who can look out for a year or so. It's just like if I can keep my drives out of the woods over 18 holes it can make a difference of me shooting a 81 vs. a 85. So I like to look at the big picture. On the first tee I am thinking 18 holes. With BBDA I am looking out for a year.
Right. You report to Brian Weber. He said in the CC that he doesn't read the message boards - so he relies on you do it for him. If he asked you to stop, you'd stop. You report to him. You obviously worship the guy, so why try to hide it?
Olaf, Don't worry about it. All I do is take your post and put them on my Twitter. It's only the people who follow me will read them. Brian Weber is one of them. If it's no big deal to you then it's no big deal to me.
Went golfing today and I couldn't make a putt. If I would play for a break it wouldn't break. If I would play for a straight putt it would break. And to think I moved to Florida so I could play golf all year long. Golf is hard life is easy.
it seems to me that almost every post I address to you get's deleted.
Maybe you should stop addressing posts to me. Posts on stock-specific boards are supposed to be about the stock, not the people who post on them. Did you not understand that the last 50 times it was explained to you? On non-stock specific boards, nobody wants to entertain your bizarre obsession with me and read you trying to bait me by asking the same questions over and over after you already have the answers.
I don't like to waist my time.
Then spend some time learning to spell.
It seems to me that you have friends in high places.
Nope. I'm just able to follow rules.
If all I am allowed to say is I defend Brian Weber then that is what I will do. I won't bring you up anymore.
Works for me. Have fun defending someone people have lots of good reasons not to trust. Don't be alarmed when you're met with derision.
I will keep following you and reporting what you say to Brian Weber but that's as far as I will go.
Olaf, I follow you on a few boards and it seems to me that almost every post I address to you get's deleted. I don't like to waist my time. It seems to me that you have friends in high places. I don't. You are so much better than me at this. If all I am allowed to say is I defend Brian Weber then that is what I will do. I won't bring you up anymore. You do your thing and I'll do mine. I will keep following you and reporting what you say to Brian Weber but that's as far as I will go. You win.
I don't know if there is such a place. But if there is I will put in my vote for Brian Weber to be CEO of the year for 2011. What a great job he has done.
Went golfing Thursday and we played best ball. I made a 35 ft. putt a 20 ft. putt and 2 putts under 10 ft. We didn't win but I knew I gave it my best shot. That's how I feel about BBDA. All I can do is give it my best shot. I know I am outnumbered. At least I have a chance to say what I think. I think Brian Weber is the real deal.
I think we both agree that it's a real company with a real location, real products, marketing and sales. I'd just like to see audited books, a TA that isn't gagged and stays that way, a stop to the dilution, a full list of verifiable locations that sell the product, etc. They also need to stop the forward looking PRs. If they did this stuff, my guess is that they'd have all the investors they'd need and wouldn't have to pay people to prop up the company's image and try to make the stock look attractive.
Brian Weber is a great CEO and a great man. This is the truth. I am 67 years old and I live in Florida. I came down here so I could golf all year long. I have met some great people and have made some good friends. Most of them are rich and just come down here for the winter. At times in the winter we have 12 or so players. In the summer we are lucky to have 4. I have learned how to like rich people. They have leaned how to like me. The one thing about golf is you can be rich or you can be poor. It's can you play the game. When those guys get to know me and that I am living on $1,800 a month it seems like they buy the beer on me. Some times if I can buy a pitcher before they get there I tell them It's not a big deal. I just say to them. Have you ever herd of KOMA unwind? I know my day will come. One of these days instead of driving up in my 2003 Chevy van and them feeling sorry for me I can say. I can drive up in my new Van and say how much I want to thank Brian Weber and his dream. So what if it doesn't happen. I gave it my best shot. GOD bless America and the American dream.
Olaf, I have learned how to play the game. I Hub has told me that as long as all I do is support BeBevCo and or Brian Weber and not say anything bad about another poster or attack another poster I should be OK as far as being banned. So I can say BeBevCo is a great Company and Brian Weber is one of the best CEOs of all time. He is also a great person.
Olaf, I read the story you put up on that other board. That was nice of you to put the story out there. It shows how hard Brian has worked and how much of his life he has put into BeBevCo. After reading it I believe in him more than ever. Good job, Thank you
And another thing. If you are going to follow me around and challenge everything I say and have logical deductions and evidence for, it's time to stop talking in circles and avoiding all the questions. You've been repeating nothing but that meaningless rant about trusting Weber for years. When asked about all the things that make him completely untrustworthy, you completely dodge the questions and just repeat that you trust him. When pressed on that, you repeat into some junk about being a Vietnam Veteran - anything to avoid talking about all the screamingly obvious evidence that Bebevco is a dilution scam. If someone picks on the fact that you're talking about being a vet instead of what you were asked about, you turn it into a rant about people attacking vets. Anything to avoid talking about the realities of company. And if it's not that, then you talk about living in Florida and playing golf all year or working for GM or some other irrelevant crap. Is your job just to obfuscate the issue by constantly bringing up meaningless nonsense when people want to talk about the reality of the company? Is it your job to ask the same questions over and over and then ignore the answers?
Why don't you just put me on ignore if what I say bothers you? You aren't accomplishing anything except embarrassing yourself by following me around repeating what Weber and Allinder tell you to say - and it's obvious. Don't try and fool yourself. You are always emailing them with what you read on the boards and come back with what Weber says and parroting that you trust him. Nobody else trusts or believes him and with plenty of good, proven reason. It's nice that you trust him, but that just puts you in bed with what pretty much everyone else on the planet can obviously see is a dilution scam. You have ZERO information to refute that other than the people who are running it telling you it's not a scam. Legit companies with great CEOs don't need to talk people into buying their stock and don't need to send their lackeys to message boards to defend them.
When Brian Weber does something to earn people's trust, they'll trust him. Right now he's nothing more than a penny stock CEO with a long, proven history of dealing with convicted penny stock crooks dating up to right now when he had his crooked, convicted scammer friend Jared Hochstedler standing around his display table at the Superbowl party.
Don't come back with what Weber says. I don't care. Prisons are full of people who will tell you they didn't do what they did. It doesn't mean squat and trusting them is either sheer idiocy or blatant dishonesty.
Olaf, I have no idea of what you are talking about. Brian Weber is the CEO and he is in charge. He has worked his whole life to get to where he is. I support him 100%.
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