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April newsletter out ! Thanks Scott and thanks Mike , another great issue . New nuggets and some homework articles to read . All good stuff and essential to " knowing what you own ".
Donkschmonk, Great suggestion! I totally agree. Posting in a private forum without all the nonsense would be far more enjoyable. And being a fellow traveller in that private forum I think you are referring to, I can also attest that it works very well!
This is a little confusing. Are you shutting down the HTFBS Ihub board, or are you just not posting here anymore? When will you set up the alternative?
I'm sure glad to be a HTFBS subscriber and my bottom line is sure looking better these days. Thanks Scott & Team for offering this service. Looking forward to the future with high anticipation.
Fully agree, good proposal!
Van, please kindly also consider as already discussed with JB379 and Struftepete privately to please shift the ihub board base for each pick to Yahoo Private Groups, where DD can not only be stored in a manner much more efficiently and organised, BUT ALSO where boards (messages and members) can actually be actively moderated, and so kept free from obvious scammers who try to invalidate the usefulness of a board, a strategy well known to us all not only from ihub, but also, for example, from the public Yahoo boards.
Most here do have an active yahoo account or yahoo finance login anyway and the system has greatly proven itself for many other stocks. Moreover, since HTFBS seems to be anyway on the way of moving away from ihub (respected decision) PLEASE do consider opening private yahoo boards. Van, I am very happy to give you a concrete example privately of a very well working stock board, if it might aide your analysis of the benefits. Also, speaking for Sphere, as mere example, I would be very happy to be one of the co- moderators of such a moderated Private Board, since as a shareholder I want the knowledgable audience of our stocks to efficiently grow!
As mentioned to JB, I believe that both Spiffy and Ciggy have immense potential as their audience and knowledgable investor base grows efficiently. In order to achieve that we NEED a forum, where the public can, when they become interested, efficiently review DD documents others have collected and shareholders can exchange views and findings. A Yahoo! Private Group would be ideal for that!
We can then simply on public Yahoo board or ihub, post frequent messages to check out our new Y! boards for further DD and open intelligent discussion.
We MUST NOT be complacent or surrender to the shorts and their tactics but move to a playing field where WE set the rules, and do not allow either proprietary research for subscribers only to be distributed, or scamming of a board to take place! Thank you.
Bitte sehr,
Wir verstehen und respektieren Ihre Entscheidung!
In the last couple of weeks it has been pretty obvious that IHUB's rules are applied in a very erratic way, damaging the neutrality of the SPIHF and XXII MBs.
It's incredibly hypocrite that posts from bashers and scammers with a clear agenda are allowed for as long as they use a refined and polite way to package lies and deceit while posts from genuine investors have been deleted in bulk by IHUB.
Anyway, this will also pass...know what you own!
Can't wait!! Thanks Van!
look forward to the new chapter .
Yes, good idea, you have my full support as a subscriber! Dankeschön ! Good work van !
Fantastic idea. Agree 100%
It was fun while it lasted...
The HTFBSN crew wants to take this opportunity to communicate with everyone concerning the closure of this forum for posters. Of course, this would include our newsletter subscribers and all the other posters who have helped this site grow.
This site was originally created to help educate nano cap investors and market our service, because it was a rather unique way of communicating. With that being said, the HTFBSN service is BIG enough now, and our website is a much more effective way of communicating with each other. We listened and continue to listen to our subscribers in improving the member site’s functionality and making it much more user friendly.
Based on the feedback we’ve gotten, the vast majority of our subscribers agree.
Consequently, there are BIG changes coming to our member site and new ideas coming, and we want to keep them private to our subscribers only.
Because of this fact, it is not fair for some sponges (non-subscribers) who invested our ideas to continue to benefit. In addition, when some of these very same sponges who don’t have access to our newsletter and site on a timely basis begin to cause problems… well that’s another matter altogether.
It’s not HTFBSN’s fault that they never got (or get) the full story, although reading their posts, one would sure think it was. Think of it this way; these sponges are like going to theatre and watching the movie on the Big screen WITHOUT the sound… they just don’t get the BIG picture!
Here’s the bottom line; when two of our highlighted companies go up over 600% in a year, invariably some people will still find faults… especially some of these sponges.
We have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you can find BIG STOCKS and have BIG returns without being in a promotional campaign.
In conclusion, between this board and personal emails, we tried to communicate with both subscribers and interested investors. That now changes!
Going forward, we will only communicate with subscribers.
We had a ball doing this, but there comes a time when it’s time to make changes and move on.
Danke schon
Thanks for the kind words
Van is the straw that stirs the drink... I couldn't ask for a better partner to work with, and Nuttys just the cats meow!
Also agree with some of the sentiment here...HTFBS FORUM on HTFBS site, so it can be restricted to subs!....have my vote...
Takes us away from "disinformation specialist" and permits us to have true discourse...Even have 2 Big stock and newbie forums and DROP HTBFS FORUM on iHUB!...duplicate iHUB on HTFBS for Subs Only...
VAN may be off subject .......but when is the April issue HTFBSN coming out?
I usually don't post here, but reading your message I wholeheartedly second it!!!
<... So anyhow, just wanted to say thanks to all of you and especially Van....>
Van is the man ! But I also hope we all realize how much of a big part WVUMOUNTAINEER78 plays in getting the best newsletter in the business.
Thanks for the kind words
and glad to see you having some success!
Fellow HTFBS members and readers,
I just wanted to chime in and say hello. I've been a subscriber to the newsletter since last year and it really kick started my investing. I put all my eggs in the XXII basket back in September and made out like a bandit, selling it all above $6/share; still looking to get back in as I think now's a great time to do so.
I've since been playing around in PennyLand and things have been going pretty good, I must say. Lots of great plays out there but I always look back to Van's choices as where I got my start from.
Always looking forward to the next pick (I think I might even know what it is, hmm...) and the great group you've got here has been very helpful indeed. So anyhow, just wanted to say thanks to all of you and especially Van.
Life's been good.
Best of luck to you all!
bought a few more spiffy at the close to make it a nice round number .
LOL. both now, you have to read fast around here :)
LMAO... which one?? That's it for me for one day. Have some gardening and yard work this afternoon. Time to shut down. Have a great day 'tim' and 'sons4'. Don't let the B/S bother you. We know what we have in XXII and SPIHF and they will only get much more appealing as time moves on.
No they deleted it to fast for me to read it, but I know it never use to be this bad. To bad Van could add a forum to his site for subs to chat about our 2 BIG STOCKS but not sure if that would be possible and too expensive.
It sure would be nice to have a HTFBS forum for members only! It's getting real bad when the BS sticks and the rebuttals get deleted.
I agree with Tim it's hard to walk away because there are so many good people here!
Libel : the act of publishing a false statement that causes people to have a bad opinion of someone
Pointing out the obvious risks with any penny stock doesnt take much intelligence or creativity. In fact every company is required to note the risks in their financial filings, that is if you can read.
What isn't legal is making false statements about a publicly traded CEO. There is a Big difference between an stating an opinion and a fact.
When you state a fact about a publicly traded CEO without proof, or in error, there are consequences.
We notified Ihub of this post but they chose not to remove it.
Best part has been having the privilege of meeting great people like you and many others. The fools stand out but in the background is a lot of great people.
Great point Tim, I need a slap in the face for continuing wasting my time on these boards, LOL
sons , TTommy , I don't know why they defend someone who outright lies but we know that no one is going to stop this train. We are in a life changing situation and if Ihub ceased to exist right this second nothing would change . All we have to do is ............nothing.
Tim when you get banned from one of these boards something is definitely wrong with ihub! Every other post of mine gets the boot :)
'Tim' believe me I know how it feels as you well know! There happens to be one individual that is a mod. on all three that imo is responsible. Too bad the forum has lost someone who has their best interests first and wanted to have a fair, honest, and level playing field. There are other agendas at work on the forums as I see it. Nothing to worry about for we know where the bear sheets in the buckwheat now don't we? Lol... Such is the way of the world today.
XXII - is there yet a consensus as to the cause of the volatile trading in this stock? Seen many theories that may or may not make sense....
ttommy , I can't answer your post on the SPIHF board because I have been kicked off as moderator and banned from the board for objecting to lies told about sphere and HTFBS. The Nadella news is great and if I remember right Microsoft had a relationship with V3 so I would think they would know who sphere 3d is.
Yes that is a good quote!
I like that quote !
Here is the quote I live by. "The danger in life is not that we aim too high & miss. The problem is we aim too low & hit the mark"
Michelangelo Buonarroti
I aim high!!
Breewski
well said
XXII finished Red today!! It was up 23 %
Indulge me Van by giving you my take.
If one has never failed than one has never really tried!
The gut that's puking at the same time, LOL!
I agree Van, it seems to me, people are impatient and want the quick buck. They are happy when something goes good, but get upset when something goes wrong.
Patience is key, especially if it is a solid stock. I like the saying," Trust your gut and no one else." It has helped me out.
Please continue to think BIG van. 99% of the people out here appreciate your time spent educating us!!!
My 2 cents...
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people....Eleanor Roosevelt
It's easy, and there's no risk, to criticize others for their ventures (both successful and failures). Typically people that HAVE NEVER taken risks in life do this.
Posting nasty messages anonymously, and actually rooting for others to fail or lose money, says a lot about a person's character.
It's a sad commentary when you have to knock others down in order to feel better about yourself.
Character comes from (and is shown by) actually getting in the trenches or on the playing field. That involves putting on your Big boy pants and taking a risk, which some never do...and that is the Biggest failure of them all.
The Biggest men with the Biggest ideas can be shot down by the smallest men with the smallest minds. Think Big anyway.
22nd Century Group, (XXII)
3.22 +.53 (19.70%)
Is the APRIL newsletter coming out early ?
Ditto Tim, I'm not even reading that board any longer. We all know that Big Puff has the stuff and that's good enough for me!
I also believe spiffy will go first but I have revised my thinking on it . Peter is someone who grooms companies to sell and I figured a year or so and he would be down the road and we would wakeup one morning to find our " cash " portion of our portfolio to be much larger than the day before . I was thinking a market cap of 1 billion sounded about right for a sellout , which would be roughly a 8 bagger from here or approx. $50 a share . Since then I've revised my thinking because I realized spiffy has a much bigger potential than I first thought especially with the potential that Overland can help with . HTFBS subs know exactly what I'm referring to . Peter knows this and is a share holder just like us and I wouldn't doubt a buyout at 2 billion or above which would make many of us millionaires . Nothing is a sure thing but owning a 5 figure share count in spiffy is certainly worth the wait for me. At the same time I also have revised my expectations for XXII . I think both stocks might take more time than what we originally thought but the upside is huge . These two stocks don't happen by every day which is why I'm so glad Van doesn't commit his self to a stock pick every Tuesday . All this of course just my opinion.
'Tim' imo I think that both XXII and SPIHF will indeed be bought out by a behemoth with deep pockets. SPIHF is my top choice for a buyout first. My reasoning tends to believe they (SPIHF) have set their course to be taken out by the likes of a huge corporation in the far east vs. a western hemisphere company. Why else would they make these early alliances and buys of other small yet overachieving players. I think to bolster their worth and add to their bag of tricks thus making a buyout more appealing to potential suitors. Lol... but opinions are like a-holes everyone has one!
I also wish I could buy more but I have a huge safety factor having bought both spiffy and cig very early in the game . I do feel sorry for the late comers who are 100 % upside down only to have to endure all this nonstop bashing . I hope they do the DD required to ignore the outside noise and realize this is a huge opportunity for both stocks . Traders are not going away so we have to expect more of this . They will disappear when the stocks rise and pop up at each retracement . I'm looking at 18 to 24 months out and maybe much more with XXII if they don't sell out. At least we still have the oldtimers still posting here . I rely on Vans updates for real information.
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Our philosophy:
Our goal is to find companies that can show at least a 1,000% return on our investment. Some call these “Ten-Baggers”. In order to achieve a tenfold return on our investing dollar, valuation plays a key role.
We are often asked just how does a company make the cut...or what are we looking for when highlighting a company for the HTFBSN? Simply put, our goal is to find a company with disruptive technology that is part of a major investing wave, along with that potential 1,000% return. Hence, our Big Stock designation!
Our definition of disruptive is any technology or service that either changes or creates an entire industry.
A key criteria for making the cut is that the company HAS TO HAVE the ability to become a Big Stock. What does that mean?
Well to give a little history, back when we invested in the venture capital (VC) and angel investing worlds, savvy investors in that genre know that roughly seven out of ten investments would fail. The real key though, was the three investments that did indeed become success stories, would tend to deliver at least ten times our seed money in return. Of course, in order for this to happen, EACH investment had to have the potential to grow at least tenfold...but we don’t want to wait two or three years to see those returns.
As previously alluded, a company’s market capitalization, NOT ITS STOCK PRICE is a must.
Our goal is to find a company that has the potential to grow from their current valuation by at least a factor of ten. Does the technology have the potential to be worth at least ten times the current valuation, or can the company grow their revenues with this technology so it could command a valuation ten times greater than its current market capitalization?
Valuation is key!
It is very rare to find a company that is valued over $100M having the capability to grow tenfold. It happens, but once a company reaches the $100M valuation, if there really is some potential to become that “Ten-Bagger”, institutions tend to discover it and/or they are made an offer they can’t refuse before having a chance to reach that zenith. That is why we tend to stay UNDER the $100M valuation for our ideas. Of course, the lack of research makes our work harder, but that is where we feel the Big Stock returns are found. The lack of research and institutional coverage also means the masses have not discovered or recognized its potential.
For example, let’s take one of our first highlighted companies in the original issue of HTFBSN. That company was Destiny Media Technologies DSNY This particular recommendation was in the .36 - .40 cent range at that time with a market capitalization (valuation) of approximately $20M. We originally thought that Destiny’s disruptive technology was easily worth $200M, hence it fell into our Big Stock return criteria. Fast forward to today, the first week of May 2013, and Destiny’s present market capitalization is approximately $44M. We think our original assessment and vision of the company’s technology worth is now north of our initial estimate of $200M. But the real importance of this example, is that for our original subscribers; they still have the chance to realize that “Ten-Bagger” return!
On the other hand, in keeping with our theme of finding companies under HTFBSN’s ceiling of $100M, let’s now look at a similar company to Destiny. This particular company had recovered from a low in 2008 below 20 cents a share, to a high in 2009 of 75 cents a share and a market capitalization (valuation) of approximately $130M at its peak. The company we are contrasting here to drive home our “valuation is key” philosophy is On2 Technologies. Our subscribers may remember that we have previously mentioned in our coverage on Destiny, that On2 Technologies was acquired by Google in 2010, which offered $133.9M for the acquisition. Remember what we stated earlier... that institutions discover companies once they reach that key threshold of $100M, or they are made an offer they just can’t refuse! In this case mighty Google wanted what On 2 Technologies had.
Furthermore, logic and common sense dictate that companies with market capitalizations of $100M and above, rising tenfold to become $1B companies are very difficult to find. They are few and far between, along with just about everything else happening in the investor’s favor to achieve those kinds of returns! Now ask yourself, what are those odds?
That is why we say valuation, and not stock price, is truely a key element in our highlighted companies chosen for presentation to our subscribers.
Sometimes the difficulty of investing this way is waiting on the masses to catch up
The difference between investing as a Venture Capitalist and being a Joe Public investor, is the liquidity factor. As a VC investor, only an IPO or buyout can provide the ability to liquidate our investment. As a public stock investor, liquidity is as easy as clicking your mouse.
Several CEO’s have told us that we do a pretty good of telling their story, but the bottom line is where it counts. The nanocap world is filled with great stories. How many glossy flyers do you get in the mail each week? The trick is to find a great story that is close to generating revenues or finding institutional interest. Do they have enough cash to survive? How long is their sales cycle? Do they own the technology or are they licensing it? Do they have any death-spiral financing? What is the catalyst that will generate revenues?
We invest like VC’s, but we have a built in advantage... namely liquidity!
The HTFBSN looks at hundreds of companies each month with the proprietary BigStockular tool discussed in our book How To Find Big Stocks. In a typical year this tool might help us find a half-dozen companies that we feel have Big Stock potential. We don't invest in them as day trades or swing trades, but with the intent of a minimum six-month hold to give the company a chance to deliver. Unlike a VC, if we don't like what we see, we can liquidate our position. Advantage us!
In addition, our annual subscribers and those loyal monthly subscribers of six months or more are provided a link to the companies we are performing due diligence on, courtesy of our monthly BigStockular review. These companies might not make the half-dozen or so that actually get officially highlighted for subscribers in the HTFBSN, but some of these could potentially reward subscribers with a positive return on their investment dollars as well, if they choose to purchase. This is an added benefit for loyal readers that is not offered by our competitors!
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Does the company have disruptive or breakthrough technology?
Does the technology solve a problem?
Is the technology proprietary?
Is the industry or space for this technology over $1B?
Does the product/service impact the consumer, enterprise or both?
Is adoption expected to occur within 1-2 years?
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