First American Scientific Corp. (fka FASC)

[Waitedg]

My Quote Tracker - 4:45 PM --shows a bid of .0085 and an ask of .018. - ANY NEWBIES TO THIS BOARD: WARNING - DO NOT PLACE A MARKET ORDER !! Waitedg

[Waitedg]

Net-Man - "So, PR not withstanding, isn't this good news in your world?" Although addressed to Charlie, my answer is yes--qualified by the statement: I have come to learn that my world is much, much bigger than I had previously realized. And this much, much bigger world comprises the market. Waitedg

[Net-Man]

charlie - My understanding is the sale will lead to the ability to pay for the financials. All in - I am OK at the moment without a PR. As TRCPA noted though, the big news is one sale complete and 3 more coming. Perhaps the larger sale will generate the PR you and others would like.

So, PR not withstanding, isn't this good news in your world?

fwiw,

Net-Man

[Waitedg]

A Personal Opinion. Only a few here know the information provided on St. Malo's post. A mere 130,000 shares have traded today. Observations:

1. Those who are truly positively impressed by the new information, are not acting on it to any significant degree. The reason why I believe (rightly or wrongly) is that if you own say 3,000,000 frozen shares, how much better percentage wise will another 100K or so make you. When there are still the negatives facing us--non-reporting for an extended period, huge amount of dollars owed the former CEO's estate, as well as present management, mistakes made(and perhaps understandably so--by a skeleton crew)--such as wrong motor being shipped, etc., age of CEO, etc. ,etc..

2. And then we have all the positives posted by Net-man, TR, St. Malo--and others.

The reality is that this is a very interesting situation--and, in my opinion, neither the positives not the negatives are going to make that much difference until the management gets restored in it proper management functions and duties.

In the meantime, we old timers have an interesting ride. Let's ride well with each other. Waitedg

[TRCPA]

Charlie.....that completed KDS sales is good news. The 3 KDS to be purchased by St-Malo is VERY GOOD news.

Can we follow these up with, perhaps something like a 10 KDS sale?

Hmmmmm.......maybe we just can.

[Al4343]

FWIW, I called FASC early this am & left a message. No call back. Same ol IMO. Also discouraging that we get ONE SALE and screw up the motor...geez.
Obviously not nearly as optimistic as the Kool Aid crew. There is resistance @ .018, but if this had any volume it would not mean much. Still waiting 60 days + for our "very busy" crew to produce delinqunt financials. Hmmm if they don't ...they can use that as an excuse not to update us or the market on ANYTHING...Great strategy...Thanx Brian for keeping the sp from increasing.

Al

[charlie02356]

And this SHOULD HAVE BEEN big news...

A KDS was finally delivered in Val d'Or, Quebec, yesterday... and the machine will be running by the end of next week.

...since it has obviously been paid for. But because the financials are not finished no PR of this sale is forthcoming.

[TRCPA]

Big news of the day from St-Malo.......

"Now about the St-Malo project, we finally found new partners who will help us expand by three fold the original plan. This means that we will need 3 KDS machines. The financing should be attached by the end of 2013, as we get a major contract of electricity production. The plant will produce power and steam from wood dust, and briquettes/pellets as solid biofuels for the local market."

[Waitedg]

St. Malo's post has produced a wide response of emotion. My only additional comment is that the rules apply equally to very positive as well as very negative material content--that may have objectionable generic or specific personal opinions expressed. Persons have the right to use ignore--if they wish--but I have learned the hard way that respect for all posters is very important--regardless of the main content of what is provided. Just my opinion. Waitedg

[Waitedg]

St. Malo - I agree with Sambeaux. Your original post had criticisms of many posts which you found fault with. I think you owe it to Sunspotter (whose out look on FASC has been quite guarded) to have saved the main ingredients of your post, and removed the objectionable parts. We now have it to refer to in an acceptable format. Waitedg

[sunspotter]

St. Malo's post edited appropriately:

"News from Quebec

I try to keep up with this forum [edit]. Here are a few messages that should shed light about the KDS.

A KDS was finally delivered in Val d'Or, Quebec, yesterday. In fact, the machine was delivered earlier, but had the wrong motor. I talked today with the owner and the machine will be running by the end of next week. You can bet that many interested prospect I talked to, during the last two years, will want to see the KDS in operation. I plan to have FPInnovations (the world's largest research center in forestry) make a technical report on the performance of the machine, drying and pulverizing different feedstocks such as wood chips, bark and manure.

For those who think they found a machine on the Web capable of doing the same things as the KDS, I would be surprised of that. And for those who fear that someone could copy the system and not pay for the original KDS, the secret is in the "brain" of the electronic controls and I doubt it will be copied one day!

Now about the St-Malo project, we finally found new partners who will help us expand by three fold the original plan. This means that we will need 3 KDS machines. The financing should be attached by the end of 2013, as we get a major contract of electricity production. The plant will produce power and steam from wood dust, and briquettes/pellets as solid biofuels for the local market.

Finally, if you want to read more about the position of DGR Forestry Consultants of Quebec about biomass and biofuels, you can read a paper that I signed, which is available (in French) at the following hyperlink:

http://consultationenergie.gouv.qc.ca/memoires/20130919_116_Consultants_Forestiers_DGR_M.pdf

Sorry if I didn't mention the KDS in this paper, but if you read between the lines, you will know that these projets will need lots of KDS's to get on track.

I don't know how all this will affect FASC stock price, but my input on this forum is to inform you about what's going on here. Again, come to see us anytime at St-Malo Heating in Quebec City. The KDS's aren't in place yet, but the building conversion has started!"

[Net-Man]

St-Malo's information is great news for FASC. Not only did he confirm the KDS was delivered for his customer, but he indicated his project is growing and will require 3 KDSs and this may take place by EOY.

If we get one of the other large deals announced by then, the pps will be off like a shot. I for one won't complain about the 40% increase today.

fwiw,

Net-Man

[TRCPA]

Fasctrack......amen to that as well !!!

[TRCPA]

Charlie.......the glass half full says 4 KDS sales via just one source before the end of 2013. Keep your eyes on that beautiful part!

That's excluding all of the other projects going on all over the country and the world!!!

[Fasctrack]

Love this sentenance as well: Sorry if I didn't mention the KDS in this paper, but if you read between the lines, you will know that these projects will need lots of KDS's to get on track.

[charlie02356]

St-Malo: The spacing between your posts is long enough to get me a little nervous about the project, but then when you do post it's usually with encouraging news (past financing issues aside).

I won't be holding my breath regarding the 3 KDS...just having a single sale would be worth celebrating.

What annoyed me about your latest post was the statement that the KDS was delivered with the wrong motor. Inexcusable on FASC's part! The basic sizes (S4, S6 & S8) all come with specific hp motors, so to screw that up screams incompetence. And if it was a special motor size then that would have been indicated on the PO, and should have been double checked before sending it across Canada. Very poor job of quality control, but then again they can't afford a QC Dept.

Charlie

[Net-Man]

St-Malo - Very much appreciate your update and look forward to hearing more as your customer moves forward with their KDS.

Also, very exciting to hear your own project is moving forward and is expanding to 3 KDSs. I am looking forward to visiting with you early next year. Je pourrais peut-être balancer par pendant le carnaval?

Merci,

Net-Man

[sambeaux]

Just our luck. ALL THIS TIME..
and the wrong motor.
Oh well, what's another 2 weeks..
tacked on to 14 years.
Still holding.
PS
Thanks Malo!
I also love your reference to the
KDS "brains".

[TRCPA]

St-Malo......tremendous news, thanks for sharing.....particularly about the increase in the need for KDS to 3 for your project!!

[Al4343]

Great to hear a (1) KDS was delivered. Since our CEO does not feel this is material, I'm glad someone reported it. I will attempt to get some info at the risk of being disappointed yet again by my CEO.

As for the financing of THREE KDS (by eoy) I hope this occurs and I hope, if it is that the purchase will be reported for the first time EVER by a selling company run by Brian Nichols. There is hope in Mudville...technically the stock is (and has been) cleared for takeoff (at least to mid .02s...If the market is ever notified perhaps we may even get volume by 2014.

Al

[rj2]

Hi St Malo,

Thank you for the update! I am excited about having our technology finally being used where it will get the attention it deserves.

I look forward to further news!

RJ

[Fasctrack]

Oh yeah that's right...but if its any consolation, they have been working very hard.

[charlie02356]

Fasctrack: Duh! It's obviously a demo...we don't make sales.

[Fasctrack]

Is that a sale or a demo?

[Waitedg]

TR - I guess the only thing of significance to me is if it was shipped to Korea in 2012, what is the significance of that to 10/10/13? Waitedg

[Al4343]

Now you sound more like Brian Nichols...leave it to others to research the company you are CEO of. Wonderful strategy... netting sp of .01 with zero volume. Thanks Brian!!!

[TRCPA]

Beischens.......I think we would have to dig more deeply into the numbers. ONE KDS would process 3 tons/hour. If you need 20 tons per hour, then you would need 7 KDS (even better, if you are a FASC investor).

The next question would be cost. 7 KDS would cost about $2 million. We know that coal is cheaper than biomass, but you have a strong push these days away from coal, so politics and incentives also enter the game.....hence cogeneration coal/biomass plants are becoming more desirable, which would suit the KDS perfectly.

I think the real answers in coal/biomass cogeneration are far more complex and specific to the targeted areas; i.e. also involving cap and trade, carbon credits, political climate, etc.

In the meantime, the KDS is currently involved in numerous other areas and applications, almost beyond comprehension.

[TRCPA]

Hongcouver......any thoughts or perspectives you can add to these KDS shipments to Korea?

TIA, TR

[beischens]

Trout,

This article is a pipe dream.

This being said, if FASC wants to be a player, they need an update and keep updated to their site, especially the KDS throughput.

It takes about 100 tons of coal per hour to produce 100 megawatts of power.

the FASC site advertizes 3 tons of coal per hour. Coal plants will not even consider such a low through put.

There is less energy in bio-mass than in coal. less energy = more tonnage per hour for the same megawatt output.

The plant I'm currently at has worn out coal mills, but I can't/won't point them at a possible replacement where they would only have to buy only about 175 units to meet their needs.

If through put was up to say 20 tons per hour, maybe an argument could be made.

BILL

[TRCPA]

Thanks, troutkinglives. Interesting that the article came from the Vancouver Sun.

[troutkinglives]

Future of cogeneration is green

According to the International Energy Agency, power generation from non-hydro renewable sources including solar, wind and bioenergy will exceed gas and nuclear by 2016 and renewable power is expected to increase by 40 per cent in the next five years. "Combined heat and power (CHP), also known as cogeneration, is the simultaneous production of electricity and heat from a single fuel source, such as natural gas, biomass, biogas, coal, waste heat, or oil," reports the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

Cogeneration was likely first introduced by Thomas Edison in 1882 at his Pearl Street Station which combined heat and power, producing electricity and thermal energy. While sources such as solar and wind are well known alternate energy sources, it is estimated that around eight per cent of world electric generation capacity comes from cogeneration power systems. In countries such as Finland (almost 40 per cent) and Denmark (over 50 per cent) cogen provides a substantial portion of the national power production.

Cogeneration is more a principle rather than a single technology with the main advantage of CHP plants being optimal efficiency. Conventional power generation discards up to 65 per cent of energy potential as waste heat while cogeneration plants have a conversion efficiency of 75-90 per cent and are particularly useful in colder climates where the heat can be used for heating buildings and industrial processes. A further benefit lies in the proximity of the average cogen facility compared to the five-to-10 per cent loss in transmission of electricity from typically remote traditional power stations.

Environmentally friendly, the majority of today's large industrial and commercial CHP applications are in the pulp and paper, chemical, refining, food processing, ethanol and manufacturing sectors, which require vast amounts of electricity and heat, and typically run on natural gas which is generally believed to be the cleanest fossil fuel. As natural gas is in great supply across North America, it is free of geopolitical strife. Cogeneration systems use less fuel to produce the same amount of energy. Cogeneration is an integrated energy system that may be altered depending upon the needs of the energy user.

Gas fired cogen plants are common, but biomass fuelled plants have the added benefit of using a renewable, practically inexhaustible fuel source. In a pulp mill, for instance, wood waste that would typically end up in landfills can be recycled and used as fuel for on-site cogeneration plants to provide power for the pulp mill and for steam for operations. Any additional power can be exported.

I believe that cogeneration systems play a crucial role in meeting North American energy needs and reducing the environmental impact of power generation such as found with coal. As reported by www.good.is, it takes 876 kWh to power a single light bulb continuously for a year which equates to 714 pounds of coal or 143 pounds for natural gas.

Quite simply, cogeneration systems require less fuel than these conventional sources as both heat and fuel are utilized to produce energy and sources such as biomass waste can be used as a fuel to further lessen the impact on the environment. Because less fuel is burned to produce energy, CHP reduces greenhouse gas emissions. CHP's high efficiency and reliability also result in overall savings for the operations.

Our company, Fortress Paper has made a significant investment in cogeneration at our Fortress Specialty Cellulose Mill in Thurso, Que., where we have expanded into the renewable energy generation sector with the construction of a cogeneration facility and are upgrading the on-site cogeneration facility to produce up to 25 megawatts of green energy. We also entered into an energy supply agreement with Hydro-Québec to provide green power to the grid over a 15-year term.

Cogeneration exemplifies a demonstrated, cost-effective and energy-efficient solution for delivering electricity and heat. As we make a transition to a more sustainable energy future, continued availability of affordable natural gas is crucial. Newer technologies such as fuel cells, with their smallscale applications, also play an important role in cogeneration's future.

As more organizations invest in cogeneration, we will likely see a noticeable reduction in peak electrical demand. This benefits utility providers by decreasing infrastructure costs and alleviates upward pressure on electricity costs. As climate change caused by greenhouse gases becomes a growing global issue, the significance of CHP as a real way to reduce emissions is more obvious than ever.

Chadwick Wasilenkoffis chairman, chief executive officer and founder of Fortress Paper Ltd.

© Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun

http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Future+cogeneration+green/9014959/story.html

[TRCPA]

Waitedg......simple answer.....KDS shipped from Canada to Korea. I have to start leaving it to others for follow-up.

[bladelawless]

Seems everything works in slow motion on this stock. What do you expect from an 80 year CEO?

[bladelawless]

two days in a row the bid's been propped up to .014 and 0 volume... hmmm... seems like some shareholder wants to feign bid support by propping it up...

[Waitedg]

TR - Can you translate your last two posts into 50 words or less of simple English? Is this an order with a late 2012 date on it? Confused. Waitedg

[TRCPA]

And this.........

http://www.paraer.com/corporations/hankook-filter-co.html

http://www.importgenius.com/fr/importers/hankook-filter-co

Hankook Filter Co. Importe des produits de First American Scientific Corp. through the port of Tacoma, Washington via Vancouver, Bc.

Jeu de connaisseur

Le numéro du jeu de connaisseur

OOLU104049626001


Arrival Date

2012-11-30


Numéro du voyage

066E


Le nom du vaisseau

NINGBO EXPRESS


Expéditeur

FIRST AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC CORP.
282-5489 BYRNE ROAD BURNABY BC, CAN ADA.


Consignataire

HANKOOK FILTER CO.
951-12,DOGOK-DONG KANGNAM-KU SEOUL , SOUTH KOREA .

Avertir l'intéressé


Port de chargement

Vancouver, BC


Port de déchargement

Tacoma, Washington



Déclaration de marchandises

KDS MICRONEX S4

[TRCPA]

Hongcouver......well I'll be dog-goned. Check the following out.

http://www.importgenius.com/fr/importers/advance-cargo-logistics-co-ltd

Logistic Corp. through the port of Tacoma, Washington via Vancouver, Bc.

Sample shipment record for Advance Cargo Logistics Co Ltd

Jeu de connaisseur

Le numéro du jeu de connaisseur

OOLU1040496260

Arrival Date

2012-11-30

Numéro du voyage

066E

Le nom du vaisseau

NINGBO EXPRESS

Expéditeur

KL LOGISTIC CORP.
15161 S. FIGUEROA ST. GARDENA CA UNITED STATES

Consignataire

ADVANCE CARGO LOGISTICS CO., LTD
801 MYUNGJI BLDG 78-15 4GA JUNGANG PUSAN . SOUTH KOREA


Avertir l'intéressé

ADVANCE CARGO LOGISTICS CO., LTD
801 MYUNGJI BLDG 78-15 4GA JUNGANG PUSAN . SOUTH KOREA

Port de chargement

Vancouver, BC


Port de déchargement

Tacoma, Washington


Déclaration de marchandises

KDS MICRONEX S4

[Al4343]

Company policy. Zero information for market or shareholders. Nichols Law...

Al

[sambeaux]

WOW! Look at all those KDSs all
over the world.
SO BRIGHT AND SHINY IN DIFFERENT COLORS.
I really like that blue..
and the standard green of course.
But .015 tells a different story.
Still holding...

[Hongcouver]

TRCPA,

At the PacWest main page, there is the "PWG Partners" statement.....directly below is the photo with "KDS Equipment"......click that and other photos will appear.

HC

[TRCPA]

Never mind, I found it through this link......

http://www.pacwestglobal.net/kds.html

Will see what more I can find on this.

[TRCPA]

Thanks, Hongcouver. I havent followed Korea in quite some time, and havent seen thos photos before.

How did you access those? It looks like they are under "Projects".....however, when I just click on "Projects", I get "Coming Soon".

What am I missing here?

TIA, TR

[Hongcouver]

TRCPA,

Regarding wastewater treatment........have you searched for more information regarding the S6 at the Korean Project.....specific to the photos shown on the PacWest site:
http://www.pacwestglobal.net/korea.html

HC

[TRCPA]

Waitedg.......CEO's come in all shapes and sizes. The next time someone contacts him, that would be a good question to ask.

[Waitedg]

TR - Although Adam must certainly be learning a lot, I am of the distinct impression that he has no interest and no skills in administrative functions. I think Adam will confirm to anyone who talks with him that what I say is true. I believe he is not the person to take over leadership of the company, and he will be the first to confirm this. Waitedg

[TRCPA]

I would like to see a number of sales, ranging from 20 or so each from QL and eventually Sawipac, several from St-Malo and Mexico, the start of sales of a commercialized wastewater treatment process via JCL, and SCA buying KDS for paper recycling, among others.

They are all solid possibilities..... the combination of which would have us talking dollars per share perhaps, instead of pennies.

[Al4343]

I would like to see A SALE, or the two months and counting fins with zero revs at least up to date.... The "club" has been pushing sold machines for months...I'd like to see that in the books. But I am thrilled hat our team has been working feverishly...

Al

[TRCPA]

Waitedg......Adam is learning a lot at the feet of Brian. He may becoming closer to ready to take over some day. I see this phenomena in the business world every day now. Younger people are far more able to take over then in the past due to the changes in the speed of the information age.....which may confound some of the older folks. Adam and Brian probably make a good team in this respect. I would still like to see someone else with financial and legal experience enter the picture soon following new sales.

[sambeaux]

Everyday I spend a few moments praying
for Brian's good health.
And everybody here knows the main
reason why.
Still holding..

[Waitedg]

From my past information, Adam has neither the capacity nor the interest in the CEO role. He is interested in just the technical and installation role as far as the KDS is concerned. RJ can add more to this, if he wishes. I believe someone from the outside world have to be brought in if transitional help is to occur. Waitedg