First American Scientific Corp. (fka FASC)

[sambeaux]

Never mind.. I am darn confused
about all this.
There appear to be 3 different companies supplying
this "happy cow" stuff. And we don't even know if KDS
is involved in maybe one of them.. the SCA delivery..
because nobody has told us.

"SARATOGA >> Hanehan Family Dairy is one of 90 New York state farms that use recycled paper mill sludge to keep cows clean, healthy and comfortable.

Syracuse Fiber Recycling gets the material from SCA Tissue in South Glens Falls, Finch Paper Co. in Glens Falls and Rock-Tenn Co. in Solvay, near Syracuse."

[sambeaux]

But, I am with Al on this. It is of
extreme material/investment importance
(if KDS is part of the project).
And would be just about derelict to not
report that fact... somewhere.
Not trying to be kurmugeon.. but
this is enormous news. If it's KDSs.
It would be almost like Microsoft buying
Amazon and not telling anybody.
Or Apple selling 20 million Iphones
to the govt.
Or something like that.
Some events (at least BIG ones) have
to be reported.. somewhere.
Don't they?

[TRCPA]

Sam.....not at all. There is no indication of who is processing the paper sludge in that article, and it sure has the handprint of FASC licensee Gene Bernat.

[sambeaux]

T.K., THAT JUST ABOUT SURELY LEAVES FASC OUT OF
the SCA project. There is no way
this could be being done by KDS.. and
FASC hqtrs not have to report it to
shareholders.
Darn.
There goes by far the best potential
project for our KDS.

[troutkinglives]

Innovative cow bedding used at Hanehan Family Diary
Published: Monday, October 14, 2013

SARATOGA >> Hanehan Family Dairy is one of 90 New York state farms that use recycled paper mill sludge to keep cows clean, healthy and comfortable.
Syracuse Fiber Recycling gets the material from SCA Tissue in South Glens Falls, Finch Paper Co. in Glens Falls and Rock-Tenn Co. in Solvay, near Syracuse.
Short-fiber papermaking residue is mixed with cement dust, a drying agent, to make animal bedding that is absorbent and has a high pH content, which inhibits bacteria so cows producer higher-quality milk.
“Farmers use a lot of byproducts,” said Philip Hanehan, the farm’s herdsman. “All this stuff helps reduce the carbon footprint of the dairy industry and food production in general.”
Sludge that isn’t recycled would have to be landfilled.

However, one of the product’s main advantages, in addition to being environmentally friendly, is its health benefits because of concerns about mastitis and somatic cell counts, which are used to measure milk quality.

“It allows us to maintain clean beds,” Hanehan said. “With clean beds come lower somatic cell counts, better scores and healthier cows.”

The farm recently won a “Super Milk 20 Year Award” for its two straight decades of producing high-quality milk.
The late Roger R. Elston founded Syracuse Fiber Recycling 15 years ago. Starting in the 1980s, he ran a dairy farm in northwest Ohio for 10 years. Before that, he worked in the chemical industry. Drawing on that background and his contacts in the paper industry, he started thinking how waste sludge could help the mills and agriculture.

Sludge has 40 to 50 percent moisture content at the end of the papermaking process. When cement dust — high in calcium carbonate — is mixed in, the moisture goes down considerably.

The company, now owned by Elston’s sons, Joe and Roger W. Elston, occupies 40,000 square feet of former manufacturing space near the New York State Fairgrounds. In 2012, the business sold 70,000 tons of material to 90 farms across New York.

“We’re looking at 30 to 35 percent growth over the next five to 10 years,” Joe Elston said.

Recently, Syracuse Industrial Development Agency voted to exempt the business from sales tax on construction materials for a proposed renovation of its facility and a 4,000-square-foot addition, costing a combined $759,000. The IDA also applied for a $375,000 state grant to fund the project; the company will finance the rest.

Joe Elston said state Department of Environmental Conservation approval was required to start marketing the product because some farmers put used bedding on fields as fertilizer. The high pH content in cement dust is good for the soil, he said.

The Hanehans mix their recycled fiber with sawdust, another common form of cow bedding, which they get from Vermont. However, recycled paper sludge is more readily available and less expensive than sawdust, Hanehan said.

“We get a tractor-trailer load every 10 days,” Hanehan said.

They use this bedding mixture for about 70 percent of their 700-cow dairy herd. In one barn, they still use deep-bedded sand, another common type of animal bedding.

“The problem with sand is that it settles to the bottom of your manure storage area and has to be dredged out,” Hanehan said.

Bedding is sold in bulk form by the yard, usually in quantities of 80 yards for $580. Most Central New York farmers pick up bedding on their own.

The company contracts with a trucking company to deliver bedding to farms that are farther away, such as Hanehan’s and Chambers Valley Farm in Salem, Washington County.

After dropping off bedding at local farms, trucks go to SCA Tissue and Finch Paper, where they pick up sludge that’s brought back to Syracuse for recycling. Finch Paper owns and operates a sludge landfill in Northumberland and recently purchased an adjacent, undeveloped landfill from Saratoga County that will be used for municipal solid waste. Long-term plans call for consolidating the two facilities.

Finch also sends some sludge to other businesses that use it for compost.

“We’re especially glad that it can be used for agricultural purposes in this area,” spokesman John Brodt said.

http://saratogian.com/articles/2013/10/14/news/doc525c906401feb484926163.txt?viewmode=3

[Al4343]

The FASC saga continues. There is whopping amount of less than 3k worth of stock between FASC and .021. The flip side is there is paltry support between .011 and .013. Additional bad news is SILENCE continues as FASC remains delinquent in filing AND for the fourth year there is NO CONFIRMATION on ANY of the dd done on this thread, including two supposed sales from months ago and STMs' referral sale. The result is the few remaining FASC shareholders get jerked around on light volume. THANKS BRIAN NICHOLS for the continued silence & delinquent financials. Hope you are staying "very busy". You are NOT providing shareholder support.

Al

[sambeaux]

OK- But just as worser.. 6K took
it down 27%.
.018 down to .013. OUCH.
But we've seen this before.
Still holding...

[Net-Man]

Sam - It doesn't look that way:

Price Size Mkt Time
$0.013 6,000 OTO 14:29:13
$0.018 1,100 OTO 14:25:12
$0.013 3,000 OTO 14:22:55
$0.015 50,000 OTO 12:57:04
$0.018 800 OTO 10:29:52
$0.0113 4,000 OTO 09:30:03

[sambeaux]

Did I just see a 100 share trade drop
the stock price 15% ?!?

[sambeaux]

There are a lot of energy producing
companies out there. Here is one (private)
I just found out about in Reno.
http://electratherm.com/
Maybe one day FASC will have a website
like this.
It looks like they make their own gadgets.
And distribute them all over the world.

[Waitedg]

Thanks' Charlie. I have both Google Chrome and Firefox--both just recently set up for me. Lots of problems with IE--but teaching an old dog new tricks takes the kind of progress and patience we have been experiencing with FASC. The trend line of change is dangerously slow. Waitedg

PS Recently I posted a rather lengthy post comparing FASC with JC Penney (JCP). Wish we had Techisbest around for technical analysis on support base formations. It is falling rapidly again having not held at 8. Some are predicting a fall to about 5. Perhaps I will start posting on the I hub board there shortly. Anyone interested might join. Two or three heads are better than one. Waitedg

[charlie02356]

Waitedg: Get a better browser, either Google Chrome (my choice) or Firefox. No one I know uses IE.

[Waitedg]

Sorry for my triple posted post. Internet Explorer is acting strange lately.

[Waitedg]

Charlie - The Tigers on paper look like they should be by far the best team in baseball. The Red Sox won more games than any other team in either league. The rest of the series will be very interesting. I once saw Ted Williams hit a couple of homers in the same game at Fenway Park. Back then it was a question of who was the best player in baseball--Williams or Joe DiMaggio of the Yankees. Dom DiMaggio, Joe's brother, was no slouch either.

I think if I lived in Nevada, I might put up a thousand or two FASC shares to bet on the series. On the other hand, FASC pretty well handles my risk taking needs. Waitedg

[charlie02356]

Waitedg: Scherzer should have been left in until he got into trouble. I don't like all the pitching changes that happen nowadays. Games would be a lot shorter if they limited to 4 the number of pitchers used - not the 9! that Madden used in the ALDS.

[Waitedg]

Quiet day today. Imagine all the Bostonians will be eating their New England Clam Chowder or eating steamed clams dipped in butter--as they stress elation over their Red Sox miraculous come from behind victory. Headlines in the Grand Rapids Press "TIGERS BLOW LATE LEAD"

Having lived with FASC so many years, I have learned to "pick up the crumbs" of defeat, and say tomorrow is a better day. And around here I hear a lot of "if only" statements. If only Shuster had been left on one more inning. If only Smiley wasn't yanked after pitching to just one batter, etc.

But, like a good FASC investor, I have learned to pick up the pieces many time, and say that victory is just around the corner. I have learned to be a fairly good loser. What would I

[sambeaux]

semi OT - I was based in New York for
about 15 years.. back when I was flying
with Pan Am.
I had lots of (NICE) layovers in Boston.
BTW my FASC/Boston "analogy" did not have
to do with who I was rooting for.
Actually some friends and I all had bets on
New Orleans (we got 2 1/2 points!). That last
20 seconds wiped us out.
I had a parlay that would have paid 4 to 1
if N.E. just could have missed that extra point.
(They still would have won the game.. what was
the big deal about making it.. or even trying.)
PS
For perspective my football gambling bet was
worth about 3,333 shares relative to my FASC
(gambling) portfolio/bet.
Actually winning the bet would have been equal to
about 13,000 shares. (ie: I bet $50)
Ain't that a sad perspective.

[charlie02356]

Sam I am...impressed. Either you're a transplanted New Englander like Waitedg, or you're a true sports fan. And you didn't have to stay up until midnight!

[sambeaux]

Charlie, In the 4th quarter and in
the 8th inning I would have given
FASC a better chance at "winning" than
either of those teams.

[All City Baby]

Charlie, here is my prediction for FASC today:

TOUCHDOWN!!!



















(Opposite of blast off )

[Waitedg]

A New Topic Regarding FASC.

One of the things investors need to look at is investor sentiment. FASC is a rare stock in that outside of this board there is hardly any sentiment at all. And, if any, it would likely be quite negative--for all the reasons clearly stated on this board--and with little to none external stimulant to the stock.

This is one of the reasons that makes FASC intriguing. A very few people are involved in any positive thinking. Yet, the overall market determines the price. It is important as individual investors to compare our thinking with that of the market. It is obvious that skilled investors like Warren Buffett and John Templeton, in the past, have become very wealthy by seeing rays of sunshine where others have seen nothing but panic and fear.

I am,for example, just starting to compare JC Penney with FASC. Talk about negativity and doomsday thinking, do a little reading and research here. Added to all the gloom is an investors proposed law suit. Tack on tax loss selling season, and the mass market is looking at what is valued as a lemon. FASC, in some sense, is even in worst condition than Penney. To illustrate,I once taught a Marriage and Family Living Class where I asked the students. "Which is more serious. A newlywed wife has an argument with her husband and she comes at him hell bent with a frying pan. Or the same wife, equally mad, running to her bedroom, slamming and locking the door."

The "right answer",(at least in the mind of Prof Waitedg),was the wife slamming and locking the door--because coming at her man with a frying pan, she was at least still communicating!

JC Penney--as negative and dismal as its outlook--is still communicating. FASC is not--except though a few here. But everything is reflected in stock price. And this is one reason that makes FASC such an intriguing stock.

By the way, JC Penney has an Ihub Board. I just put an hour or two of DD into it. For those interested, it is starting to intrigue my long shot mentality. Waitedg

[Al4343]

I'll take any solution that will allow the proper marketing of the KDS. Brian & his followers feel .015 is acceptable with occassional sales, but the opportunity to market the KDS is movong forward while we stand pat.

Al

[cpac]

Boy, with all the irons in the fire it sure looks like this company is ripe for a take-over.

[Al4343]

You guys are really something. No matter what I write you criticize. That's fine and very much in line with the new American approach. The facts (and sp) read and and the last four years have been abysmal for your ( and partially my ) company, and in particular CEO. First I am chastised for not recontacting the company, then insuklted for doing so. BTW since many feel BN does not follow this thread (why would he as he is not into shareholder communication), when I call I don't introduce myself as my IHUB alias....

Recently I have mentioned the stock is technically clear to run and lo & behold it rocketed from .011 bid to .015 bid, causing joy in FASCville. unfortunately I believe that leaves us all underwater, and volume is still anemic. Since St. Malo seems more than willing to share his plans, why would BN NOT take advantage and issue a market and shareholder update highlighting this achievement in detail, and mentioning the other VALID opportunites in general??


The situation has cried for a genuine effort to tap the myriad potential uses uncovered in this thread. This board chooses ro defend an old circus guy that has destroyed shareholder to this point, rather than requesting improved performance.

Al

[Waitedg]

James - Your suggestion shows kindness. With that there will be an unfolding process--just as there is with FASC. Waitedg

[Jamesfwh1]

A14343 If I were in BN's place and received a call and a request from you, I would first ask myself a question, "Can I help the caller?" The obv ious answer is "NO" Nothing that he or anyone else could say at this time can change you and your thinking. The simple answer to the problem is to find enough DD that you can accept that will help you make a decision to change and build your future on that. Hope you do that. James.

[rj2]

Al,

Do you ever read your posts after the fact?

Maybe Brian has the write idea.

Go Weadie!

RJ

[sambeaux]

semi-OT, Waitman-this is sort of what I expected
to hear from you. And I am generally happy with
your analysis. (Standing by for results)
I go to all these govt meetings
(philanthropically) and give the "gurus" myriad
ideas about how to make things better in
Reno (many of which "they" have obeyed..
secretly)
There are a lot of people who like
and appreciate what I do. But even some of my
greatest admirers do not like my "techniques".
You can decide for yourself by seeing 100s of
examples of Sam's presentational techniques
HERE

[Waitedg]

My Comments on Brian Nichols--

Before proceeding, I should state where I am coming from. My doctoral degree was in Program Development, a sub-division of Educational Leadership at Western Michigan University. In this type of work one has to conceptualize programs to help people with special needs, analyze leadership potentials--strengths and weaknesses, and propose programs for various needs-knowing they will be reshaped in the unfolding progress from conception to completion.

A great deal of my conclusions are based on what I glean from the posters here--some of which are highly valued, and others--not so much. I perhaps weigh much more highly subjective meetings as with RJ, for example, in the past than perhaps others would do. This is because we have spent several hours together, and RJ has had a more personal relationship with two of the key figures at FASC. These are my thoughts and conclusions:

1. Brian, in my opinion, is basically an honest man. He is also strong willed, hangs in there. I believe he will not desert the stockholder intentionally as scoundrels in penny stock world do. This determination, if correct, is highly relevant.

2. Brian is an old man--somewhere between 76 and 77 my guess. He has worked with a skeleton crew, being held together by a shoe string. He, like Cal, have let money or stock due him replace income.

3. The discouragement he must have endured the past few years is much more than many others would hold up under--especially at his age.

4. It becomes almost unbearable to hear some of the criticism of him, because telephone calls don't get returned, or he states what the company is--is what the company is. From my point, anyone who wants to portray a one-sided negative opinion, and sees nothing positive in this elderly gentleman, certainly has the right to express it. But, from this point on, I will leave it to others to respond--if they wish. It wont be me.

5. There are severe risks in FASC. But, in my opinion, none that cannot be correctable under the right scenario--and if and as the cards play out right.

6. I can see a possible buy-out or takeover, where Brian is held on as a senior officer/consultant basis for a temporary period, as transitional management slowly takes over. The risk/reward ratio is highly favorable. Waitedg

[Waitedg]

Net-Man -

Very interesting commentary of yours:

"Waitedg - You would enjoy one of the systems that I built. It models large systems and uses heuristic logic to determine solutions to problems. I have used a small version of this in the past to model the KDS market place. In short, my world is also very large in many respects. The world the KDS and by extension FASC competes in has many components and its sales trajectory is based on the intersections of several fractal rays. The algorithms to produce a sales solution are, suffice to say, somewhat complex."

Due to my very heavy schedule, I turn matters of this nature over to my associate, Mr. Sambeaux, to dig out the meat and report back to me. I am interested in his analysis of heuristic logic as related to the intersections of fractal rays and the algorithms to produce a sales solution. Sam, please give this your best mind and get back to me. Thanks, Waitedg

[TRCPA]

Al.....another party tried to call yesterday and didn't get through either. I would suggest you try again next week if you don't get a response.

[sambeaux]

How about the conversion from horse-
drawn wagons.. to cars. There was
a tremendous battle that most people
don't even think about anymore.
The wagon makers and horse raisers
did not want that new fangled stuff.
But GM/Ford and the road builders and
oil field folks and gas stations, etc,
etc sure loved it.
Now maybe the circle is going to be
filled even more.. toward "natural" stuff.
I/we hope!

[Al4343]

Back to my least favorite CEO. I called FASC HQ early Friday morning in an effort to get ANY info from Silent Brian. No call back all day, which is in line with my experience with this crew.

Which puts me right back in the vacuum of silence. St. Malo, after 1/2 year of trumpeting a KDS purchase, returns with a promise of THREE by year end, along with an actual delivery of one.

Two months after promised (2nd hand as I was only enlightened (NOT) by Brians infamous line), website updates, and delinquent financial filings, I have seen neither.

So while the Kool Aid drinkers rejoice, what we actually can confirm is ONE sale, no fins, and no website update, at this time.

The sp has improved from .011 bid to .015 bid so I guess the Sunshine Club can rejoice on the massive 36% gain, if you are content to sell no more than 100k at a time before the floor falls out.

NET, the root of the disconnect continues to be a grossly ineffectinve CEO for a company in period of potential success....

Still trying to swallow some kool aid,

Al

[TRCPA]

Waitedg.......the Jackie Robinson analogy to conversions from fossil fuels to renewables is a pretty apt one, and one I had never conidered before.

That's a pretty good fit for our situation, the more I think about it.

Good thoughts, TR

[TRCPA]

Fasctrack......also remember that Quebec was the first province or state in North America to enact carbon credits. This adds to the picture that you are portraying as evolution toward renewables and away from a carbon footprint.

Next up in line on this are two very close to home for FASC.....

British Columbia and California, starting in January, 2014.

I look for things to get real interesting in all three of these state/provinces.

We are already seeing the results taking place in Quebec, now, with 4 KDS sales on the way.

[sambeaux]

Waitman, I am anxious to read your hypotheses.

[Waitedg]

Fasctrack - Your point on financial institutions seems central to the obstacles. When the financial institutions and governmental agencies get on the same page, huge obstacles are overcome. St. Malo has mentioned that one of his major obstacles has been the problem of financial backing.

I think a comparable example was when Jackie Robinson became the first black player in the major leagues. The obstacles he had to overcome, with the able assistance of Branch Rickey, show how difficult the pathway of the innovator is--and how resistant we human beings are to change, the power struggles of vested, often selfish interest power players who want to keep the status quo. I agree that the KDS is a part of a rather complex concept with many obstacles to overcome. Once these are overcome through one good example, the follow up will be much smoother.

In the meantime the insight and knowledge of a few does not greatly impact the overall market due to the many often stated reasons. When these break down, and once they break down, we have the potential for an extremely interesting investment here. Always having been a "longshot player", there remains considerable fascination with just how the cards are going to be played out.

Have some new thoughts on Brian which I hope to post later today. Several hypotheses as to just how his ongoing relationship with FASC may develop. Waitedg

[Fasctrack]

I went back and re-read the linked article. One thing that I initially glossed over is the mention of financial institutions:

This initiative should be able to benefit from all the attention and all the financial support necessary to the part of the various levels of government and the financial institutions of Quebec, to ensure that the function of technological showcase effectively allows a wider dissemination of the solution in demonstration and a provincial deployment of the approach to biofuels secs for the reduction of GHG emissions, at the same time that the other financial benefits and socio-economic of this solution.

Financial institutions have long had many concerns over lending to biomass projects due to sustainability issues regarding biomass
production and use. Impressing commercial lenders will be a huge milestone IMHO. Provincial deployment too? Maybe the KDS will be a mandatory piece of equipment!

I am starting to realize why sales are so difficult. They are not just trying to sell a machine. They are trying to sell a concept, a concept which is integrated into a much larger project, a concept which goes against well entrenched traditional methods of waste disposal. In a year, I can see us saying that it has literally taken decades (from 1995 to 2015) to shift the political, socio-economic focus toward conservation, recycling and conversion. Hopefully by 2015, I will be lighting a cigar while watching my portfolio rocket out of sight.

[Waitedg]

Charlie - This translations seems to support what St. Malo has been stating from his very first post:

1. Governmental backing, and financial support. Demonstration site not only for other users, but equally important, the setting up of a governmental, inter-departmental flow system, when once the wrinkles get worked out, should have a support system established so that further users, having interest in involvement, wont have to go through all the hoops that St. Malo has had to.

2. We thus could have a demo system showing the application benefits, and a governmental support system to back it up, to make the flow of new orders much more smooth--once that time comes.

3. St. Malo,(our Poster),seems to have a natural interest in seeing progress made in all these areas, steadfastness and determination to hang in there, and not be turned down by obstacles. And finally, a genuine interest in the betterment to society, not only for his own benefit, but for the benefit of his fellow citizens.

These are my observations. Waitedg

[charlie02356]

I translated the document linked in St-Malo's post. It generally talked about the need to reduce GHG and the benefits of biomass in helping achieve that goal. At the very end is where the ability to read-between-the-lines comes in handy:

In closing, it must also be stressed that the leaders of forest Consultants RDG have acquired in 2012 the thermal central heating St-Malo (CSM), Quebec, to locate there a demonstration unit. CSM produces and distributes steam through its underground network the surrounding buildings of the industrial park, for the annual needs of heat of process or for the seasonal needs of heating of buildings. This unit, once converted to biomass, will reduce not only its own GHG emissions, but will become a technology showcase to promote the deployment of similar equipment elsewhere in Quebec, to substitute more of fossil fuels by biomass conditional. The project benefited from a financial support via one of the programs of the Bureau of efficiency and innovation energy of Quebec.

This initiative should be able to benefit from all the attention and all the financial support necessary to the part of the various levels of government and the financial institutions of Quebec, to ensure that the function of technological showcase effectively allows a wider dissemination of the solution in demonstration and a provincial deployment of the approach to biofuels secs for the reduction of GHG emissions, at the same time that the other financial benefits and socio-economic of this solution.

Charlie

[sambeaux]

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A PICTURE OF FASC..
boss standing in front of this brand new
KDS and handing the keys over to the buyer.
And a picture of the buyer handing FASC boss
a big fat check.
Posted here on this board and on FASC website.
Make that KDSs. Checks.
This would cost nothing and would be perfectly
legal.
Whatarethechances?

[Waitedg]

TR - And although your message is addressed to Net-Man, my answer is yes it is. And I hope your enthusiasm has room in it to contain my qualifiers. Waitedg

[Net-Man]

TRCPA - I thought St-Malo's post was great news too! All of the talk about the motor has me a bit perplexed. Considering no one has any details it strikes me as a lot of conjecture. Any way I look at it a sale was made and I can't find anything wrong with that!

fwiw,

Net-Man

[All City Baby]

Nice find, TR. Thank you. EOM

[Net-Man]

Waitedg - You would enjoy one of the systems that I built. It models large systems and uses heuristic logic to determine solutions to problems. I have used a small version of this in the past to model the KDS market place. In short, my world is also very large in many respects. The world the KDS and by extension FASC competes in has many components and its sales trajectory is based on the intersections of several fractal rays. The algorithms to produce a sales solution are, suffice to say, somewhat complex.

However, if we turn this around a bit and look at the pps and affect that sales, any sales, has the result it becomes very easy to predict. The demand for shares will grow with sales. Certain types of sales or news will add significant demand for the shares - and yes we have seen this in the past. Due in large part to how many current investors will not sell until a much higher price is achieved, it will also follow that until a much higher pps is achieved few shares will be available. Because of this, the pps will run up fast as more machine sales are made.

Let me provide my take on the overall situation. St-Malo provided a very accurate time frame for when his customer's machine would be delivered and that was almost spot on. He has now indicated his latest project will require 3 machines. There is strong evidence that a machine will be sold to Mexico. Total 5 machines so far. There is a rumble of a very large order that might come to fruition very soon. There are likely other sales that are in the works that we have not heard about to date.

With 1 machine sale the pps moved 40% and settled at 33% higher and it didn't take very many shares to do this. I wonder what 3 machines will do or perhaps 10-12? What if that is combined with ongoing sales? What happens when/if JCL Engineering reports they have commercialized the KDS for sewage sludge processing and seems to strong evidence this may happen shortly. What then?

No one is happy with the speed of the progress being made. However, progress it is. I know some will disagree with this and that is OK. All well thought out discussion is welcome. By the way, I have used the ignore button for the first time today in order to cut down on the illogical negativity.

fwiw,

Net-Man

[TRCPA]

Net-Man.....this is just very, very good news. I dont know really what more to say or add to it. Its a very good day for FASC !!!

[Waitedg]

My Quote Tracker - 4:45 PM --shows a bid of .0085 and an ask of .018. - ANY NEWBIES TO THIS BOARD: WARNING - DO NOT PLACE A MARKET ORDER !! Waitedg

[Waitedg]

Net-Man - "So, PR not withstanding, isn't this good news in your world?" Although addressed to Charlie, my answer is yes--qualified by the statement: I have come to learn that my world is much, much bigger than I had previously realized. And this much, much bigger world comprises the market. Waitedg

[Net-Man]

charlie - My understanding is the sale will lead to the ability to pay for the financials. All in - I am OK at the moment without a PR. As TRCPA noted though, the big news is one sale complete and 3 more coming. Perhaps the larger sale will generate the PR you and others would like.

So, PR not withstanding, isn't this good news in your world?

fwiw,

Net-Man

[Waitedg]

A Personal Opinion. Only a few here know the information provided on St. Malo's post. A mere 130,000 shares have traded today. Observations:

1. Those who are truly positively impressed by the new information, are not acting on it to any significant degree. The reason why I believe (rightly or wrongly) is that if you own say 3,000,000 frozen shares, how much better percentage wise will another 100K or so make you. When there are still the negatives facing us--non-reporting for an extended period, huge amount of dollars owed the former CEO's estate, as well as present management, mistakes made(and perhaps understandably so--by a skeleton crew)--such as wrong motor being shipped, etc., age of CEO, etc. ,etc..

2. And then we have all the positives posted by Net-man, TR, St. Malo--and others.

The reality is that this is a very interesting situation--and, in my opinion, neither the positives not the negatives are going to make that much difference until the management gets restored in it proper management functions and duties.

In the meantime, we old timers have an interesting ride. Let's ride well with each other. Waitedg