Replies to post #128240 on Intel Corp (INTC)

[Elmer Phud]

FPG

Currently, TSMC's 20nm product (that's been confirmed) is Xilinx FPGA samples

If this gives you comfort to claim that TSMC is "in production" at 20nm because Xilinx is offering samples to end users, even though those "production parts" may be unqualified from a reliability standpoint and full of bugs, then we will have to agree to disagree on what constitutes "production". That said, you should not compare Intel's statements of "production" with TSMC's statements of "production" because clearly they do not mean the same thing. To an inexperienced industry outsider such as yourself, the subtlety is lost.

[walbert]

Do I need to remind you that the topic was TSMC 20nm production status, and not what TSMC's customers are selling?

The issue that I am interested in is what is going to hit revenue in 2014. And so far I haven't seen any ARM shop that has any 20nm products on their roadmap for 2014.

If this is incorrect please post up a link to that roadmap.

[Andy Grave]

Currently, TSMC's 20nm product (that's been confirmed) is Xilinx FPGA samples.

from the CC......fourth Q 2013 20nm revenue was negligible but non zero.....the Xilinx samples.