Replies to post #29953 on XpresSpa Group Inc (XSPA)

[tobinator00]

Google already had a "dumbass" search engine generating revenues. When "smartass" started in 2004, Vringo argued that the immediate jump in revenues of 20% were attributed to the Lang patents. Charts show that since that time one could argue the new smartass Google search engine increased revenues up to 40%, but Vringo's legal team decided to keep it conservative.

Now fast forward 4 years later, I believe there is no way that Bing started using a dumbass search model to compete against the superior smartass Google system that uses the Lang patents. That is why I assumed 100% of Bing's results were exposed to the Lang patent technology.

Now there are the holes in my analysis. 1) I don't know what the % of Bing revenues are US based. Though I think Bing is used less overseas than Google due to the lack of wide spread brand recognition. 2) I used very conservative numbers for revenue. The last quarter of 2012 the online services division of Microsoft revenues was $893 million, which would be $3,600 million annualized for 2013. Lastly, 3) The revenues may or may not include the Yahoo search engine business that Microsoft receives.

The purpose of my analysis is to get a discussion going to apply math to estimate a probable amount for Vringo instead of a raw number of $200 million being bantered about with no basis.

[ive been had]

Disagree for these reasons, google already had search working and then they upgraded to the filter technology, called langs patents. Bing was never established as search and then when they entered the market they used langs patents from the start, so all of bings revs are in play, microsoft did reference the patents when they started and that is why willful infringement comes into play and why they are going to settle. They are guilty and they know it and will make it right. I say at least 350 million will be number, could be more but i think vringo will cut them slack since they are doing the right thing. I think running will be 10 percent going forward. Remember the difference google didnt use the patents at first and microsoft did from the begining.