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snow

01/24/13 1:32 PM

#211895 RE: Arthur Edward Whoof #211893

Dr GoldSmith

"The problem her is that RockTenn has a well established and long standing profitable recycling operation in place".

Do you think that the present CEO did not know that? Why did he give up his job at RKT if you were righ? Who has RKT landfills with years of waste plastic stored?

mikeo56

01/24/13 1:33 PM

#211896 RE: Arthur Edward Whoof #211893

Sounds like YOU need to call the company, let me help you here is the phone Numbers
Investor Relations Contacts
Investor Relations Manager
Chris Irons
Email: ir@jbi.net
Telephone: 716.471.5995

Processing Center
Christine Merrick or Rachel Michalek
20 Iroquois Street
Niagara Falls, NY 14303
Email: processingcenter@jbi.net
Telephone: 716.278.0015

Transfer Agent and Registrar
Pacific Stock Transfer Company
4045 South Spencer Street, Suite 403
Las Vegas, NV 89119
Telephone: 702.361.3033 / Fax: 702.433.1979

Independent Auditor
MSCM LLP
701 Evans Avenue 8th Floor
Toronto, Ontario M9C 1A3
Telephone: 416.626.6000 / Fax: 416.626.8650

Legal Counsel
Pryor Cashman LLC
7 Times Square
New York, NY 10036-6569

buenokite

01/24/13 1:40 PM

#211899 RE: Arthur Edward Whoof #211893

What I mean by that is that an overzealous tinkerer has painted a best case scenario full of false assumptions contrived from generalized impressions of fact. He then prematurely shouted it from the rooftops and developed a base of followers. He himself may have believed his original numbers but if/upon learning that the realistic picture is much different than his far reaching assumptions, it was too late to correct the public’s misguided perception.



I think your points around JBI dealing with logistics, ability to produce consistent fuel with varying inputs, etc. would in part explain the poor financial performance of the company.

And the other point on logistics I have mentioned is the amount of activity required to achieve this CFP would be of such volume that surely after whale financing and SEC settlement (both good news for the company) you would see a massive and sustained move with the stock price. Friends of friends of friends of those around this company, suppliers, buyers, etc. would be massively buying now. And who the hell would be selling?

Maybe, just maybe JBI is a typical pyrolysis company with a catalyst (not so magic) And they have not substantially conquered the fundamental challenges facing any pyrolysis company.

That sure seems more logical than "we could have made a fortune running the machines, but our Johnny wanted to make them just a little better" quarter after quarter.

Jahuel

01/24/13 1:49 PM

#211901 RE: Arthur Edward Whoof #211893

Big Oil either loves or doesn't care about JBII.

They might love them as a good PR story. JBII makes the continued use of gas & oil seem somewhat greener. They might see them as a decent buyout candidate, if the numbers work out right.

But why would they really care? If all the appropriate plastic in the world was getting recycled into oil, it still wouldn't be enough output to make a dent in their sales. I ran the numbers like 2 years ago, and it came out to 0.2% of the world's oil usage if P2O was fully realized.

Zardiw

01/24/13 2:41 PM

#211917 RE: Arthur Edward Whoof #211893

Pluto was discovered by observing the orbits of Neptune and Uranus......or on a more social level.....you can judge someone by the company they keep..........and applying that to JBII.....well......seems like a lot of very reputable companies have come to her corner.....companies that no doubt had a lot more info to base their decision on than any of us do......z

Zardiw

01/24/13 2:46 PM

#211919 RE: Arthur Edward Whoof #211893

And you could ask similar questions about any number of bleeding edge technologies in their infancy.

For instance Cars:

1. They sure make a lot of noise and scare horses...who in their right mind would want one?
2. Where is a consistent fuel supply?
3. They need roads. Who's going to build them?
..etc etc.......

z