I agree they don't "know", but don't you think the folks at idcc have a pretty good idea or guess where this is going much the same as does nok. If they don't have any idea, then both would have a pretty sorry negotiating team if negotiation were possibly in the works. Me thinks there is no negotiations right now as Janet has said, but maybe tomorrow or in a few days. Idcc has always been good at bad timing. This drop is expected by all as no one really seems to be in a panic. I still expect good results. Just the way idcc works ... ... ... nic