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packerfan9

03/13/11 12:19 PM

#7395 RE: overachiever #7394

Being objective I seen accusations here of fraud. Might be right might be wrong. Until someone here is charged by SEC/DOJ with fraud then no fraud. It like in sports we see a bad call and say clearly the player was safe. Well as long as law Umpire calls him out he is out even if replay shows safe. When we see someone charged with fraud then its fraud. Until then opinions can say whatever they want to we have free speech. Doesn't make them right or wrong just makes them opinions. Now when we see charges of fraud no longer opinions.

sanbrunobaby

03/13/11 12:32 PM

#7396 RE: overachiever #7394

No one is denying that there is not information that would tend to make one believe that there may have been a fraud committed though determining intent can be hard to prove of course. As far as knowledge that the information released by BTDG was incorrect you may be right BTDG knew that. You may also be wrong, as their filings do exhibit some rather ridiculous assertions in general. Thus, saying someone who believes that BTDG management is either clinically disturbed, or inexperienced or less than intelligent, (when their filings support any of these opinions) doesn't mean that such a view is "nonsense". Perhaps not probable, and you have certainly argued well your point of view. Your own definition of fraud states clearly there must be intent, and knowledge that assertions were incorrect. I do not think it is a stretch that BTDG management may be mentally deficient, or ignorant and inexperienced.

I am waiting for how they address the 1.5 million ounces of gold reserves before making a final opinion. I respect of course you have definite opinions and your arguements are certainly logical.