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gr8member

12/30/10 3:49 PM

#40675 RE: Sheepdog #40671

I would be happy with 8 even though you are right, the damages are 9.

Somewhere in the 8s would be a reasonable negotiating tool.

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bzone3

12/30/10 4:28 PM

#40681 RE: Sheepdog #40671

How much to charge TMOB for past, present and future licensing?

Consider this:

2009 Deutsche Telekom posted $64.6 billion in revenue($15.5 billion from US) of which $7.4 billion net profit($2.2 billion from US or 15%).

Revenue in Billions $$$$
2009 $64.6
2008 $61.7
2007 $62.5
2006 $61.3
2005 $59.6

They had 33.8 million US subscribers, 44.2 million Europe, Southern/Eastern Europe 34.6 million, Germany 39.1 million. All total 152 million mobile customers! The numbers are insane and they are the the small mobile provider versus AT&T and Verizon/Vodafone.

So what should they pay for the past, present and future licensing? They have made roughly $2 billion in profit just from the US from 2005-2009
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interden

12/30/10 11:56 PM

#40689 RE: Sheepdog #40671

Won't give up hope, but think all your expectations running high on settlement payout..

You all must look to past case's of infringement and what they generated for infringement cases.
One major one to look at would be (Interdigital Vs. Nokia). It would be a good evaluation on current case. Let me give you some idea of case. Infringement was a patent called TDMA and 29 others.

Tdma.. Time Division Multiple Access revolutionized the Cell Phone industry. Example it turned One cell phone line into 10 to 100 lines. A carrier now would only need one phone number for multiple cell phones on one line. It was extraordinary and changed the cell phone industry.This is why cell phones boomed. How did it do it? It slowed time fractions of a second for multiple conversations to take place. Later came CDMA which used a code before and after and made 1 line into 1000's. To make it short...
Fact is I believe final settlement was 230 some million with Nokia.

I do believe though that any # on settlement is a start. The rest will fall for other infringers. It will also help in the state case to prove to a jury if the case goes to trial. Diac was holding back company all along the way?
Any how check out case with Interdigital vs. Nokia it's a example of what you may see in settlement if any. Happy New Year All!!