the daemon: I'll try to keep this really simple for you. You owe me a $1000, but don't have the cash, so you give me $1000 worth of FASC stock, I sell the stock immediately to get my $1000. Keep that in mind. Now FASC owes Cal $1000 in back pay, Cal says give me $1000 of FASC stock instead via options which he sells immediately to get his $1000. Now don't worry about the options being restricted, he has old, unrestricted options that he will sell to get the $1000. It's about getting the $1000, not what price the options were when exercised.